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(Balloon Juice)   "I'm the President of the United States, not the President of the people who agree with me." What Mitt Romney can learn from Jed Bartlett   (balloon-juice.com) divider line 138
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2012-09-19 06:49:21 PM
Pres. Bartlet: ...restoring abundance amid an economic shortfall, securing peace in a time of global conflict, sustaining hope in this winter of anxiety and fear. More than any time in recent history, America's destiny is not of our own choosing. We did not seek nor did we provoke an assault on our freedom and our way of life. We did not expect nor did we invite a confrontation with evil. Yet the true measure of a people's strength is how they rise to master that moment when it does arrive. Forty-four people were killed a couple of hours ago at Kennison State University. Three swimmers from the men's team were killed and two others are in critical condition, when, after having heard the explosion from their practice facility, they ran into the fire to help get people out. Ran into the fire. The streets of heaven are too crowded with angels tonight. They're our students and our teachers and our parents and our friends. The streets of heaven are too crowded with angels, but every time we think we have measured our capacity to meet a challenge, we look up and we're reminded that that capacity may well be limitless. This is a time for American heroes. We will do what is hard. We will achieve what is great. This is a time for American heroes and we reach for the stars. God bless their memory, God bless you and God bless the United States of America. Thank you.

Bruno Gianelli: When did you write that last part?

Sam Seaborn: In the car.

Bruno Gianelli: [pause] Freak.
 
2012-09-19 06:51:42 PM

randomjsa: As opposed to Obama, who is the president of payouts to people who support him.


Bless your heart.
 
2012-09-19 06:53:27 PM
""I'm the President of the United States, not the President of the people who agree with me.""

Yeah. Considering how many folks on the left I heard say that Bush was not "their" president, this seems somewhat, ironic? Does that fit here?
 
2012-09-19 06:56:36 PM

tomWright: ""I'm the President of the United States, not the President of the people who agree with me.""

Yeah. Considering how many folks on the left I heard say that Bush was not "their" president, this seems somewhat, ironic? Does that fit here?


And there are at least an equal number of people saying Obama isn't "their" President...Hell, there's a sizable chunk of Republicans who claim Obama isn't even American.

There are wingnuts on both sides. Republicans just happen to elect theirs.
 
2012-09-19 06:57:16 PM
We need a West Wing reunion movie where all the members of the Bartlett administration get together, post 9/11, and head up the post-secesssion USA, where Texas is the capital of the rogue states, which include all the traditional confederate ones. Jed crushes the rebellion.
 
2012-09-19 06:59:17 PM

tomWright: ""I'm the President of the United States, not the President of the people who agree with me.""

Yeah. Considering how many folks on the left I heard say that Bush was not "their" president, this seems somewhat, ironic? Does that fit here?


Not really Tom. I hear the same from the right; more so even. It's also a completely different set of circumstances. Nice try though. Time for bed, sport.
 
2012-09-19 07:01:00 PM

tomWright: ""I'm the President of the United States, not the President of the people who agree with me.""

Yeah. Considering how many folks on the left I heard say that Bush was not "their" president, this seems somewhat, ironic? Does that fit here?


This clip isn't about voters like that, because like LordJiro said there are people who say the same thing about President Obama. This is about how the President responds to those people, and if he will show respect and compassion toward them, or denigrate them as people who don't want to take responsibility for their own lives.
 
2012-09-19 07:01:52 PM

HotIgneous Intruder: We need a West Wing reunion movie where all the members of the Bartlett administration get together, post 9/11, and head up the post-secesssion USA, where Texas is the capital of the rogue states, which include all the traditional confederate ones. Jed crushes the rebellion.


Zombie Leo leading the charge, back in a fighter jet!
 
2012-09-19 07:06:04 PM

tomWright: ""I'm the President of the United States, not the President of the people who agree with me.""

Yeah. Considering how many folks on the left I heard say that Bush was not "their" president, this seems somewhat, ironic? Does that fit here?


Well, the courts put him in power in 2000, and 2004 was riddled with exit poll issues and he lost the popular vote. That's on top of the debt, starting wars, domestic spying and state sponsored torture.

