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(Talking Points Memo)   Scott Brown: "Gee, Ms. Warren, I'd love to debate you tonight, but I really have to vote in the Senate." Harry Reid: "No more votes today in the Senate. Problem?"   (tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com) divider line 144
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2012-09-21 01:12:47 AM  

Markoff_Cheney: Sabyen91: Markoff_Cheney: Sabyen91: Markoff_Cheney: Guntram Shatterhand: Markoff_Cheney: Kevin72: Guntram Shatterhand:

At least 2 years. That is until the voters forget teabaggers are cocksucking obstructionist assholes and firebaggers stay home because the Dems aren't absolutely pristine.

itll be a fun sobering up if it happens. i still pretty much expect a level of infighting that will split the party after this blowout, as i have been hoping since the mccain palin disaster, but that hasnt happened yet.
but mainstreaming the crazy has had its impact on indies and it wont get better until they get their heads out of their asses with the tea party crazies.


Yeah, signs point to a schism between old-school Republicans and teabaggers but I am guessing the moderates go along with the idea that they weren't conservative enough. And the firebaggers will STILL piss me off more because they are so goddamned stupid.
 
2012-09-21 01:14:15 AM  

MyRandomName: Nice that Reid is working hard on that budget. So hard he can take extra half days. Life was so much easier when candidates like Obama could vote present to avoid the tough choices.


It was pretty awesome when the Republicans shot down the Veterans' Jobs Bill. There is no point in holding votes because one side isn't interested in good governance.

/Hint: It is your side.
 
2012-09-21 01:18:45 AM  
Scott Brown's desperation is embarrassing. He may win his election, but I have no respect for him.
 
2012-09-21 01:20:08 AM  

Guntram Shatterhand: Why would he put Paul Ryan as VP in the first place? Why would he back outrageous statements alienating half America's population? Why would he refuse to release his tax statements? There is no logic in Romney's head. At this point, he's doing what 'feels' right, and it's working as well as a number of other Republican policies that have destroyed this nation.

Romney is desperate as hell.


Maybe Romney wants to take Republicans down.

I'm a little buzzed and I was just thinking this - what if Mitt is actually a good guy? What if he got out of business 20 years ago because it made him sick to his stomach? He's already embedded in the GOP, and he can't flip and run as a Dem this year, but he sure as shat can take a lot of money from the derp and sabotage from within. Yeah, he always thought he could do good as a president, but since the right-wing has become so unhinged, he knows he can do far better by taking them out.

Think about it.

He's acting like a plutocrat fat cat that no one can relate too.

His staffer went on fox news to discredit an "over the top" pro Obama ad by saying "well, if they were in Massachusetts (getting the equivalent of Obamacare) they wouldn't have a problem!"

When video of him stating it would be easier if he was latino, he goes in black face in front of a latino audience.

All of a sudden, information is released that his campaign doesn't have money, as they're starting to really trail in the polls, and his staff gets a bonus!

And that's just what I can come up with off the top of my head.

He's probably scared shiatless that he's only trailing by 4% right now.

If this is true, he will get more unhinged, and he will intentionally release tax returns showing 0% taxes paid. And after he loses, he will instantly become sane again.
 
2012-09-21 01:20:09 AM  
Yerah, but it sounds like he showed up and tore that squaw a new wigwam.
 
2012-09-21 01:20:16 AM  

spamdog: tenpoundsofcheese: It isn't what happened so congrats on the trollific headline.

U mad bro? You seem pretty mad.


Nope. Just impressed that the left can be trolled so easily with a headline like this.
They take anything without even thinking about it.
funny.

8/10 for subby.
you got a lot of bites.
 
2012-09-21 01:21:46 AM  

hourheroyes: spamdog: tenpoundsofcheese: It isn't what happened so congrats on the trollific headline.

U mad bro? You seem pretty mad.

Homie's just tired.


A Fark headline misrepresenting reality? Oh my, however will he cope with the injustice?
 
2012-09-21 01:22:03 AM  

Guntram Shatterhand: The Democrats, via Obama, are learning that if they want a future they have to fight against every single thing the Republicans do.

And the Republicans, being pussies, can't deal with it.


They've gotten so used to the Democrats rolling over and taking it, all they can say when the Dems fight back is "Whaahh! You're not playing fair!!" because fair to them means they win without fighting.
 
