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(Today)   "Welcome to the House of Pretension; I am Jean-Paul, your waiter. Today's specials include carpaccio of Maldivian yellow fin tuna, free-range organic brown wild duck breast stuffed with Israeli pearl couscous, and a 25% tip"   (bites.today.com) divider line 233
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2012-09-19 11:12:01 PM
skullkrusher: Markoff_Cheney: skullkrusher: Markoff_Cheney: skullkrusher: Markoff_Cheney: skullkrusher: Markoff_Cheney:

that's ok, I don't have a penis.

and for the second time in one day
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Smeggy Smurf: Tip the chef. They have a marketable skill.

they get paid a livable wage.

ok, that was lie


you are right. they can pay rent and car insurance, but they sure as hell arent making what they are worth to the company in many restaurants.
they should make more, but they make enough to live, so that part is not a lie.
and compared to the paycheck pittance that servers make without tips....
 
2012-09-19 11:13:00 PM
Cyno01: jmr61: I have no problem with a 25% tip if the service and food is excellent.

But I want it to be my choice.

KrispyKritter: the Poughkeepsie area is home to a lot of wonderful restaurants as the Culinary Institute of America is not far. there is lots of very well trained chefs that know how to staff an eatery that makes for a lovely dining experience. good food and good wait staff gets good tips.

if my fat face is happy the minimum is 18%. a attentive server with a nice smile and a good personality may get 50% or more. you make my day, i'll make yours.


The waitstaff have little to no bearing on the quality of the food aside from temperature possibly. Cooks make at least a bit above minimum wage and dont see any of that tip money. Tip for service, and if the kitchen farks up your food, dont take it out on your server unless theyre unapologetic, take it up with the manager.

I was at a burger place one time and ordered sweet potato fries instead of regular. Few minutes later, our food came out, sans my fries. The server apologized profusely and said they would be up in just another minute. Well, a few minutes later, she comes back again without my fries, obviously terribly embarrassed, she doesnt know what the problem is in the kitchen, she said she was told they would be going in the fryer next. I guess they were in the weeds and sweet potato fries were an uncommon enough order that they always had to be done a la minute. A few minutes later, she comes back, still no fries, by this time ive finished my burger, everyone else has finished their food, were all sorta just sitting around waiting for my fries. She says shes already talked to her manager and my meal has been comped. She provided awesome service, and still got a good tip because it wasnt her farkup.


Bullshiat... she prolly didn't fire the order correctly, then blames it on the cooks, who can't defend themselves...

/former cook
//this shiat happened ALL the time... "I forgot to fire back this well done filet... can you put a rush on that for me?" *goes back out to table* "The kitchen is real backed up, it's going to be a few more minutes..."
 
2012-09-19 11:13:07 PM
crabsno termites: Summoner101: crabsno termites: Summoner101: crabsno termites: 15% for average service, 20% if you are good. Nothing if you are a dick/

What if they're a dick at Dick's?

Dick for them, then.

Hint: Dick's restaurants have wait staff that are purposefully dickish

Live on the far side of the country. Don't know dick about dick's dick waiters

/like where this is going.


Dick's dickish dicks are expectantly dickish, more dickish than your average dick but less so than particularly giant dicks. Their dickishness is more for performance dicking than your run-of-the-mill dick just being a dick. In essence, their dickfulness is something to be admired and enjoyed rather than becoming a retaliatory dick.

/How many until I have a bagful?
 
2012-09-19 11:14:55 PM
TofuTheAlmighty: Tipping threads - for those who like internet conflagrations but hate contemplating genital cutting.

I can tell by your attitude that you support the baby-killers at Planned Parenthood.

And probably drink mass-produced canned domestic lagers.
 
