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(Topless Robot)   The seven most useless Star Trek characters. Missing from the list: the entire cast of Voyager   (toplessrobot.com) divider line 257
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2012-09-20 06:15:58 PM

The English Major: Old_Chief_Scott: whidbey: The English Major: Old_Chief_Scott: steverockson: List fails without Guinan.

This. Holy crap what was that character all about anyway?

YOU SHUT UP ABOUT GUINAN

No kidding. Incredibly subtle, funny, comforting. Never mind the funny hat.

Start a fan club. You'll probably have two members in no time.

Target practice with Worf.

Guinan and prune juice.

Guinan and Hugh of Borg


PPPHHHHHHHLLLLLLLLLLLLLLBBB!!!
 
2012-09-20 06:18:53 PM

Mugato: Strolpol: The finale is, likewise, pretty awful (LOL, let's ignore our previously established rules against time shenanigans to use those to get Voyager home!)

I think that was sort of the point, they established early on that Janeway hated the thought of time travel paradoxes but over the years she became such a psycho biatch about getting everyone home that she didn't care. How do the time cops figure into all that? Who knows. That was another cool episode, where they go back to 1996 and meet Sarah Silverman. I was actually at Griffith Park when they shot that. Didn't get to meet Sarah though.


That one had the paradox of what became of the time cop, though.
Sarah Silverman was cute, but what became of the time cop bothered me.
He was just a dude doing his job, going too far because he thought he was
doing it for the sake of billions of lives.

He was the equivalent of the dude who goes back to kill Hitler.

Not explored at all, though, because status quo. He's always ridiculed in that arc, and punished, and finally the ending version of himself claims that the marooned version of himself is irrelevant.

But in his way, he did change things, because the Horrible Catastrophe
He Was Going To Cause In The Loop was averted. But do lives in a timeline simply cease
to be just because you move to a new timeline?
 
2012-09-20 06:20:19 PM

PlatinumDragon: Ron D. Moore should reboot Enterprise.

/wha? article? errr... agreed with some, disagreed with others, completely agree with #1


So....

Q will be an Angel that was guiding Archer to fullfill God's plan to have nothing significant happen?
 
2012-09-20 06:23:33 PM

The English Major: imgod2u: Detinwolf: thismomentinblackhistory: I would have put Q on there, as much as I liked him.

Some people hate Q as a convenient plot device, but I thought John DeLance was a great actor and loved seeing his interactions with Picard.

Q was not a convenient plot device; Q/Picard was the whole point of the show.

The payoff.


Ya no, I'm not talking about anything outside of the series. Q and Picard were the central on-going theme of TNG as a whole.
 
2012-09-20 06:25:02 PM

whidbey: NeoCortex42: chewielouie:
Voyager sure was consistent. It was mostly mediocre, but when it went bad we got:
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and
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Other than the Warp 9.5 episode, the worst has got to be when the crew finds out they're actually the copy of the original ship from the Demon class planet.
I mean, shiat, who wrote that? Laziest conceit ever.


That was actually supposed to be a season-long story arc. Wou;d've been interesting, too. Ship slowly falls apart, then you realize that it's the clone ship.
 
2012-09-20 06:45:13 PM

russlar: That was actually supposed to be a season-long story arc. Wou;d've been interesting, too. Ship slowly falls apart, then you realize that it's the clone ship.


Would have pissed off the audience to no end, telling them they'd just wasted a year watching nothing.
 
2012-09-20 06:47:13 PM

th0th: Pulaski had a raw deal for one reason: Gates McFadden got pregnant and wanted to leave the show. They needed someone to fill the void while her contract was re-negotiated, and I thought she provided a good foil to Data and Picard while bringing something new - a bit of maturity - to the role. In a few of the Trek novels her character got a bit more backstory, but overall I don't feel it's right to castigate what was essentially a guest cast member - same with Guinan.


Except the fact that Gates McFadden didn't get pregnant until the 5th season of TNG.