2012-09-21 01:24:57 AM  

tenpoundsofcheese: Nope. Just impressed that the left can be trolled so easily with a headline like this.
They take anything without even thinking about it.
funny.


That doesn't even make sense.
 
2012-09-21 01:26:41 AM  

impaler: Maybe Romney wants to take Republicans down.

I'm a little buzzed and I was just thinking this - what if Mitt is actually a good guy?


If this were the case he should get the Oscar for best actor. It is HARD playing a narcissistic sociopath. There is a reason those guys get awards when they do it well.
 
2012-09-21 01:27:22 AM  

Brick-House: Yerah, but it sounds like he showed up and tore that squaw a new wigwam.


Stick to pictures. Confirming your racism doesn't help you.
 
2012-09-21 01:32:16 AM  

Sabyen91:

Fixed. I am not delusional enough to think the Dems have even a 1% chance of winning the House but I think the Senate is pretty much a done deal right now. That is incredible because the Dems started with such a structural disadvantage (having to defend so many seats).


It'd probably have to end up being a Democratic wave election, especially considering how Republicans were mostly in charge of redistricting, but I would say with the way the Presidential and Senate elections are going, there's a decent chance that they could take the house with a razor thin margin. Not a lot of people make predictions because the polling data is so sparse and the races are so many.

Intrade has it at 20%. Given recent party performance on other races, I'd say that's pretty accurate.
 
2012-09-21 01:34:52 AM  
That was hilarious. I only watched the last 20 minutes of the debate. I didn't know that Scott Brown had been trying to get out of the debate appearance. When I saw the footage of Harry Reid suspending voting in order for Scott Brown to make the debate, I realized how big of a troll Harry Reid has become. It was farking brilliant. I don't know if Scott was prepared for what Elizabeth Warren brought to the table. Looking forward to the polls next week for this race.
 
2012-09-21 01:35:48 AM  

CmndrFish: Sabyen91:

Fixed. I am not delusional enough to think the Dems have even a 1% chance of winning the House but I think the Senate is pretty much a done deal right now. That is incredible because the Dems started with such a structural disadvantage (having to defend so many seats).

It'd probably have to end up being a Democratic wave election, especially considering how Republicans were mostly in charge of redistricting, but I would say with the way the Presidential and Senate elections are going, there's a decent chance that they could take the house with a razor thin margin. Not a lot of people make predictions because the polling data is so sparse and the races are so many.

Intrade has it at 20%. Given recent party performance on other races, I'd say that's pretty accurate.


Intrade has it as 20%? That is much higher than I would expect. The hole is deep.
 
2012-09-21 01:40:01 AM  

brianbankerus: What I caught of the debate (the end) was pathetic. Each had talking points they just kept repeating and repeating. I could be wrong, but I don't think there was a winner.

Warren seemed too defensive and Brown seemed too dickish.

I hope I'm wrong.


I dont know whats worse.

That Reid may have cancelled votes to let that debate happen despite not having passed a Budget in several years.

or

That democrats are in this thread actually fawning over Reid. The man is pathetic. Seriously your congressional leaders are a guy who claims a little bird told him Romney didnt pay any taxes and a botoxed zombie who told us we would have to pass the ACA to find out what was in it.

Good luck with that.
 
2012-09-21 01:42:09 AM  

archichris: brianbankerus: What I caught of the debate (the end) was pathetic. Each had talking points they just kept repeating and repeating. I could be wrong, but I don't think there was a winner.

Warren seemed too defensive and Brown seemed too dickish.

I hope I'm wrong.

I dont know whats worse.

That Reid may have cancelled votes to let that debate happen despite not having passed a Budget in several years.

or

That democrats are in this thread actually fawning over Reid. The man is pathetic. Seriously your congressional leaders are a guy who claims a little bird told him Romney didnt pay any taxes and a botoxed zombie who told us we would have to pass the ACA to find out what was in it.

Good luck with that.


I think it is that retarded Republicans are still going to vote for a liberal from Massachusetts. Trolling at its best.
 
2012-09-21 01:42:31 AM  
Reid is a douche bag of the highest order. Right up there is pelosi and Hillary.

The only higher in the scale are.....well......um....that.... Oh yeah... Or president.

/1200 more jobs lost due to Obama EPA regs. (09/19/2012)

Good news though! I can cancel my insurance and SAVE $1500 a year through Obamacare (Paying the Fine Tax)
 
2012-09-21 01:44:08 AM  

invisbob: Reid is a douche bag of the highest order. Right up there is pelosi and Hillary.