2012-09-19 11:14:57 PM
Markoff_Cheney: skullkrusher: Markoff_Cheney: skullkrusher: Markoff_Cheney: skullkrusher: Markoff_Cheney: skullkrusher: Markoff_Cheney:

you are right. they can pay rent and car insurance, but they sure as hell arent making what they are worth to the company in many restaurants.
they should make more, but they make enough to live, so that part is not a lie.
and compared to the paycheck pittance that servers make without tips....


i really didnt word this right, but i dont care because i am drunk.
yes, they dont make enough for the service rendered, but compared to the servers and bartenders they can live off of their checks and not tips.
 
2012-09-19 11:15:06 PM
Summoner101: crabsno termites: Summoner101: crabsno termites: Summoner101: crabsno termites: 15% for average service, 20% if you are good. Nothing if you are a dick/

What if they're a dick at Dick's?

Dick for them, then.

Hint: Dick's restaurants have wait staff that are purposefully dickish

Live on the far side of the country. Don't know dick about dick's dick waiters

/like where this is going.

Dick's dickish dicks are expectantly dickish, more dickish than your average dick but less so than particularly giant dicks. Their dickishness is more for performance dicking than your run-of-the-mill dick just being a dick. In essence, their dickfulness is something to be admired and enjoyed rather than becoming a retaliatory dick.

/How many until I have a bagful?


Your name Dick?
 
2012-09-19 11:15:14 PM
sage37: As a waiter at an 'upscale casual' restaurant, when I get a 25% tip I'm ecstatic. Most people tip take pity on me and give me charity for work I didn't actually perform/performed only basic service minus the golden plated blowjob, somewhere between 15-20%. 

FTFM
 
2012-09-19 11:15:17 PM
Cyno01: wotthefark: I only tip whores.

You know if youre paying them for it, it can be more than just the tip.


Posts like this make me wish I could click "Funny" more than once.
 
2012-09-19 11:15:26 PM
15%, not including tax, is both my standard and floor percentage. And most of the time also my ceiling.

/if an antisocial retard got a real job, why can't you?
//owned
 
2012-09-19 11:15:34 PM
Summoner101: crabsno termites: Summoner101: crabsno termites: Summoner101: crabsno termites: 15% for average service, 20% if you are good. Nothing if you are a dick/

What if they're a dick at Dick's?

Dick for them, then.

Hint: Dick's restaurants have wait staff that are purposefully dickish

Live on the far side of the country. Don't know dick about dick's dick waiters

/like where this is going.

Dick's dickish dicks are expectantly dickish, more dickish than your average dick but less so than particularly giant dicks. Their dickishness is more for performance dicking than your run-of-the-mill dick just being a dick. In essence, their dickfulness is something to be admired and enjoyed rather than becoming a retaliatory dick.

/How many until I have a bagful?


//Dick!!
 
2012-09-19 11:16:38 PM
crabsno termites: Summoner101: crabsno termites: Summoner101: crabsno termites: Summoner101: crabsno termites: 15% for average service, 20% if you are good. Nothing if you are a dick/

What if they're a dick at Dick's?

Dick for them, then.

Hint: Dick's restaurants have wait staff that are purposefully dickish

Live on the far side of the country. Don't know dick about dick's dick waiters

/like where this is going.

Dick's dickish dicks are expectantly dickish, more dickish than your average dick but less so than particularly giant dicks. Their dickishness is more for performance dicking than your run-of-the-mill dick just being a dick. In essence, their dickfulness is something to be admired and enjoyed rather than becoming a retaliatory dick.

/How many until I have a bagful?

Your name Dick?


No, but I did once know a man named Richard Peter Johnson.
 
2012-09-19 11:16:48 PM
Gurlugon: 15%, not including tax, is both my standard and floor percentage. And most of the time also my ceiling.

/if an antisocial retard got a real job, why can't you?
//owned


Yourself?
 
