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(NPR)   Is there really a multiverse? And if so, would your counterpart have made the same choices, or would they have made it to shift manager at 7-11 by now?   (npr.org) divider line 95
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2012-09-20 11:28:02 AM
i212.photobucket.com

Seriously love this stuff but I have a hard time wrapping my head around any of it.
 
2012-09-20 11:29:04 AM
There was a parallel universe, but my counterpart destroyed it.
 
2012-09-20 11:33:59 AM

rumpelstiltskin: There was a parallel universe, but my counterpart destroyed it.


Did he have a goatee?
 
2012-09-20 12:48:51 PM
I have a goatee, does that make this the evil universe?

/'cause that would explain a few things...
 
2012-09-20 12:49:47 PM

SnarfVader: [i212.photobucket.com image 277x345]

Seriously love this stuff but I have a hard time wrapping my head around any of it.



Here's a great book to start with:
 
Link
 
Its somewhat simplistic, but that's the point.  I loved it, couldn't put it down.
 
2012-09-20 02:21:50 PM

sno man: I have a goatee, does that make this the evil universe?


No, your evil universe counterpart would have a double goatee.

/mine would have quadruple tinfoil pigtails
 
2012-09-20 02:30:58 PM
This is truly the darkest of thread timelines
 
2012-09-20 02:32:05 PM
I'm not going to pay much attention to string theory until they actually come up with some falsifiable claims. That's a serious problem no matter how much it might interest theorists.
 
2012-09-20 02:33:42 PM
If the multiverse is real and all possibilities are represented, doesn't that mean there is a universe where there is no mulitverse?

*hits bong*
 
2012-09-20 02:41:33 PM
After I passed an IT certification test I did say a silent atheist prayer (I can still believe in the Doctor, right?), for the me in a parallel universe who failed. I'm not even sure it was necessary. I suspect there are universes that cheat horribly. Energy destroyed all the time (or at least shunted into other universes, since the Evil Goatee Universe even cheats at cheating). The speed of light is the second gear on a Peugeot hatchback. And Schrödinger's cat is just undead (that back and forth is for wuss universes).


/Keep your head up, brudda
 
2012-09-20 02:44:54 PM

HotWingConspiracy: If the multiverse is real and all possibilities are represented, doesn't that mean there is a universe where there is no mulitverse?

*hits bong*


Ones that collapse in on itself I suppose. The multiverse doesn't exist for those unfortunate realities. *hits bong* This good stuff man.  You get this from shiat form Neil deGrasse Tyson?
 
2012-09-20 02:46:17 PM

TheSilverKey: After I passed an IT certification test I did say a silent atheist prayer (I can still believe in the Doctor, right?), for the me in a parallel universe who failed. I'm not even sure it was necessary. I suspect there are universes that cheat horribly. Energy destroyed all the time (or at least shunted into other universes, since the Evil Goatee Universe even cheats at cheating). The speed of light is the second gear on a Peugeot hatchback. And Schrödinger's cat is just undead (that back and forth is for wuss universes).


/Keep your head up, brudda


I just altered the universe by your observing this post.
ABSOLUTE POWER!
 
2012-09-20 02:47:21 PM
I think that if I'm such a colossal f*** up, my counterpart must be a super genius.
 
2012-09-20 02:47:58 PM
www.heavyblogisheavy.com

This guy may know a thing or two about it...
 
2012-09-20 02:49:12 PM

JRoo: I think that if I'm such a colossal f*** up, my counterpart must be a super genius.


I don't know about that. I think your art is pretty humorous (in a good way).
 
2012-09-20 02:50:22 PM
...or would they have made it to shift manager at 7-11 by now?

oh, ha ha, Subby.

Did the alternate version of myself still sleep with your mom last night, huh?

//Doug says I'll make Assistant Shift Manager any day now. So there.
 
2012-09-20 02:53:06 PM
OF COURSE THERE IS MULTIVERSE
EARTH HAS 4 CORNER
SIMULTANEOUS 4-DAY
TIME CUBE
 
2012-09-20 02:56:00 PM
Love it. Hate it.

Love it. Hate it.

Hehe
 
2012-09-20 03:01:51 PM
I hate to break it to you guys, but "multiverse" doesn't mean that there are alternate realities.

It just means that our Universe will sleep with anything that moves and most things that don't.
 
2012-09-20 03:03:31 PM
As the Founder of the religion of Pluriversalism, this is relevant to my interests.

Pluriversalism posits that not only is there a multiverse where every possible permutation of physical law and every possibility exists, but that this brute force attack on the problem of why there is something rather than nothing means that every possible religion is true--somewhere in the Pluriverse.

If you are very good you may go to the Heaven of your choice. If not, you may go to Baptist Heaven or Muslim Heaven, which is to say, that universe where the Baptist God or Allah is the real deal.

In other words, you can worship your various divinities in secure knowledge that they exist, just not here.