I'm surprised anyone claims the guy.
 
2012-09-19 07:06:11 PM

tomWright: ""I'm the President of the United States, not the President of the people who agree with me.""

Yeah. Considering how many folks on the left I heard say that Bush was not "their" president, this seems somewhat, ironic? Does that fit here?


I think a lot of that came from the fact that he didn't actually get the most votes in that election and a lot of people thought he was handed the election by the court.

But the above statement is about the mentality of the President, not the governed. The President still has to be the President of people who say he's not their President. He can't just say it's not his "job to worry about those people." It's his job to worry about everyone.
 
2012-09-19 07:07:53 PM
Link

/Shakes head
 
2012-09-19 07:07:59 PM

HotIgneous Intruder: We need a West Wing reunion movie where all the members of the Bartlett administration get together, post 9/11, and head up the post-secesssion USA, where Texas is the capital of the rogue states, which include all the traditional confederate ones. Jed crushes the rebellion.


4.bp.blogspot.com

with one swift stroke?
 
2012-09-19 07:08:50 PM

randomjsa: As opposed to Obama, who is the president of payouts to people who support him.


So Romney is going to remove these "redistribution" like Social Security, Medicare, Public Schools?

Please tell us. Or are you just full of crap?
 
2012-09-19 07:10:34 PM
I bought the boxed set a few months ago. I'm up to season five. It's amazing how the series anticipated contemporary politics.
 
2012-09-19 07:11:40 PM

tomWright: ""I'm the President of the United States, not the President of the people who agree with me.""

Yeah. Considering how many folks on the left I heard say that Bush was not "their" president, this seems somewhat, ironic? Does that fit here?


If this had been an exercise in missing the point, you would have done very well. But this isn't about the people disowning the the guy they didn't vote for, it's about how the President treats the country as a whole, including those who don't agree with him.
 
2012-09-19 07:16:19 PM
Don't know what Rmoney's take away might be, but I learned about Johnnie Walker Blue from WW.
 
2012-09-19 07:19:20 PM
Hey, West Wing fans ... remember that one episode where the office chick wore a Starfleet insignia to work in the White House, and Josh thought is was inappropriate, and she said 'but it represents my ideals', and he said 'yeah, but you're fetishizing it, so don't wear it to work'?

Yeah, stop fetishizing The West Wing.

It's nice to think of a government full of enlightened, Nobel-Prize-winning, witty characters that can recall Ivy League trivia, have the US Code memorized, and have a genuine love and concern for the great People of the United States ...

... but in REALITY, government is made of sniveling, greedy, talentless, unproductive, power-lusting nobodies who care about their and pensions and their little fiefdoms than they do anyone or anything else. Their sole motivation is to protect their own employment at whatever social or economic cost it takes. This is the way it has always been with giant governments, and the way it will always be. Conservative or liberal, male or female, black or white, government is where people who produce nothing of value go to get fat paychecks to sit around and f*ck sh*t up through negligence, incompetence, and corruption.

West Wing, like Star Trek was a fun fantasy, but it's never going to come true.
 
2012-09-19 07:20:06 PM
I always liked this dialog from the Hartsfield Landing episode



TOBY:
Then make this election about smart, and not... Make it about engaged, and not. Qualified, and not. Make it about a heavyweight. You're a heavyweight. 
 
2012-09-19 07:21:04 PM

AdolfOliverPanties: Via Infinito: I have never watched The West Wing and I'm starting to think that's a damned shame.

I just started watching on AmazonPrime (and they need a better media player.) I didn't catch on to the original run until about the third season. Damn this was good stuff.


I added it t my prime cue as well. Hopefully once more content is added I can't get rid of Netflix.
 
2012-09-19 07:22:00 PM

whidbey: So, what if Mitt Romney actually wins this election?

What then?


We get to be "I told you so" trolls for four years.
 
2012-09-19 07:24:34 PM

randomjsa: Arf! Arf! Arf! Arf! Arf! Arf! Arf! Arf! Woof! Woof! Arf! Arf! Arf! Arf!