2012-09-19 11:17:23 PM
exvaxman: I always leave cash for a tip so it does not have to be declared. I usually start at 20% and work downward depending on service. Worst tip I ever left was a penny at Berghoff's in chicago. The waiter thought he would embarras me by running out of the place and in a loud voice going "you forgot this sir". My reply in an even louder tone "no, that was all you were worth" had lots of people applauding on the street.

Awesome, you facilitate tax fraud, you farking douche.
 
2012-09-19 11:18:03 PM
Summoner101: crabsno termites: Summoner101: crabsno termites: Summoner101: crabsno termites: Summoner101: crabsno termites: 15% for average service, 20% if you are good. Nothing if you are a dick/

What if they're a dick at Dick's?

Dick for them, then.

Hint: Dick's restaurants have wait staff that are purposefully dickish

Live on the far side of the country. Don't know dick about dick's dick waiters

/like where this is going.

Dick's dickish dicks are expectantly dickish, more dickish than your average dick but less so than particularly giant dicks. Their dickishness is more for performance dicking than your run-of-the-mill dick just being a dick. In essence, their dickfulness is something to be admired and enjoyed rather than becoming a retaliatory dick.

/How many until I have a bagful?

Your name Dick?

No, but I did once know a man named Richard Peter Johnson.


Snert. You win.
 
2012-09-19 11:19:23 PM
As someone who has worked and currently works in the restaurant industry, they are quite a few misconceptions in this thread. I've used the service industry to pay for college and to supplement my income for my little girl.

1) Almost anywhere in the SE your waiter is making $2.13 hour. I'm not sure about the rest of the country.

2) If you have excellent service it is most often because the server take pride in his or her job and truly values your business. You may not believe this but some folks actually enjoy some if their customers and don't just view them with money sign.

3) With shiatty service leave 10%. Tell a manager. Good server/bartenders want these people gone as much as you do. Any good owner or manager shouldn't tolerate poor service. Go back and get poor service do not return.

4) Added gratuity should on;y be added for parties of 8 or more. Even then it's implied and shouldn't be required.
 
2012-09-19 11:21:23 PM
BuckTurgidson: I can tell by your attitude that you support the baby-killers at Planned Parenthood.

True.

And probably drink mass-produced canned domestic lagers.

Why not accuse me of anally raping your mother while pouring sugar in your gas tank?
 
2012-09-19 11:22:31 PM
stonicus: Bullshiat... she prolly didn't fire the order correctly, then blames it on the cooks, who can't defend themselves...

/former cook
//this shiat happened ALL the time... "I forgot to fire back this well done filet... can you put a rush on that for me?" *goes back out to table* "The kitchen is real backed up, it's going to be a few more minutes..."


Also a cook, no way it takes 25+ minutes to get something fried if its just the servers fault. If shed just forgotten, my burger would have come out with regular fries like everyone elses in the party instead of with no fries at all.
 
2012-09-19 11:22:59 PM
machodonkeywrestler: Gurlugon: 15%, not including tax, is both my standard and floor percentage. And most of the time also my ceiling.

/if an antisocial retard got a real job, why can't you?
//owned

Yourself?


I'm proud of my antisocial retardation. A quiz I took online that's as good as a doctor's diagnosis bestowed me the title of "high functioning."
 
2012-09-19 11:23:58 PM
stonicus: OhioUGrad: I'll tip on drinks.....food I'll cook at home.

The problem I have with tipping is that servers expect it no matter what they do good or bad. I'd rather the restaurant just pay people a living wage because I'm tired of hearing about tipping. However, then you'd probably get into the whole would they still provide good service if their pay didn't depend on it blah blah blah....don't know why I commented at all now haha

Here's a crazy idea... treat them like the cooks, and busboys, and prep cooks, and dishwashers, and managers, and hostesses... do your job right or your farking fired! Why is that so hard to process?


That would be nice, but you'd have to start with them getting paid a living wage first, and I don't see that happening any time soon since the food industry seems to be doing just fine how it is (minus the rage any time tipping comes up)
 
2012-09-19 11:24:25 PM
Gurlugon: machodonkeywrestler: Gurlugon: 15%, not including tax, is both my standard and floor percentage. And most of the time also my ceiling.