Try not to make this universe Hell for other people (or yourself). Be patient, you will be living in your own personal choice of Heaven or Hell soon enough--every time you are reincarnated into another universe is a chance to find the one of your dreams.
 
2012-09-20 03:04:28 PM
Or if your counterpart was a chick, would you have sex with her?
 
2012-09-20 03:05:22 PM

MetaCarpal: I hate to break it to you guys, but "multiverse" doesn't mean that there are alternate realities.


Sure it does. In fact, depending on how big our universe is, there may be a copy of you out there posting on farl.com There's only so many probabilities before you have to cycle back through them.
 
2012-09-20 03:06:56 PM

DarnoKonrad: Sure it does. In fact, depending on how big our universe is, there may be a copy of you out there posting on farl.com There's only so many probabilities before you have to cycle back through them


Infinity is a very big number.

Also this means your mom is wrong: your not special! No one is!
 
2012-09-20 03:07:20 PM
content9.flixster.com 

Ready to leave this 'Verse.
 
2012-09-20 03:07:41 PM

brantgoose: As the Founder of the religion of Pluriversalism, this is relevant to my interests.

Pluriversalism posits that not only is there a multiverse where every possible permutation of physical law and every possibility exists, but that this brute force attack on the problem of why there is something rather than nothing means that every possible religion is true--somewhere in the Pluriverse.

If you are very good you may go to the Heaven of your choice. If not, you may go to Baptist Heaven or Muslim Heaven, which is to say, that universe where the Baptist God or Allah is the real deal.

In other words, you can worship your various divinities in secure knowledge that they exist, just not here.

Try not to make this universe Hell for other people (or yourself). Be patient, you will be living in your own personal choice of Heaven or Hell soon enough--every time you are reincarnated into another universe is a chance to find the one of your dreams.




Robert A. Heinlein beat you to that idea in Stranger in a Strange Land.
 
2012-09-20 03:15:28 PM

DarnoKonrad: HotWingConspiracy: If the multiverse is real and all possibilities are represented, doesn't that mean there is a universe where there is no mulitverse?

*hits bong*

Ones that collapse in on itself I suppose. The multiverse doesn't exist for those unfortunate realities. *hits bong* This good stuff man.  You get this from shiat form Neil deGrasse Tyson?


Oh that's that guys real name? I always just call him "The Grass". He has got the shiat.
 
2012-09-20 03:16:20 PM
Plurivalism raises an important question: how do you tell which Universe you are living in?

The short answer is that you can't.

The Universe of Creationists, where God is a perverse joker who makes fake fossils and hides them in sold rock to fool the evilutionists, is exactly like the Universe of Darwin, where the fossils are real and the God is a tinkerer with a strange affection for beetles. Both Universes look exactly alike because God wants you to believe, on Faith, not because reason and evidence tell you things are so. The Darwinian Universe, on the other hand, simply doesn't care whether you believe in it or not. A really good practical joke may look like no practical joke at all, and vice versa, if you are paranoid enough to live in a world which is a practical joke without any evidence as to who is playing what joke on whom.

In short, one man's Heaven is another man's Hell, and somewhere there is something for everybody. Be tolerant. Not so tolerant that you allow the schmucks to make a Hell of your current or future universe, but tolerant, because in the end, everybody is right and it doesn't really matter because we'll all die ten billion times before anybody proves anything to a religionist or a Conservative, Libertarian, or Republican.

That's the best I can do. The idea of an infinity of worlds in which everything that is possible, is, somewhere, is truly terrifying. It means that in some other worlds, every thing you do right here and now was, is and ever will be done wrong, and that in some of these worlds you are a monster of depravity and evil, no matter how hard you try to be good and do right here, there and everywhere.

It is depressing, but it makes perfect sense. The problem of evil is solved--rather than the best of all possible worlds, we live in a world. Not the best, not the worst, sort of mediocre in fact, like most of the rest of the possible worlds. God did not create evil, he doesn't prevent it (except in those worlds where he is real). In fact, gods are in the same situation as the rest of us sentient beings: they live in a world that they did not create, by rules they may not understand or discover. It's not good, but it could definitely be much, much worse. And nobody, not even God Almighty, is at fault. That's just the way the Pluriverse works. It has to be exhaustive of possibility because that is the only way it can be blameless and complete, eternal, infinite, and ever-lasting.

Try an Atheistical Buddhist Universe today. It might be a pleasant surprise. If not, you can always go back to the other universe or universes you think you're living in.

I sure hope I am not living in a world where the God of Karl Rove or Osama Bin Laden is King. But it probably wouldn't be much different from this world, only with more crazy conspiracies and junk.
 
2012-09-20 03:19:54 PM
Assuming that counterpart means a person in another universe that is more or less exactly like you, then there's probably no universe where you are smart enough to make less retarded choices.

Just like there's no other universe where my car is flying. If something is flying that resembles my car, well, it's just simply not my car.
 
