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(Today)   "Welcome to the House of Pretension; I am Jean-Paul, your waiter. Today's specials include carpaccio of Maldivian yellow fin tuna, free-range organic brown wild duck breast stuffed with Israeli pearl couscous, and a 25% tip"   (bites.today.com) divider line 233
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2012-09-19 09:36:45 PM
No.

If you are good at what you do, I will tip 20% and round up to the next dollar.

If the bill is auto-tipped, you will not get one penny more. I don't care if you can deep throat me while reading the specials using a ventriloquist's dummy who is simultaneously deep-throating my friend. I've noticed that everywhere near here, the auto-grat amount is 18%. If so, then you're getting a lower tip from me than I usually give. So sorry, but when you took that liberty, you shortchanged yourself.

And if the menu says the bill is auto-tipped at 25%, then you will get that tip for exactly one round of soft drinks, because that's what I will probably have ordered before I notice that particular fine print. I will then open up your table for some other guests, and maybe THEY'll tip you 25%, because I'm sure the fark not doing it for an entire meal.
 
2012-09-19 10:11:31 PM
oh, for fark sake... another tipping thread.
 
2012-09-19 10:12:23 PM
For the record: I don't declinate.

I inhabit.

You?
 
2012-09-19 10:12:58 PM

Indubitably: For the record: I don't declinate.

I inhabit.

You?


Boo.
 
2012-09-19 10:13:29 PM
Let's get this out of the way

abovethelaw.com
 
2012-09-19 10:16:17 PM
Strap in, this could be a monster.
 
2012-09-19 10:17:49 PM
As a waiter at an 'upscale casual' restaurant, when I get a 25% tip I'm ecstatic. Most people tip somewhere between 15-20%.
 
2012-09-19 10:19:12 PM
Tipping threads - for those who like internet conflagrations but hate contemplating genital cutting.
 
2012-09-19 10:19:14 PM
If you work in a state that allows tip credit, so that wait staff don't earn minimum wage, you will get at least 20% from me, unless you really fark up, at which point I'll talk to your manager, and leave a tip that goes down depending on how poorly you did. If you work in a state that doesn't allow tip credit (for example, Alaska requires a minimum wage of $7.75 an hour for tipped employees, with no tip credit) you had better do an awesome job if you want more than 5-10% from me. You're getting paid the same as the any other minimum wage employee that I don't tip.
 
2012-09-19 10:21:00 PM
I have no problem with a 25% tip if the service and food is excellent.

But I want it to be my choice.
 
2012-09-19 10:21:43 PM
You end up paying the server either way.

Man up and let someone earn a living wage.
 
2012-09-19 10:22:22 PM
the Poughkeepsie area is home to a lot of wonderful restaurants as the Culinary Institute of America is not far. there is lots of very well trained chefs that know how to staff an eatery that makes for a lovely dining experience. good food and good wait staff gets good tips.

if my fat face is happy the minimum is 18%. a attentive server with a nice smile and a good personality may get 50% or more. you make my day, i'll make yours.
 
2012-09-19 10:22:23 PM
Considering the value of a dollar and how the actual minimum wage is just about the lowest ever, tip creep is inevitable if waiters are to earn a livable wage.
 
2012-09-19 10:23:58 PM
starwrecked.com
 
2012-09-19 10:24:02 PM

TofuTheAlmighty: Tipping threads - for those who like internet conflagrations but hate contemplating genital cutting.


I once knew a mohel that would leave dried infant foreskins under the salt shaker with his tips.
He was actually one of the first SARS fatalities during the 2003 epidemic.

/csb
 
2012-09-19 10:24:06 PM
What!? I'm just an average tipper now? I always thought I was making a waiter's day by tipping 20% if the service was acceptable and offset the douchebags who never tip. But now you're telling me 15% is an insult and 20% is the standard? I'm NOT going to 25%, go fark yourself NYC.
 
2012-09-19 10:24:09 PM
One of my favorite places to eat when I'm visiting our home office in Columbus, Ohio, is a place called the Northstar Cafe. Great food and service, and service is included in the price. What a concept! The credit card receipt doesn't even have a place to write a tip. It's nice.
 
2012-09-19 10:25:02 PM
The concept of tipping in general isn't a problem for me. The problem is this:
We go out to dinner. I order a filet mignon. You order a hamburger. From the server's perspective, he took both of our orders, gave them to the kitchen, then carried a plate to our table. We got the SAME service from the server, but I am expected to pay them more for it. fark that shiat...
 
2012-09-19 10:25:04 PM

Cyno01: Considering the value of a dollar and how the actual minimum wage is just about the lowest ever, tip creep is inevitable if waiters are to earn a livable wage.


This logic doesn't really compute, at least on the value of the dollar part. If the dollar is worth less you are paying more for the food thus you are paying a larger tip on the same percentage.
 
