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(Daily Mail)   Stephen King announces sequel to 'The Shining', perhaps starring a Lamp Monster (w/video of author reading excerpt & the release date of book)   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 65
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2012-09-20 02:22:19 AM
I've read the first chapter and it's pretty clear it's a sequel to King's novel, not the Jack Nicholson movie, which are entirely different stories for the most part. I wonder how that will translate to the inevitable movie adaptation.
 
2012-09-20 02:25:04 AM
 
2012-09-20 02:27:06 AM
I'm more than okay with this.
 
2012-09-20 02:32:48 AM
The new book will focus on Danny, now in adulthood, who works as a hospice worker and helps his patients die painlessly while also fighting a group of psychic vampires.



NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNooooooo
thank you.

Gerald's Game was the nail in the coffin.



Somebody please resurrect Kubrick.
 
2012-09-20 02:43:33 AM

eyehate: Gerald's Game was the nail in the coffin.


Gerald's Game was published TWENTY YEARS AGO.

King has had his ups and downs, but that period of his writing is buried. And you know, sometimes, dead is better.
 
2012-09-20 02:48:05 AM
I hope the sequel tells us how the relationship between these two went:
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They make such a cute couple
 
2012-09-20 02:50:10 AM
This argument always comes up with people around my age, who grew up reading King and somehow stopped 15 or 20 years ago, and decided that he sucks now, but haven't bothered to actually read anything he's written in a decade.

Duma Key is pretty great. Under the Dome is silly and already as hilariously dated as Firestarter, but still a fun 1000 page read and very much King. Wind Through the Keyhole is one of the better Dark Tower stories. Full Dark, No Stars was just that. Haven't read 11-23-63 yet but hear it's pretty entertaining in a Dead Zone kinda way.

Sure he was horrible both before and after his accident. But that was in the 1990s, the man got better.
 
2012-09-20 02:53:11 AM

Confabulat: King has had his ups and downs, but that period of his writing is buried. And you know, sometimes, dead is better.


Agreed.

Dead is better.

He should stop.

Psychic vampires sound horrible.
 
2012-09-20 02:55:34 AM

eyehate: He should stop


Why? He loves to write. No one is forcing you to read him. Personally, I'm pretty glad he's still around to entertain me. Sorry you can't appreciate that.
 
2012-09-20 03:06:19 AM

Confabulat: 11-23-63


I really enjoyed 11-23-63.
 
2012-09-20 03:10:59 AM

Bathia_Mapes: Confabulat: 11-23-63

I really enjoyed 11-23-63.


I've got it, just haven't gotten to it yet. Like a lot of Gen X types, I am not too excited to hear another damn ex-hippie go on and on about the sixties again though
 
2012-09-20 03:16:50 AM

Confabulat: Haven't read 11-23-63 yet but hear it's pretty entertaining in a Dead Zone kinda way.


I've read it. Thoroughly enjoyed it. Well worth the time and effort.
 
2012-09-20 03:27:25 AM

Confabulat: eyehate: He should stop

Why? He loves to write. No one is forcing you to read him. Personally, I'm pretty glad he's still around to entertain me. Sorry you can't appreciate that.


Very true.

I should learn not to express my opinion when it differs from yours.

Checkmate. You got me, amigo.

Hopefully we get a sequel to Cell. Awesome book!!
 
2012-09-20 03:30:17 AM

eyehate: Hopefully we get a sequel to Cell. Awesome book!!


Didn't read that one. Heard it wasn't very good.
 
2012-09-20 03:31:51 AM

Confabulat: eyehate: Hopefully we get a sequel to Cell. Awesome book!!

Didn't read that one. Heard it wasn't very good.


Are you kidding? It was fantastic! The antagonist informed his allies not to attack the protagonists until they reached their destination. All the tension drained mid-book. Could not ask for a better read.
 
2012-09-20 03:33:41 AM

eyehate: Confabulat: eyehate: Hopefully we get a sequel to Cell. Awesome book!!

Didn't read that one. Heard it wasn't very good.

Are you kidding? It was fantastic! The antagonist informed his allies not to attack the protagonists until they reached their destination. All the tension drained mid-book. Could not ask for a better read.


I'm guessing you're being sarcastic, but I'm not. Are you seriously telling me that Stephen King should stop writing in 2012 because of a lousy book he published a decade ago?
 