2012-09-20 03:21:39 PM

TheManofPA: This is truly the darkest of thread timelines


His Shadow be upon you, Unbelieving Child of Light! Or something. I don't care. Neither does the universe. One of my firmer theological beliefs is that the Universe does not play favourites.

"All things come alike to all", as Scriptures put it. God sends his Sun and his rain upon the wicked and the righteous alike.

Some people, Job's Comforter types and Church Ladies, mostly, think that God punishes the wicked and rewards the good every day with disasters for the unrighteous and wealth and American flags for the righteous.

To paraphase Morbo the News Monster, "GOD DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY!"

God so loves the world that he letteth it alone to go its own way as best as can. To a given value of "God" and "world".
 
2012-09-20 03:27:12 PM
Could God microwave a multiverse so heavy, that even he couln't eat it?
 
2012-09-20 03:29:43 PM

vactech: Could God microwave a multiverse so heavy, that even he couln't eat it?


I'm pretty sure he tried and that is what we commonly refer to as "The Big Bang".
 
2012-09-20 03:38:46 PM

ghall3: vactech: Could God microwave a multiverse so heavy, that even he couln't eat it?

I'm pretty sure he tried and that is what we commonly refer to as "The Big Bang".


Yes. As I understand it, which is to say I don't, heat and density play into it.
 
2012-09-20 03:47:09 PM
One of the common misconceptions that seep into ideas like the multiverse from TV and movies and other works of fiction is the idea that there would be a counterpart of you in other universes, or at least most universes.

Chaos theory makes this improbable. The world we live in is to sensitive to initial conditions for a universe to produce another you except, of course, when it does.

Consider how little it takes to interupt coitus, and thus the act of conception. Not only does the existence of "you" imply that a certain egg was fertilized by a certain sperm, but that this happened at a certain time and place. If it doesn't you get a different you unless that one sperm wins the race to fertilize that one egg.

If there's two eggs in the race, you might end up with a twin or replaced by a twin that you never knew was possible, let alone a threat.

In short, one second of distraction, and boom! There you isn't!

You don't have to kill your grandfather in order to creat a Grandfather Paradox. It would be sufficient for a dog to bark (like in the Philip K. Dick story which was the basis, loosely, for the movie The Adjustment Bureau). A dog barks and a child is conceived or not conceived. It is one person or another person altogether. It's not just you with a Van Dyke, or you with a different set of toys. It is somebody else altogether.

Ray Bradbury even bows to this literary convention in "A Sound of Thunder". In the short story, a mistep which kills a tiny moth causes world history to change from that moment onwards and the wrong man is elected President. It's Obama instead of Adolph Hitler. Or something.

In "reality", to a given degree of identity with Reality, even that small mistep might mean the human race does not evolve rather than spells certain English words differently and elects a dictator instead of a liberal democrat.

History is not repeatable--yes, on a very tiny scale, some events might get washed out by the large of law numbers, while close to the moment of diversion or digression, the changes might be small and unnoticeable, but in the fulness of time, such minute changes in the initial conditions of a chaotic system is likely to produce massive differences rather than superficial changes. It's not a quesiton of boy gets girl versus boy loses girl, its a question of boy gets girl or Farknarb gets Weedlesnooter.

History is, I firmly believe, chaos. Like the weather, if not because of the weather. The origin of the Chaos Theory involves weather prediction software--a scientist made a minute mistake and rather than correct it he ran the software simulation of climate with the error in, thinking it was too small to produce any significant error in the results. But the program was iterative, like the simple equation that produces the Mandelbrot set, the famous Gingerbread Man.

The result was a totally different world, so to speak. It may be true that a minute change in a few atoms of air or the amount of energy available to the system doesn't make much difference on, say, the total energy of the system. But it matters whether a hurricane hits the Leeward Islands or Washington, DC. It is world historical, not trivial, whether a major hurricane forms or does not form--and all for a slight difference in initial conditiosn, eight or more places below the zero.

In short, fiction plays by fictional and convenient rules. It makes for good stories. History, as Aristotle observes in The Poetics (Part One: Tragedy), does not have to make sense or be plausible because it is just shiat that happens.

It's a pity the other half of The Poetics, on Comedy, was almost entirely lost. But it would be a different world if it hadn't been. There would have been no Name of the Rose by Umberto Eco, and thus no movie starring Shawn Connery, or Shane, or Sheila, or whoever it was.

Every little thing can become a major problem if it is left to iterate. That's chaos in a nutshell.

If there is a God, he really does care if little sparrows fall. Because the whole shebang could be farked up by the loss of an ant let alone a sparrow or a human being or a planet or a few billion galaxies. The Universe is totally scalar, Dude! Like in that stupid movie, The Butterfly Effect, things just don't work out for the better all that easily. Actually, it's a fairly good treatment of the philosophical issues of time travel and multiple worlds. At least there's not much of a Happy Ending to spoil the premise for no conceivable reason other than the laws of fiction requiring one.
 
