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(NBC News)   That 14 year-old video of Obama? Turns out the Republicans are good at editing   (firstread.nbcnews.com) divider line 24
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2012-09-20 01:11:44 AM
8 votes:
I know, have you ever seen an unedited Obama pic?

moodyeyeview.files.wordpress.com 

I thought the guy was black!
2012-09-20 11:15:23 AM
2 votes:
"I think the trick is figuring out how do we structure government systems that pool resources and hence facilitate some redistribution because I actually believe in redistribution, at least at a certain level to make sure that everybody's got a shot. How do we pool resources at the same time as we decentralize delivery systems in ways that both foster competition, can work in the marketplace, and can foster innovation at the local level and can be tailored to particular communities." 

I am shocked to discover that Obama thinks everybody is a commmie.
2012-09-20 11:10:38 AM
2 votes:

Examples of redistribution: Every government expenditure ever.

- Bill Hammond (@NYDNHammond) September 18, 2012
2012-09-20 11:03:00 AM
2 votes:
The Romney campaign: 10 percent inspiration, 90 percent desperation.
2012-09-20 11:01:07 AM
2 votes:
This is my shocked face.

:-|
2012-09-20 04:19:56 PM
1 votes:

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: Who is Bill Hammond? The man is a moron.

Or:

Examples of redistribution: Every expenditure ever.

About as helpful a 'witty' tweet.


Good talk.
2012-09-20 01:52:51 PM
1 votes:
2012-09-20 12:44:45 PM
1 votes:

colon_pow: Dr Dreidel: colon_pow: sure redistribution occurs as part of the tax system and public services. but "redistribution" for the sake of taking from the wealthy (because they "have enough") and distributing it to others for fairness' sake is a different animal.

but of course you already know that.

Either you're arguing against progressive taxation (which is something Benjamin Franklin, TJ, Adam Smith, Karl Marx and a whole lot of other philosopher-economists have come up with as the best way to tax fairly and sensibly) or saying "it's not 2+2, it's two PLUS two!" or arguing against all taxation.

Any money you send to the government is by definition redistributed - it was "distributed" to you by your employer or stock broker, you "redistribute" it to the Feds (or the state), they spend it on gas for a motor pool car, or the governor's salary, or a tax break for the new Walmart, or TANF, or as insurance on a student or home loan - unless the government sets it on fire.

so you're saying that when the president uses the term "redistribution", it's not the same dog-whistle or coded word that it normally is. you're gonna stretch it and spin it and contort it. is that what your handlers instructed you to do?


I'm saying that redistribution is what taxation does, unless your government is in the habit of setting its collected revenue on fire (or otherwise destroying the actual currency).

If you ignore the part where Obama says that it's "redistribution AT A CERTAIN LEVEL" that he favors, and that Obama's proposing the Clinton-era tax rates (or, if you prefer, no new legislation to keep the Bush rates in place past 2013) - hardly breaking some new confiscatory-tax-communism ground that no president would ever think to do - and that at no point did Obama suggest anything as radical as what your fevered imagination did - then yes, Obama used a coded dogwhistle word.

My handlers instructed me to write a User Guide and diagram my application's data flow, but instead I'm here arguing some bullshiat. I tried listening to the air handler herre for instruction, but it just gave me a boring drone sound. Chelsea Handler instructed me to drink a lot of wine. Chandler Bing asked if I could BE any more politically-minded, then did a mound of coke off my desk. I Bing'd (the search engine) "Obama instructions", but all I got was a page telling me about the Obama/Alinsky plan to turn America into 1643 France.
2012-09-20 11:57:06 AM
1 votes:
Is there anything the GOP does that isn't so ironically hypocritical as to require the coining of a new word?

Hypocrublical?

Irocritical?

Conserhypical?

