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(Shadowlocked)   The shiniest show in the 'Verse premiered ten years ago today. And if you don't know what that refers to, subby strongly suggests you go and watch Firefly right now. (After reading the article, of course.)   (shadowlocked.com) divider line 108
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2012-09-20 09:21:42 AM
You can't take the sky from me.
 
2012-09-20 09:23:39 AM
I like Firefly fine, but it's always struck me as one of those shows where the plot is completely forgettable, you just watch for the appeal of the characters and to see the neat universe they're in. I have a hard time remembering any particular single episode - except for the one where Mal "marries" Christina Hendricks.
 
2012-09-20 09:30:32 AM
The show would have been cooler if River Tam became a robotic killer like Cameron Phillips; but maybe with psychic powers or something.
 
2012-09-20 10:15:06 AM
imageshack.us
 
2012-09-20 10:24:53 AM
No, fark Joss Wedon in his ass.
 
2012-09-20 11:04:10 AM
Apparently, you can stop the signal.
 
2012-09-20 12:45:07 PM

God Is My Co-Pirate: I like Firefly fine, but it's always struck me as one of those shows where the plot is completely forgettable, you just watch for the appeal of the characters and to see the neat universe they're in. I have a hard time remembering any particular single episode - except for the one where Mal "marries" Christina Hendricks.


Not the one where they're defending the besieged whorehouse? That's mine.

You're right though, the dialogue and characters are more memorable than the plots.
 
2012-09-20 12:48:22 PM
i1127.photobucket.com

Worth it just for this.
 
2012-09-20 12:52:05 PM

GameSprocket: [i1127.photobucket.com image 544x449]

Worth it just for this.


I'll be in my bunk.
 
2012-09-20 12:55:47 PM
Recent Ex got me hooked Firefly. Sad...but happy everytime I see a FF thread. Sigh...shiny.
 
2012-09-20 12:58:41 PM
A toast to absent friends.
 
2012-09-20 01:02:46 PM
It's over, get over it.
 
2012-09-20 01:03:59 PM

dualplains: God Is My Co-Pirate: I like Firefly fine, but it's always struck me as one of those shows where the plot is completely forgettable, you just watch for the appeal of the characters and to see the neat universe they're in. I have a hard time remembering any particular single episode - except for the one where Mal "marries" Christina Hendricks.

Not the one where they're defending the besieged whorehouse? That's mine.

You're right though, the dialogue and characters are more memorable than the plots.


Shindig was my favorite episode. And then the finale which was a weird trip into Joss Whedon's existential experimentation. But the show was worth it for generous booty shots found within the second Christina Hendricks episode.
 
2012-09-20 01:07:48 PM
The writer knew more about the extended character names than I ever learned watching the shows.

I've also no exposure to the later comics and mini-episodes mentioned. Wonder if I can find them sometime.
 
2012-09-20 01:07:51 PM

texdent: It's over, get over it.


The relationship...yeah...damn.
 
2012-09-20 01:09:08 PM

KatjaMouse: Shindig was my favorite episode. And then the finale which was a weird trip into Joss Whedon's existential experimentation. But the show was worth it for generous booty shots found within the second Christina Hendricks episode.


Booty shots? (thinks back) Ohhhhh, as in Mal's.
 
2012-09-20 01:09:50 PM

Alphax: KatjaMouse: Shindig was my favorite episode. And then the finale which was a weird trip into Joss Whedon's existential experimentation. But the show was worth it for generous booty shots found within the second Christina Hendricks episode.

Booty shots? (thinks back) Ohhhhh, as in Mal's.


Yup. Tooootally worth it.
 
2012-09-20 01:11:52 PM
You're all wrong. War Stories was the best episode, hands down.
 
2012-09-20 01:13:30 PM
In many ways, one could be quite vulgar and simply say it's an amalgamation of bits and pieces of other popular sci-fi movies and programs. But it really runs deeper than that. You can certainly find archetypes of all of the characters in other sources, but the dialogue-driven story and Whedonesque quirks to the characters make them fresh and original. Mal could be compared to Han Solo, the smuggler with a heart of gold, a true space cowboy in every sense. However, Han's own name reveals his true spirit, that of a loner. He's never really comfortable with a crown, whereas Mal seems to revel in having a team, a crew to keep him company.

1.bp.blogspot.com

images-mediawiki-sites.thefullwiki.org

www.wildsoundmovies.com

The ONLY time Han was Solo was when he was wall art.
 
