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2012-09-20 12:33:44 PM  

tallguywithglasseson: Liking guns = masculine, disliking = feminine?


Disliking guns is one thing. If that is your take, don't buy a gun. However, lamenting the fact that some folks like guns is on another level. If you can't handle other folks enjoying an certain pastime and try to push your values off on someone that clearly does not feel the same way, prepare for some flak.
 
2012-09-20 12:37:31 PM  

tallguywithglasseson: You use MW, I use dictionary.com...


Merriam-Webster has been around longer and is a bit more professional. Not that Dictionary.com should be dismissed out of hand, but in the (rare) disagreement between the two, I'd go with M-W.

tallguywithglasseson: So you suppose that the intended meaning? Liking guns = masculine, disliking = feminine? And people wonder why there are so many dick jokes in these threads...


I think that the intention is to imply effeminate while giving Mr. Limbaugh the wiggle room to deny that that's what he meant if it's expedient to do so.
 
2012-09-20 12:41:44 PM  
www.thoseshirts.com
 
2012-09-20 12:43:16 PM  
From Mark Leyner's Et Tu, Babe:

The Triggerman is a bar/pistol range that we opened for Team Leyner staffers so that, at the end of a long day, there'd be a place "on-campus" where they could have a few drinks and shoot firearms -- a place for them to blow off steam. I like to come down to The Triggerman after a late night meeting to unwind and maybe chat with some of the lower-echelon employees with whom I don't normally interact.

I'd just emptied a magazine of 125-grain jacketed hollowpoints form my six-and-a-half-inch .44 Auto Mag, when I noticed Joe on the bar stool next to mine.

[...]

"Joe, check this out," I said, handing him my first target, which had just arrived at the bar. I'd managed to achieve, at a range of 50 yards, a four-inch seven-round group on the black of the target, with most of the shots less than two inches apart. "Not bad, huh?"

[...]

I ordered an anisette with three spent shells. The shells, still muzzle-hot, warm the anisette for a nice nightcap.

I felt good.
 
2012-09-20 12:47:59 PM  

Frank N Stein: "Customers will have to order a drink with their identification card and once the card is accepted, and flagged, they cannot be checked back into the range that day."

Nothing to see here. The only problem people have with this are busy-body soccer moms and effete men.


Ok, now that I see they've implemented quite reasonable safety precautions, I don't have a problem with this.
 
2012-09-20 12:54:11 PM  

thurstonxhowell: Were I inclined to mix alcohol and firearms, that's exactly what I would do.


So, because you can't be trusted to handle firearms in a responsible manner no one else can?

Projection much?
 
2012-09-20 12:57:42 PM  

Click Click D'oh: thurstonxhowell: Were I inclined to mix alcohol and firearms, that's exactly what I would do.

So, because you can't be trusted to handle firearms in a responsible manner no one else can?

Projection much?


Not mixing alcohol and firearms is pretty much rule #1 or #2 of using firearms in a responsible manner.
 
2012-09-20 12:57:45 PM  

inner ted: you should join sometime, you might just have a blast.


iseewhatyoudidthere.jpg
 
2012-09-20 01:00:02 PM  

HeadLever: However, lamenting the fact that some folks like guns is on another level. If you can't handle other folks enjoying an certain pastime and try to push your values off on someone that clearly does not feel the same way, prepare for some flak.


Concerning yourself with what others do in their free time is annoying, but is it always considered feminine?
I'd think it's some sort of knee-jerk insult, but I've not heard busybodies concerned about Mosques or what have you described as "effete".

stevarooni: I think that the intention is to imply effeminate while giving Mr. Limbaugh the wiggle room to deny that that's what he meant if it's expedient to do so.


My take as well, both with Mr. Limbaugh and those who followed suit.
 
2012-09-20 01:02:37 PM  

redmid17: Not mixing alcohol and firearms is pretty much rule #1 or #2 of using firearms in a responsible manner.


It's actually #9
 
2012-09-20 01:07:13 PM  

stevarooni: thurstonxhowell: As long as they're flagging IDs, I don't mind this, but don't pretend there's no attraction to rolling over to the club after having a few, shooting for a while, and then hitting the bar once the buzz starts to wear off.