/if an antisocial retard got a real job, why can't you?
//owned

Yourself?

I'm proud of my antisocial retardation. A quiz I took online that's as good as a doctor's diagnosis bestowed me the title of "high functioning."


Just wondering. I too trend that way, although my people manipulation skills more than make up for it.
 
Oak
2012-09-19 11:24:45 PM
15%, adjusted up or down a bit. But 15%.
 
2012-09-19 11:26:35 PM
I would say bring on the duck and fark your tip
 
2012-09-19 11:32:52 PM
This thread makes me feel very fortunate. I typically eat out at a sit down restaurant at least once a week, and have never had "bad" service from a server.

I've had mediocre service a few times, mostly due to the place just being incredibly busy, but nothing below that.

But...I treat my server with respect and friendliness.
 
2012-09-19 11:33:24 PM
Had free-range organic wild blue-winged teal breast tonight, so getting a kick.
 
2012-09-19 11:36:55 PM
I was a waitress at a truck stop diner for awhile. This was a long time ago, so my wage was 2.15 an hour. In addition to waiting tables, I also had to be my own bus boy. It was rough at times, especially nights where people kept flooding in when I was the only waitress on duty.

One night the grill went out and it took the cook around 45 minutes to fix it. I felt bad for the family still waiting on their food, so I paid for their meal out of my tips for that day. It came close to $40, pretty much all of my tips.

/CSB
 
2012-09-19 11:37:00 PM
crabsno termites: Summoner101: crabsno termites: Summoner101: crabsno termites: 15% for average service, 20% if you are good. Nothing if you are a dick/

What if they're a dick at Dick's?

Dick for them, then.

Hint: Dick's restaurants have wait staff that are purposefully dickish

Live on the far side of the country. Don't know dick about dick's dick waiters

/like where this is going.


You don't know Dick,do you?
 
2012-09-19 11:38:07 PM
Obligatory:

Link

/The More You Know
 
2012-09-19 11:40:25 PM
McTruckin: As someone who has worked and currently works in the restaurant industry, they are quite a few misconceptions in this thread. I've used the service industry to pay for college and to supplement my income for my little girl.

1) Almost anywhere in the SE your waiter is making $2.13 hour. I'm not sure about the rest of the country.


This is the problem with tipping nowadays. Employers use it to pay their servers shiat wages and then expect the rest of us to pick up the slack. Tipping has gone from a show of appreciation for good service to a guilt trip.
 
2012-09-19 11:43:37 PM
I tip around 20% on drinks, I know I don't have to but my bartenders know I'm there to drink so they tend to make sure my drink doesn't run dry. This is important to me when the bar is packed and there's a band playing.

I'm willing to drop some coin on really good food & really good service, but I will take crappy table service out of the tip, and there have been times where I left no tip because the service was that bad. If the waitress tries to biatch about it to the bartender I'm sure he'd say "What the hell did you do? She always tips well."

Can anybody explain to me why waitresses aren't paid by the owner of the establishment? There's such a huge mark up on food, I don't really understand why I'm tipping more based on the cost of the food to me. The bartender is an artist, a mixologist, a damn multi tasking magician. The waitress is just carrying plates, regardless of what's on the plates, she is still just carrying plates.
 
2012-09-19 11:45:08 PM
BuckTurgidson: TofuTheAlmighty: Tipping threads - for those who like internet conflagrations but hate contemplating genital cutting.

I can tell by your attitude that you support the baby-killers at Planned Parenthood.

And probably drink mass-produced canned domestic lagers.


You mean to tell me, General Turgidson, that you are unable to consume domestic lagers?
 
2012-09-19 11:46:20 PM
i write pretty sophisticated code and i get $50 / hr salary and $100- $200 / hr contract. why the fark should someone moving plates around a room make more than $20 / hr ?
 
