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2012-09-20 11:38:06 PM
Organized religion is the problem
 
2012-09-20 11:39:41 PM
Max - shut up
 
2012-09-20 11:46:04 PM

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: Alphakronik: I have yet to see religion actually help someone

Religion in the pre-Constantine Roman Empire was largely an elitist pursuit. The Romans would conquer a land, incorporate the local gods into their pantheon, and go about their business. Those with high status would make their sacrifices to the gods of their choosing, knowing that even if those prayers were unanswered, they'd be inured against any fallout (since they were of high status).

Christianity was born out of a permanent underclass in Roman territories, whose lives were so different from the elite that they had no other option but to believe that their reward awaited them in the afterlife. They were different from the Romans, and that's what made them special - they would have eternal life. No matter how terrible their lives were, and they could get pretty terrible, they took solace in their belief that they would live forever in heaven because they believed in the one, true God.

I'm as atheist as they come, but I'm not going to argue that those original Christians weren't helped by their religion. It was the only thing keeping them from laying down and dying.


Much as the Cathars believed, those in that time used their faith to pull through much turmoil. It wasn't a higher being that brought them through that, but a inward belief in themselves that they deemed a higher power or "god".

/baptized Catholic
//practicing agnostic
 
2012-09-20 11:49:38 PM
FTFA: Associated Press

TULSA, Okla. (AP) - A 17,000-member megachurch deep in Oklahoma's Bible Belt has been rattled by allegations that five employees waited two weeks to report the rape of a 13-year-old girl in a campus stairwell, allegedly by a church worker.

Tulsa police say the girl is among at least three victims of alleged sex crimes by two former employees of Victory Christian Center who face criminal charges. A child crimes investigator says more victims could surface as police continue to investigate.

Authorities, however, fear some parishioners in the large, tight-knit south Tulsa congregation may choose to pray about the allegations rather than provide concrete evidence.


Okay, first of all, it sounds like the church members are "rattled" by the fact that the allegations were made at all. Allowing this kind of thing to go public might put a serious dent in the collections, and God only knows how much it will screw up the ice cream social schedule...

And secondly... if a church has 17,000 members, wouldn't that make it a kilochurch...?
 
2012-09-21 12:02:13 AM

Fark Me To Tears:
And secondly... if a church has 17,000 members, wouldn't that make it a kilochurch...?


Excellent.
 
2012-09-21 12:02:43 AM
Easy fix, inform the congregation that any members who are found to have had knowledge of things but don't come forward will be arrested for whatever statute Oklahoma has on their books for impeding an investigation.
 
2012-09-21 12:08:53 AM
Family values people!

Deuteronomy
22:28 If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found;
22:29 Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days.

Now, if she wasn't a virgin, the guy's home free. Maybe they spent the week trying to determine if she was?

There is your Biblical definition of marriage by the way.
 
2012-09-21 12:11:30 AM

God-is-a-Taco: FitzShivering: umad: duffblue:
I always wonder what happens to the Fark Atheists when there isn't a daily thread about the pope or Joe paterno.

We go to secret meetings and discuss how to best oppress you next.

You missed our last meeting. You're going to be at least a week behind on knowing what form of oppression we're delivering next. I think we've kicked you off the "War on Christmas" committee, btw. We're still unsure if you're going to be in the "War on Christian marriage" committee, but I think you're probably safe on that one, for the moment.

The Gay Agenda subcommittee's recent acquisition of Chik-Fil-A (converted into an arm of the war on religion) has raised concerns that expanding the War on Christian Marriage committee is unnecessary.  JC Penney's soldiers are already training Chik-Fil-A's workers in homosexuality as we speak.


Honestly, I'm fine with ditching the War on Christian Marriage. I think the Living in Sin initiative is doing a bang up job of spreading the word that premarital sex is cool, so we are still hitting them on that front. We need to actually spend some resources to improve this year's bisexual orgy extravaganza. We put it off until the last minute last year and it ended up being pretty lame. They didn't even have a glory hole! Anyway, it is a big recruiting tool, so we need to do it right.
 
2012-09-21 12:13:32 AM
I'm so sick of hearing about these issues one after the other, like a freakishly terrifying chain mail that people can't stop forwarding. But it's not religion's fault, oh no! The fact that the sun god of the desert demands we suppress our humanity has nothing to do with it's follower's violent sexual explosions.
 
2012-09-21 12:14:35 AM
Fark these people with a farking rusty chainsaw.

