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(Talking Points Memo)   Former GOP presidential frontrunner Rick Perry blames the separation of church and state on Satan   (tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com) divider line 291
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2012-09-20 08:16:43 PM  

EatTheWorld: Somacandra: Statism exists in a variety of ideological flavors. Its not a religion itself though--religions have rituals. Specific nationalisms on the other hand are quite religious. American civil religion has its sacred scriptures (Const, DOI), its rituals (voting, pledge of allegiance) and its mythic narrative it convinces itself its about (twirling, ever-twirling towards freedom and progress).

semantics I say. What is the difference between fanaticism for the church or the state?


while that's an interesting side discussion, it's not really all that relevant to THIS conversation...which is about a key member of the Republican party who's pretty open about his wish to turn the USA into a theocratic regime.
 
2012-09-20 08:18:05 PM  

GAT_00: [i575.photobucket.com image 500x375]

Came, saw, leaving satisfied.
 
2012-09-20 08:19:42 PM  
This just solidifies my belief that these fundies are jealous of their Muslim counterparts. They are upset that the middle east has a working theocracy and we don't
 
2012-09-20 08:19:51 PM  

Weaver95: while that's an interesting side discussion, it's not really all that relevant to THIS conversation...which is about a key member of the Republican party who's pretty open about his wish to turn the USA into a theocratic regime.


Oh forbid me to change topics? I see church up there with the blue fox on a red ball.... And Rick Perry, fark him, he lost miserably. Pathetically. And deserved to do so. Liberals love government, can't you admit that?
 
2012-09-20 08:21:14 PM  

EatTheWorld: Weaver95: while that's an interesting side discussion, it's not really all that relevant to THIS conversation...which is about a key member of the Republican party who's pretty open about his wish to turn the USA into a theocratic regime.

Oh forbid me to change topics? I see church up there with the blue fox on a red ball.... And Rick Perry, fark him, he lost miserably. Pathetically. And deserved to do so. Liberals love government, can't you admit that?


i'm wondering why you seem so desperate to change the subject....
 
2012-09-20 08:21:16 PM  

Weaver95: EatTheWorld: Somacandra: Statism exists in a variety of ideological flavors. Its not a religion itself though--religions have rituals. Specific nationalisms on the other hand are quite religious. American civil religion has its sacred scriptures (Const, DOI), its rituals (voting, pledge of allegiance) and its mythic narrative it convinces itself its about (twirling, ever-twirling towards freedom and progress).

semantics I say. What is the difference between fanaticism for the church or the state?

while that's an interesting side discussion, it's not really all that relevant to THIS conversation...which is about a key member of the Republican party who's pretty open about his wish to turn the USA into a theocratic regime.


In a perverse way, that attempt would be fun to watch. Fundies vs Liberal Christians. Live on pay per view.
 
2012-09-20 08:23:23 PM  

Diogenes: The funniest thing about these jerks is that they don't realize (or deliberately choose not to, which is much worse) that the separation clause is there to protect them as much as it is to protect our form of governance. It's a two-way street.


Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity. They do believe in fairy tales after all.
 
2012-09-20 08:23:52 PM  
Yes I admit he's got a thinking problem , he always lacks a mind.
 
2012-09-20 08:24:24 PM  

John Buck 41: Frontrunner?

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Early on in the primaries, he was polling the highest. Then he forgot what the third thing was and started speaking in tongues.
 
2012-09-20 08:24:44 PM  
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2012-09-20 08:26:39 PM  

elchip: [t.qkme.me image 206x310]


" Let me give you a little inside information about God. God likes to watch. He's a prankster. Think about it. He gives man instincts. He gives you this extraordinary gift, and then what does He do, I swear for His own amusement, his own private, cosmic gag reel, He sets the rules in opposition. It's the goof of all time. Look but don't touch. Touch, but don't taste. Taste, don't swallow. Ahaha. And while you're jumpin' from one foot to the next, what is he doing? He's laughin' His sick, farkin' ass off! He's a tight-ass! He's a SADIST! He's an absentee landlord! Worship that? NEVER! "
 
2012-09-20 08:27:54 PM  

simplicimus: In a perverse way, that attempt would be fun to watch. Fundies vs Liberal Christians. Live on pay per view.