The only higher in the scale are.....well......um....that.... Oh yeah... Or president.

/1200 more jobs lost due to Obama EPA regs. (09/19/2012)

Good news though! I can cancel my insurance and SAVE $1500 a year through Obamacare (Paying the Fine Tax)


Why don't you just take responsibility for yourself and get your own health insurance, you deadbeat?
 
2012-09-21 01:44:50 AM  

invisbob: /1200 more jobs lost due to Obama EPA regs. (09/19/2012)


You know, putting a date on it doesn't actually mean you cited it.
 
2012-09-21 01:45:32 AM  

tenpoundsofcheese: spamdog: tenpoundsofcheese: It isn't what happened so congrats on the trollific headline.

U mad bro? You seem pretty mad.

Nope. Just impressed that the left can be trolled so easily with a headline like this.
They take anything without even thinking about it.
funny.

8/10 for subby.
you got a lot of bites.


Oh. Both sides are trolls. So vote for Romney.
 
2012-09-21 01:49:35 AM  
i45.tinypic.com
 
2012-09-21 01:51:50 AM  

invisbob: Reid is a douche bag of the highest order. Right up there is pelosi and Hillary.

The only higher in the scale are.....well......um....that.... Oh yeah... Or president.

/1200 more jobs lost due to Obama EPA regs. (09/19/2012)

Good news though! I can cancel my insurance and SAVE $1500 a year through Obamacare (Paying the Fine Tax)


You must be one o them fellas what won't take responsibility for their lives. Freeloading insurance on the public doal. Goddamn 47%er.
 
2012-09-21 01:52:38 AM  
Brown is scared of a woman.
 
2012-09-21 01:53:48 AM  
 
2012-09-21 01:58:22 AM  

archichris: That democrats are in this thread actually fawning over Reid. The man is pathetic. Seriously your congressional leaders are a guy who claims a little bird told him Romney didnt pay any taxes and a botoxed zombie who told us we would have to pass the ACA to find out what was in it.

Good luck with that.


Go have yourself a good cry with Boehner and remind me how macho your team is.
 
2012-09-21 02:02:25 AM  
Keep derping, derptards. I'll only see you once.
 
2012-09-21 02:02:37 AM  
Brown doesn't want to debate her because even if he wipes the floor with her, the liberal media will claim he lost.

/derp
 
2012-09-21 02:03:29 AM  

Brick-House: squaw


You're scum.
 
2012-09-21 02:03:37 AM  

Brick-House: Yerah, but it sounds like he showed up and tore that squaw a new wigwam.


Wherein we learn why you typically stick with posting editorial cartoons.
 
2012-09-21 02:03:57 AM  
Heckuva job Brownie, heckuva job....
 
2012-09-21 02:08:07 AM  

Kevin72: Guntram Shatterhand: The Democrats, via Obama, are learning that if they want a future they have to fight against every single thing the Republicans do.

And the Republicans, being pussies, can't deal with it.

And wait till you see how Obama trolls Romney in the debates. He will smile sweetly as he twistst the dagger.


If Obama says ANYTHING about Romney's father, it will cross Romney's circuits. How George Romney saved tons of jobs by consolidating some failing companies into American Motors. Hint: Bain. Or his father coming out in favor of ending the war in Vietnam by 1968. hInt: Oh? Li'l Romney demonstrated for the war but not for him going? And of course Obama can praise Romneycare and remind voters that Soylent Green Is people Obamacare is made from Romneycare.
 
2012-09-21 02:08:17 AM  

Sabyen91: invisbob: /1200 more jobs lost due to Obama EPA regs. (09/19/2012)

You know, putting a date on it doesn't actually mean you cited it.


He's a social con, and therefore allowed to lie for the lord. Oddly enough, that's the same tribe that screams loudest about Taqiyya.
 
2012-09-21 02:09:37 AM  

Bucky Katt: Brown is scared of a woman.


All Republicans are scared of women.
 
2012-09-21 02:16:24 AM  

tenpoundsofcheese: Nope. Just impressed that the left can be trolled so easily with a headline like this.
They take anything without even thinking about it.
funny.

8/10 for subby.
you got a lot of bites.


Oh yeah bro. Massive sphincter pain.
 
2012-09-21 02:16:37 AM  

BSABSVR: Sabyen91: invisbob: /1200 more jobs lost due to Obama EPA regs. (09/19/2012)

You know, putting a date on it doesn't actually mean you cited it.

