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(Mandatory)   You already knew this, but Jay Cutler sucks during Thursday night games...and Sunday Night games...and he's not that great on Monday, either   (mandatory.com) divider line 59
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2012-09-20 10:48:31 PM  
He's the new Jeff George. An Indiana boy with a big arm and absolutely no ability to lead.
 
2012-09-20 11:50:03 PM  

Generation_D: He's the new Jeff George. An Indiana boy with a big arm and absolutely no ability to lead.


I don't think Jeff George ever had an offensive line as bad as what Cutler lines up behind.
 
2012-09-21 12:21:37 AM  
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2012-09-21 12:59:20 AM  

DanZero: [img.photobucket.com image 600x320]


Knowing how many women saw that terrifyingly satisfied face while being forcibly penetrated is quite disturbing.

/oh yeah we are suppose to forget about that
// Yet Michael Vick can't play a game without his arrest still being brought up.
/// not saying racists but kinda racists.
 
2012-09-21 12:59:50 AM  
You already knew this, but Jay Cutler sucks during Thursday night games...and Sunday Night games...and he's not that great on Monday, either
 
2012-09-21 01:10:10 AM  
That's a useless infographic. Almost impossible to compare the day/night stats because of the vastly smaller number of games in the night category.
 
2012-09-21 01:10:38 AM  

frtmn7: DanZero: [img.photobucket.com image 600x320]

Knowing how many women saw that terrifyingly satisfied face while being forcibly penetrated is quite disturbing.

/oh yeah we are suppose to forget about that
// Yet Michael Vick can't play a game without his arrest still being brought up.
/// not saying racists but kinda racists.


I can't believe I'm biting, but here goes: Michael Vick was CONVICTED. Rapelithsberger may very well have done the things people have accused of, but until we know for sure it's a dead issue. I can accuse you of having sucked off a goat at a bar in 2008, but it doesn't magically make it true.

Why do you hate America?
 
2012-09-21 01:30:12 AM  

WhyteRaven74: Generation_D: He's the new Jeff George. An Indiana boy with a big arm and absolutely no ability to lead.

I don't think Jeff George ever had an offensive line as bad as what Cutler lines up behind.


He did in those early years with the Colts. Hell that offensive line ended Eric Dickerson's career.

The funny thing about all of the Cutler haters is that they don't seem to realize the difference in the first game this season and the second one. The first game the offensive line actually blocked for him and he had a good game. the second game the offensive line played like they were drunk and guess what, he had a terrible game. Any QB would have had a terrible game with that blocking.
 
2012-09-21 01:32:37 AM  

frtmn7: DanZero: [img.photobucket.com image 600x320]

Knowing how many women saw that terrifyingly satisfied face while being forcibly penetrated is quite disturbing.

/oh yeah we are suppose to forget about that
// Yet Michael Vick can't play a game without his arrest still being brought up.
/// not saying racists but kinda racists.


You spelled rapists wrong.
 
2012-09-21 01:40:30 AM  

dickfreckle: frtmn7: DanZero: [img.photobucket.com image 600x320]

Knowing how many women saw that terrifyingly satisfied face while being forcibly penetrated is quite disturbing.

/oh yeah we are suppose to forget about that
// Yet Michael Vick can't play a game without his arrest still being brought up.
/// not saying racists but kinda racists.

I can't believe I'm biting, but here goes: Michael Vick was CONVICTED. Rapelithsberger may very well have done the things people have accused of, but until we know for sure it's a dead issue. I can accuse you of having sucked off a goat at a bar in 2008, but it doesn't magically make it true.

Why do you hate America?


Well if I got accused by multiple goats while 99.9% of the people in the population are not, you would have to start and wonder if perhaps the accusations are true or at the very least I am somewhere that I should not be in order to be accused, you would be right. This is the internet and you don't need a legal conviction to be considered guilty. Why have a high priced lawyer that magically settle with the victims if 100% innocent. Sorry for the thread jack.
 