2012-09-19 10:25:12 PM
When you eat at Subway, Burger King, Braum's and Taco Bell you never have to tip.

When you eat at Hooters and the girl doesn't wear a bra and shows a lot cleaveage: $$

But I'm biased...
 
2012-09-19 10:25:19 PM

super_grass: You end up paying the server either way.

Man up and let someone earn a living wage.


Maybe they're already earning double what most people in the service industry make, thanks to those tips.
 
2012-09-19 10:26:27 PM

Cyno01: Considering the value of a dollar and how the actual minimum wage is just about the lowest ever, tip creep is inevitable if waiters are to earn a livable wage.


Tips are a percentage of the total bill. Servers and bartenders are the only employees in America outside of government employees who get an automatic raise, without tip creep.

Also, servers and bartenders generally significantly more than minimum wage.
 
2012-09-19 10:28:01 PM
I won't be leaving 25% unless it's my choice and I am overly in love with my server and probably snockered. You'll get 15% if you're average and up to 20% if you are good. Average 17%-18%.

The bonus for you servers is I am a dynamite customer! Very personable. Oh yes... it's true! That will help make up for the additional 5% you'll not extract from my hide for the occasional excursion to your restaurant which, in all likelihood, needs all the customers it can get through its doors.
 
2012-09-19 10:28:19 PM
sorry Mr. Waiter, you're getting double the sales tax as a tip. More if I think you did an outstanding job, less if you fark up.
 
2012-09-19 10:28:53 PM
You're Abe Froman? The Sausage King of Chicago?"
 
2012-09-19 10:28:56 PM
No. You're getting 15%. Maybe 20% if you're extraordinary. If you think 15% is insulting you can go fark yourself.
 
2012-09-19 10:29:06 PM
What if I do not want to make a tip, since I am already paying the restaurant for the service and food, and the restaurant is paying the waiter's salary? Oh, would it be illegal then not to do so? I know everyone wants to experience eating out the best foodies in whole wide world, and so am I.
 
2012-09-19 10:29:18 PM
15% rounded up for normal service. With food getting more expensive, the tip goes up with it. I'm certainly not making any more money to be able to give them more money.
 
2012-09-19 10:29:29 PM
ive worked a ton in the service industry and 20% is still mandatory for me unless the server is absolutely awful.
in which case i tip more just to try to make their day better. i know its not my job to do so, but you would have no idea how much it can turn someones day around to get an excessive tip when they know they gave shiat service.
but i have never faulted people or got angry over a 10 to 15% tip, thats just some peoples standards.
its getting stiffed completely that incites rage.

/insert racist service industry joke here, possibly about 'canadians'
 
2012-09-19 10:30:33 PM
I hate tipping- service at a cheap restaurant could be exactly the same as an expensive one, yet I'm supposed to pay more. Let's just charge more for the meal and make service free already.
 
2012-09-19 10:31:02 PM
...Michael Lynn, who examined 9,000 credit card receipts from a Poughkeepsie, N.Y. restaurant, found that more than a third of diners left tips greater than 20 percent.

Wow, my home town raising the bar? Something tells me I wouldn't recognize the place if I went back. (Haven't been back since 1995.)
 
2012-09-19 10:31:30 PM

meanmutton: Cyno01: Considering the value of a dollar and how the actual minimum wage is just about the lowest ever, tip creep is inevitable if waiters are to earn a livable wage.

Tips are a percentage of the total bill. Servers and bartenders are the only employees in America outside of government employees who get an automatic raise, without tip creep.

Also, servers and bartenders generally significantly more than minimum wage.


...........after tips?
there are even exemptions from minimum wage for servers and bartenders. its around 4 bucks an hour, or NOT EVEN WORTH SHOWING UP FOR on a slow day.
 
2012-09-19 10:32:20 PM

LordOfThePings: [starwrecked.com image 850x478]


okay, what movie is this? sorry-- just don't know.
 
2012-09-19 10:32:38 PM

super_grass: You end up paying the server either way.

Man up and let someone earn a living wage.


Are you high? Oh, right...1/2 of the people working in the restaurants were when I worked at a few in college. How about restaurants pay their employees a living wage and adjust their prices accordingly? It's pretty easy to track performance in the service industry, so adjust their hourly rate to reflect it.
 
2012-09-19 10:32:46 PM
Scooby Doo can doodoo, but Jimmy Carter is smarter
 
2012-09-19 10:33:55 PM

Markoff_Cheney: ive worked a ton in the service industry and 20% is still mandatory for me unless the server is absolutely awful.
in which case i tip more just to try to make their day better. i know its not my job to do so, but you would have no idea how much it can turn someones day around to get an excessive tip when they know they gave shiat service.
but i have never faulted people or got angry over a 10 to 15% tip, thats just some peoples standards.
its getting stiffed completely that incites rage.