2012-09-20 01:13:31 PM
The 'Verse? Really?
 
2012-09-20 01:16:40 PM

Detinwolf: The 'Verse? Really?


Well...yeah.

That's what it's called.

www.fireflyshipworks.com 

i.qkme.me
/i'll be relapsing tonight
 
2012-09-20 01:17:55 PM
I'll just say I quite enjoyed the show and the network handled it poorly.
 
2012-09-20 01:18:11 PM

Detinwolf: The 'Verse? Really?


A very commonly used term on the show.
 
2012-09-20 01:18:34 PM

KatjaMouse: Alphax: KatjaMouse: Shindig was my favorite episode. And then the finale which was a weird trip into Joss Whedon's existential experimentation. But the show was worth it for generous booty shots found within the second Christina Hendricks episode.

Booty shots? (thinks back) Ohhhhh, as in Mal's.

Yup. Tooootally worth it.


Giggle. That was going to be mine.
 
2012-09-20 01:19:37 PM
overrated.
 
2012-09-20 01:20:41 PM

Expolaris: Detinwolf: The 'Verse? Really?

Well...yeah.

That's what it's called.

[www.fireflyshipworks.com image 700x462] 

[i.qkme.me image 360x360]
/i'll be relapsing tonight


I like that second pic.
 
2012-09-20 01:28:28 PM

VTGremlin: You're all wrong. War Stories was the best episode, hands down.

 
2012-09-20 01:30:58 PM

omeganuepsilon: GameSprocket: [i1127.photobucket.com image 544x449]

Worth it just for this.

I'll be in my bunk.


CSB: I watched Firefly about 6 months after breaking up with a girl who looks EXACTLY like Kaylee (but she's 5'11; so about 6" taller. Giggity). The whole first episode, I'm goggling. When I told this to my boss (the day after this first watching), he smacked me upside the head.

// she did the breaking-up
// mark me down in favor of Jaynestown - "Son of a biatch!"
 
2012-09-20 01:31:35 PM
I am a leaf on the wind.
 
2012-09-20 01:33:46 PM

God Is My Co-Pirate: I like Firefly fine, but it's always struck me as one of those shows where the plot is completely forgettable, you just watch for the appeal of the characters and to see the neat universe they're in. I have a hard time remembering any particular single episode - except for the one where Mal "marries" Christina Hendricks.


Pretty much. Also had some decent special effects for a TV show of its time. Or course others set pieces were cheesy (like the ATV). Really what made Firefly good was the writing and the chemistry that all the actors had. In a perfect world Firefly likely would have had 3-4 seasons on network TV and then moved on over to SciFi. Kind of like Stargate starting out on Showtime and eventually landed on SciFi. Of course Fox farked Firefly's schedule and then for whatever reason wouldn't release rights on to someone else.

The plot wasn't all that good and sooner later River was going to end up overpowered relative to almost everything else. It was the wisecracking cowboys in space that made it watchable.
 
2012-09-20 01:35:31 PM

perigee: In many ways, one could be quite vulgar and simply say it's an amalgamation of bits and pieces of other popular sci-fi movies and programs. But it really runs deeper than that. You can certainly find archetypes of all of the characters in other sources, but the dialogue-driven story and Whedonesque quirks to the characters make them fresh and original. Mal could be compared to Han Solo, the smuggler with a heart of gold, a true space cowboy in every sense. However, Han's own name reveals his true spirit, that of a loner. He's never really comfortable with a crown, whereas Mal seems to revel in having a team, a crew to keep him company.

[1.bp.blogspot.com image 320x240]

[images-mediawiki-sites.thefullwiki.org image 200x280]

[www.wildsoundmovies.com image 518x768]

The ONLY time Han was Solo was when he was wall art.


So, he has a dog.

This is the thing: In fiction, even a loner needs someone to talk to, so the viewer can see him expressing his thoughts and feelings. The Lone Ranger had Tonto, Batman had Alfred. Hamlet talks to a skull in the graveyard when he's alone. Lucas gave Han Solo a dog. Except a Space Dog, but a dog. Han talks to his dog like you and I talk to our dogs, and the dog grunts and barks and growls back. Chewie's not a character; he's a device, a prop.
 
2012-09-20 01:40:23 PM
Never seen it. Have zero desire to. Started to watch Serenity (or whatever it's call) and barely made it halfway through before shutting it off. Looked like a made for TV, SciFi original. I can only imagine how much worse the TV would have been.
 