He's a social con, and therefore allowed to lie for the lord. Oddly enough, that's the same tribe that screams loudest about Taqiyya.


I am not familiar with him but it looked like a one and done troll.
 
2012-09-21 02:38:55 AM  

whidbey: Brown doesn't want to debate her because even if he wipes the floor with her, the liberal media will claim he lost.

/derp


she handed him his ass, and the other media claimed brown came out polished.
 
2012-09-21 02:42:50 AM  

Markoff_Cheney: whidbey: Brown doesn't want to debate her because even if he wipes the floor with her, the liberal media will claim he lost.

/derp

she handed him his ass, and the other media claimed brown came out polished.


That will happen. The media fawned over Bush after he didn't totally embarrass himself.
 
2012-09-21 02:44:54 AM  

Sabyen91: BSABSVR: Sabyen91: invisbob: /1200 more jobs lost due to Obama EPA regs. (09/19/2012)

You know, putting a date on it doesn't actually mean you cited it.

He's a social con, and therefore allowed to lie for the lord. Oddly enough, that's the same tribe that screams loudest about Taqiyya.

I am not familiar with him but it looked like a one and done troll.


I clicked on the account, probably because I was about to confuse him with Bob16's stupid ass. I was amazed that there was actually content in the account. At least he's a legit account as opposed to TPoC
 
2012-09-21 02:45:22 AM  

Sabyen91: Markoff_Cheney: whidbey: Brown doesn't want to debate her because even if he wipes the floor with her, the liberal media will claim he lost.

/derp

she handed him his ass, and the other media claimed brown came out polished.

That will happen. The media fawned over Bush after he didn't totally embarrass himself.


And Palin......don't forget Palin.
 
2012-09-21 02:47:27 AM  

thenewmissus: Sabyen91: Markoff_Cheney: whidbey: Brown doesn't want to debate her because even if he wipes the floor with her, the liberal media will claim he lost.

/derp

she handed him his ass, and the other media claimed brown came out polished.

That will happen. The media fawned over Bush after he didn't totally embarrass himself.

And Palin......don't forget Palin.


She winked! It was awesome!
 
2012-09-21 02:52:37 AM  

Sabyen91: Markoff_Cheney: whidbey: Brown doesn't want to debate her because even if he wipes the floor with her, the liberal media will claim he lost.

/derp

she handed him his ass, and the other media claimed brown came out polished.

That will happen. The media fawned over Bush after he didn't totally embarrass himself.


When the standards are "Speak Like Someone Campaigning for Senator of the United States" and "Mention Jesus A Lot to Keep the Windowlickers Happy", both sides can be presented as doing well.
 
2012-09-21 02:53:58 AM  

Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: Sabyen91: Markoff_Cheney: whidbey: Brown doesn't want to debate her because even if he wipes the floor with her, the liberal media will claim he lost.

/derp

she handed him his ass, and the other media claimed brown came out polished.

That will happen. The media fawned over Bush after he didn't totally embarrass himself.

When the standards are "Speak Like Someone Campaigning for Senator of the United States" and "Mention Jesus A Lot to Keep the Windowlickers Happy", both sides can be presented as doing well.


Yup. Bush had such a low bar (set by the media) that when he hopped over it he was farking brilliant to them. Romney will get a similar bar.
 
2012-09-21 02:57:46 AM  

Sabyen91: Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: Sabyen91: Markoff_Cheney: whidbey: Brown doesn't want to debate her because even if he wipes the floor with her, the liberal media will claim he lost.

/derp

she handed him his ass, and the other media claimed brown came out polished.

That will happen. The media fawned over Bush after he didn't totally embarrass himself.

When the standards are "Speak Like Someone Campaigning for Senator of the United States" and "Mention Jesus A Lot to Keep the Windowlickers Happy", both sides can be presented as doing well.

Yup. Bush had such a low bar (set by the media) that when he hopped over it he was farking brilliant to them. Romney will get a similar bar.


if he shows up with his farking pants on he will have won according to a news channel i dont frequent.
 
2012-09-21 03:38:28 AM  

Sabyen91: Yup. Bush had such a low bar (set by the media that when he hopped over it he was farking brilliant to them. Romney will get a similar bar.


I'm not certain that is true this time. Romney has a history of being a decent speaker, of being an intelligent person, most of his 'foibles' have been from his need to connect to people that hate him (the right wing).