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Weaver95: i'm wondering why you seem so desperate to change the subject....


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2012-09-20 08:27:56 PM  
Being religious should automatically disqualify one from holding public office.
 
2012-09-20 08:28:35 PM  
I'll bet if you pointed out to ol' Rick that the very same sentiments of being a "soldier" or "warrior" for his religion are the same as radical Muslims, he'd have a conniption and fart kittens.

/I tell ya, some people's kids...
 
2012-09-20 08:28:37 PM  
talkingpointsmemo.com

God is the answer to everything!

www.theblaze.com

HEY! That's MY LINE!
 
2012-09-20 08:28:48 PM  
Well then... thank you, Satan.
 
2012-09-20 08:29:21 PM  
There are some great comments at the foot of the article too.

Just to repeat a few of the ideas from those, for folks who might not have bothered to read them:

I wondered how the Republicans figured Mitt Romney is the best they can manage, then you read an article like this and understand how that happened.

He's afraid of Sharia Law, which comes from someone else's bible, but he has no problem doing the same thing to Americans. And, on that topic, I'm sure we all agree that this approach has really worked well in the Middle East.

His comments don't offer much explanation as to why God repeatedly fails to intervene in elections, including his own primaries, and actually therefore suggest that Perry agrees God wanted Obama elected in 2008.
 
2012-09-20 08:30:18 PM  
If I could post a photo of myself facepalming I would
 
2012-09-20 08:31:06 PM  

FlashHarry: Diogenes: The funniest thing about these jerks is that they don't realize (or deliberately choose not to, which is much worse) that the separation clause is there to protect them as much as it is to protect our form of governance. It's a two-way street.

no shiat: "or prohibit the free exercise thereof."


I hope you're not serious, but on the off chance that you are...

Do you understand how establishing state religion is a violation of every other religion in the country?

Let's say Catholics get to call the shots, No meat on Fridays, mandatory Mass, legal homosexual child rape...

How is that, in any sense, "free exercise of religion?"
 
2012-09-20 08:32:29 PM  
Exactly what I would expect the antichrist to say.
 
2012-09-20 08:33:24 PM  

AssAsInAssassin: FlashHarry: Diogenes: The funniest thing about these jerks is that they don't realize (or deliberately choose not to, which is much worse) that the separation clause is there to protect them as much as it is to protect our form of governance. It's a two-way street.

no shiat: "or prohibit the free exercise thereof."

I hope you're not serious, but on the off chance that you are...

Do you understand how establishing state religion is a violation of every other religion in the country?

Let's say Catholics get to call the shots, No meat on Fridays, mandatory Mass, legal homosexual child rape...

How is that, in any sense, "free exercise of religion?"


Hey, we dumped the meatless Fridays!
 
2012-09-20 08:33:46 PM  

qorkfiend: EatTheWorld: And it seems clear that is the way democrats want it. Therefore the liberal religion is born.

You're serious, aren't you.


Saw this coming in his Boobies. I have him labled as "Troll, crazy, or Tatsuma." It was pretty obvious he was trying to setup for a "Liberals worship government and it's their religion" line of trolling crap.
 
2012-09-20 08:34:00 PM  

vernonFL: Does Rick Perry believe in Voodoo dolls, Ouija boards, Tarot Cards, and other nonsense?


Tarrot Cards were actually a way to play cards and the Major Arcana were trump cards in Tarrot games. I really should learn to play some of them.
 
2012-09-20 08:34:23 PM  

EatTheWorld: EatTheWorld: semantics I say. What is the difference between fanaticism for the church or the state?