Well done, sir.
 
2012-09-19 07:26:00 PM

Lernaeus: West Wing, like Star Trek was a fun fantasy, but it's never going to come true.


There's a reason it was called *Liberal Porn.* I imagine he got a lot of letters that started out *Dear Sorkin, I never thought this would happen to me, but.*
 
2012-09-19 07:28:42 PM

Daveism: My dear wife recently bought me the boxed set- all the seasons... A ludicrous amount of money, but it's a very nice product, and I've got her hooked like a crackhead- we're averaging a couple of episodes a night.

/want so badly to vote Bartlett...
//love the rants and beatdowns


I CAN'T WAIT! I didn't think it was a crazy amount of money though. Amazon had the complete series for $140.
 
2012-09-19 07:30:00 PM

Via Infinito: AdolfOliverPanties: Via Infinito: I have never watched The West Wing and I'm starting to think that's a damned shame.

I just started watching on AmazonPrime (and they need a better media player.) I didn't catch on to the original run until about the third season. Damn this was good stuff.

DAMMIT NETFLIX! I can watch Vampire Diaries and Ancient f*cking Aliens but The West Wing isn't streaming? I guess I'll look into the Amazon thing. *sigh*


Netflix automatically delists anything good.
 
2012-09-19 07:32:56 PM

sdd2000: I always liked this dialog from the Hartsfield Landing episode



TOBY:
Then make this election about smart, and not... Make it about engaged, and not. Qualified, and not. Make it about a heavyweight. You're a heavyweight.



Rmoney's been Brolin this whole time. Someday I'd REALLY like to know what Obama's *Crime. Boy. I don't know* straw was . . . My money's on waaay before the MJ vids, even if they seem convenient references right now.
 
2012-09-19 07:33:08 PM
I prefer The Thick Of It and Yes Minister for my TV politicians.
/Veep is okay too.
 
2012-09-19 07:34:47 PM

thisispete: I bought the boxed set a few months ago. I'm up to season five. It's amazing how the series anticipated contemporary politics.


Worth knowing is that Sorkin was basing characters in the series off political operators he saw and knew. Any time you think Josh throws elbows in a familiar way, remember that he's based on Rahm Emanuel.
 
2012-09-19 07:36:08 PM

TalenLee: thisispete: I bought the boxed set a few months ago. I'm up to season five. It's amazing how the series anticipated contemporary politics.

Worth knowing is that Sorkin was basing characters in the series off political operators he saw and knew. Any time you think Josh throws elbows in a familiar way, remember that he's based on Rahm Emanuel.


And Matt Santos was based on Obama.
 
2012-09-19 07:39:45 PM
Can Obama speak Latin?
 
2012-09-19 07:45:11 PM

Shadow Blasko: Can Obama speak Latin?


All lawyers speak Latin.
 
2012-09-19 07:46:41 PM
"dinch: That's so cute. Let me tussle your hair"


"Tussle" does not equal "tousle". Derisive humor plays better when you don't make errors that detract from you being, you know, derisive.
 
2012-09-19 07:48:28 PM

DamnYankees: And Matt Santos was based on Obama.


I didn't think Matt came up until season six, hence not mentioning him. *glassespush*
 
2012-09-19 07:50:20 PM

tomWright: ""I'm the President of the United States, not the President of the people who agree with me.""

Yeah. Considering how many folks on the left I heard say that Bush was not "their" president, this seems somewhat, ironic? Does that fit here?


No. Somehow you managed to get that completely backwards.

See, the reason lefties were saying that is because he wasn't acting like their president. In fact, I seem to recall him talking about a "mandate" for his policies, when he had only won by such slim margins, instead of following a path of compromise that might have been suggested by the close election.

Hell, I'm a libby-lefty and I gave him my support and respect after 9/11. It was as great of an opportunity to be everyone's president as any. It's a shame he pissed it all away on unnecessary wars and intrusive security measures.
 