So there is an expectation that he can actually argue his points. It's a question of what points he will argue (his or the ones he has adopted of late) and whether or not he can control himself in a situation like that. He's not an idiot, oddly enough. And I think the expectations are there this time.
 
2012-09-21 03:43:17 AM  

impaler: Guntram Shatterhand: Why would he put Paul Ryan as VP in the first place? Why would he back outrageous statements alienating half America's population? Why would he refuse to release his tax statements? There is no logic in Romney's head. At this point, he's doing what 'feels' right, and it's working as well as a number of other Republican policies that have destroyed this nation.

Romney is desperate as hell.

Maybe Romney wants to take Republicans down.

I'm a little buzzed and I was just thinking this - what if Mitt is actually a good guy? What if he got out of business 20 years ago because it made him sick to his stomach? He's already embedded in the GOP, and he can't flip and run as a Dem this year, but he sure as shat can take a lot of money from the derp and sabotage from within. Yeah, he always thought he could do good as a president, but since the right-wing has become so unhinged, he knows he can do far better by taking them out.

Think about it.

He's acting like a plutocrat fat cat that no one can relate too.

His staffer went on fox news to discredit an "over the top" pro Obama ad by saying "well, if they were in Massachusetts (getting the equivalent of Obamacare) they wouldn't have a problem!"

When video of him stating it would be easier if he was latino, he goes in black face in front of a latino audience.

All of a sudden, information is released that his campaign doesn't have money, as they're starting to really trail in the polls, and his staff gets a bonus!

And that's just what I can come up with off the top of my head.

He's probably scared shiatless that he's only trailing by 4% right now.

If this is true, he will get more unhinged, and he will intentionally release tax returns showing 0% taxes paid. And after he loses, he will instantly become sane again.


If this was a TV show on AMC I would watch it every week.

Hell I'd even watch it if it was on the CW.

/But not Fox
//Some sins can't be forgiven (Firefly, Sliders, Futurama, Sarah Connor, the list goes on and on and on....)
 
2012-09-21 04:50:15 AM  
I heard about this a little while ago, plus a few 'debate' highlights. Both were pretty strange.

Seems most of the Republican Senate candidates are running away from Romney as fast as they can, but their numbers are dropping anyway.
 
2012-09-21 04:55:43 AM  

Markoff_Cheney: Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: Eh, so what happened? Did Brown show up for the debate, or what?

well, that depends on your definition of 'showing up'
physically though, he was there.


He was going to bring his brain, but he ran out of time.
 
2012-09-21 05:47:06 AM  
Didn't see the debate, but read a lot of the Fark debate thread. Sounds like Warren killed him. I'm sure she could kill him again in the next debate, but I would find it hilarious if Reid somehow managed to keep Brown from showing up.
 
2012-09-21 06:23:36 AM  
Brown looked and sounded unprepared... He talked too fast, got flustered, stumbled over his own words and failed to defend his voting record or show that he is a "moderate independent".

Warren was poised, spoke clearly and calmly and kept to her message that we should judge Brown by his voting record, not by his campaign rhetoric.

Starting to look like Brown was thinking he wasn't going to have to debate last night and didn't prepare especially well. That's telling in and of itself.

He also looked like a petty douche bag going after the native-american crap right out of the gate... No one in the Commonwealth really cares about that nonsense. Not sure why he thought that would be a good approach.

She hammered him on his voting record and effectively reminded the people of Massachusetts the type of politicians the GOP will be putting in leadership spots if they gain control of the Senate.

I don't see how this is anything but a win for Warren. Brown was obviously ill prepared and it showed.
 
2012-09-21 06:27:52 AM  

archichris: brianbankerus: What I caught of the debate (the end) was pathetic. Each had talking points they just kept repeating and repeating. I could be wrong, but I don't think there was a winner.

Warren seemed too defensive and Brown seemed too dickish.

I hope I'm wrong.

I dont know whats worse.

That Reid may have cancelled votes to let that debate happen despite not having passed a Budget in several years.

or

That democrats are in this thread actually fawning over Reid. The man is pathetic. Seriously your congressional leaders are a guy who claims a little bird told him Romney didnt pay any taxes and a botoxed zombie who told us we would have to pass the ACA to find out what was in it.

Good luck with that.


It's like an internet game of soggy biscuit.

I can only imagine if a Republican had pulled a stunt like this (shutting down the senate) just to try and score a political point.
 
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