2012-09-19 11:46:55 PM
Well as long as we are asked to tip bigger, how about 100%? 150%? Why not price the riff raff out of the joint? We already go out less because it is too damn expensive.
 
2012-09-19 11:48:59 PM
Mimic_Octopus: i write pretty sophisticated code and i get $50 / hr salary and $100- $200 / hr contract. why the fark should someone moving plates around a room make more than $20 / hr ?

10 PRINT "Weiners and Gonads!!! ";
20 GOTO 10
 
2012-09-19 11:49:28 PM
Cyno01: Considering the value of a dollar and how the actual minimum wage is just about the lowest ever, tip creep is inevitable if waiters are to earn a livable wage.

why should waiters earn a livable wage ? it is kid's work. waiting tables is part time shiat you do while working on a career or other schooling /in between jobs. it is not intended to be, in itself, a career.
 
2012-09-19 11:51:22 PM
Mimic_Octopus: Cyno01: Considering the value of a dollar and how the actual minimum wage is just about the lowest ever, tip creep is inevitable if waiters are to earn a livable wage.

why should waiters earn a livable wage ? it is kid's work. waiting tables is part time shiat you do while working on a career or other schooling /in between jobs. it is not intended to be, in itself, a career.


You can say this about a lot of jobs. So where do you draw the line? Not everyone can be a professional.
 
2012-09-19 11:52:38 PM
25% is in the range of what I will tip.

so is 0%
 
2012-09-19 11:53:02 PM
Mimic_Octopus: why should waiters earn a livable wage ?

It's called civility and society. Look them up sometime.
 
2012-09-19 11:54:21 PM
25% ?!?! What do you think I am, a king?
 
2012-09-19 11:55:12 PM
i always pay 20%. at a hotel i leave at least 20$ for the cleaning staff. If I am eating at a 4* restaurant i would expect to pay 20-25%
I will generally over tip when the bill is under 20$. I usually can tell how many turns the business does by the time I have finished my meal 25-30% if they are slow .
I don't know what all the fuss is about . I would think that if anyone gave a dime or some insulting tip they should go to eat at the Walmart and behave like the locust at the free sample booth. Life is too short to be such a cheapskate enjoy a meal and quit being miserable.
 
2012-09-19 11:56:00 PM
crabsno termites: Summoner101: crabsno termites: Summoner101: crabsno termites: 15% for average service, 20% if you are good. Nothing if you are a dick/

What if they're a dick at Dick's?

Dick for them, then.

Hint: Dick's restaurants have wait staff that are purposefully dickish

Live on the far side of the country. Don't know dick about dick's dick waiters

/like where this is going.


Where this is going:

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www.meh.ro
 
2012-09-19 11:57:32 PM
felixecho: Well as long as we are asked to tip bigger, how about 100%? 150%? Why not price the riff raff out of the joint? We already go out less because it is too damn expensive.

The industry clearly pushed tipping to offset their labor costs and point their employees attention at their customers. But ive seen so many places close in the last few years, even alot of places that had real pottentional. It seems even corporate joints go up and are out in 2 years. I wonder if we've hit the "tipping point" (zing!) On how much we can gouge customers. Drinks is another area, state liquor liscenses seem to have pushed the cost of a drink to several orders of magnitude over what it costs at the store.

Sorry, but if im going out to some suburban burger joint i dont want to feel compelled that i need to pay like im a saudi prince in a miami nightclub. At the rate we're going i fully expect old fashioned speak easies to become a nationwide phenememon. This shiat is rediculous.
 
2012-09-19 11:59:31 PM
In Oregon waitstaff cannot be paid less than $8.80 hour, the state's minimum wage. Some restaurants choose to pay their employees more than that. Either way I tip a minimum of 20%, but I have gone higher for exceptional service. There have been a few rare occasions where I have tipped less, but in those cases it has been the bad attitude or behavior of the person waiting on me. The last time this happened to me the waitress frequently spoke to me in a very condescending manner and actually scolded me because I didn't eat everything I ordered.