2012-09-20 03:53:15 PM
www.futurama-madhouse.net
 
2012-09-20 04:05:04 PM
www.alexkung1.com
 
2012-09-20 04:15:17 PM
Firstly, I don't like the term multiverse. I accept it's here to stay, but the term universe is encompassing enough to include multiple instances of our and/or other physical realities and realms.

That said, there is just so much we don't understand. It's what I love about science. Not what it shows us to be true, but the questions it allows us to ask.
The unknowns the knowns show us of... as Rumsfeld might phrase it :P

In every blackhole there may be another universe. It might be ours! Just changed a little. It might be another one all together. It may be the necklace that holds together the pearls of each reality (hey! no laughing, i hear you snickering)

Life itself could be an interdimensional phenomenon. Time itself isn't a dimension but a perception we hold as we shift from one static universe/reality to the next. Everything from a thought to a chemical reaction simply being the next in a long string of infinite universes/realities going down the line. I like this idea and believe goldfish actually experience everything in reverse. From this point of view, there really could be turtles all the way down, along with everything else!

The further we look out, the harder we must look within. Are the answers out there? Or do they lie within us, dependent not upon exploration and observation, but understanding and philosophy.

Well folks, my brain hurts, and that means it's time to say good bye!
Hope to catch you again on the next episode of, "None of This shiat Makes Any Sense!"
Up next, another new episode of "Damn universe!? You crazy!"

And remember: The more you know, the more you'll know you don't know.

upload.wikimedia.org
 
F42
2012-09-20 04:22:52 PM
subby: Is there really a multiverse?


No:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copenhagen_interpretation
 
F42
2012-09-20 04:24:53 PM

MurphyMurphy: In every blackhole there may be another universe.


Of course not. A "black hole" is just a star dense enough that photons fall back to it instead of escaping. It's not the magical "it can do anything" gimmick that sci-fi makes it out to be.
 
2012-09-20 04:26:21 PM

DarnoKonrad: I'm not going to pay much attention to string theory until they actually come up with some falsifiable claims. That's a serious problem no matter how much it might interest theorists.


What about thread theory? I see falsifiable claims in threads every day.
 
2012-09-20 04:26:59 PM

brantgoose: One of the common misconceptions that seep into ideas like the multiverse from TV and movies and other works of fiction is the idea that there would be a counterpart of you in other universes, or at least most universes.



Well there would, because the concept is there are infinite universes.  Infinite means every possible way things can exist in the universe, does in some universe out there.
 
HOWEVER, when it comes to science fiction... yeah, they skip over the part about knowing which other universe to go to where "you" also exist in a similar enough manner.
 
If I jumped to another universe somehow, there's a near infinite-to-1 chance that I don't exist there.  Hell, there's probably a near infinite-to-1 chance that my body would not be able to survive even a millisecond there.
 
2012-09-20 04:29:56 PM

ghall3: vactech: Could God microwave a multiverse so heavy, that even he couln't eat it?

I'm pretty sure he tried and that is what we commonly refer to as "The Big Bang".


So it really is dangerous to use the microwave without reading the instruction manual?
 
2012-09-20 04:33:24 PM

downstairs: brantgoose: One of the common misconceptions that seep into ideas like the multiverse from TV and movies and other works of fiction is the idea that there would be a counterpart of you in other universes, or at least most universes.


Well there would, because the concept is there are infinite universes.  Infinite means every possible way things can exist in the universe, does in some universe out there.
 
HOWEVER, when it comes to science fiction... yeah, they skip over the part about knowing which other universe to go to where "you" also exist in a similar enough manner.
 
If I jumped to another universe somehow, there's a near infinite-to-1 chance that I don't exist there.  Hell, there's probably a near infinite-to-1 chance that my body would not be able to survive even a millisecond there.


zipmeme.com
 
2012-09-20 04:38:24 PM

F42: MurphyMurphy: In every blackhole there may be another universe.

Of course not. A "black hole" is just a star dense enough that photons fall back to it instead of escaping. It's not the magical "it can do anything" gimmick that sci-fi makes it out to be.


Possibly.

Of course, some theoretical physicists might tell you to shut your face.

See, science is about questioning the unknown and exploring the possible. Not just making observations and conducting experiments... all of it is for not if you don't first have the glimmer of insight, intelligence and imagination to draft the hypothesis.

There are many supposed facts out there and there is no telling how many of them will get steamrolled by men much smarter than you or I one day.

You keep on *knowing* things and saying "of course not". Ignorant closed-mined people often *know* a lot. They also have no vision.

It's much much more fun and scientifically productive to say maybe to everything, let anything be possible and let science guide the ship from truth to truth.
 
2012-09-20 04:38:51 PM
"Ours is but one universe in an infinite multiverse". Yeah, but what if that multiverse is but one in an infinite number of multiverses? All contained in an atom on the head of Homer Simpson?
 
