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(Cincinnati Enquirer)   Get two teeth knocked out and your ass kicked at school because your brother talked to the police? Here is your suspension   (news.cincinnati.com) divider line 106
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2012-09-20 09:55:31 AM
Later on Sept. 4, North College Hill High School officials told police both teens were "mutual combatants" during the fight and had been suspended as a result, the report shows.

ok, here's the deal. If I'm a kid in this school and another kid starts a fight with me....I now know that NOTHING will stop me from being suspended. i'm going to be punished just as harshly as the jerk who started the fight. I have no recourse, no appeal - i'm boned either way. So there is zero incentive for me to play by the rules now. I might as well go whole hog and f*ck this shiat right up. grab weapons, fight dirty, kick, punch....you name it. hey, i'm going down hard either way. I have no incentive to avoid a fight or get outta there.

ya gotta love policies that end up encouraging violence rather than reducing it.
 
2012-09-20 10:14:25 AM
So while Florida has a Stand Your Ground law, it appears Ohio has a Cede Your Ground law. At least in the schools.
 
2012-09-20 10:19:04 AM
ZERO TOLERANCE
 
2012-09-20 10:26:40 AM
Sounds like the principal is conspiring to intimidate a witness. That's a felony.
 
2012-09-20 10:37:09 AM
I don't even understand how the school has authority on this stuff. You would think they would immediately call the police. Assault, battery, and witness intimidation are things that should extend beyond school administrators. When he is late to class or talks back to a teacher they can handle that.
 
2012-09-20 10:38:01 AM
So the kids in the original attack are twins, but their ages are listed as 13 and 14. What the...?

I don't understand this. I need coffee.
 
2012-09-20 10:43:50 AM

ecmoRandomNumbers: So the kids in the original attack are twins, but their ages are listed as 13 and 14. What the...?

I don't understand this. I need coffee.


I felt the same. It's like pronoun confusion but with numbers.
 
2012-09-20 10:44:16 AM

Marcus Aurelius: Sounds like the principal is conspiring to intimidate a witness. That's a felony.

 
2012-09-20 10:59:40 AM
So 13 year old twin brothers beat the hell out of the guy around a month ago (guy in the pic). A boy, 17, saw this and discussed it with police and is offering to testify if asked. The 17 year old's brother, who is 15, is the kid who got beatup by the twin's 14 year old brother.

They may have clarified this more now, I know they fixed 5-6 other grammatical or spelling errors since I read this a bit ago. This newspaper has a policy of posting whatever shiat they can as quickly as it can be typed, without even bothering to run spell check. Later on they make changes and delete the comments from the people pointing them out. No clue why they are going under though.
 
2012-09-20 11:02:03 AM
Sounds like a great family you raised there.

This is why I am pro-abortion.
 
2012-09-20 11:49:07 AM

Weaver95:

ya gotta love policies that end up encouraging violence rather than reducing it.



Which is why I expect a few followup articles from the Hatefuls, and McClowns out there in Methville.
 
2012-09-20 11:57:04 AM
Snitches get stitches.
 
2012-09-20 11:58:34 AM

ecmoRandomNumbers: So the kids in the original attack are twins, but their ages are listed as 13 and 14. What the...?

I don't understand this. I need coffee.


Three brothers. One is 14, two are 13.
 
2012-09-20 11:59:25 AM

Marcus Aurelius: Sounds like the principal is conspiring to intimidate a witness. That's a felony.


This is what I would hope I would be clear-headed enough to say as a parent.
 
2012-09-20 11:59:52 AM

Aarontology: ZERO TOLERANCE

= ZERO INTELLIGENCE

/Learn it, know it, live it.
 
2012-09-20 12:00:03 PM

NickelP: So 13 year old twin brothers beat the hell out of the guy around a month ago (guy in the pic). A boy, 17, saw this and discussed it with police and is offering to testify if asked. The 17 year old's brother, who is 15, is the kid who got beatup by the twin's twins' 14 year old brother.

They may have clarified this more now, I know they fixed 5-6 other grammatical or spelling errors since I read this a bit ago. This newspaper has a policy of posting whatever shiat they can as quickly as it can be typed, without even bothering to run spell check. Later on they make changes and delete the comments from the people pointing them out. No clue why they are going under though.


FTFY
 
2012-09-20 12:00:37 PM

doubled99: Snitches get stitches.


Thugs get slugs.
 
2012-09-20 12:01:51 PM

Marcus Aurelius: Sounds like the principal is conspiring to intimidate a witness. That's a felony.


^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 
2012-09-20 12:01:55 PM

Marcus Aurelius: Sounds like the principal is conspiring to intimidate a witness. That's a felony.


This
 
2012-09-20 12:02:56 PM
It's very important that this not be a teaching moment.
 
2012-09-20 12:03:16 PM

TheRameres: NickelP: So 13 year old twin brothers beat the hell out of the guy around a month ago (guy in the pic). A boy, 17, saw this and discussed it with police and is offering to testify if asked. The 17 year old's brother, who is 15, is the kid who got beatup by the twin's twins' 14 year old brother.