2012-09-21 01:49:51 AM  
Vick is just an idiot who wanted to appease his large payroll by bankrolling whatever they wanted. Rapeburger is a sociapaththic monster that served no time or ever got convicted for doing way worse by doing what he wanted. Which is worse? Who served more time? Who is considered a "bad" guy?
 
2012-09-21 01:54:24 AM  

WhyteRaven74: Generation_D: He's the new Jeff George. An Indiana boy with a big arm and absolutely no ability to lead.

I don't think Jeff George ever had an offensive line as bad as what Cutler lines up behind.


you cant blame the line forever. its a different line and a different coach. It is NOT just the line. It never was. That, friends is a product of the science of Jay Culter Apologetics.

Comparing Jay Cutler to Jeff George is an insult to Jeff George. Jeff George had a once or twice in a generation arm that he wasted by being a jackhole. Jay cutler is wasting NOTHING more than third tier NFL talent. He is nothing special. He was a system QB in a Denver offense that made him look good.
 
2012-09-21 01:57:15 AM  

I sound fat: you cant blame the line forever. it


When the quarterback is being sacked a few times per half and being knocked down a bunch more times, you do have to blame the line. And when receivers are dropping balls, well that's on them not the receiver.
 
2012-09-21 01:59:38 AM  
oh yeah, subby, you forgot "sunday day games" and "pickup touch football games with the neighborhood kids" in your list of settings Jay Cutler sucks in.
 
2012-09-21 02:01:55 AM  

WhyteRaven74: I sound fat: you cant blame the line forever. it

When the quarterback is being sacked a few times per half and being knocked down a bunch more times, you do have to blame the line. And when receivers are dropping balls, well that's on them not the receiver.


And where does the responsibilty to know a blitz is coming lie? Where does the responsibility to check out of a bad call lie? Where does the responsibility to hold onto the ball for less time than it takes to read a Tolstoy novel lie?

When Tom Brady gets pressured alot, he does not blame the line. When peyton manning gets... wait, peyton manning is too good of a QB to bet pressured alot.
 
2012-09-21 02:02:12 AM  
I want to show this article to a Bill Swerski Superfan friend of mine so he can indignantly squawk "So you're admitting that 57% of the time Jay Cutler is awesome?"
 
2012-09-21 02:08:46 AM  
I've never understood why sportscasters keep talking about Cutler like he's good. When he was here in Denver he sucked and people were angry that he got traded to the bears. He sucks with the bears. He has the physical attributes of a good quarterback(ability to throw and whatnot), but his mental abilities severely limit him.

How long does it take before the sportscasters finally admit that Cutler just isn't good?
 
2012-09-21 02:12:32 AM  

WhyteRaven74: Generation_D: He's the new Jeff George. An Indiana boy with a big arm and absolutely no ability to lead.

I don't think Jeff George ever had an offensive line as bad as what Cutler lines up behind.


Cutler lined up behind a decent line in Denver (not awesome, but not the sieve that he has now either) and still hurled a pile of interceptions in the red zone.
 
2012-09-21 02:17:38 AM  
As a suffering Denver fan, I can only sit back and laugh. And then cry, because we gave up a healthy winning quarterback for one who's practically in the AARP.
 
2012-09-21 02:29:27 AM  

Explodo: How long does it take before the sportscasters finally admit that Cutler just isn't good?


I don't think they will ever admit it.
 
2012-09-21 02:44:32 AM  

I sound fat: He was a system QB in a Denver offense that made him look good.


It didn't make him look that good, he only started two full seasons and they never made the playoffs.
 
2012-09-21 07:09:30 AM  

I sound fat: When Tom Brady gets pressured alot, he does not blame the line. When peyton manning gets... wait, peyton manning is too good of a QB to bet pressured alot.


OK, wait... you're take is "Peyton Manning is too good to get pressure, and if he did, he wouldn't throw his line under the bus"?

Do you... y'know... watch football? Because Peyton- in his good days with the Colts- would call out his line in a heartbeat if his jersey got dirty.
 
2012-09-21 07:44:00 AM  
Ya know what sucks worse everyday subby? Your blog.
 