I don't care who your invisible fiend is ... when I child is assaulted you report it to the police immediately and you co-operate fully.

There are no other options. No psychic begging to your imaginary friends ... no internal attempts to redeem or rehabilitate. You do not have the authority in the real world.

Stop trying to protect church profits ... protect the children!!!

/anyone who hesitated for a second should be beaten within an inch of their lives (+/- 2 inches)
 
2012-09-21 12:14:43 AM

DubyaHater: Why must we continually persecute Christians in this country?


because they keep raping children
 
2012-09-21 12:18:18 AM

Tainted1: DubyaHater: Why must we continually persecute Christians in this country?

because they keep raping children


mgoblog.com 

That's a Bingo!!!
 
2012-09-21 12:37:33 AM

FitzShivering: umad: duffblue: WhoopAssWayne: When faced with a difficult situation, my first instinct is to look toward the twenty year old "Freeloading 47" fark atheists for advice. Zero personal or world experience, zero contribution to society, yet willing to share their predictable "teenage atheism" to whoever is unfortunate enough to be within earshot. Zero contribution, zero societal value.

//No Tax, No Vote!

I always wonder what happens to the Fark Atheists when there isn't a daily thread about the pope or Joe paterno.

We go to secret meetings and discuss how to best oppress you next.

You missed our last meeting. You're going to be at least a week behind on knowing what form of oppression we're delivering next. I think we've kicked you off the "War on Christmas" committee, btw. We're still unsure if you're going to be in the "War on Christian marriage" committee, but I think you're probably safe on that one, for the moment.


Damn you Obama!
 
2012-09-21 01:03:11 AM

WhoopAssWayne: //No Tax, No Vote!


well if you would like to skip past the predicted decline and collapse of capitalism and jump straight to the communist revolution part, go right ahead.
 
2012-09-21 01:03:14 AM

Ikahoshi: Nice to know sex crime cover-ups aren't solely the domain of the Catholics.


Or college sports.
 
2012-09-21 01:18:39 AM

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: profplump: While I agree these people are jerks, you don't want to live in a society where "failure to give evidence for the state" is a crime.

Why is that? They've crossed the threshold of jerks and entered into Penn State territory.


"I was molested by my pastor and Bashar & Asma's Infinite Playlist knew ALL ABOUT IT AND DIDN'T TELL!"
[bang!] That'll be 15 years for failure to report!
"But your honor, I DIDN'T know about it!"
Whatever, tell it to your appellate attorney.

Basically, the burden will be on you at that point to prove you didn't know something--and proving a negative is nearly impossible in this context.
 
2012-09-21 01:20:11 AM
Tulsa megachurch pastors wait two weeks to announce that a 13-year old member was filled with the Holy Spirit

Member or "member"?
 
2012-09-21 01:47:20 AM
FTA Once the complaint reached HR, "that department did not follow its own reporting policy," the ministry admitted in the statement.

Holy sh*t, two of the most horrible things ever created by humanity combined into one -- Christianity and Human Resources. It's like the Reese's peanut butter cup of unfiltered evil.
 
2012-09-21 01:55:57 AM

jmr61: "Authorities, however, fear some parishioners in the large, tight-knit south Tulsa congregation may choose to pray about the allegations rather than provide concrete evidence."

I hope the cops can find these people and prosecute them.

There's nothing less valuable than a fanatical religious person.


Forget it Jake, it's Tulsa
 
2012-09-21 02:07:52 AM

Ed Grubermann: soosh: Victory Christian are some crazy motherf*ckers.

Churches like that were just one more thing that made me want to leave Oklahoma.

From one redneck jerkwater hellhole to another. Good job!



"You mean you changed it TO 'Latrine'?"
"Yeah. It used to be 'Shiathouse.'"

/no dog in the fight, just connotated the exchange.
 
2012-09-21 02:18:49 AM

BraveNewCheneyWorld: Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: profplump: While I agree these people are jerks, you don't want to live in a society where "failure to give evidence for the state" is a crime.

Why is that? They've crossed the threshold of jerks and entered into Penn State territory.

If only farkers would have come out in droves like this and spoken about the horrors of organized sports on day one of the Penn State scandal..


Organized sports have morals, religions don't.
 
2012-09-21 02:59:45 AM
Isn't this all just part of god's plan?
 
2012-09-21 03:10:40 AM

LemSkroob: jmr61: "Authorities, however, fear some parishioners in the large, tight-knit south Tulsa congregation may choose to pray about the allegations rather than provide concrete evidence."