2012-09-20 04:42:17 PM

miss diminutive: sno man: I have a goatee, does that make this the evil universe?

No, your evil universe counterpart would have a double goatee.

/mine would have quadruple tinfoil pigtails


kinda like this for the goat?
www3.pictures.zimbio.com 
or this...
www3.pictures.zimbio.com

as for the pigtails...My google foo is weak today, but 'quadruple pigtails' with safe search off had some interesting, although completely unrelated and so we are all clear NSFW, pictures...
 
2012-09-20 04:46:48 PM
My problem with Multiverse theory is my problem with string theory: People talk about it like it's real and been proven (I'm looking at YOU, Brian greene) just because the math works out.

The math eventually worked out for epicycles, too, but it didn't mean the geocentric view of the universe was *correct*.
/Yes yes okay, technically we can use a geocentric view of the universe and make the math work out like it is correc,t and *technically* it is a valid reference frame, but you understand what I mean.
 
2012-09-20 04:53:56 PM

brantgoose: One of the common misconceptions that seep into ideas like the multiverse from TV and movies and other works of fiction is the idea that there would be a counterpart of you in other universes, or at least most universes.

Chaos theory makes this improbable.


Problem is, in an infinite number of universes, even improbable comes up an infinite number of times. The probability has to be zero chance of repetition for an infinite number of universes to not have another iteration of you, and how likely is that if the probability that you exist is (obviously unless you're some seriously wigged out philosopher) not zero? 

Admittedly, this is mainly wishful thinking, inasmuch as I'd like to think there's a version of me out there happily banging away at any one of a number of Hollywood Starlets, Victoria's Secret Models, hot college friends, and my neighbor a few years ago. A man can dream.....
 
2012-09-20 05:01:20 PM
Every decision we make is meaningless, because somewhere, on a parallel earth, we've already made the opposite choice. We're nothing. Less than nothing.
 
2012-09-20 05:05:05 PM

BattleFrenchie28: Every decision we make is meaningless, because somewhere, on a parallel earth, we've already made the opposite choice. We're nothing. Less than nothing.


Cheer up, Owlman.
 
2012-09-20 05:08:22 PM

Subdue their bellies: BattleFrenchie28: Every decision we make is meaningless, because somewhere, on a parallel earth, we've already made the opposite choice. We're nothing. Less than nothing.

Cheer up, Owlman.


It doesn't matter.

/explosions
 
2012-09-20 05:11:39 PM
images3.wikia.nocookie.net
/file photo of a parallel universe
 
2012-09-20 05:22:39 PM

Omis: Or if your counterpart was a chick, would you have sex with her?


And could you marry them in California?
 
2012-09-20 05:29:17 PM

DarnoKonrad: MetaCarpal: I hate to break it to you guys, but "multiverse" doesn't mean that there are alternate realities.

Sure it does. In fact, depending on how big our universe is, there may be a copy of you out there posting on farl.com There's only so many probabilities before you have to cycle back through them.


You missed the punchline, there, Chief.
 
2012-09-20 05:30:47 PM
Multiverse theory segues well with string theory, which is why some people like it.

I don't think that makes it real though.
 
2012-09-20 05:56:20 PM
Yes because Marcelo Gleiser, blogger extraordinaire knows the secrets of the universe.
 
2012-09-20 06:14:30 PM
Already been evidence of pre-Big Bang radiation that looks an awful lot like another universe collided with this one possibly creating the Big Bang itself. Also theories that this is how other universes are created. That outside our universe if we were able to go to such a place exists other 'bubbles' where the other universes exist. When the bubbles collide you get things such as The big Bang. Makes sense to me.
 
2012-09-20 06:30:42 PM

brantgoose: TheManofPA: This is truly the darkest of thread timelines

His Shadow be upon you, Unbelieving Child of Light! Or something. I don't care. Neither does the universe. One of my firmer theological beliefs is that the Universe does not play favourites.

"All things come alike to all", as Scriptures put it. God sends his Sun and his rain upon the wicked and the righteous alike.

Some people, Job's Comforter types and Church Ladies, mostly, think that God punishes the wicked and rewards the good every day with disasters for the unrighteous and wealth and American flags for the righteous.

To paraphase Morbo the News Monster, "GOD DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY!"

God so loves the world that he letteth it alone to go its own way as best as can. To a given value of "God" and "world".


The Morbo line slayed me.
 
2012-09-20 06:38:56 PM

ParagonComplex: Already been evidence of pre-Big Bang radiation that looks an awful lot like another universe collided with this one possibly creating the Big Bang itself. Also theories that this is how other universes are created. That outside our universe if we were able to go to such a place exists other 'bubbles' where the other universes exist. When the bubbles collide you get things such as The big Bang. Makes sense to me.