2012-09-21 08:14:37 AM  
What I think did Jay some good was a stern HC like Shanahan that would jerk a not in your tail if you screw up. Not Lovie who gives him a juicebox and turns on spongebob when he doesn't throw a pick.
 
2012-09-21 08:18:59 AM  

ongbok: WhyteRaven74: Generation_D: He's the new Jeff George. An Indiana boy with a big arm and absolutely no ability to lead.

I don't think Jeff George ever had an offensive line as bad as what Cutler lines up behind.

He did in those early years with the Colts. Hell that offensive line ended Eric Dickerson's career.

The funny thing about all of the Cutler haters is that they don't seem to realize the difference in the first game this season and the second one. The first game the offensive line actually blocked for him and he had a good game. the second game the offensive line played like they were drunk and guess what, he had a terrible game. Any QB would have had a terrible game with that blocking.


I'm not a hater, I want to like the guy, I really do.

But I watch how he handles adversity, how he throws petulant fits of rage when things don't go his way, and how he rips his teammates.

Playing QB right requires you at least maintain a modicum of personal dignity and respect.

Cutler is a sulking whining brat when things don't go his way.

It gets old fast.

YES, when the entire team around him does their job, then he can shine. If he remembers to step into the pass, not throw off his back foot, not sail the ball into coverage.

Big arm no head bad mechanics and looks like he's perpetually pissed off. I can't see that ever really succeeding, at least not til he pouts his way into getting everything around him what he wants first.
 
2012-09-21 08:20:32 AM  
Jay Cutler has diabetes. Its a known thing that evening time is the worst time for him (or any diabetic) to be doing physical things. So, naturally, this year the NFL decides to give the Bears mostly night games.

Oh, and the O Line sucks, has sucked and will suck. The front office KNOWS they suck, and didnt do anything to shore up the line.
 
2012-09-21 08:32:03 AM  
The Bears always perform awful in primetime - even when they win. The infamous Rex Grossman six turnover game against Matt Leniart and the Arizona Cardinals was a Monday night. Down 20-0 and 23-3, the Bears D scores two second half touchdowns and Devin Hester had a punt return TD to take the lead 24-23. Arizona still had a chance to win that game, but Rackers misses a 40-yard FG, his second miss on the night. It was after that game that Dennis Green had his 'They are who we thought they were! And we let 'em off the hook!' tirade.

Honestly, Dennis Green took that loss well. Arizona dominated that game. Rex Grossman had 4 INTs and 2 fumbles and had a 5th INT challenged and reversed. It seemed almost impossible for Arizona to lose that game. If a QB were trying to purposely throw (no pun intended) the game for money, he wouldn't have played as bad as Sexy Rexy did that night.
 
2012-09-21 08:33:56 AM  

Generation_D: Big arm no head bad mechanics and looks like he's perpetually pissed off. I can't see that ever really succeeding, at least not til he pouts his way into getting everything around him what he wants first.


as a pack fan, he's the best thing that can happen for us. Complete head case who shows enough promise to stick around, but continually sucks in big games. e.g. against us. As for the night games and diabetes, pretty sure they schedule night games based on viewing audience. Sorry Chicago has a competitive team and a large fan base.
 
2012-09-21 08:57:30 AM  

Generation_D: YES, when the entire team around him does their job, then he can shine. If he remembers to step into the pass, not throw off his back foot, not sail the ball into coverage.


Oh, you mean when Webb isn't letting him get sacked every five minutes?
 
2012-09-21 09:07:19 AM  

WhyteRaven74: When the quarterback is being sacked a few times per half and being knocked down a bunch more times, you do have to blame the line. And when receivers are dropping balls, well that's on them not the receiver.


His opponent was sacked as often for the whole game and also had his WRs/TEs drop several passes. Did he start throwing a boatload of INTs?

/then again, it's not saying much to say Rodgers is better than Cutler
 
2012-09-21 09:19:50 AM  

I sound fat: And where does the responsibilty to know a blitz is coming lie? Where does the responsibility to check out of a bad call lie? Where does the responsibility to hold onto the ball for less time than it takes to read a Tolstoy novel lie?