I hope the cops can find these people and prosecute them.

There's nothing less valuable than a fanatical religious person.

likely the cops are part of the congregation. Thats how things work in the middle of nowhere. Everybody is somebodies uncle/cousin/brother, and often you aren't likely to go after your own.


It's the Tulsa PD. It's very unlikely any of the officers are part of the congregation, as that would interfere with their gang memberships, drug/arms dealing or Vic Mackey cosplay.
 
2012-09-21 03:11:25 AM

Gyrfalcon: Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: profplump: While I agree these people are jerks, you don't want to live in a society where "failure to give evidence for the state" is a crime.

Why is that? They've crossed the threshold of jerks and entered into Penn State territory.

"I was molested by my pastor and Bashar & Asma's Infinite Playlist knew ALL ABOUT IT AND DIDN'T TELL!"
[bang!] That'll be 15 years for failure to report!
"But your honor, I DIDN'T know about it!"
Whatever, tell it to your appellate attorney.

Basically, the burden will be on you at that point to prove you didn't know something--and proving a negative is nearly impossible in this context.


I'd hope your attorney would do a nice job at cross examination to determine how she knew you knew. Her testimony might not even be allowed. Unless her claim is that you were in the room when it happened, or overheard the pastor telling you directly to you, then it's just hearsay. And isn't it the job of the prosecutor to prove his claim? He has to prove you knew. You don't have to prove you didn't know.
 
2012-09-21 03:34:55 AM

stonicus: Gyrfalcon: Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: profplump: While I agree these people are jerks, you don't want to live in a society where "failure to give evidence for the state" is a crime.

Why is that? They've crossed the threshold of jerks and entered into Penn State territory.

"I was molested by my pastor and Bashar & Asma's Infinite Playlist knew ALL ABOUT IT AND DIDN'T TELL!"
[bang!] That'll be 15 years for failure to report!
"But your honor, I DIDN'T know about it!"
Whatever, tell it to your appellate attorney.

Basically, the burden will be on you at that point to prove you didn't know something--and proving a negative is nearly impossible in this context.

I'd hope your attorney would do a nice job at cross examination to determine how she knew you knew. Her testimony might not even be allowed. Unless her claim is that you were in the room when it happened, or overheard the pastor telling you directly to you, then it's just hearsay. And isn't it the job of the prosecutor to prove his claim? He has to prove you knew. You don't have to prove you didn't know.


Depends on the scenario. Based on everyone's shrieking during the Sandusky brouhaha, knowing or being in a position to know seems to be tantamount to knowing and not telling. Therefore, the prosecutor bringing the case would merely need to show that you "knew or reasonably should have known" based on your proximity to the event, your actions post-event, etc. You have to prove nothing, true; but the prosecutor needs only to show you should have known and that you failed to report. If your defense is "Well, I didn't," and you think that's enough, better fire your attorney, because it isn't. Remember, when you're talking child molestation, the presumption is that everyone involved is guilty as homemade sin regardless of any "proof" to the contrary.

After all, that was the general consensus around here about Paterno, that he knew and failed to report adequately, right? Ergo, if "failure to report" becomes a crime, then merely proving an individual "should have known" and didn't do anything would be sufficient; which is why nobody with a knowledge of the legal system (which is different than a knowledge of the law) wants to open that can o' worms.
 
2012-09-21 04:00:18 AM

basemetal: [www.strangmail.com image 850x1115]


Victory over death?

Did her late husband get better? 

More like victory by redefining basic English...
 
2012-09-21 04:08:51 AM

Gyrfalcon: stonicus: Gyrfalcon: Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: profplump: While I agree these people are jerks, you don't want to live in a society where "failure to give evidence for the state" is a crime.

Why is that? They've crossed the threshold of jerks and entered into Penn State territory.

"I was molested by my pastor and Bashar & Asma's Infinite Playlist knew ALL ABOUT IT AND DIDN'T TELL!"
[bang!] That'll be 15 years for failure to report!
"But your honor, I DIDN'T know about it!"
Whatever, tell it to your appellate attorney.

Basically, the burden will be on you at that point to prove you didn't know something--and proving a negative is nearly impossible in this context.

I'd hope your attorney would do a nice job at cross examination to determine how she knew you knew. Her testimony might not even be allowed. Unless her claim is that you were in the room when it happened, or overheard the pastor telling you directly to you, then it's just hearsay. And isn't it the job of the prosecutor to prove his claim? He has to prove you knew. You don't have to prove you didn't know.