Well then let's hope there's no female Asian gods controlling some of those other universes otherwise we're screwed.
 
2012-09-20 06:49:44 PM
kestas.kuliukas.com

Leeloo Dallas... mul-ti-verse.

/In at least one of these 'verses, Milla exists looking like this and is unfathomably in love with me.
 
2012-09-20 07:28:53 PM
.........sliders...........
 
2012-09-20 07:36:19 PM

sno man: I have a goatee, does that make this the evil universe?

/'cause that would explain a few things...


This may be the dark timeline; is your goatee made of paper?
 
2012-09-20 07:44:21 PM

sno man: miss diminutive: sno man: I have a goatee, does that make this the evil universe?

No, your evil universe counterpart would have a double goatee.

/mine would have quadruple tinfoil pigtails

kinda like this for the goat?
[www3.pictures.zimbio.com image 594x394] 
or this...
[www3.pictures.zimbio.com image 594x396]

as for the pigtails...My google foo is weak today, but 'quadruple pigtails' with safe search off had some interesting, although completely unrelated and so we are all clear NSFW, pictures...


t2.gstatic.com

t1.gstatic.com

You must be using the alternate universe google.
 
2012-09-20 07:45:58 PM
From what I understand about the whole multiverse theory (next to none), different multiverses would have completely different laws of physics. E would not = MC2. Gravity might not exist, or it would have completely different values.

So my counterpart is surfing the sands of Pluto upside-down.
 
2012-09-20 07:51:59 PM

DarnoKonrad: HotWingConspiracy: If the multiverse is real and all possibilities are represented, doesn't that mean there is a universe where there is no mulitverse?

*hits bong*

Ones that collapse in on itself I suppose. The multiverse doesn't exist for those unfortunate realities. *hits bong* This good stuff man.  You get this from shiat form Neil deGrasse Tyson?


Oh wow.

You just blew my mind.

i.qkme.me
 
2012-09-20 08:09:57 PM
People.

There IS a difference between parallel universes
and a multiverse.

Do not get them mixed up.

A multiverse is an area which is made of of multiple universes. (like stars in a galaxy, except WAY bigger)
A parallel universe is one of a probabilistic co-existing series of universes in tune with our own (like reflections in a mirror)

You COULD have a multiverse made up of universes,
each universe having an infinite series of of itself.

The subby is joking about a parallel universe.
The article is discussing a multiverse.

/clarity
 
2012-09-20 08:18:26 PM

miss diminutive: sno man: miss diminutive: sno man: I have a goatee, does that make this the evil universe?

No, your evil universe counterpart would have a double goatee.

/mine would have quadruple tinfoil pigtails

kinda like this for the goat?
[www3.pictures.zimbio.com image 594x394] 
or this...
[www3.pictures.zimbio.com image 594x396]

as for the pigtails...My google foo is weak today, but 'quadruple pigtails' with safe search off had some interesting, although completely unrelated and so we are all clear NSFW, pictures...

[t2.gstatic.com image 189x267]

[t1.gstatic.com image 188x268]

You must be using the alternate universe google.


lol
Indeed.

/been meaning to ask, seems as handy a place as any, does your universe include parts of Mel Nooobody's old stomping ground? Otherwise I think I saw your evil twin incognito mostly not having lunch with a couple of girlfriend/co-worker types one day a few months ago... (eip at this end)
 
2012-09-20 08:22:23 PM
BTW... having a multiverse would make the most sense for the red-shift acceleration.

Potentially,
We're either on a energy wave cusp expanding with what seems to be greater speed,
but is actually just a series of waves...us following others...and others following us.

Or we may be an analog to a film on a bubble expanding until "pop"

I think it's more like a spa...with a variety of greater energy sources,
all interweaving with each other in some flow...each wave/bubble a universe in itself.

Of course, this is pure speculation on my part...I have no proof, unless you've got a tool to observe it...
 
2012-09-20 08:30:19 PM
4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-09-20 08:32:56 PM
There is a multiverse.. how else do you explain premonitions? Overlapping occurs every so often. That's what I was told by the other me.
 
2012-09-20 08:51:23 PM
www.channelavi.com

Probably knows the answer, but isn't saying.

By the ravenous teeth that have smitten
Through the kisses that blossom and bud,
By the lips intertwisted and bitten
Till the foam has a savour of blood,
By the pulse as it rises and falters,
By the hands as they slacken and strain,
I adjure thee, respond from thine altars,
Our Lady of Pain.
 
2012-09-20 09:44:49 PM
The Multiverse, eh? Sounds like a convenient dumping ground for the unexplainable (replacing God).
 
2012-09-20 10:18:49 PM
Well, I was a little kid making 8mm films in the California Central Valley in the 60's...
 
2012-09-20 11:32:44 PM
www.alicia-logic.com

www.alicia-logic.com

/hot like Orion's belt
 
2012-09-20 11:39:04 PM

nmemkha: The Multiverse, eh? Sounds like a convenient dumping ground for the unexplainable (replacing God).