2012-09-20 03:41:02 AM

Confabulat: I'm guessing you're being sarcastic, but I'm not. Are you seriously telling me that Stephen King should stop writing in 2012 because of a lousy book he published a decade ago?


I don't condemn the man for one lousy book.

He has just gotten very lazy since. Skeleton Crew, The Shining, Creepshow, Cujo - wonderful stuff.

Have not read anything inspired in a very long time.

Turning The Shining into a vampire horror movie, it just sounds like bad form. Yet another bad book idea.

But I didn't mean to offend your reading sensibilities. Just expressing my opinion.
 
2012-09-20 03:43:28 AM

Confabulat: Are you seriously telling me that Stephen King should stop writing in 2012


And.

Where exactly did I say this?

I quipped on the dead is better quote - but I don't recall saying he should stop writing.
 
2012-09-20 03:45:32 AM

eyehate: Confabulat: I'm guessing you're being sarcastic, but I'm not. Are you seriously telling me that Stephen King should stop writing in 2012 because of a lousy book he published a decade ago?

I don't condemn the man for one lousy book.

He has just gotten very lazy since. Skeleton Crew, The Shining, Creepshow, Cujo - wonderful stuff.

Have not read anything inspired in a very long time.

Turning The Shining into a vampire horror movie, it just sounds like bad form. Yet another bad book idea.

But I didn't mean to offend your reading sensibilities. Just expressing my opinion.


Wind Through the Keyhole is far better than Cujo. That book sucks donkey balls. Creepshow was a screenplay and hardly counts. Everything's Eventual has as many good stories as Skeleton Crew.

I tend to think people who whine about King's writing these days are just unable to notice they got old and their imagination thingee got broke. It's no so much about how King changed.
 
2012-09-20 03:46:23 AM

eyehate: Where exactly did I say this?

He should stop.

 
2012-09-20 03:53:49 AM

Confabulat: eyehate: Where exactly did I say this?

He should stop.


Damn. I did say that. Hehe.

Well. He should.

I guess my imagination thingee got broke.

Robert McCammon will always be the better horror writer of his generation.

You can have your King.

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But I still love The Stanley.
 
2012-09-20 04:28:55 AM
FTFA: King famously disliked the big screen version of The Shining, believing too much of the supernatural element was cut from his book.

It's true that King's book was more of a ghost story while Kubrick's film was more of a psychological thriller.

Maybe that's one of the reasons I thought the movie was better: ghosts don't scare me; crazy people do.
 
2012-09-20 06:50:37 AM

Confabulat: Bathia_Mapes: Confabulat: 11-23-63

I really enjoyed 11-23-63.

I've got it, just haven't gotten to it yet. Like a lot of Gen X types, I am not too excited to hear another damn ex-hippie go on and on about the sixties again though


I've said this before on here, but 11/22/63 is the first Stephen King book I ever contemplated giving up on. It's just so lazy. Everyone of his tired stock characters is in there. He/the protagonist of course is a middle-aged English professor who gets to bang a hot young blonde while loosening up all the small-town squares. About every four pages he reminds us that he's not racist, but Texas is. At some point I began to think that maybe Stephen King, having grown up in Maine and been a multimillionaire since his twenties, has probably never been in a room with more than two black people at the same time, is really self-conscious about that. And that maybe he caught his wife schlicking to Matthew McConnaughey or something.
The ending sucks and he didn't seem to put much time into crafting it. Then, in a rambling fake apology in the epilogue for calling Texas so racist, he tells us, as evidence he's right, that "[Texas] is a place that has bars with signs that say "No Guns Allowed." I'm not sure Stephen gets out much these days, and when he does, I don't think he mingles with the working/middle class. I've seen signs like that from here (Florida) to Montana.

Full Dark, No Stars was incredible though. Really enjoyed it.
 
2012-09-20 06:53:14 AM

eraser8: FTFA: King famously disliked the big screen version of The Shining, believing too much of the supernatural element was cut from his book.

It's true that King's book was more of a ghost story while Kubrick's film was more of a psychological thriller.

Maybe that's one of the reasons I thought the movie was better: ghosts don't scare me; crazy people do.


That's the part I agree with Kubrick on. If you're a kid, ghosts are scary, but the idea of your dad losing it and trying to hack you to death with an ax is terrifying.