When Tom Brady gets pressured alot, he does not blame the line. When peyton manning gets... wait, peyton manning is too good of a QB to bet pressured alot.


Others have pointed out that Manning had no problem throwing his line under the bus, but...

Last year Cutler dropped back 337 times and took 23 sacks. His replacements were sacked 26 times in 183 drop backs - that's straight awful. David Carr didn't get sacked that much. The line is bad.
 
2012-09-21 09:20:58 AM  

Warmachine999: Jay Cutler has diabetes. Its a known thing that evening time is the worst time for him (or any diabetic) to be doing physical things. So, naturally, this year the NFL decides to give the Bears mostly night games.


Pretty much this. I can think of maybe 1 good afternoon/night game in his career. You'd think a pro athlete would figure out what to inject or eat for later games to make this a non-issue, but then again, it's Jay Cutler.
 
2012-09-21 09:42:17 AM  
I know that Rodgers is a convenient comparison since they're about the same age and they're division rivals, but...you kinda have to say "not as good as the best QB in the league" is a ways from "sucks."

It is weird that Rodgers has only had the opportunity to play two MNF games in the past two seasons, while Cutler has played four (and one of those was against each other, which Cutler won thanks to the Packers racking up a record day in penalties).
 
2012-09-21 09:50:02 AM  

IAmRight: It is weird that Rodgers has only had the opportunity to play two MNF games in the past two seasons, while Cutler has played four


Well we have this Monday coming up (should be a good one, I know you're watching), but then Chicago gets 3 more MNF this season...yeah how the hell did that schedule happen?
 
2012-09-21 09:51:23 AM  

JosephFinn: Generation_D: YES, when the entire team around him does their job, then he can shine. If he remembers to step into the pass, not throw off his back foot, not sail the ball into coverage.

Oh, you mean when Webb isn't letting him get sacked every five minutes?


A different subject entirely. All QB get sacked. How they handle it speaks volumes. Brees, Rogers, Ryan etc all just get up and get in the huddle and come right back.

Jay makes his faces and screams and on the next play is going to force the ball, or throw off the wrong foot, or so something else to magnify a bad situation. Defenses know it and keep coming, it encourages it.

Part of playing quarterback in the NFL is handling a sh*t-ton of adversity on every series. It isn't passively waiting for a wall of hall of famers so you can chuck the ball and get the glory on every play.

Cutler has all the tools. Unfortunately he handles adversity about as badly as any QB I can think of currently. Magnifying a bad outcome to make it worse is not what the position demands. Thats why he frustrates people so much that watch him do it.
 
2012-09-21 09:58:58 AM  

thecpt: Generation_D: Big arm no head bad mechanics and looks like he's perpetually pissed off. I can't see that ever really succeeding, at least not til he pouts his way into getting everything around him what he wants first.

as a pack fan, he's the best thing that can happen for us. Complete head case who shows enough promise to stick around, but continually sucks in big games. e.g. against us. As for the night games and diabetes, pretty sure they schedule night games based on viewing audience. Sorry Chicago has a competitive team and a large fan base.



Favre, Holmgren put you guys back on the map, and the mediocrity of Lovie Smith is keeping you there. Enjoy it, this is your golden age. I can console myself watching three former 85 Bears defensive players and a Bears starting QB are all now head coaches.... and none of them for Chicago.

What I wouldn't give for Harbaugh's passion, or even Leslie Frazier or Ron Rivera coaching in Chicago right now. I'd give Iron Mike Singletary another shot, or at least let him run the defense.

Instead we get passive corporate mediocrity and zero bench strength and bad roster management. Spend a ton on a QB with baggage, neglect to give him a line to throw behind, let the defense age together and soon will be injured and falling apart. Just like last year, and the year before that.

Great organizations have a knack for developing talent and can withstand an injury just by plugging in a new part. Bad organizations put all their eggs in a few baskets that they overpaid to get. Chicago: Cutler, Forte, Urlacher, Briggs, Tilman, Peppers. Take any of these guys out of the lineup and the team collapses. And by November at least 2 of them will be out of the lineup, due to the ridiculous load each of them has to carry. It will happen again and again under Lovie and the way the Bears run their front office.
 