Hey, even Lot had to start out with, "Wow, sleeping with my daughters was not a good idea at all. I'd better write that one down..."

The notion of god has always been a sort of placeholder for what we haven't known or felt that we couldn't know. Well, that and a personification of our neuroses. Even the Christians have nothing on the crazy the Romans dreamt up, whooooo!
 
2012-09-20 11:47:05 PM

rogue49: BTW... having a multiverse would make the most sense for the red-shift acceleration.


The most sense is that one day we will discover the easy to understand, non-accelerating reason for the red-shift and laugh heartily at how stupid and esoteric all our theories were.

/You may laugh, but look at how obvious jupiter and neptune's rings should have been, but weren't
 
2012-09-20 11:53:46 PM

MusicMakeMyHeadPound: nmemkha: The Multiverse, eh? Sounds like a convenient dumping ground for the unexplainable (replacing God).

Hey, even Lot had to start out with, "Wow, sleeping with my daughters was not a good idea at all. I'd better write that one down..."

The notion of god has always been a sort of placeholder for what we haven't known or felt that we couldn't know. Well, that and a personification of our neuroses. Even the Christians have nothing on the crazy the Romans dreamt up, whooooo!


Well its a chicken and egg problem. The case of man creating God is strong (we are imaginative little chimps), but it is also a concept the developed independently around the world in nearly very culture. To deny man has a "spiritual component" is to deny history and the reality of today's world (the majority of humanity is still religious).

What I find interesting is the fall of poly-theism and "knowable" God. The God of all the major world religions (Abrahamic and Dramatic) is both a singular unknowable creator God.
 
2012-09-21 12:38:47 AM
This is clearly the darkest timeline.
i.imgur.com
 
2012-09-21 12:50:09 AM
In all the mulitverses where some variant of you exists you still aren't getting laid tonight.

randomhoohaas.flyingomelette.com
 
2012-09-21 12:50:29 AM
nmemkha
What I find interesting is the fall of poly-theism and "knowable" God. The God of all the major world religions (Abrahamic and Dramatic) is both a singular unknowable creator God.

Meh, I think it's wholly predictable. Those religions didn't start out that way (remember: Jesus is about 1,940 years overdue on his return and God should know that rabbits don't chew cud). And it's no secret that science rejects claims that are unfalsifiable as being unworthy of examination.

Clergy aren't stupid, they're just stuck between having invested an awful lot of their life and passion on some pretty bold claims versus needing to pay their bills and getting through life with some dignity.

Of course they're going to declare God "unknowable". Suck on that, you eggheads.

The math on multiverses seems to work out, so it's worthy of speculation and investigation. Science takes this with a grain of salt, however, since (as far as my armchair spectatorship is aware) it's not more than a hypothesis.

That being said, I still get goosebumps reading Max Tegmark's paper from 2000 concerning multiverses and the probably of parallel universes within that.

/SPACE ENDS HERE - MIND THE GAP
//also a bookend to an excellent album by the band Leiahdorus
 
2012-09-21 12:54:41 AM
Correction: the paper was 2003, not 2000.
 
2012-09-21 01:09:24 AM

sno man: I have a goatee, does that make this the evil universe?

/'cause that would explain a few things...


Hey, I've got one of those!

csb\
I used to be a "shift manager" at a 7-11 (11pm-7am). I guess I was the shift manager, because I was the only one there. I regret that if I were smarter/more observant I could have used that title to have some business cards printed, added it to my resume, gotten a raise and generally puffed up the whole experience. Well, heck I guess I could still do that.
I had to quit because it was supposed to be part time, but within two weeks I was getting my full 40 hours and the girlfriend deprivation as well as sleep adjustment really messed with my social life. Thankfully I didn't get robbed or have to deal with tweakers.
 
2012-09-21 02:04:48 AM

MusicMakeMyHeadPound: nmemkha
What I find interesting is the fall of poly-theism and "knowable" God. The God of all the major world religions (Abrahamic and Dramatic) is both a singular unknowable creator God.

Meh, I think it's wholly predictable. Those religions didn't start out that way (remember: Jesus is about 1,940 years overdue on his return and God should know that rabbits don't chew cud). And it's no secret that science rejects claims that are unfalsifiable as being unworthy of examination.

Clergy aren't stupid, they're just stuck between having invested an awful lot of their life and passion on some pretty bold claims versus needing to pay their bills and getting through life with some dignity.

Of course they're going to declare God "unknowable". Suck on that, you eggheads.

The math on multiverses seems to work out, so it's worthy of speculation and investigation. Science takes this with a grain of salt, however, since (as far as my armchair spectatorship is aware) it's not more than a hypothesis.

That being said, I still get goosebumps reading Max Tegmark's paper from 2000 concerning multiverses and the probably of parallel universes within that.