She left because apparently Maurice Hurley wanted some and she didn't want to give it up, so she was *fired*. When Hurley left after the end of season 2 Rick Berman asked for her to come back, especially since Muldaur was very unhappy with her experience on the show and didn't want to come back.
 
2012-09-20 06:48:48 PM

Handsome B. Wonderful: russlar: That was actually supposed to be a season-long story arc. Wou;d've been interesting, too. Ship slowly falls apart, then you realize that it's the clone ship.

Would have pissed off the audience to no end, telling them they'd just wasted a year watching nothing.


The "Year of Hell" two-parter was supposed to be a full season, too.
 
2012-09-20 06:52:31 PM

Detinwolf: thismomentinblackhistory: I would have put Q on there, as much as I liked him.

Some people hate Q as a convenient plot device, but I thought John DeLance was a great actor and loved seeing his interactions with Picard.


I liked how Picard always got him to go away by tricking him into saying Yuek
 
2012-09-20 06:56:40 PM

ExperianScaresCthulhu: That one had the paradox of what became of the time cop, though.
Sarah Silverman was cute, but what became of the time cop bothered me.
He was just a dude doing his job, going too far because he thought he was
doing it for the sake of billions of lives.


That's why the whole time cop thing didn't make any sense. They came in and saved V'ger after the fact but they did nothing for earlier time cop or what the yuppie douchebag did to fark up the time continuum by exploiting 29th century technology.

The biggest favor time cop guy could have done was tell Paris to stay in 1996. He was already a 20th century-phile and Sarah Silverman's character was a lot more agreeable than Belanna (sp).
 
2012-09-20 07:07:16 PM
I liked Pulaski...

I wish Barclay was in the list... he sucked
 
2012-09-20 07:09:05 PM

russlar: Handsome B. Wonderful: russlar: That was actually supposed to be a season-long story arc. Wou;d've been interesting, too. Ship slowly falls apart, then you realize that it's the clone ship.

Would have pissed off the audience to no end, telling them they'd just wasted a year watching nothing.

The "Year of Hell" two-parter was supposed to be a full season, too.


It wouldn't have fit in with the already established "reset" at the end of each episode where the ship would be back in pristine condition for the next episode.
 
2012-09-20 07:59:17 PM
"with whom she had worked with on an episode of the original Star Trek"

Farking prepositions, how do they work?
 
2012-09-20 08:34:41 PM
But Diana Muldaur was no DeForest Kelley -- with whom she had worked with on an episode of the original Star Trek

Bzzzt. She was in two episodes.
 
2012-09-20 08:37:04 PM

d-fens99: Deanna Troi? Something about her appeals to me.

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[4.bp.blogspot.com image 320x244]


Is it her feelings?
 
2012-09-20 08:37:36 PM

rorypk: I like Enterprise, maybe my favorite ST series. I think the theme song was great, if a little hokey. I think Roddenberry would've loved it. I'm actually kinda surprised it isn't more popular. The Xindi arc was great, even if it didn't mesh perfectly with canon. If there was a season with Shran replacing Reed and UPN hadn't gone tits up, it would've gotten to seven seasons too. I think it would be tied with DS9 if that were the case. Call me crazy if you want. Bakula can't be the worst thing about a series with Reed and Merryweather. Hoshi was horrible too, but the character concept had a ton of potential.

The entirety of the Voyager cast blew, so I don't get why half of Enterprise's crew sucking makes it worse somehow.


I'd say it's tied for top with DS9 for me. I dug in to it on Netflix a while back because it was the only one I hadn't seen any of (I've seen most or all of the episodes in the other series), fully expected to hate it, and finished one episode after another thinking "why doesn't this suck yet? It's supposed to suck."

It certainly had the fewest unwatchably-bad episodes, IMO.Even the next two most-consistently-good series, DS9 and TNG, managed to have 3-4 awful episodes (plus plenty of others that aren't worth a damn, but at least weren't "oh god turn it off" bad) in their best seasons. I think ENT's worst season had about two that were that bad.