Depends on the scenario. Based on everyone's shrieking during the Sandusky brouhaha, knowing or being in a position to know seems to be tantamount to knowing and not telling. Therefore, the prosecutor bringing the case would merely need to show that you "knew or reasonably should have known" based on your proximity to the event, your actions post-event, etc. You have to prove nothing, true; but the prosecutor needs only to show you should have known and that you failed to report. If your defense is "Well, I didn't," and you think that's enough, better fire your attorney, because it isn't. Remember, when you're talking child molestation, the presumption is that everyone involved is guilty as homemade sin regardless of any "proof" to the contrary.

After all, that was the general consensus around here about Paterno, that he knew and failed to report adequately, right? Ergo, if "failure t ...


Paterno had more than just one person saying he knew though. And it still wasn't just a *bang of gavel* "Guilty!" for Sandusky. I'm just hoping they need more than one traumatized girl saying "he knew about it!"

/Also, hope they get the people who actually did it, not just the ones who knew...
If just the girls "he knew!", that's not much. If she says it, and her mom says it, and 7 other community members say it, then
 
2012-09-21 04:35:18 AM

duffblue: FitzShivering: umad: duffblue: WhoopAssWayne: When faced with a difficult situation, my first instinct is to look toward the twenty year old "Freeloading 47" fark atheists for advice. Zero personal or world experience, zero contribution to society, yet willing to share their predictable "teenage atheism" to whoever is unfortunate enough to be within earshot. Zero contribution, zero societal value.

//No Tax, No Vote!

I always wonder what happens to the Fark Atheists when there isn't a daily thread about the pope or Joe paterno.

We go to secret meetings and discuss how to best oppress you next.

You missed our last meeting. You're going to be at least a week behind on knowing what form of oppression we're delivering next. I think we've kicked you off the "War on Christmas" committee, btw. We're still unsure if you're going to be in the "War on Christian marriage" committee, but I think you're probably safe on that one, for the moment.

Damn you Obama!


Axelrod warned me if I kept posting here someone would figure me out. You're still voting for me, right?
 
2012-09-21 06:50:24 AM

profplump: jmr61: I hope the cops can find these people and prosecute them.

While I agree these people are jerks, you don't want to live in a society where "failure to give evidence for the state" is a crime.


When you work around kids it is.

if this girl says she talked to X, and X didn't report it to the police or clams up throw the farking book at them.
 
2012-09-21 11:21:57 AM

DancingElkCondor: Just think...if this was a Muslim mosque....they would have stoned the girl to death. And the Derp Liberals would be yelling "Islam is a Religion of Peace"

This church needs to be disbanded....however this incident is not indicative of all of Christianity.


Go to one thread, someone pisses on my religion while aiming for Christians. Go to the next, someone pisses on their own faith while aiming at Muslims. I'm starting to see why women biatch about men needing to pee with the seat down.

/You do realize that Islam and Christianity are brother faiths, right? When you insult one Abrahamic faith, you insult all three.
 
2012-09-21 12:13:24 PM

Ed Grubermann: soosh: Victory Christian are some crazy motherf*ckers.

Churches like that were just one more thing that made me want to leave Oklahoma.

From one redneck jerkwater hellhole to another. Good job!


Alaska is a liberal utopia compared to Oklahoma.
 
2012-09-21 12:29:54 PM

umad: duffblue: WhoopAssWayne: When faced with a difficult situation, my first instinct is to look toward the twenty year old "Freeloading 47" fark atheists for advice. Zero personal or world experience, zero contribution to society, yet willing to share their predictable "teenage atheism" to whoever is unfortunate enough to be within earshot. Zero contribution, zero societal value.

//No Tax, No Vote!

I always wonder what happens to the Fark Atheists when there isn't a daily thread about the pope or Joe paterno.

We go to secret meetings and discuss how to best oppress you next.


Damn it, umad! You are supposed to keep that a secret! Now how are we supposed to soil their minds with the scientific method?
 
2012-09-21 12:30:59 PM

PsiChick: DancingElkCondor:
/You do realize that Islam and Christianity are brother faiths, right? When you insult one Abrahamic faith, you insult all three.


How would denying the divinity of Christ insult Judaism or Islam?
 
2012-09-21 02:48:46 PM

wellreadneck: PsiChick: DancingElkCondor:
/You do realize that Islam and Christianity are brother faiths, right? When you insult one Abrahamic faith, you insult all three.