I know The Shining was written as King was recovering from drug addiction, and thus, therapeutic, but there's no shame in just admitting the film version was better and leaving it at that. The story really doesn't need a sequel.
 
2012-09-20 06:58:26 AM

stoli n coke: If you're a kid, ghosts are scary, but the idea of your dad losing it and trying to hack you to death with an ax is terrifying.


Por que no los dos?

The book has both. The movie focuses on the one.
 
2012-09-20 07:10:30 AM

The Muthaship: stoli n coke: If you're a kid, ghosts are scary, but the idea of your dad losing it and trying to hack you to death with an ax is terrifying.

Por que no los dos?

The book has both. The movie focuses on the one.


And dialing back the supernatural element and focusing on the crazy dad was the smarter decision.

Don't believe me? Check out that god-awful 100% faithful to the book mini-series.
 
2012-09-20 07:13:27 AM

stoli n coke: Don't believe me? Check out that god-awful 100% faithful to the book mini-series.


I agree it sucked, but I don't think it's a fair comparison.

Kubrick vs. Some TV show director

Nicholson vs. the guy from Wings
 
2012-09-20 07:24:34 AM

The Muthaship: stoli n coke: Don't believe me? Check out that god-awful 100% faithful to the book mini-series.

I agree it sucked, but I don't think it's a fair comparison.

Kubrick vs. Some TV show director

Nicholson vs. the guy from Wings


King approved the mini-series script and has repeatedly hired that same director, in part because he is slavishly faithful to the source material.

You've got a point on the caliber of acting, but that piece of crap is as close to what King wanted his vision to be as he could make it.

I like his books, but he just doesn't do visual storytelling well. All the best movies from his books are the ones where he butts out and lets the filmmakers do their thing.

However, I will make an exception for Maximum Overdrive. That flick iwas a King production through and through and is one of the most fun rainy Saturday afternoon movies ever.
 
2012-09-20 07:29:49 AM

stoli n coke: that piece of crap is as close to what King wanted his vision to be as he could make it.


He does insist on a bit to much adherence to the source material, and his books don't always lend themselves to that so well.
 
2012-09-20 08:10:30 AM
FLMountainMan:I've said this before on here, but 11/22/63 is the first Stephen King book I ever contemplated giving up on. It's just so lazy. Everyone of his tired stock characters is in there. He/the protagonist of course is a middle-aged English professor who gets to bang a hot young blonde while loosening up all the small-town squares. About every four pages he reminds us that he's not racist, but Texas is. At some point I began to think that maybe Stephen King, having grown up in Maine and been a multimillionaire since his twenties, has probably never been in a room with more than two black people at the same time, is really self-conscious about that. And that maybe he caught his wife schlicking to Matthew McConnaughey or something.
The ending sucks and he didn't seem to put much time into crafting it. Then, in a rambling fake apology in the epilogue for calling Texas so racist, he tells us, as evidence he's right, that "[Texas] is a place that has bars with signs that say "No Guns Allowed." I'm not sure Stephen gets out much these days, and when he does, I don't think he mingles with the working/middle class. I've seen signs like that from here (Florida) to Montana.


If I want to read about racist Texans I'll stick to Joe R Lansdale, thank you very much.

/Salems Lot was one of the best pieces of ensemble cast writing I've ever read tho
//Lets hope he's remembered how to write vampires properly
///slashapalooza!
 
2012-09-20 08:13:49 AM
Why not just rewrite Hellhouse? Change Benjamin to Danny, give him more of a backstory and there you.
 
2012-09-20 08:22:44 AM
People, when SK talks about "psychic vampires", he is NOT talking about regular vampires. In his books they are very different things.

Psychic vampires have popped up in some of his books, notably in the Dark Tower and in 11/22/63 (It was one too, actually). They feed on emotions, which they induce in people either by scaring them, making them despair, or even laugh. HOnestly, much more interesting concept than regular vampires.
 
2012-09-20 08:49:23 AM

Confabulat: eyehate: He should stop

Why? He loves to write. No one is forcing you to read him. Personally, I'm pretty glad he's still around to entertain me. Sorry you can't appreciate that.


agreed. i've loved most of his stuff. sure, there is some stuff i don't like, but i didn't like dirty work by the stones, either. didn't lesson my love for exile.
 
2012-09-20 09:01:09 AM

SockMonkeyHolocaust: Why not just rewrite Hellhouse? Change Benjamin to Danny, give him more of a backstory and there you.