They may have clarified this more now, I know they fixed 5-6 other grammatical or spelling errors since I read this a bit ago. This newspaper has a policy of posting whatever shiat they can as quickly as it can be typed, without even bothering to run spell check. Later on they make changes and delete the comments from the people pointing them out. No clue why they are going under though.

FTFY


They are both correct, theoretically speaking.

//god I hope you never see any of the threads I comment in on my phone. Correcting that stuff would be a part time job for someone.
 
2012-09-20 12:04:40 PM
Snitches get 'spenshun!
 
2012-09-20 12:05:10 PM
The kid still looks like he's 40... or a rough 30.
 
2012-09-20 12:07:53 PM
Oh, it's Cincinasty. Carry on.
 
2012-09-20 12:08:25 PM
Robin Rhodes, the mother of a 15-year-old North College Hill High School student filed a police report Sept. 4 saying her son, whose older brother, 17, witnessed the attack, was confronted in a school hallway by one of the teen suspect's relatives, 14.

I cast Grammar of Profound Confusion +2.
 
2012-09-20 12:08:44 PM
"Then one of their brothers went after my brother because of what I saw and I told on them. They were scared to come after me. I am 5-foot-11 and weigh 268 pounds."


you sound fat.
 
2012-09-20 12:09:04 PM
Admittedly, I'm getting more addle-brained as I get older, but a few of those paragraphs read like that girl in that Ferris Bueller movie the kids are into these days. Y'know the one where she's talking about how her best friend's cousin's sister knows a guy whose brother's uncle knew a guy...
 
2012-09-20 12:09:11 PM
That is a bunch of sh*t. I hope she called Eric Deters and he sues the pants off them.
 
2012-09-20 12:09:51 PM

Aarontology: ZERO TOLERANCE


Zero tolerance is a load of fark. The school knew the circumstances behind this attack and should have called the cops. The police are better equipped to sort something of this nature out. If one of my kids gets the fark beat out of them and gets suspended as a result there will be hell to pay when i get there. Zero tolerance is the most ridiculous policy we have in school systems right now.
 
2012-09-20 12:10:09 PM
As someone else mentioned in another thread on the topic, zero-tolerance is bullshiat because a physical aggressor will always succeed in getting what they want. They know that their victim is not willing to fight because of the risk that a suspension will put on their permanent record. Meanwhile, the bully is content in being suspended.
 
2012-09-20 12:10:44 PM

doubled99: Snitches get stitches.


And we're done here.
 
2012-09-20 12:11:18 PM
The obvious solution is to encourage children to kill anyone who attacks them without provocation. They will receive no more harsh a punishment than would be given for being attacked while offering no resistance, and future attacks will be averted.
 
2012-09-20 12:11:36 PM
She found him in the nurse's office with an ice pack on his chin, one of his missing teeth in his pocket and a school official writing up a discipline form.

Silly, if it's in his pocket it's not missing. That's a hard 15 years.
 
2012-09-20 12:12:03 PM

dittybopper: doubled99: Snitches get stitches.

Thugs get slugs.


Awesome.
 
2012-09-20 12:12:43 PM

trappedspirit: She found him in the nurse's office with an ice pack on his chin, one of his missing teeth in his pocket and a school official writing up a discipline form.

Silly, if it's in his pocket it's not missing. That's a hard 15 years.


Where did the other one go?
 
2012-09-20 12:14:50 PM
Gee. No wonder kids end up shooting up schools if this is how the faculty treats them.
 
2012-09-20 12:14:55 PM

NickelP:
They may have clarified this more now, I know they fixed 5-6 other grammatical or spelling errors since I read this a bit ago. This newspaper has a policy of posting whatever shiat they can as quickly as it can be typed, without even bothering to run spell check. Later on they make changes and delete the comments from the people pointing them out. No clue why they are going under though.


And the news company wants to start charging real money for this shiat.

anyway....

Also this whole story is one big farking mess. Teens beating a man almost to death and its not a hate crime because they are "bored?"

No word if teens had a bright future or were good kids that just made a bad decision....

/Cincinnati loves a good riot though.
 
2012-09-20 12:16:29 PM

evilboyevil: permanent record


I want to tell everyone who is still in school something.

YOU SHOULDN'T BE ON FARK!


/Also, there is no such thing as a permanent record. It's bullshiat to scare you.
//you will never hear about it again once you graduate high school. ever.
 
2012-09-20 12:18:18 PM

Tango_down: NickelP:
They may have clarified this more now, I know they fixed 5-6 other grammatical or spelling errors since I read this a bit ago. This newspaper has a policy of posting whatever shiat they can as quickly as it can be typed, without even bothering to run spell check. Later on they make changes and delete the comments from the people pointing them out. No clue why they are going under though.

And the news company wants to start charging real money for this shiat.

anyway....

Also this whole story is one big farking mess. Teens beating a man almost to death and its not a hate crime because they are "bored?"

No word if teens had a bright future or were good kids that just made a bad decision....

/Cincinnati loves a good riot though.


I think you are kidding but one of the moms of the kids that jumped the original guy said that almost verbatim and then said something eluding to 'boys will be boys'. I'm not sure if it was the twins mom or another one.
 