How would denying the divinity of Christ insult Judaism or Islam?


...That's not even an insult to Christians, it's just saying 'I don't believe the same things as you'. If you're swearing or something, well, yeah, but quite frankly that's hardly a religion-based insult, that's just you being an ass.
 
2012-09-21 03:18:34 PM
PsiChick
That's not even an insult to Christians, it's just saying 'I don't believe the same things as you'.

...you don't know many Christians, do you.

OK, snark off.

Living in Canada, I'd have to say that pretty much every Christian i know would fall under that description. I bet I know a lot more than I think I do, since we don't proclaim our faiths from the streetcorners up here like you do in the States (OK, except for the Reformer New Tories).

/hypocritically, I'm on record all over the Net as being an obnoxious atheist
 
2012-09-21 03:33:54 PM

Bondith: PsiChick
That's not even an insult to Christians, it's just saying 'I don't believe the same things as you'.

...you don't know many Christians, do you.

OK, snark off.

Living in Canada, I'd have to say that pretty much every Christian i know would fall under that description. I bet I know a lot more than I think I do, since we don't proclaim our faiths from the streetcorners up here like you do in the States (OK, except for the Reformer New Tories).

/hypocritically, I'm on record all over the Net as being an obnoxious atheist


I know most obnoxious!Christians would take that as an insult, but there's a pretty big difference between 'actually insulting Abrahamic faiths' and 'saying something politely that's reasonable and the other person being an ass about it'.

But yeah, even over here there's a good chunk of reasonable and friendly Christians. They're just quiet. :p
 
2012-09-21 03:55:14 PM

PsiChick: Bondith: PsiChick

I know most obnoxious!Christians would take that as an insult, but there's a pretty big difference between 'actually insulting Abrahamic faiths' and 'saying something politely that's reasonable and the other person being an ass about it'.

But yeah, even over here there's a good chunk of reasonable and friendly Christians. They're just quiet. :p


So, if one politely makes the reasonable assertion that any prophet who denies the divinity of Christ in contravention to the most basic tenet of Christianity is a false prophet, anyone who takes that as an insult is "being an ass about it"?
 
2012-09-21 04:34:38 PM
i.imgur.com
"It's douchebags like this that ruin religion for everybody." -- Jesus
 
2012-09-21 04:35:56 PM

wellreadneck: PsiChick: Bondith: PsiChick

So, if one politely makes the reasonable assertion that any prophet who denies the divinity of Christ in contravention to the most basic tenet of Christianity is a false prophet, anyone who takes that as an insult is "being an ass about it"?


It is not actually possible to 'politely make the reasonable assertion' that Christianity is the only true religion.

No one requires you to believe their religion, but you are required to be polite about others. That, or have a fark-ton of proof.
 
2012-09-21 05:25:24 PM

PsiChick: but you are required to be polite about others


Whoa there ... required??

I may choose to be polite if the religious person I'm dealing with is civilized. But, if they start preaching at me, stuffing their crap into science classes or trying to put it into law, I will very loud and clear in expressing what I think of their ridiculous belief in magic ... and it will not be remotely polite.
 
2012-09-21 05:37:00 PM

Farking Canuck: PsiChick: but you are required to be polite about others

Whoa there ... required??

I may choose to be polite if the religious person I'm dealing with is civilized. But, if they start preaching at me, stuffing their crap into science classes or trying to put it into law, I will very loud and clear in expressing what I think of their ridiculous belief in magic ... and it will not be remotely polite.


Did I ever say you had to be polite if they started doing things that are obviously obnoxious and dangerous to our society? Because really, that's not exactly rocket science.

/If they punch you in the face, go for it. Just don't punch them until then. That simple enough?
 
2012-09-21 06:20:59 PM

wellreadneck: So, if one politely makes the reasonable assertion that any prophet who denies the divinity of Christ in contravention to the most basic tenet of Christianity is a false prophet, anyone who takes that as an insult is "being an ass theologian about it"?


FTFY
I don't think they average layperson knows or cares enough about their own faith to even understand that statement, let alone take umbrage.
 
2012-09-21 06:30:48 PM

PsiChick: No one requires you to believe their religion, but you are required to be polite about others. That, or have a fark-ton of proof.


LOL.

If any of you had any proof it wouldn't be called "religion." It would be called "science."
 