Looking for anything cromulent, here.
2012-09-20 11:39:13 AM
1 votes:

aug3: "... we decentralize ..." see Fartbama said decentralize, this means Mitt is automatically Emporer of Communism, and Ryan has to wear Sarah's little green commie hat whenever he gives a speech


I know you're being snarky, but aren't conservatives in favor of decentralizing?
2012-09-20 11:38:44 AM
1 votes:

Cletus C.: His redistribution rhetoric remains disturbing.


Indeed. He seems to think the point is to give people something called a "shot" and that markets are somehow inherently desireable. Frankly, I think he needs to spend more time studying Lenin's works.

3/10, would not call comrade.
2012-09-20 11:37:37 AM
1 votes:

The Dreaded Rear Admiral: Cletus C.: His redistribution rhetoric remains disturbing.

You're probably not cut out for living in civilization then.


As if there were any question about that in the first place.
2012-09-20 11:36:05 AM
1 votes:

Cletus C.: OneTimed: Cletus C.: His redistribution rhetoric remains disturbing.

So you think it's better than the uber wealthy horde trillions (HORDE, not spend) and keep it out of the economy?

It's not just unethical, it's painfully stupid.

Confiscating wealth because you don't like what's being done with launches you down a buttery slope.


Okay, thank you for that example of a talking-point shart. Now explain to the class why it's laughably stupid.
2012-09-20 11:31:08 AM
1 votes:
Obama during the debates, should ask Mitt how he intends to pay for the current Republican deficits if he doesn't redistribute taxpayers money
2012-09-20 11:29:49 AM
1 votes:
Todays GOP explained;

A plate with twelve cookies is presented to a republican and a democrat.

A 1%er immediately takes eleven of the cookies then tells the republican that the democrat is trying to take his cookie.
2012-09-20 11:27:52 AM
1 votes:
He's talking about fostering innovation within government at the local level to better handle redistribution. This changes nothing.

The "unedited" version of the Romney video changed nothing.

Stating that these videos are edited is different from asserting that the edits themselves altered the meaning of the words. I can cut a porn video to remove the part where the pool boy arrives at the house. You may watch the video and not know he's a pool boy, but in the end viewing the "unedited" version doesn't change the fact that your mom did porn.

Grow up. Your candidates stink and your mother had low ethical standards when she was young.
2012-09-20 11:27:19 AM
1 votes:
"... we decentralize ..." see Fartbama said decentralize, this means Mitt is automatically Emporer of Communism, and Ryan has to wear Sarah's little green commie hat whenever he gives a speech
2012-09-20 11:21:19 AM
1 votes:
Now that's how you edit a video to take something out of context, Republicans...

'Course, considering you did the same thing with the "You didn't build that quote", I'm assuming you already knew that and are just using this to deflect from Romney's asinine comments about half the country.

Carry on, you dishonest shiat sorcerers.
2012-09-20 11:20:18 AM
1 votes:
1998? I hadn't even realized what a desperate "NO U" this whole thing is until now. Not only is it reasonable and consistent with Obama's philosophy, it's also nearly two decades old?

Clownshoes. Clownshoes everywhere.
2012-09-20 11:17:08 AM
1 votes:
Did they really build that?
2012-09-20 11:16:46 AM
1 votes:

Brandyelf: Is anyone actually surprised by this? It was a naked attempt to say, "Look! Their guy says bad things, too!" It failed, and this is just the icing on the cake.


I really liked that part of the TDS video (2 links down) where Stewart exposed this deflection:
Media are reporting on Romney's "47%" comments
-deflection 1: it was "inartfully worded"
-deflection 2: it was an uncomfortable (one might say "inconvenient") truth, but a "winning strategy" to push the 47% line
-deflection 3: that was 5 months ago!!
-deflection 4: Obama once said something, too!
2012-09-20 11:09:15 AM
1 votes:

Cletus C.: His redistribution rhetoric remains disturbing.


Why? Do you believe that concentrating vast wealth in a very few hands is a positive for the country?
2012-09-20 11:07:16 AM
1 votes:
imageshack.us
2012-09-20 08:41:16 AM
1 votes:
I'm shocked.
 
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