On the other hand I never base my tip on things out of the waitstaff's control, such as foul-ups by the kitchen staff.

Now I know some restaurants add a set tip amount to the bill for groups of 6 or more (usually 18% in my area), but I expect the latter and most menus have that information on them.
 
2012-09-20 12:01:27 AM
WhyteRaven74: Mimic_Octopus: why should waiters earn a livable wage ?

It's called civility and society. Look them up sometime.


yes, so work as a waiter when young, have some roommates, work on a business plan, get a loan and open your own restaurant, hire kids to do what you did then get your own place and no roommates. Oh wait, most waiters want 25% so they can go binge drink and buy coke after work every day into their 40's.

/worked in over 20 restaurants, still have friends that are drunken coked up servers and cooks.
 
2012-09-20 12:03:35 AM
TofuTheAlmighty: BuckTurgidson: I can tell by your attitude that you support the baby-killers at Planned Parenthood.

True.

And probably drink mass-produced canned domestic lagers.

Why not accuse me of anally raping your mother while pouring sugar in your gas tank?


That was YOU?

Personally, when I enter a restaurant, my default "tip" for the server is a sharp jab in their lazy f*cking mug. It's up to them to improve the bargain.
 
2012-09-20 12:05:00 AM
Pincy: Mimic_Octopus: Cyno01: Considering the value of a dollar and how the actual minimum wage is just about the lowest ever, tip creep is inevitable if waiters are to earn a livable wage.

why should waiters earn a livable wage ? it is kid's work. waiting tables is part time shiat you do while working on a career or other schooling /in between jobs. it is not intended to be, in itself, a career.

You can say this about a lot of jobs. So where do you draw the line? Not everyone can be a professional.


Why dont we tip everyone?
 
2012-09-20 12:05:46 AM
President Merkin Muffley: BuckTurgidson: TofuTheAlmighty: Tipping threads - for those who like internet conflagrations but hate contemplating genital cutting.

I can tell by your attitude that you support the baby-killers at Planned Parenthood.

And probably drink mass-produced canned domestic lagers.

You mean to tell me, General Turgidson, that you are unable to consume domestic lagers?


Well, I don't think it's quite fair to condemn a whole program because of a single slip-up, sir.
 
2012-09-20 12:06:10 AM
I can't wait for robot waiters.
 
2012-09-20 12:06:19 AM
ChuDogg: Pincy: Mimic_Octopus: Cyno01: Considering the value of a dollar and how the actual minimum wage is just about the lowest ever, tip creep is inevitable if waiters are to earn a livable wage.

why should waiters earn a livable wage ? it is kid's work. waiting tables is part time shiat you do while working on a career or other schooling /in between jobs. it is not intended to be, in itself, a career.

You can say this about a lot of jobs. So where do you draw the line? Not everyone can be a professional.

Why dont we tip everyone?


also, no matter how you slice it, manual labor is not worth several hundred dollars per shift.
 
2012-09-20 12:07:35 AM
www.eatmedaily.com
 
2012-09-20 12:08:05 AM
Mimic_Octopus: WhyteRaven74: Mimic_Octopus: why should waiters earn a livable wage ?

It's called civility and society. Look them up sometime.

yes, so work as a waiter when young, have some roommates, work on a business plan, get a loan and open your own restaurant, hire kids to do what you did then get your own place and no roommates. Oh wait, most waiters want 25% so they can go binge drink and buy coke after work every day into their 40's.

/worked in over 20 restaurants, still have friends that are drunken coked up servers and cooks.


I know a lot of waiters who loved the job because "they got paid every day", which I gotta admit, 4 days before payday when I was broke, that perk sounded nice.
 
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