Red Rose was the rewrite of Hellhouse but I like your idea.
 
2012-09-20 09:01:44 AM
Sorry, Rose Red.
 
2012-09-20 09:06:16 AM
.....this just in:


Kubrick is a superior filmmaker
to Stephen King as a writer.

period.
 
2012-09-20 09:07:36 AM

eyehate: Confabulat: King has had his ups and downs, but that period of his writing is buried. And you know, sometimes, dead is better.

Agreed.

Dead is better.

He should stop.

Psychic vampires sound horrible.


Could they be Low Men in Yellow Coats?
 
2012-09-20 09:10:12 AM
eyehate

Confabulat: I'm guessing you're being sarcastic, but I'm not. Are you seriously telling me that Stephen King should stop writing in 2012 because of a lousy book he published a decade ago?

I don't condemn the man for one lousy book.

He has just gotten very lazy since. Skeleton Crew, The Shining, Creepshow, Cujo - wonderful stuff.

Have not read anything inspired in a very long time.

Turning The Shining into a vampire horror movie, it just sounds like bad form. Yet another bad book idea.

But I didn't mean to offend your reading sensibilities. Just expressing my opinion.



His Dark Tower series was very inspired I thought.
 
2012-09-20 09:37:25 AM

craigdamage: .....this just in:


Kubrick is a superior filmmaker
to Stephen King as a writer.

period.


This just in:

Kubrick's The Shining wasn't scary. It was laughable. Nicholson overacted the entire time but the as a comedic performance it was stellar.
Olive Oyl's constant whining was unbearable. Danny talking via his finger was lame. The ghosts were boring and uninspired.

But since most farkers saw the film when they were very young it explains the reason they feel it works as a horror film. Truth is though, it has only one nominally scary scene (the twins in the hallway) and that's it.

period.
 
2012-09-20 09:52:32 AM

Free Radical: craigdamage: .....this just in:


Kubrick is a superior filmmaker
to Stephen King as a writer.

period.

This just in:

Kubrick's The Shining wasn't scary. It was laughable. Nicholson overacted the entire time but the as a comedic performance it was stellar.
Olive Oyl's constant whining was unbearable. Danny talking via his finger was lame. The ghosts were boring and uninspired.

But since most farkers saw the film when they were very young it explains the reason they feel it works as a horror film. Truth is though, it has only one nominally scary scene (the twins in the hallway) and that's it.

period.


Oh give me a break. Wow look at Mr. I Know More About Classic Movies Than You tell us what's up with Kubrick.

We were young, you know.
 
2012-09-20 10:01:01 AM

Free Radical: craigdamage: .....this just in:


Kubrick is a superior filmmaker
to Stephen King as a writer.

period.

This just in:

Kubrick's The Shining wasn't scary. It was laughable. Nicholson overacted the entire time but the as a comedic performance it was stellar.
Olive Oyl's constant whining was unbearable. Danny talking via his finger was lame. The ghosts were boring and uninspired.

But since most farkers saw the film when they were very young it explains the reason they feel it works as a horror film. Truth is though, it has only one nominally scary scene (the twins in the hallway) and that's it.

period.


CSB
There was a theater near me that used to to midnight classics. Watched a whole slew of great oldish movies. When they did the Shining it was almost like they were showing a comedy. For weeks after me and my crew would end conversations randomly with "Over".
 
2012-09-20 10:20:16 AM
I haven't heard him read this yet, so can anyone tell me, do any of the words have the letter L in them? Because I don't think I could stand to listen to that.
 
2012-09-20 10:22:40 AM
He's going to make a ton of money off of this.
 
2012-09-20 10:29:41 AM

Confabulat: This argument always comes up with people around my age, who grew up reading King and somehow stopped 15 or 20 years ago, and decided that he sucks now, but haven't bothered to actually read anything he's written in a decade.

Duma Key is pretty great. Under the Dome is silly and already as hilariously dated as Firestarter, but still a fun 1000 page read and very much King. Wind Through the Keyhole is one of the better Dark Tower stories. Full Dark, No Stars was just that. Haven't read 11-23-63 yet but hear it's pretty entertaining in a Dead Zone kinda way.

Sure he was horrible both before and after his accident. But that was in the 1990s, the man got better.


But has he learned how to end a story yet? That is what keeps me from reading King, even the small number of his books that I am interested in (The Stand springs to mind) but never got around to reading.
 