2012-09-19 07:50:41 PM

Lernaeus: Hey, West Wing fans ... remember that one episode where the office chick wore a Starfleet insignia to work in the White House, and Josh thought is was inappropriate, and she said 'but it represents my ideals', and he said 'yeah, but you're fetishizing it, so don't wear it to work'?

Yeah, stop fetishizing The West Wing.

It's nice to think of a government full of enlightened, Nobel-Prize-winning, witty characters that can recall Ivy League trivia, have the US Code memorized, and have a genuine love and concern for the great People of the United States ...

... but in REALITY, government is made of sniveling, greedy, talentless, unproductive, power-lusting nobodies who care about their and pensions and their little fiefdoms than they do anyone or anything else. Their sole motivation is to protect their own employment at whatever social or economic cost it takes. This is the way it has always been with giant governments, and the way it will always be. Conservative or liberal, male or female, black or white, government is where people who produce nothing of value go to get fat paychecks to sit around and f*ck sh*t up through negligence, incompetence, and corruption.

West Wing, like Star Trek was a fun fantasy, but it's never going to come true.



You don't have dreams of a "grand future" that you work towards? You must become the change you seek.
 
2012-09-19 07:56:55 PM
Veep is better. I said it.

The West Wing is a good show with clever dialogue but it was ultimately a left-wing masturbatory fantasy of how government should work and it's produced a generation of liberals who think the government actually *does* work that way and get frustrated that Obama can't run his administration the same way a fictional character did.

Veep portrays the way DC actually works so much better. The petty undercurrent, the brown-nosing/arrogant staffers, the career climbers. Jonah and Ben are the worst and I know lots of people here JUST LIKE THEM. The changing priorities from above and the scrambling to adjust. The deals you have to make. It's so spot on it's scary.

Veep is also made by the same folks who gave us Malcolm Tucker of The Thick of It/In the Loop so you have to watch it now.
 
2012-09-19 07:58:13 PM

WTF Indeed: It was a TV show. Let it go people.


You just lost your Farkie, good sir
 
2012-09-19 08:20:03 PM

Aexia: The West Wing is a good show with clever dialogue but it was ultimately a left-wing masturbatory fantasy


media.tumblr.com
 
2012-09-19 08:30:48 PM
If president Barlett had a son, he would be just like this:
images.sodahead.com
 
2012-09-19 08:31:04 PM

Aexia: The West Wing is a good show with clever dialogue but it was ultimately a left-wing masturbatory fantasy

1.bp.blogspot.com
anongallery.org
 
2012-09-19 08:32:50 PM

ivan: Shadow Blasko: Can Obama speak Latin?

All lawyers speak Latin.


Twenty-seven lawyers in the room, anybody know "post hoc, ergo propter hoc"?
 
2012-09-19 08:34:41 PM

Lernaeus: ... but in REALITY, Board Rooms are made of sniveling, greedy, talentless, unproductive, power-lusting nobodies who care about their and pensions and their little fiefdoms than they do anyone or anything else. Their sole motivation is to protect their own employment at whatever social or economic cost it takes. This is the way it has always been with big businesses, and the way it will always be. Conservative or liberal, male or female, black or white, big business is where people who produce nothing of value go to get fat paychecks to sit around and f*ck sh*t up through negligence, incompetence, and corruption.


And yet, with just 3 little changes, I can make it into a paean to all you love and worship.

funny that
 
2012-09-19 09:01:28 PM

Via Infinito: I have never watched The West Wing and I'm starting to think that's a damned shame.


AdolfOliverPanties: Via Infinito: I have never watched The West Wing and I'm starting to think that's a damned shame.

I just started watching on AmazonPrime (and they need a better media player.) I didn't catch on to the original run until about the third season. Damn this was good stuff.


DamnYankees: Via Infinito: I have never watched The West Wing and I'm starting to think that's a damned shame.

This was always a favorite clip of mine, in terms of West Wing electoral politics: Link


if you didn't know Lawrence O'Donnell was a writer and executive producer for that show.
 
2012-09-19 09:06:37 PM
You're the President of Mr and Mrs Pareto.