/SPACE ENDS HERE - MIND THE GAP
//also a bookend to an excellent album by the band Leiahdorus


And I find little excitement in the prospect. Its doesn't matter since it we are fundamentally stuck in our own doomed universe.
 
2012-09-21 05:53:24 AM

F42: MurphyMurphy: In every blackhole there may be another universe.

Of course not. A "black hole" is just a star dense enough that photons fall back to it instead of escaping. It's not the magical "it can do anything" gimmick that sci-fi makes it out to be.


since when did common sense dictate physics?

On topic, if there are an infinite number of multiverses where "anything and everything" is happening then in one of them, someone makes a machine to destroy all of them. As this has not happened then not "anything and everything" is happening, it is limited.
 
2012-09-21 06:05:54 AM

Branbot: Yes because Marcelo Gleiser, blogger extraordinaire knows the secrets of the universes.


Fixed that for you. No charge.
 
2012-09-21 06:28:22 AM

SnarfVader: [i212.photobucket.com image 277x345]

Seriously love this stuff but I have a hard time wrapping my head around any of it.


What if the brain only has finite storage though, worse yet what if when it reaches capacity it deletes the oldest bit! You could be walking down the street and suddenly, upon hearing "Mozart was both in 1756" you are unable to walk!
 
2012-09-21 07:16:17 AM
Makes sense. Nobody ever said the Matrix wasn't a VM. It's obviously capable of running multiple instances of the simulation.
 
2012-09-21 08:48:17 AM

Trocadero: [images3.wikia.nocookie.net image 762x570]
/file photo of a parallel universe


In futurama there's only one parallel universe which is the cowboy universe. Futurama's creators explained that what those boxes contain are in fact perpendicular universes.
 
2012-09-21 11:05:56 AM
Some multiverses are more likely than others. The so-called Type 1 multiverse is very likely. That is just that space keeps on going on beyond the 13.7 billion light years* represented by the farthest any signal could have come since the end of inflation (or since the Big Bang if you don't accept inflation). "Universe" in this usage is more like Hubble volume.

*Technically that is larger now because space has expanded as that light traveled to us.

In many versions of inflation suggest that this multiverse is really huge possibly so huge that if you go far enough that you will find another "Earth" where I am about to post on fark.com. (Remember there are only so many ways you can put together a universe. If the universe/type-1 multiverse goes is large enough, it will repeat. Of course "large enough" farking huge.)

Another type of multiverse is the volumes where inflation ends. If inflation is correct (and that can be tested) then the implication is that countless such "universes." Many suggest that these island universes in the sea of inflation could have different physical constants though there is no real evidence one way or the other for that.
 
2012-09-21 01:08:43 PM

nmemkha: And I find little excitement in the prospect. Its doesn't matter since it we are fundamentally stuck in our own doomed universe.


Well, I'll stay excited. You go ahead and "meh" to yourself there in the corner.
 
2012-09-21 03:23:20 PM

brantgoose: Plurivalism raises an important question: how do you tell which Universe you are living in?

The short answer is that you can't.



Of course I can. I live in this one.
 
2012-09-21 03:47:54 PM
FTA:

"We are culturally programmed to find final explanations, to craft narratives with a beginning, middle and end. "

Cultural programming is not destiny. You don't have to lose sleep over unanswerable questions.
 
2012-09-21 05:09:10 PM
Why do so many assume there is an infinite amount of matter/energy in the omniverse
 
2012-09-21 05:13:40 PM

diaphoresis: There is a multiverse.. how else do you explain premonitions? Overlapping occurs every so often. That's what I was told by the other me.


Or that the concept of time is an illusion and sometimes your mind gets a glimpse of what really is. We're essetionally in a dream created by our lack of perspective.
 
2012-09-21 08:18:51 PM

ski9600: csb\
I used to be a "shift manager" at a 7-11 (11pm-7am). I guess I was the shift manager, because I was the only one there. I regret that if I were smarter/more observant I could have used that title to have some business cards printed, added it to my resume, gotten a raise and generally puffed up the whole experience. Well, heck I guess I could still do that.
I had to quit because it was supposed to be part time, but within two weeks I was getting my full 40 hours and the girlfriend deprivation as well as sleep adjustment really messed with my social life. Thankfully I didn't get robbed or have to deal with tweakers.



I had the same job for a year or two, but it was at Open Pantry, a local C-store chain that used to exist once upon a time. Getting robbed wasn't so bad; you never feel more alive than you do when there's a gun pointed at you.
 
2012-09-21 11:39:26 PM

MusicMakeMyHeadPound: nmemkha: And I find little excitement in the prospect. Its doesn't matter since it we are fundamentally stuck in our own doomed universe.

Well, I'll stay excited. You go ahead and "meh" to yourself there in the corner.


Keep your math porn. I got Asian midget donkey couplings to watch over here in the corner. Also, you're going to need to wash these walls ...
 
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