/insert racist service industry joke here, possibly about 'canadians'


Canadians are really bad tippers. Especially the black ones.
 
2012-09-19 10:33:57 PM
I tip the server ten percent, and the buser ten.

Because fark servers.

/ex-buser
 
2012-09-19 10:33:58 PM
Just pay the goddamn waitstaff a goddamn decent goddamn wage and get rid of this goddamn stupid awful f*cking debate once and for all. Why do I have to analyze the global economic situation and balance it against getting my food stink-palmed every time I want a goddamn steak? Why can't I just pay people money for food?
 
2012-09-19 10:34:50 PM

dahmers love zombie: If the bill is auto-tipped, you will not get one penny more. I don't care if you can deep throat me while reading the specials using a ventriloquist's dummy who is simultaneously deep-throating my friend. I've noticed that everywhere near here, the auto-grat amount is 18%. If so, then you're getting a lower tip from me than I usually give. So sorry, but when you took that liberty, you shortchanged yourself.


You owe me a monitor and a keyboard after reading this.
 
2012-09-19 10:36:48 PM

poorjon: Just pay the goddamn waitstaff a goddamn decent goddamn wage and get rid of this goddamn stupid awful f*cking debate once and for all. Why do I have to analyze the global economic situation and balance it against getting my food stink-palmed every time I want a goddamn steak? Why can't I just pay people money for food?


debate really isn't very terrible. Just tip as you see fit. See? No need to change anything.

/ 20%
//unless it's a bar and I am or plan on being a regular then more
 
2012-09-19 10:37:18 PM

LordOfThePings: [starwrecked.com image 850x478]


No you cannot have ze duck!

/is that the correct movie?
 
2012-09-19 10:38:23 PM
I'll tip on drinks.....food I'll cook at home.

The problem I have with tipping is that servers expect it no matter what they do good or bad. I'd rather the restaurant just pay people a living wage because I'm tired of hearing about tipping. However, then you'd probably get into the whole would they still provide good service if their pay didn't depend on it blah blah blah....don't know why I commented at all now haha

/would still cook at home unless it's a special occasion or a business thing
 
2012-09-19 10:38:29 PM

The Whore Of Mensa: LordOfThePings: [starwrecked.com image 850x478]

okay, what movie is this? sorry-- just don't know.


L.A. Story
 
2012-09-19 10:38:51 PM
Always a lot of butthurt when it comes to the tip.
 
2012-09-19 10:39:02 PM

super_grass: You end up paying the server either way.

Man up and let someone earn a living wage.


they should man up, get an education and get a real job
 
2012-09-19 10:39:11 PM

skullkrusher: Markoff_Cheney: ive worked a ton in the service industry and 20% is still mandatory for me unless the server is absolutely awful.
in which case i tip more just to try to make their day better. i know its not my job to do so, but you would have no idea how much it can turn someones day around to get an excessive tip when they know they gave shiat service.
but i have never faulted people or got angry over a 10 to 15% tip, thats just some peoples standards.
its getting stiffed completely that incites rage.

/insert racist service industry joke here, possibly about 'canadians'

Canadians are really bad tippers. Especially the black ones.


i0.kym-cdn.com
 
2012-09-19 10:40:51 PM

Markoff_Cheney: skullkrusher: Markoff_Cheney: ive worked a ton in the service industry and 20% is still mandatory for me unless the server is absolutely awful.
in which case i tip more just to try to make their day better. i know its not my job to do so, but you would have no idea how much it can turn someones day around to get an excessive tip when they know they gave shiat service.
but i have never faulted people or got angry over a 10 to 15% tip, thats just some peoples standards.
its getting stiffed completely that incites rage.

/insert racist service industry joke here, possibly about 'canadians'

Canadians are really bad tippers. Especially the black ones.

[i0.kym-cdn.com image 380x288]


yes.

/thatsthejoke.jpg
//I know white people slang
 
2012-09-19 10:41:08 PM
Unless I'm in a large party or with people doing separate checks, I ask them to remove the auto-tip. If I'm tipping, it will depend on your level of service. If it is included, just include it in the farking price.


/What happens if you do a negative tip amount?
 
2012-09-19 10:41:14 PM

Snapper Carr: You're Abe Froman? The Sausage King of Chicago?"


Yep, that's me.

i49.tinypic.com
 
2012-09-19 10:42:03 PM
I tip 20% if the meal and service are what should be expected. I tip less if the waitress/waiter screws up and doesn't make any effort to make things right. There are a couple of waitresses I almost always over tip. They aren't typical.

I won't do business with a restaurant that automatically includes a 20% tip in the check. How much I tip is my choice, not yours. If you're going to do that, then raise your farking prices 20% and put DO NOT TIP on the front door so I can decide BEFORE I enter if I'm going to bless you with my business.
 
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