That's my point, though, this club will be better about that, because while one could already go to an outside bar and get drunk and fake it to get into a shooting range, if one goes the convenient route ("Booze is right here!"), the club won't let them shoot.


What would be the point in even going then? I don't live anywhere near this place and even I already know they wouldn't let me shoot if I did that. Do you think people are gonna show up at the range, have a few to drink, and be surprised when they get turned away?
 
2012-09-20 01:08:37 PM  

Click Click D'oh: thurstonxhowell: Were I inclined to mix alcohol and firearms, that's exactly what I would do.

So, because you can't be trusted to handle firearms in a responsible manner no one else can?

Projection much?


This what at the very beginning of my post:

thurstonxhowell: As long as they're flagging IDs, I don't mind this


Illiterate much?
 
2012-09-20 01:15:22 PM  

thurstonxhowell: This what at the very beginning of my post:


Because the first part of your post negates the part where you admit that you don't trust yourself not to handle loaded firearms after drinking, and then imply that other people would behave the same?
 
2012-09-20 01:16:04 PM  
Is this a gun porn thread? I just got myself a six-shooter.
 
2012-09-20 01:22:21 PM  

thurstonxhowell: What would be the point in even going then? I don't live anywhere near this place and even I already know they wouldn't let me shoot if I did that. Do you think people are gonna show up at the range, have a few to drink, and be surprised when they get turned away?


"Wow, that was fun! Yer new pistol is the cat's meow, Cletus. Worked up a thirst, myself. Wanna go next door and sip some Zimas?"
 
2012-09-20 01:23:13 PM  

hundreddollarman: Is this a gun porn thread? I just got myself a six-shooter.


The word's in the title, HundredDollarMan. It's very much a gun thread! What'd you get? :-) (at work, so some images might be blocked)
 
2012-09-20 01:26:20 PM  

inner ted: you should join sometime, you might just have a blast.


My urban street cred would be shot if photos of me drinking Busch while driving an old Bronco through a mudhole ever surfaced on the Internet. I think the authorities may even confiscate my BMW.
 
2012-09-20 01:28:43 PM  

tallguywithglasseson: Concerning yourself with what others do in their free time is annoying, but is it always considered feminine?


When one concerns themselves with what others do in their free time, the others get annoyed.
When others get annoyed, they respond with insults on gender association.
When others respond with insults on gender association, the gun grabbers comment on penis size.
When gun grabbers comment on others penis size, others pull out the flame thrower.
When the flame thrower gets pulled out, the alts come out from under their rocks.
When the alts come out of from under their rocks, we find ourselves typical Fark thread.

/I would say 'don't find yourself in a typical Fark Thread', but someone might point out my hypocrisy
//and I might get the banhammer
 
2012-09-20 01:35:33 PM  

Click Click D'oh: redmid17: Not mixing alcohol and firearms is pretty much rule #1 or #2 of using firearms in a responsible manner.

It's actually #9


NRA Gun Safety Rules
 
2012-09-20 01:35:39 PM  

tricycleracer: My urban street cred would be shot if photos of me drinking Busch while driving an old Bronco through a mudhole ever surfaced on the Internet. I think the authorities may even confiscate my BMW.


So, don't take a camera.
 
2012-09-20 01:39:33 PM  

tricycleracer: inner ted: you should join sometime, you might just have a blast.

My urban street cred would be shot if photos of me drinking Busch while driving an old Bronco through a mudhole ever surfaced on the Internet. I think the authorities may even confiscate my BMW.


iseewhatyouseethatiseeyoudidthere.jpg

/just wear a trucker hat - that way you'll fit in with the 'necks, but to all your urban hipster pals, you'll just look wonderfully ironic
 
2012-09-20 01:39:49 PM  

stevarooni: hundreddollarman: Is this a gun porn thread? I just got myself a six-shooter.

The word's in the title, HundredDollarMan. It's very much a gun thread! What'd you get? :-) (at work, so some images might be blocked)


Got myself a Ruger New Model Blackhawk in .357 Magnum. Bought it used for a good deal. I've always wanted to get a revolver, a single-action cowboy gun in particular. Now my Beretta PX4 finally has a roommate in the safe! I'm already contemplating my next acquisition: another semiauto (perhaps a 1911) or another revolver? Oh, some pics.

i45.tinypic.com

i48.tinypic.com
 
2012-09-20 01:50:24 PM  

hundreddollarman: Got myself a Ruger New Model Blackhawk in .357 Magnum. Bought it used for a good deal. I've always wanted to get a revolver, a single-action cowboy gun in particular.