The much-revered TOS is worse than all three of those in that regard (seriously, how many episodes are only watchable because they venture in to so-bad-it's-good territory?), and Voyager... well, it's Voyager. Its best season has maybe 5 decent episodes, and there are only a couple in the whole series that are actually good.

ENT does have the worst theme song and probably the worst last episode, though. Compensates by having possibly my favorite Trek character of all time (Shran).
 
2012-09-20 08:38:03 PM
My first thought on seeing subby's headline was "You the entire case of Enterprise". I actually laughed out loud when I saw that was #1.

How did Harry and wes not make this list?
 
2012-09-20 08:39:17 PM

fallingcow: Compensates by having possibly my favorite Trek character of all time (Shran).


This I concur with.
 
2012-09-20 08:40:00 PM
Cythraul

I've always been kinda neutral to Voyager and never understood the hate for that series. But then, I only watched the first season

Holy gods... You watched S1 and can't figure out why people hate it?
this may help you
 
2012-09-20 08:40:29 PM

OnlyM3: wes not make this list?


you can hardly call him useless when he saved the ship from destruction in episodes 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, ..... 50, 51, 52, and 104
 
2012-09-20 08:41:56 PM
trek sux! Long Live Wars!
 
2012-09-20 08:43:33 PM

chuggernaught: trek sux! Long Live Wars!


go sit in the corner.
 
2012-09-20 08:44:18 PM
Sybarite

I actually rather like Ethan Phillips as an actor. It's unfortunate that he played one of my least favorite characters in the history of Star Trek.


Only thing worse than Nelix...
www.thespacewriter.com
Someone shut her the F... Up!
 
2012-09-20 08:50:22 PM

Mugato: PsyLord: Janeway was promoted to Admiral and was talking to lowly Captain Picard in Star Trek: Nemesis..

You're Starfleet Command. Would you give her the keys to another starship or put her behind a desk? Besides, Picard turned down the Admiral position in the first season.


Rumor is he made a promise to someone about never leaving the bridge of the Enterprise.....


To me, the most on target person on that list is Worf from Insurrection. Now, I think Insurrection is on the underratted side (certainly much, much better than The Final Frontier) but Worf's inclusion was sloppy at best. But it makes sense, the Worf from TNG was a whipping boy, he mainly grew as a character on DS9. And yet, he shows up in Insurrection, in the middle of a war the Enterprise is apparently not involved in, recently widowed, and he goes right back to minor league, comic relief status. But, if you think about it, the TNG movies were really the Picard & Data Show, with the others mostly filler.

Currently rewatching DS9 on Netflix, I'd have to say the first season of DS9 is stronger than the first season of TNG, thoiugh the show really got good when they got the Defiant. Oh, and Kira was crazy hot back then, her wierd Bajor uniform didn't look very practical, but it sure highlighted her rightous bum.
 
2012-09-20 08:55:05 PM

OnlyM3: My first thought on seeing subby's headline was "You the entire case of Enterprise". I actually laughed out loud when I saw that was #1.

How did Harry and wes not make this list?


Wes was far from useless. His problem was that he was the opposite of useless and saved the ship too often for a kid.
 
2012-09-20 08:59:31 PM
oryx

List is incomplete without Tasha Yar. She was always advising aggressive action, but Picard would never listen to her.

Then you must really hate Worf
 
2012-09-20 09:03:09 PM

Your_Huckleberry: To me, the most on target person on that list is Worf from Insurrection. Now, I think Insurrection is on the underratted side (certainly much, much better than The Final Frontier)


Yeah but in Insurrection, the good guys were on the wrong side. They were siding with a bunch of squatters who were hogging up all the life giving radiation from everyone else. Picard and crew were siding with a collection of assholes.
 