2012-09-21 09:59:08 AM  

Generation_D: It isn't passively waiting for a wall of hall of famers so you can chuck the ball and get the glory on every play.


I do love that all his defenders basically say "well, he has no defense!" (Denver) to "he has no WRs" (Chicago) to "he has no line and no receivers!" (Chicago) to "well, he has no line!" (Chicago).

Newsflash: most teams don't have a perfect team set up around their QB. If you do, then hey, a Trent Dilfer can get you a Super Bowl. Why would you need a "franchise quarterback" like Cutler? Every QB in the NFL can be great if they have lots of time and all their receivers are open.

BTW, anyone else notice that Cam Newton is getting the Denver-era Jay Cutler treatment?

Hey, ESPN - hate to break this to you, but Carolina's offense has been held to 10 or fewer points by both actual defenses they've faced this season. You might point out that no, they're not very good either. (Anyone can put up points on the Saints' "defense" this year).
 
2012-09-21 10:18:44 AM  

Generation_D: Favre, Holmgren put you guys back on the map, and the mediocrity of Lovie Smith is keeping you there. Enjoy it, this is your golden age. I can console myself watching three former 85 Bears defensive players and a Bears starting QB are all now head coaches.... and none of them for Chicago.


Trust me I know its a great time to be one of us. Back to back franchise quarterbacks is ridiculous rarity. I'm having troubles thinking of just one team that has been as fortunate to have this. Seriously.

Our defense has some pretty interchangeable components too. Going off the last three years, we've lost defensive backs like crazy. More season ending injuries than any team and a few key free agency losses (barnett, picket, why did we get rid of KGB?) People say their defense was horrible last year, which they weren't great but they have looked a lot better this year and over the last three years they have kept the team competitive with second and third stringers. I think it speaks volumes about the integrity of our current organization.
 
2012-09-21 11:02:32 AM  

thecpt: I'm having troubles thinking of just one team that has been as fortunate to have this. Seriously


Montana-Young was probably the most recent, although I pretty strongly believe that Indy's got it with Manning-Luck (from what we've seen so far I'd be pretty surprised if Luck doesn't end up in the top 5 QBs in the league eventually).
 
2012-09-21 11:06:24 AM  

thecpt: Trust me I know its a great time to be one of us. Back to back franchise quarterbacks is ridiculous rarity. I'm having troubles thinking of just one team that has been as fortunate to have this. Seriously.


49ers going from Montana to Young is all I can think of
 
2012-09-21 11:14:46 AM  

IAmRight: Hey, ESPN - hate to break this to you, but Carolina's offense has been held to 10 or fewer points by both actual defenses they've faced this season. You might point out that no, they're not very good either. (Anyone can put up points on the Saints' "defense" this year).


They were held to seven points last night by a team whose secondary is basically a bunch of wacky waving inflatable arm-flailing tube men.
 
2012-09-21 11:15:06 AM  

machoprogrammer: thecpt: Trust me I know its a great time to be one of us. Back to back franchise quarterbacks is ridiculous rarity. I'm having troubles thinking of just one team that has been as fortunate to have this. Seriously.

49ers going from Montana to Young is all I can think of


You could make a halfway decent argument for the Chargers going from Brees to Rivers. You could also make a decent argument against that one, though.
 
2012-09-21 11:15:50 AM  

machoprogrammer: thecpt: Trust me I know its a great time to be one of us. Back to back franchise quarterbacks is ridiculous rarity. I'm having troubles thinking of just one team that has been as fortunate to have this. Seriously.

49ers going from Montana to Young is all I can think of


Tebow to Manning? Wait, I don't understand the question...
 
2012-09-21 11:22:37 AM  
What about the Giants with Kurt Warner and Eli? Warner wasn't himself in Nueva York, but that's most likely two first-ballot Hall of Famers in a row.
 