Beautiful gun, the Blackhawk! And Ruger makes guns that simply work, and last a long time. Congratulations!

I've got a Chiappa Rhino (wiki) in .357 Magnum. The recoil is a mite worse because the revolver's lighter than the Blackhawk, but it seriously cuts down on muzzle flip. There are some rough edges in the design, but it is a lot of fun.

hundreddollarman: Now my Beretta PX4 finally has a roommate in the safe! I'm already contemplating my next acquisition: another semiauto (perhaps a 1911) or another revolver?


Truly addictive! The worst part, for me, has been caliber bloat. :-P Every cartridge is built for a particular purpose, but there gets to be a point where there are just too many different cartridges to keep a reasonable quantity on-hand. Not so much a problem with handguns (sure, revolver vs. pistol, but most pistols are available in 9mm, .40 cal, or .45 ACP).
 
2012-09-20 01:53:41 PM  

tallguywithglasseson: Frank N Stein: effete men

This is a word Rush Limbaugh popularized for right wingers a while back, as used to insult Obama. Haven't seen it on these forums in a while.
It's great because it sounds like "effeminate" but doesn't actually mean that.

Wonder which meaning you intended here. Decadent? Tired? Sterile?


i184.photobucket.com
 
2012-09-20 01:57:46 PM  

Molavian: [i184.photobucket.com image 468x700]


lmao. Yeah I think that's it, very Limbaugh-ian.
 
2012-09-20 02:02:53 PM  
But I can still drive home after, right?
 
2012-09-20 02:43:35 PM  

hundreddollarman: stevarooni: hundreddollarman: Is this a gun porn thread? I just got myself a six-shooter.

The word's in the title, HundredDollarMan. It's very much a gun thread! What'd you get? :-) (at work, so some images might be blocked)

Got myself a Ruger New Model Blackhawk in .357 Magnum. Bought it used for a good deal. I've always wanted to get a revolver, a single-action cowboy gun in particular. Now my Beretta PX4 finally has a roommate in the safe! I'm already contemplating my next acquisition: another semiauto (perhaps a 1911) or another revolver? Oh, some pics.

[i45.tinypic.com image 640x428]

[i48.tinypic.com image 640x428]


Try the STI Infinity in .38Super. The Dan Wesson Valor is a good choice, as well.
 
2012-09-20 02:50:18 PM  

Click Click D'oh: thurstonxhowell: This what at the very beginning of my post:

Because the first part of your post negates the part where you admit that you don't trust yourself not to handle loaded firearms after drinking, and then imply that other people would behave the same?


Saying it might happen and that I can even kind of see the attraction to it is not the same thing as saying I think it should be illegal nor is it the same thing as saying I wouldn't trust myself not to do it. Drunk driving happens all the time and I can definitely see the attraction to driving home after having a few. That doesn't mean I drink and drive, it doesn't mean I don't trust myself not to drink and drive, and it doesn't mean that I think bars shouldn't exist.

My point is: If there are people who are inclined to drink then shoot, I don't see how the existence of this place makes it any harder for them to do so than a regular range. I'm not saying it makes it any easier, either. I just don't see how it makes it any harder. There are activities that I like to mix with alcohol, of which shooting is not one, and putting a bar next to them would not make it any less likely that I show up drunk no. No, not even if you won't let me go back in after I have a few.

Where did you learn how to read, annoying prick school?
 
2012-09-20 02:51:00 PM  

Frank N Stein: "Customers will have to order a drink with their identification card and once the card is accepted, and flagged, they cannot be checked back into the range that day."

Nothing to see here. The only problem people have with this are busy-body soccer moms and effete men.


As Long as they keep solidly to that policy i am fine with it, Time will tell if they do or do not. if the fail to do so it will not end well.
 
2012-09-20 02:59:58 PM  

thurstonxhowell: There are activities that I like to mix with alcohol, of which shooting is not one, and putting a bar next to them would not make it any less likely that I show up drunk no. No, not even if you won't let me go back in after I have a few.