The state represents reality and the church doesn't.
 
2012-09-20 08:35:02 PM  
And so the race for the Republican 2016 nomination begins.
 
2012-09-20 08:35:07 PM  
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2012-09-20 08:36:04 PM  

Unoriginal_Username: This just solidifies my belief that these fundies are jealous of their Muslim counterparts.


As they should be. When their Muslim counterparts turn the derp up to 11, all of the enlightened types around here come out of the woodwork to defend them with cries of "overzealous staffer!" and "isolated incident!" Here, we just treat them all like the retards they are.
 
2012-09-20 08:36:14 PM  

meat0918: Perry should also be reminded then that according to his Bible, all earthly authority derives from God.

Therefore, God chose Obama.

//Also, revolt is a sin just like witchcraft, so knock off the secession talk!


That's one thing that really drives them nuts. I remember my great aunt going on and on about how God himself put Reagan in power. When I asked her why God then allowed Clinton to be President, she just got angry and changed the subject.
 
2012-09-20 08:36:16 PM  
Shut up, Governor good hair, you cock!
 
2012-09-20 08:36:37 PM  

Darwin's Prophet: And so the race for the Republican 2016 nomination begins.


I don't think the GOP understands just how weak their position is in this country.
 
2012-09-20 08:36:38 PM  
(i did this) 

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2012-09-20 08:36:47 PM  

Abox: The state represents reality and the church doesn't.


indeed my friend, but in the end, someone is getting farked. and that's not "fair"
 
2012-09-20 08:38:20 PM  

Darwin's Prophet: And so the race for the Republican 2016 nomination begins.


OMG can we do better than a Daily Show emmy season next time please? Like serious people? Maybe? PLEASE?
 
2012-09-20 08:39:10 PM  

Silly Jesus: Being religious should automatically disqualify one from holding public office.


Oh? And how would you define "religious?" What if someone holds onto a socio-political idoloegy which functions just like a religion but doesn't involve the worship of a god? I know atheists who firmly believe that certains stripes of radical feminism, Marxism and environmentalism to be defacto religions in and of themselves. (Involving something resembling Original Sin [patriarchy, pollution], and the belief that one can attain a heavenly utopia on earth just by observing certain rules and behaviors. And believing that it's right to force people into adopting the way of life THEY believe is best for everybody.) One doesn't have to believe in a god to hold irrational, emotion-based beliefs. Or to be a menace to free people everywhere.
 
2012-09-20 08:39:21 PM  
Personally, I would have blamed it on crushed velvet.

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2012-09-20 08:39:27 PM  

EatTheWorld: Abox: The state represents reality and the church doesn't.

indeed my friend, but in the end, someone is getting farked. and that's not "fair"



wut
 
2012-09-20 08:39:30 PM  
It's so awesome when the governor of Texas say something more batshiat insane than Ahmadinejad
 
2012-09-20 08:40:01 PM  

vernonFL: Does Rick Perry believe in Voodoo dolls, Ouija boards, Tarot Cards, and other nonsense?


Well, why wouldn't he? Those are all real things.
 
2012-09-20 08:40:24 PM  

EatTheWorld: Darwin's Prophet: And so the race for the Republican 2016 nomination begins.

OMG can we do better than a Daily Show emmy season next time please? Like serious people? Maybe? PLEASE?


this isn't working out very well for you.
 
2012-09-20 08:40:45 PM  

AssAsInAssassin: FlashHarry: Diogenes: The funniest thing about these jerks is that they don't realize (or deliberately choose not to, which is much worse) that the separation clause is there to protect them as much as it is to protect our form of governance. It's a two-way street.

no shiat: "or prohibit the free exercise thereof."

I hope you're not serious, but on the off chance that you are...

Do you understand how establishing state religion is a violation of every other religion in the country?

Let's say Catholics get to call the shots, No meat on Fridays, mandatory Mass, legal homosexual child rape...