2012-09-20 09:03:56 PM

OnlyM3: oryx

List is incomplete without Tasha Yar. She was always advising aggressive action, but Picard would never listen to her.
Then you must really hate Worf


No wonder he left for DS9 - they actually appreciated him there.
 
2012-09-20 09:06:34 PM
Doctor was the saving grace in Voyager. If it weren't for him, Voyager would not be watchable.

There, I said it
 
2012-09-20 09:08:41 PM

cman: Doctor was the saving grace in Voyager. If it weren't for him, Voyager would not be watchable.

There, I said it


It's not like you're in the minority on that opinion.
 
2012-09-20 09:09:03 PM
whidbey
>>> YOU SHUT UP ABOUT GUINAN

No kidding. Incredibly subtle, funny,


"Because you're a droid and I'm a 'noid".

Yeah. Hilarious stuff there. Can you say "Magic Negro"? What an insulting character.
ST - The original series, we got Uhura a strong, brilliant, competent and accomplished woman (who happens to be black).

ST - TNG, we got Guinan "We keep our brown refugee people down serving the white folk in the bar where they belong."
 
2012-09-20 09:10:12 PM

rickycal78: cman: Doctor was the saving grace in Voyager. If it weren't for him, Voyager would not be watchable.

There, I said it

It's not like you're in the minority on that opinion.


Indeed.
 
2012-09-20 09:11:11 PM

OnlyM3: whidbey
>>> YOU SHUT UP ABOUT GUINAN

No kidding. Incredibly subtle, funny,

"Because you're a droid and I'm a 'noid".

Yeah. Hilarious stuff there. Can you say "Magic Negro"? What an insulting character.
ST - The original series, we got Uhura a strong, brilliant, competent and accomplished woman living prop in the background that never really had anything to say other than "Hailing Frequences open, Captain" (who happens to be black).

"


FTFReality.
 
2012-09-20 09:13:09 PM

rickycal78: cman: Doctor was the saving grace in Voyager. If it weren't for him, Voyager would not be watchable.

There, I said it

It's not like you're in the minority on that opinion.


I'm just glad that Voyager didn't launch a few years later. Could you imagine being stranded in space for seven years with holographic Andy Dick?
 
2012-09-20 09:13:53 PM

Dinobot: I liked Pulaski...

I wish Barclay was in the list... he sucked



Agreed. Nothing turns me off more than a sniveling, spineless, neurotic man
 
2012-09-20 09:14:25 PM

The All-Powerful Atheismo: fallingcow: Compensates by having possibly my favorite Trek character of all time (Shran).

This I concur with.


I also agree, pinkskins.

Though Garak is a close second.
 
2012-09-20 09:15:30 PM
I saw the costumes at the Star Trek exhibit. The woman who played Kes was so petite.

And whoa to the Dabo girl costume.
 
2012-09-20 09:16:19 PM
Spot was pretty useless. His only important role was when he went Rambo in that episode where space rats overrun the Enterprise-D and eat everybody's clothes.
 
2012-09-20 09:21:18 PM

fusillade762: The All-Powerful Atheismo: fallingcow: Compensates by having possibly my favorite Trek character of all time (Shran).

This I concur with.

I also agree, pinkskins.

Though Garak is a close second.


Oh HELL no

Garak was a good secondary character. His mysterious past along with the help he gave made him one of the greatest reoccurring characters in star trek history
 
2012-09-20 09:24:04 PM

OnlyM3: Cythraul

I've always been kinda neutral to Voyager and never understood the hate for that series. But then, I only watched the first season
Holy gods... You watched S1 and can't figure out why people hate it?
this may help you


a website dedicated to the worst episodes?
it's.. it's beautiful.
 
2012-09-20 09:32:15 PM

Mugato: Your_Huckleberry: To me, the most on target person on that list is Worf from Insurrection. Now, I think Insurrection is on the underratted side (certainly much, much better than The Final Frontier)

Yeah but in Insurrection, the good guys were on the wrong side. They were siding with a bunch of squatters who were hogging up all the life giving radiation from everyone else. Picard and crew were siding with a collection of assholes.