2012-09-20 01:42:47 PM

Bluemookie: Never seen it. Have zero desire to. Started to watch Serenity (or whatever it's call) and barely made it halfway through before shutting it off. Looked like a made for TV, SciFi original. I can only imagine how much worse the TV would have been.


I actually found the TV show to be better than the movie... probably partially for exactly what you're talking about. The movie just seemed like an extra long episode of the TV show to me.

I liked the show, but I doubt I would have liked it enough to find time for it every week when it was on had I known.
 
2012-09-20 01:43:23 PM
Man, the guy from Castle was really slumming before he got on that show. At least he found a better TV show to be on, unlike most of the rest of the cast of Firefly.
 
2012-09-20 01:45:49 PM

SpoilerAlert: Man, the guy from Castle was really slumming before he got on that show. At least he found a better TV show to be on, unlike most of the rest of the cast of Firefly.


www4.images.coolspotters.com

I don't know she was pretty hot in V until she went to Barakka's dentist.

thevalien.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-09-20 01:46:37 PM

miscreant: I actually found the TV show to be better than the movie... probably partially for exactly what you're talking about. The movie just seemed like an extra long episode of the TV show to me.


Yeah but damned it all that Whedon never got around to getting into Book's back story.
 
2012-09-20 01:47:09 PM
Thanks to the show, now *I* have a cunning hat.

i81.photobucket.com 

/nice when the actors are still cool
 
2012-09-20 01:49:30 PM

Bluemookie: Never seen it. Have zero desire to. Started to watch Serenity (or whatever it's call) and barely made it halfway through before shutting it off. Looked like a made for TV, SciFi original. I can only imagine how much worse the TV would have been.


Hey, thanks for coming in and sharing. Must be hard to watch something when you don't even own a TV.
 
2012-09-20 01:49:31 PM

miscreant: Bluemookie: Never seen it. Have zero desire to. Started to watch Serenity (or whatever it's call) and barely made it halfway through before shutting it off. Looked like a made for TV, SciFi original. I can only imagine how much worse the TV would have been.

I actually found the TV show to be better than the movie... probably partially for exactly what you're talking about. The movie just seemed like an extra long episode of the TV show to me.

I liked the show, but I doubt I would have liked it enough to find time for it every week when it was on had I known.


Firefly was the LAST show that I tried to watch weekly. And didn't always succeed, when the bumped the show for sports and stuff.
 
2012-09-20 01:50:45 PM

Expolaris: I don't know she was pretty hot in V until she went to Barakka's dentist.


If you want hot, check her out in Homeland.

/bewbies
 
2012-09-20 01:50:55 PM

Alphax: Firefly was the LAST show that I tried to watch weekly. And didn't always succeed, when the bumped the show for sports and stuff.


That's pretty much what I went through with Freaks & Geeks only instead of sports it was the latest fad game show.
 
2012-09-20 01:53:14 PM
I missed the boat with the show, but i did catch the Serenity movie, which was pretty damned good. It really does feel like any intelligent watch worthy show is almost dead on arrival with network tv. The masses are truely asses.
 
2012-09-20 01:56:11 PM

Browncoat: Expolaris: I don't know she was pretty hot in V until she went to Barakka's dentist.

If you want hot, check her out in Homeland.

/bewbies


Indeed!!
 
2012-09-20 01:57:30 PM
imageshack.us
 
2012-09-20 02:10:11 PM

Tr0mBoNe: Browncoat: Expolaris: I don't know she was pretty hot in V until she went to Barakka's dentist.

If you want hot, check her out in Homeland.

/bewbies

Indeed!!


encrypted-tbn3.google.com
 
2012-09-20 02:11:12 PM
Currently listening to Aisha Tyler's interview with Nathan Fillion on her podcast, so I'm getting a kick...

/in my bunk
 
2012-09-20 02:14:43 PM

God Is My Co-Pirate: I like Firefly fine, but it's always struck me as one of those shows where the plot is completely forgettable, you just watch for the appeal of the characters and to see the neat universe they're in. I have a hard time remembering any particular single episode - except for the one where Mal "marries" Christina Hendricks.


Not really.
"Serenity" plot: The crew "rescues" some supplies from a derelict, runs around trying to sell it. Subplot involving passengers, one of whom is trying to arrest two of the others.

"Train Job" plot: Psycho hires crew to steal some medicine from a train. The job goes weird and the crew has a change of heart.