2012-09-20 12:18:54 PM

fluffy2097: evilboyevil: permanent record

I want to tell everyone who is still in school something.

YOU SHOULDN'T BE ON FARK!


/Also, there is no such thing as a permanent record. It's bullshiat to scare you.
//you will never hear about it again once you graduate high school. ever.


How will they ever get an education then?
 
2012-09-20 12:19:28 PM

Aarontology: ZERO TOLERANCE


Yeah, it's just a shame that doesn't lead to ZERO VIOLENCE.
 
2012-09-20 12:22:51 PM

bdub77: /Also, there is no such thing as a permanent record. It's bullshiat to scare you.
//you will never hear about it again once you graduate high school. ever.


^^^ The truth.
 
2012-09-20 12:25:30 PM

NickelP: Tango_down: NickelP:
They may have clarified this more now, I know they fixed 5-6 other grammatical or spelling errors since I read this a bit ago. This newspaper has a policy of posting whatever shiat they can as quickly as it can be typed, without even bothering to run spell check. Later on they make changes and delete the comments from the people pointing them out. No clue why they are going under though.

And the news company wants to start charging real money for this shiat.

anyway....

Also this whole story is one big farking mess. Teens beating a man almost to death and its not a hate crime because they are "bored?"

No word if teens had a bright future or were good kids that just made a bad decision....

/Cincinnati loves a good riot though.

I think you are kidding but one of the moms of the kids that jumped the original guy said that almost verbatim and then said something eluding to 'boys will be boys'. I'm not sure if it was the twins mom or another one.


No, he wasn't kidding. It was his Mom. I saw her say it on at Local News interview. The city is trying to get rid of the family and they may succeed because they are renters and you can legally expel problem tenants. And I can pretty much assure you this is going to cause some major backlash.
 
2012-09-20 12:28:35 PM

Weaver95: Later on Sept. 4, North College Hill High School officials told police both teens were "mutual combatants" during the fight and had been suspended as a result, the report shows.

ok, here's the deal. If I'm a kid in this school and another kid starts a fight with me....I now know that NOTHING will stop me from being suspended. i'm going to be punished just as harshly as the jerk who started the fight. I have no recourse, no appeal - i'm boned either way. So there is zero incentive for me to play by the rules now. I might as well go whole hog and f*ck this shiat right up. grab weapons, fight dirty, kick, punch....you name it. hey, i'm going down hard either way. I have no incentive to avoid a fight or get outta there.

ya gotta love policies that end up encouraging violence rather than reducing it.


100% agree. Been sending the younglings to krav maga instead of karate.
 
2012-09-20 12:29:44 PM

fluffy2097: evilboyevil: permanent record

I want to tell everyone who is still in school something.

YOU SHOULDN'T BE ON FARK!


/Also, there is no such thing as a permanent record. It's bullshiat to scare you.
//you will never hear about it again once you graduate high school. ever.


Yeah but it can in some cases fark you in the meantime. When applying to colleges, for instance.
 
2012-09-20 12:30:34 PM
i723.photobucket.com
 
2012-09-20 12:32:20 PM

doubled99: Snitches get stitches.


Every time there's a major crime in some poor/working-class neighborhood that same tired mantra gets tossed around. If you won't talk to the police you deserve to be victimized.
 
2012-09-20 12:33:00 PM

freewill: bdub77: /Also, there is no such thing as a permanent record. It's bullshiat to scare you.
//you will never hear about it again once you graduate high school. ever.

^^^ The truth.


Are you guys still in school or something?
 
2012-09-20 12:33:22 PM

RminusQ: When applying to colleges, for instance


Colleges care nothing about your permanent record. That is another lie you are told.
They care about your GPA, they care about your race, and they care about your credit limit.

/The next lie they tell you is that you give up any of your rights by entering the school.
//you still have the right to privacy and to not be subject to unreasonable search.
 
2012-09-20 12:37:49 PM

Cold_Sassy: NickelP: Tango_down: NickelP:
They may have clarified this more now, I know they fixed 5-6 other grammatical or spelling errors since I read this a bit ago. This newspaper has a policy of posting whatever shiat they can as quickly as it can be typed, without even bothering to run spell check. Later on they make changes and delete the comments from the people pointing them out. No clue why they are going under though.

And the news company wants to start charging real money for this shiat.

anyway....

Also this whole story is one big farking mess. Teens beating a man almost to death and its not a hate crime because they are "bored?"

No word if teens had a bright future or were good kids that just made a bad decision....

/Cincinnati loves a good riot though.

I think you are kidding but one of the moms of the kids that jumped the original guy said that almost verbatim and then said something eluding to 'boys will be boys'. I'm not sure if it was the twins mom or another one.

No, he wasn't kidding. It was his Mom. I saw her say it on at Local News interview. The city is trying to get rid of the family and they may succeed because they are renters and you can legally expel problem tenants. And I can pretty much assure you this is going to cause some major backlash.


You can expel people from a city? Like take them to the edge, dump them and say "stay the fark out?"
 
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