2012-09-21 07:53:46 PM

PsiChick: wellreadneck: PsiChick: Bondith: PsiChick

No one requires you to believe their religion, but you are required to be polite about others. That, or have a fark-ton of proof.


Uhhh... wrong on two counts, sorry to say. Lots of religious people DO 'require' you believe their religion, otherwise you are either a godless heathen that is hell-bound, or 'the enemy'. Either way it's way more trouble than it's worth to continue to interact with them. Second there is no constitutional amendment or any other law that says we have to be 'polite' to each other, and frankly... society hardly requires it either at this point. And for the record you can be pretty rude to someone without infringing on their beliefs, or doing anything illegal, it's all about the phrasing or hand gestures involved ^_~
 
2012-09-21 08:19:28 PM

ladyfortuna: wrong


That is her specialty.
 
2012-09-21 08:31:21 PM

ladyfortuna: PsiChick: wellreadneck: PsiChick: Bondith: PsiChick

No one requires you to believe their religion, but you are required to be polite about others. That, or have a fark-ton of proof.

Uhhh... wrong on two counts, sorry to say. Lots of religious people DO 'require' you believe their religion, otherwise you are either a godless heathen that is hell-bound, or 'the enemy'. Either way it's way more trouble than it's worth to continue to interact with them. Second there is no constitutional amendment or any other law that says we have to be 'polite' to each other, and frankly... society hardly requires it either at this point. And for the record you can be pretty rude to someone without infringing on their beliefs, or doing anything illegal, it's all about the phrasing or hand gestures involved ^_~


The people who 'require' you to believe in religion are assholes. And certainly, no, there isn't a law requiring you to be polite, decent, or even a good human being. However, if you aren't, society generally tends to ostracize you except at parties, and you end up in a nursing home wondering why those exes always stabbed you in the back and why the world always had it out for you.

/That's the thing about requirements: Law is not the only thing that can present a choice with a consequence.
 
2012-09-21 08:54:28 PM

ladyfortuna: PsiChick: wellreadneck: PsiChick: Bondith: PsiChick

No one requires you to believe their religion, but you are required to be polite about others. That, or have a fark-ton of proof.

Uhhh... wrong on two counts, sorry to say. Lots of religious people DO 'require' you believe their religion, otherwise you are either a godless heathen that is hell-bound, or 'the enemy'. Either way it's way more trouble than it's worth to continue to interact with them. Second there is no constitutional amendment or any other law that says we have to be 'polite' to each other, and frankly... society hardly requires it either at this point. And for the record you can be pretty rude to someone without infringing on their beliefs, or doing anything illegal, it's all about the phrasing or hand gestures involved ^_~


theneave.com
Being miserable and treating other people like dirt is every New Yorker's God-given right!
 
2012-09-21 09:22:31 PM
[i46.tinypic.com image 233x323]fark you pic
I love you. Marry me. I'll even have the kids.
I was trying to figure out how to respond to this asswipe, and you did it perfectly and simply.
 
2012-09-21 10:13:37 PM

PsiChick: ladyfortuna: PsiChick: wellreadneck: PsiChick: Bondith: PsiChick

The people who 'require' you to believe in religion are assholes. And certainly, no, there isn't a law requiring you to be polite, decent, or even a good human being. However, if you aren't, society generally tends to ostracize you except at parties, and you end up in a nursing home wondering why those exes always stabbed you in the back and why the world always had it out for you.

/That's the thing about requirements: Law is not the only thing that can present a choice with a consequence.


Wowzers.

Thanks, but I already ostracize society BECAUSE people are assholes and not polite. I'm the one who says please, thank you, and holds doors for people.

But keep reading more into it and projecting... I'll be over here, going to bed with my husband.
 
2012-09-21 10:22:49 PM

ladyfortuna: PsiChick: ladyfortuna: PsiChick: wellreadneck: PsiChick: Bondith: PsiChick

The people who 'require' you to believe in religion are assholes. And certainly, no, there isn't a law requiring you to be polite, decent, or even a good human being. However, if you aren't, society generally tends to ostracize you except at parties, and you end up in a nursing home wondering why those exes always stabbed you in the back and why the world always had it out for you.

/That's the thing about requirements: Law is not the only thing that can present a choice with a consequence.

Wowzers.

Thanks, but I already ostracize society BECAUSE people are assholes and not polite. I'm the one who says please, thank you, and holds doors for people.

But keep reading more into it and projecting... I'll be over here, going to bed with my husband.


So why do you want to act like them?
 
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