If you're in the habit of shoot -> go and get a drink -> shoot again, this bar/range combo has the potential to dissuade those who lazily choose to go to the nearby bar from shooting immediately after. This is not a huge factor, especially for alcoholics who'll just go outside to drink, but it doesn't encourage drunk shooting with its procedures.
 
2012-09-20 03:00:50 PM  

grimlock1972: As Long as they keep solidly to that policy i am fine with it, Time will tell if they do or do not. if the fail to do so it will not end well.


If they don't, you can be sure that the BATFE and Georgia booze council will both have their eyes on 'em.
 
2012-09-20 03:07:13 PM  

thurstonxhowell: Saying it might happen and that I can even kind of see the attraction to it is not the same thing as saying I think it should be illegal nor is it the same thing as saying I wouldn't trust myself not to do it.


Sit back, relax and have a beer... just make sure you don't have a gun in the room... you know, temptation...
 
2012-09-20 03:43:30 PM  

RickN99: Russ1642: Anybody know where this is? "Local" news stations haven't figured out the internet.

Powder Springs, GA. 40-ish miles northeast of Atlanta, up I-85/I-985.


Or West-Northwest of Atlanta about 15 miles outside of the perimeter, whatever
 
2012-09-20 04:47:32 PM  
stevarooni:Truly addictive! The worst part, for me, has been caliber bloat. :-P Every cartridge is built for a particular purpose, but there gets to be a point where there are just too many different cartridges to keep a reasonable quantity on-hand. Not so much a problem with handguns (sure, revolver vs. pistol, but most pistols are available in 9mm, .40 cal, or .45 ACP).

I feel you. I decided early on that I would try to keep only two calibers per handgun type - 9mm and .45 ACP for semiautos, .357 and .44 (Magnum loads, not specials) for revolvers. But I tried out some .380-caliber pocket pistols and I'm rethinking this line of thought. I also have to think about big-bore revolvers in either .454 Casull or .500 S&W, lol. They're like potato chips, you can't have just one.
 
2012-09-20 04:53:46 PM  

hundreddollarman: They're like potato chips, you can't have just one.


Heh. Recently, I was contemplating dropping everything but handgun/carbine combinations. I kind of like Taurus' revolving-rifle carbines. But it'd be great to have just a couple of calibers to cover everything.
 
2012-09-20 06:04:11 PM  
The range my father is a member of has a huge facilities building, banquet hall, pool hall, showers, lounge with a large bar and bartenders, food, and below all this is their indoor range complete with a dumbwaiter system for food and drinks. It is the oddest feeling drinking a pitcber of beer, eating a sandwich, and shooting between bites. They've had two accidents, both shot their own foot/leg, both were cowboy shooting, both were drunk.
 
2012-09-20 06:25:59 PM  

tallguywithglasseson: I don't see a big deal in grabbing a beer after shooting.
Sounds like they have a pretty good system to make sure people don't go back into the range after drinking, too. NIMBY mom sounds like she'd complain if it were just a gun range, or just a bar, or just about anything else.


All I know is much would it suck to be stopped for DUI and have a gun in your car...legally transported or not.
 
2012-09-20 06:32:45 PM  

Doink_Boink: The range my father is a member of has a huge facilities building, banquet hall, pool hall, showers, lounge with a large bar and bartenders, food, and below all this is their indoor range complete with a dumbwaiter system for food and drinks. It is the oddest feeling drinking a pitcber of beer, eating a sandwich, and shooting between bites. They've had two accidents, both shot their own foot/leg, both were cowboy shooting, both were drunk.


Huh...the range I'm a member of has guns, guns, guns...and places to shoot them. That's all I need, I ain't havin' a friggin' wedding reception. Oh and there's a brewery about a mile from that...f*ck the gun-range "bar"...I'm not paying $5 for a bottle of Miller Light. The brewery crafts their own beers and they are GOOOD.
 
2012-09-20 06:34:39 PM  

tallguywithglasseson: Frank N Stein: effete men

This is a word Rush Limbaugh popularized for right wingers a while back, as used to insult Obama. Haven't seen it on these forums in a while.
It's great because it sounds like "effeminate" but doesn't actually mean that.

Wonder which meaning you intended here. Decadent? Tired? Sterile?