Very true, probably one of the main reasons it was hard to get behind Picard's big, heroic stance. It would have been a more gusty story if Riker and the Enterprise returned at the end with news that the Federation upheld the decision to move those people. One of DS9's strengths was the willingness to 'expose' the darker side of the galaxy, where Picard and Janeway rubbed self righteous Federation morals and values in everyone's face, Sisko got his hands dirty. Insurrection opens with Enterprise and its intact command crew on their way to an archeological dig while Sisko and the others were fighting and killing on the other side of the quadrant,, Worf's appearance doesn't even really bring the "realities" of war to the nice and clean Enterprise. There are comments from Picard and Riker and Troi about how surprised they are about the Federation being involved with the 'baddies' in this.

It would have been a stronger story if the pious Enterprise crew had to admit thier high and mighty Federation had to resort to dirty work when times got tough. But, the movies really are not as deep as the series, not enough time to develop things.
 
2012-09-20 09:34:40 PM
Useless except has window dressing

flyvapnet.com
 
2012-09-20 09:37:57 PM

Dinobot: I liked Pulaski...

I wish Barclay was in the list... he sucked


LOL Wut? You couldn't relate to him? He's doing what any normal male would do if they had access to a visual and tactile realistic solid hologram sex machine.
 
2012-09-20 09:41:48 PM
Enterprise was a good show

www.picanese.com 

www.celebs101.com
 
2012-09-20 09:52:45 PM

Your_Huckleberry: It would have been a stronger story if the pious Enterprise crew had to admit thier high and mighty Federation had to resort to dirty work when times got tough. But, the movies really are not as deep as the series, not enough time to develop things.


Yeah, the whole story was "Hey I'm Picard and I'm awesome and I'm better than you morally". I don't think the audience was in the mood for that.
 
2012-09-20 10:14:05 PM
www.embracingthenerd.com

This guy gave up the Enterprise on a regular basis ...



www.startrek.com

This guy would not.


Picard was useless.
 
2012-09-20 10:14:37 PM
Janeway was twice the captain Picard was. She certainly had bigger balls. Danger comes along and she's full speed ahead, arm the torpedoes. Picard is everybody to the ready room, let's have a meeting. Then another meeting, and then what does everybody think we should do followed by magic science saves the ship and end credits.
 
2012-09-20 10:20:58 PM

Spanky McStupid: [www.embracingthenerd.com image 246x300]

This guy gave up the Enterprise on a regular basis ...



[www.startrek.com image 320x240]

This guy would not.


Picard was useless.


Kirk detonated his Enterprise. Picard simply made the mistake of letting Troi drive.
 
2012-09-20 10:23:20 PM

NeoCortex42: Spanky McStupid: [www.embracingthenerd.com image 246x300]

This guy gave up the Enterprise on a regular basis ...



[www.startrek.com image 320x240]

This guy would not.


Picard was useless.

Kirk detonated his Enterprise. Picard simply made the mistake of letting Troi drive.


Kirk detonating his Enterprise took out his enemies, what exactly did letting Troi drive accomplish, other than destroying another Enterprise?
 
2012-09-20 10:27:10 PM

rickycal78: NeoCortex42: Spanky McStupid: [www.embracingthenerd.com image 246x300]

This guy gave up the Enterprise on a regular basis ...



[www.startrek.com image 320x240]

This guy would not.


Picard was useless.

Kirk detonated his Enterprise. Picard simply made the mistake of letting Troi drive.

Kirk detonating his Enterprise took out his enemies, what exactly did letting Troi drive accomplish, other than destroying another Enterprise?


Yeah, well...Kirk went out like a punk.

Picard was willing to detonate his Enterprise to kill the Borg. He managed to kill the bad guy AND save the ship.
 
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