2012-09-21 11:24:04 AM  

Generation_D: Great organizations have a knack for developing talent and can withstand an injury just by plugging in a new part. Bad organizations put all their eggs in a few baskets that they overpaid to get. Chicago: Cutler, Forte, Urlacher, Briggs, Tilman, Peppers. Take any of these guys out of the lineup and the team collapses. And by November at least 2 of them will be out of the lineup, due to the ridiculous load each of them has to carry. It will happen again and again under Lovie and the way the Bears run their front office.


Chicago is actually developing some talent behind the big four on defense. Henry Melton was good last year and he has a shot at being dominant this year; he's expanded his game so he's a run stopper as well as a pass rusher. Chris Conte won't be making the Pro Bowl anytime soon, but he's looking like the best safety CHI has had since Mike Brown, albeit his strength is coverage instead of run stopping. And through two games, Shea McClellin has gotten more consistent pressure than I would have expected from a tiny, white DE. I would not be surprised if those three take up the mantle from Urlacher/Briggs/Peanut/Peppers in a year or two.

On offense, well, Jeffery hasn't been an embarrassment of a pick so far, I guess.
 
2012-09-21 11:39:56 AM  
Cutler's demeanor and expression have always reminded me of Spaulding from Caddyshack. Am I the only one?
 
2012-09-21 11:59:36 AM  

Generation_D: ongbok: WhyteRaven74: Generation_D: He's the new Jeff George. An Indiana boy with a big arm and absolutely no ability to lead.

I don't think Jeff George ever had an offensive line as bad as what Cutler lines up behind.

He did in those early years with the Colts. Hell that offensive line ended Eric Dickerson's career.

The funny thing about all of the Cutler haters is that they don't seem to realize the difference in the first game this season and the second one. The first game the offensive line actually blocked for him and he had a good game. the second game the offensive line played like they were drunk and guess what, he had a terrible game. Any QB would have had a terrible game with that blocking.

I'm not a hater, I want to like the guy, I really do.

But I watch how he handles adversity, how he throws petulant fits of rage when things don't go his way, and how he rips his teammates.

Playing QB right requires you at least maintain a modicum of personal dignity and respect.

Cutler is a sulking whining brat when things don't go his way.

It gets old fast.

YES, when the entire team around him does their job, then he can shine. If he remembers to step into the pass, not throw off his back foot, not sail the ball into coverage.

Big arm no head bad mechanics and looks like he's perpetually pissed off. I can't see that ever really succeeding, at least not til he pouts his way into getting everything around him what he wants first.


You know who else yelled and gestured angrily at their team mate on the field, with the cameras rolling? Rodgers.

This whole discussion of 'leadership' is the product of the Chicago media spewing out nothing but 'Can Cutler Lead?!' stories for the past week - literally, that's all they ran until Urlacher managed to get them talking about his knee again.

If we're relying solely on television evidence, you can clearly see a grasp of leadership as he deftly adjusts his style to fit the individual and situation. Case and point, he was in the face of Webb, and there is an oft-discussed shot of him talking quietly about routes/drops with Marshall. Early in the game, he was in the face of Marshall.

Different situations and different people, call for different styles.
 
2012-09-21 12:10:18 PM  

DeathByGeekSquad: You know who else yelled and gestured angrily at their team mate on the field, with the cameras rolling? Rodgers.


He's also had a mini-"is he a leader?" crisis. The difference is that he's won a Super Bowl and been a league MVP and posted the highest passer rating in the history of the league.
 
2012-09-21 12:18:34 PM  

Mr_Fabulous: Cutler's demeanor and expression have always reminded me of Spaulding from Caddyshack. Am I the only one?


I can see that, but my take is that he ALWAYS looks like he's fresh off a crying jag.
 
2012-09-21 12:21:14 PM  
Correlation apparently equals causation now, according to TFA. Night games are usually played against the better teams in the league (since the NFL wants to showcase their best teams and rivalries in primetime. Also, just for fun, let's compare Cutler with the best QB in the league, and then say he sucks when he obviously doesn't measure up.

/on a separate note, anybody who criticizes Cutler because of his facial expressions really needs to get a life
 
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