When I hear "effete" I think of the first definitions that come up on google--

1)(of a person) Affected, overrefined, and ineffectual: "effete trendies from art college".
2)No longer capable of effective action.

stevarooni: Heh. Recently, I was contemplating dropping everything but handgun/carbine combinations. I kind of like Taurus' revolving-rifle carbines. But it'd be great to have just a couple of calibers to cover everything.


I just started about a year ago, but I'm kind of the opposite, I try to get guns that can shoot as many calibers as they can. I've got a Witness match elite in .45, plan to get either a 9mm or .40 conversion slide for it (was gonna get a 9, but might start shooting ispa or uspsa, so maybe .40--or maybe both). Gonna get a 10mm conversion when I start reloading. Mmmmmm... 10mm... Anyway, one gun that can shoot 5 or 6 calibers is pretty damn cool, IMO. Just got a Ar lower, pan to get a bull barrel 5.56 upper, and then maybe 5.45 or 7.62X39. Might get the 7.62 to go with the AK. 

Unfortunately, those are pretty much the only really versatile guns I'm aware of. I think some Glocks can shoot like 2 calibers with a barrel change.
 
2012-09-20 06:58:42 PM  

Pete_T_Mann: I just started about a year ago, but I'm kind of the opposite, I try to get guns that can shoot as many calibers as they can.


ARs are great for handling multiple calibers, true. I'm window shopping for a reliable .22lr upper, for some seriously cheap shooting. I've seen the .50 Beowulf, but that's just insane! "When you absolutely, positively, have to penetrate both sides of a car."

Pistol-wise...well, so much of pistol design seems to be about compression that it'd be hard to have that kind of flexibility. Magazines, as well, are designed to eke out the most cartridges possible for a certain caliber, so there'd be some trade-offs there. It'd be better than revolvers, though, which would take much more to swap out barrels.
 
2012-09-20 08:01:26 PM  

stevarooni: ARs are great for handling multiple calibers, true. I'm window shopping for a reliable .22lr upper, for some seriously cheap shooting. I've seen the .50 Beowulf, but that's just insane! "When you absolutely, positively, have to penetrate both sides of a car."

Pistol-wise...well, so much of pistol design seems to be about compression that it'd be hard to have that kind of flexibility. Magazines, as well, are designed to eke out the most cartridges possible for a certain caliber, so there'd be some trade-offs there. It'd be better than revolvers, though, which would take much more to swap out barrels.


Yeah, Beowulf and Socom are pretty damn cool, but you need to reload unless you've got a ton of cash. Last I looked socom was like 3.50 or so a round, and that was supposed to be a deal.

I don't think its that hard to do the multi caliber thing with a pistol. Like I said, the Eaa witness line can shoot anything from .22 to 10mm with an 20 second "upper" swap on their large frame guns (and change out mags, of course). But they aren't seen as particularly revolutionary guns, they're a slightly modified cz-75 clone. I think one thing is gun markers aren't too inclined to do it. Why give someone the option to buy a new 250$ upper when you can sell them a whole new gun for more than twice that? I guess there isnt much demand for it either, currently. But I'm trying to get the word out so that more people will want something like that...
 
2012-09-20 08:48:54 PM  
Of course the huge advantage of the slide assembly being a "gun part" while the gun is...well heck, you can buy an AR-15 upper receiver on Amazon.com!

As for gun manufacturers...well, that's a tough one. Sure, "being cheap" is one reason, but I would counter that a gun manufacturer that could basically sell you the (lower) receiver and effectively a "subscription" to gun parts. And when the cost of entry is lower for each subsequent upper receiver, more people are going to be happy to buy the new upper, especially if they enjoy the lower receiver. On the other hand, a ton of the cost must surely be in the slide assembly, so a buyer probably wouldn't be saving that much (or the seller would be revealing just how much the markup is).

Then again, though, while I like the AR's modular design, I probably wouldn't go far from the base 5.56x45mm NATO.
 
2012-09-20 09:40:48 PM  

KidneyStone: RickN99: Russ1642: Anybody know where this is? "Local" news stations haven't figured out the internet.

Powder Springs, GA. 40-ish miles northeast of Atlanta, up I-85/I-985.

Or West-Northwest of Atlanta about 15 miles outside of the perimeter, whatever


Yes, while some people spell the former like "Powder Springs," it's actually spelled "Gainesville" ;)
 
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