How is that, in any sense, "free exercise of religion?"


It isn't, which juuuust maybe is the reason he posted what he did.
 
2012-09-20 08:41:25 PM  
In the bible, God runs things and Satan is nearly powerless
In "reality", Satan runs things and God is nearly powerless.
 
2012-09-20 08:42:16 PM  
Beware of Apples, Governor. They're the Devil's Food.
 
2012-09-20 08:43:03 PM  

Hickory-smoked: vernonFL: Does Rick Perry believe in Voodoo dolls, Ouija boards, Tarot Cards, and other nonsense?

Well, why wouldn't he? Those are all real things.


If Catholic, then no. If he belongs to any of those other heretical religions, then probably.
 
2012-09-20 08:43:58 PM  
Obvious tag on vacation?
 
2012-09-20 08:44:56 PM  
I recall with pleasure the day that this asshole's "Strong" video on Youtube got 100,000 dislikes within 12 hours of it being posted. Fark was a part of that. Good times.

I see that it now has over 770,000 dislikes.

Link

For those who don't want to click on the link, here's the text of his political ad:

I'm not ashamed to admit that I'm a Christian, but you don't need to be in the pew every Sunday to know there's something wrong in this country when gays can serve openly in the military but our kids can't openly celebrate Christmas or pray in school.

As President, I'll end Obama's war on religion. And I'll fight against liberal attacks on our religious heritage.

Faith made America strong. It can make her strong again.

I'm Rick Perry and I approve this message


770k dislikes. Nobody likes you, Rick, you stupid coont. STFU, GTFO, and DIAF.
 
2012-09-20 08:45:12 PM  

AssAsInAssassin: FlashHarry: Diogenes: The funniest thing about these jerks is that they don't realize (or deliberately choose not to, which is much worse) that the separation clause is there to protect them as much as it is to protect our form of governance. It's a two-way street.

no shiat: "or prohibit the free exercise thereof."

I hope you're not serious, but on the off chance that you are...


Uh, the previous two posters were agreeing with each other.
 
2012-09-20 08:45:13 PM  

FlashHarry: of course, "former GOP presidential frontrunner" also applies to certified batshiat crazies such as michelle bachmann, herman cain, newt gingrich, and rick santorum - pretty much "anyone but romney." and look who they ended up with....

the sad thing is, jon huntsman would be ahead right now if he had gotten the GOP nom.


True, but the current GOP won't choose anybody in the primaries who has a legitimate chance in the general election. The primaries are about pandering to the extremists, a race to the far-right and to appear as ideologically pure as possible, followed by a sprint back to the center to convince the American mainstream, while trying to distance themselves from everything they said and did during the primaries, on top of having to take a far-right VP nominee to keep the hardcore followers satisfied after the nominee goes to the center.

The 2008 and 2012 elections have followed this cycle, and as long as it holds, the GOP won't have the White House anymore.
 
2012-09-20 08:45:14 PM  

Lost Thought 00: They're the Devil's Food.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I__cFHgkwxk
 
2012-09-20 08:45:55 PM  

God-is-a-Taco: In the bible, God runs things and Satan is nearly powerless
In "reality", Satan runs things and God is nearly powerless.


for what its worth, I don't think there IS 'one true god'. I think the pagans are closer to figuring it out - there's a bunch of gods and spirits and the spirit world is just as muddied as this world.

also, 'satan' (or lucifer if you'd prefer) seems to have been more of a job description and less of an actual rebellious angel (although there might have been more than a few of those kicking around).
 
2012-09-20 08:46:23 PM  

simplicimus: Hickory-smoked: vernonFL: Does Rick Perry believe in Voodoo dolls, Ouija boards, Tarot Cards, and other nonsense?

Well, why wouldn't he? Those are all real things.

If Catholic, then no. If he belongs to any of those other heretical religions, then probably.


No really, they are actual physical objects. I think I even have a deck in my office somewhere...
 
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