2012-09-20 10:32:28 AM

Altman: People, when SK talks about "psychic vampires", he is NOT talking about regular vampires. In his books they are very different things.

Psychic vampires have popped up in some of his books, notably in the Dark Tower and in 11/22/63 (It was one too, actually). They feed on emotions, which they induce in people either by scaring them, making them despair, or even laugh. HOnestly, much more interesting concept than regular vampires.


It's not a bad concept in general, either. Dan Simmons wrote 'Carrion Comfort' using the same basic premise of a 'person that feeds on negative emotion' and while his book begins to drag like a motherfarker, the underlying concept was solid and horrifying. It's easily useable and it's just fashionable to rag on King because he remains readable and filthy rich off of the shiat he writes.

/will get Doctor Sleep day one
 
2012-09-20 11:08:13 AM
Huh! I always thought King hated the Kubrick version because it relied too much on the supernatural element. That it was supposed to be more about Jack's personal demons being amplified by the isolation of the Overlook.

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CSB:
I used to work for both The Stanley and The Timberline (theatrical and made-for-TV Overlooks)
The head of engineering at the Stanley used to go batshiat trying to keep the number plate on the door of "The Suite" where everything happened (212?)
During the filming of the made-for-TV version, tHe cast stayed at the hotel and they had to change that room number for the duration as it was the only available room left and the kid who played Danny was too scared to be in THAT room.
 
2012-09-20 11:18:41 AM

Free Radical: craigdamage: .....this just in:


Kubrick is a superior filmmaker
to Stephen King as a writer.

period.

This just in:

Kubrick's The Shining wasn't scary. It was laughable. Nicholson overacted the entire time but the as a comedic performance it was stellar.
Olive Oyl's constant whining was unbearable. Danny talking via his finger was lame. The ghosts were boring and uninspired.

But since most farkers saw the film when they were very young it explains the reason they feel it works as a horror film. Truth is though, it has only one nominally scary scene (the twins in the hallway) and that's it.

period.


My problem with it was my best friend was hyping it up to be one of the scariest movies ever(was 16 at the time) so I kept bracing myself and expecting something scary to happen.then it ended and I was just like "what the hell".

Upon watching it again, its a decent flick and I like the atmosphere and mood, but still dont care for it too much.

Oh and I hate Shelly Duvual. .
 
2012-09-20 11:24:44 AM

maelstrom0370: Huh! I always thought King hated the Kubrick version because it relied too much on the supernatural element. That it was supposed to be more about Jack's personal demons being amplified by the isolation of the Overlook.


One of the critiques that I've heard King has with the film (and one that I really agree with) is the casting of Jack Nicholson. Even at the very start of the movie, you know that guy is crazy, and you're just waiting for him to snap.

As bad as a lot of the TV miniseries was, the casting of the guy from Wings at least had the right idea. He seemed like a normal guy who just went over the edge due to his own personal demons and the powers of the hotel.
 
2012-09-20 11:46:03 AM

Confabulat: Bathia_Mapes: Confabulat: 11-23-63

I really enjoyed 11-23-63.

I've got it, just haven't gotten to it yet. Like a lot of Gen X types, I am not too excited to hear another damn ex-hippie go on and on about the sixties again though


Mostly late fifties, i'd say. The book was great, although it went on a bit too long for my taste. Ironically, the sections dealing with Oswald (sort of the point of the book) were the worst. But all in all, well worth the read.
 
2012-09-20 12:24:56 PM

Confabulat: Free Radical: craigdamage: .....this just in:


Kubrick is a superior filmmaker
to Stephen King as a writer.

period.

This just in:

Kubrick's The Shining wasn't scary. It was laughable. Nicholson overacted the entire time but the as a comedic performance it was stellar.
Olive Oyl's constant whining was unbearable. Danny talking via his finger was lame. The ghosts were boring and uninspired.

But since most farkers saw the film when they were very young it explains the reason they feel it works as a horror film. Truth is though, it has only one nominally scary scene (the twins in the hallway) and that's it.

period.

Oh give me a break. Wow look at Mr. I Know More About Classic Movies Than You tell us what's up with Kubrick.

We were young, you know.


I don't profess to know more about classic films than anyone else but i do know a piece of crap pretentious clusterfark when I see one.
Even at a young age.
 
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