"Bushwhacked" plot: The crew comes upon a ship attacked by Reavers. They are subsequently detained by an Alliance ship, who accuses them of murder. A survivor goes crazy and the Alliance figures out what's going on.

"Shindig" plot: The crew hits a planet where Badger hires them to try to get some business from a local noble. A fight breaks out at a upper class party and Mal is challenged to a duel by someone who will probably kill him in a fair fight. Mal wins.

"Safe" Plot: The crew delivers the cargo from the previous episode, things go bad and Book is shot. While this is happening, the rest of the crew visit town. Simon and River are kidnapped, so Book needs another doctor, and they go to the Alliance. River is accused of witchcraft and the Big Damn Heroes show up.

"Our Mrs. Reynolds" plot: You covered.

"Jaynestown" plot: The crew end up at a planet Jayne tried to rob sometime in the past. Turns out he's considered a hero there. Eventually, his past catches up with him and things get violent.

"Out of Gas" plot: A part breaks and the ship is stranded. The crew, except Mal, go in the escape pods for help. Mal eventually receives a response from another ship who has the part. They shot him and start looting the ship. Mal recovers and fixes the ship but passes out before sending a signal for the crew to return. They comeback anyway. Flashbacks to how each of the crew got there also happen. This is the best episode of the series.

"Ariel" plot: The crew goes to an Alliance planet, and Simon plans a heist of medicine at a hospital there. Things go interesting. Jayne betrays Simon and River, then saves them later, when the Alliance betrays him.

"War Stories" plot: Psycho from "Train Job" returns, kidnaps Mal and Wash and tortures them. Zoey buys back Wash. The crew mount an assault on the psycho. They win. River is an unstoppable killing machine.

"Trash" plot: Mal runs into his ex-wife, they plan a robbery. She betrays him, which was part of the plan, and everything is shiny.

"The Message" plot: The body of an old comrade of Mal and Zoey's is delivered to them. He wakes up. Cops are after him. He dies again. Easily the worst episode of the series.

"Heart of Gold: plot: A whorehouse is under attack from a rich guy who got one of the girls working there pregnant. The crew defends the whores.

"Objects in Space" plot: A bounty hunter, looking for River, takes over the ship and shoots Simon. River outsmarts the bounty hunter and things work out.
 
2012-09-20 02:15:42 PM

Snapper Carr: [imageshack.us image 504x314]


This made me laugh way harder than it probably should have.
 
2012-09-20 02:15:44 PM

VTGremlin: You're all wrong. War Stories was the best episode, hands down.


I'm sure that's just the torture talking.
 
2012-09-20 02:20:19 PM

Neeek: God Is My Co-Pirate: I like Firefly fine, but it's always struck me as one of those shows where the plot is completely forgettable, you just watch for the appeal of the characters and to see the neat universe they're in. I have a hard time remembering any particular single episode - except for the one where Mal "marries" Christina Hendricks.

Not really.
"Serenity" plot: The crew "rescues" some supplies from a derelict, runs around trying to sell it. Subplot involving passengers, one of whom is trying to arrest two of the others.

"Train Job" plot: Psycho hires crew to steal some medicine from a train. The job goes weird and the crew has a change of heart.

"Bushwhacked" plot: The crew comes upon a ship attacked by Reavers. They are subsequently detained by an Alliance ship, who accuses them of murder. A survivor goes crazy and the Alliance figures out what's going on.

"Shindig" plot: The crew hits a planet where Badger hires them to try to get some business from a local noble. A fight breaks out at a upper class party and Mal is challenged to a duel by someone who will probably kill him in a fair fight. Mal wins.

"Safe" Plot: The crew delivers the cargo from the previous episode, things go bad and Book is shot. While this is happening, the rest of the crew visit town. Simon and River are kidnapped, so Book needs another doctor, and they go to the Alliance. River is accused of witchcraft and the Big Damn Heroes show up.

"Our Mrs. Reynolds" plot: You covered.

"Jaynestown" plot: The crew end up at a planet Jayne tried to rob sometime in the past. Turns out he's considered a hero there. Eventually, his past catches up with him and things get violent.

"Out of Gas" plot: A part breaks and the ship is stranded. The crew, except Mal, go in the escape pods for help. Mal eventually receives a response from another ship who has the part. They shot him and start looting the ship. Mal recovers and fixes the ship but passes out before sending a signal for the crew to retur ...


Good summary. And yeah, when you lay them all out there, 'Out of Gas' is way up top.
 
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