It is generally agreed, though, that a proper democratic government doesn't alienate the 47% of people who didn't vote for it. What that means in practice- well, that's why your college has a Political Science department.
 
2012-09-19 09:12:14 PM

Via Infinito: I have never watched The West Wing and I'm starting to think that's a damned shame.


I never watched it first-run, but started watching it a couple weeks ago. I liked Aaron Sorkin's "The Newsroom" well-enough to give it a shot. I'm at the end of season six right now. Season five kinda sucked, but, six rebounds well. Great dialog & characters.
 
2012-09-19 09:17:16 PM

Lernaeus: Hey, West Wing fans ... remember that one episode where the office chick wore a Starfleet insignia to work in the White House, and Josh thought is was inappropriate, and she said 'but it represents my ideals', and he said 'yeah, but you're fetishizing it, so don't wear it to work'?

Yeah, stop fetishizing The West Wing.

It's nice to think of a government full of enlightened, Nobel-Prize-winning, witty characters that can recall Ivy League trivia, have the US Code memorized, and have a genuine love and concern for the great People of the United States ...

... but in REALITY, government is made of sniveling, greedy, talentless, unproductive, power-lusting nobodies who care about their and pensions and their little fiefdoms than they do anyone or anything else. Their sole motivation is to protect their own employment at whatever social or economic cost it takes. This is the way it has always been with giant governments, and the way it will always be. Conservative or liberal, male or female, black or white, government is where people who produce nothing of value go to get fat paychecks to sit around and f*ck sh*t up through negligence, incompetence, and corruption.

West Wing, like Star Trek was a fun fantasy, but it's never going to come true.


You forgot to bring the funny.
 
2012-09-19 09:40:09 PM

DamnYankees: Via Infinito: I have never watched The West Wing and I'm starting to think that's a damned shame.

This was always a favorite clip of mine, in terms of West Wing electoral politics: Link


Here's another relevant one.


Santos: It's true, Republicans have tried to turn 'liberal' into a bad word. Well, liberals ended slavery in this country.
Vinick: A Republican president ended slavery.
Santos: Yes, a liberal Republican. What happened to them? They got run out of your party. What did liberals do that was so offensive to the Republican party? I'll tell you what they did. Liberals got women the right to vote. Liberals got African-Americans the right to vote. Liberals created social security and lifted millions of elderly people out of poverty. Liberals ended segregation. Liberals passed the Civil Rights Act, the Voting Rights Act, Liberals created Medicare. Liberals passed the Clean Air Act, and the Clean Water Act. What did Conservatives do? They opposed every one of those programs. Every one. So when you try to hurl the word 'liberal' at my feet, as if it were dirty, something to run away from, something that I should be ashamed of, it won't work, Senator, because I will pick up that label and wear it as a badge of honor.
 
2012-09-19 09:46:30 PM
rlv.zcache.com
 
2012-09-19 10:00:39 PM

DamnYankees: Via Infinito: I have never watched The West Wing and I'm starting to think that's a damned shame.

This was always a favorite clip of mine, in terms of West Wing electoral politics: Link


I always like another Bruno clip from Season 7 explaining to Vinick why he wants to run a Republican's campaign. It basically amounted to "because you're not them. You're a uniting president, not a dividing one. I want to help a uniter win,"

There's no clip or quotes that I can find, sadly.

Great clip though

/Vinick for President!
 
2012-09-19 10:04:34 PM

GAT_00: God Is My Co-Pirate: How I feel about Obama's chances:

TOBY
No champagne.

BONNIE
We're just getting ready to...

TOBY
Put it down. Everyone in this room let me have your attention, please. The law of our
land mandates that Presidential appointees be confirmed by a majority of the Senate.
A majority being half plus one for a total of what, Ginger?

GINGER
51.

TOBY
51 yea votes is what we see on the screen before a drop of wine is swallowed! Because there's a little thing called what, Bonnie?

BONNIE
Tempting fate?

TOBY
'Tempting fate' is what it's called. [starts collecting champagne glasses from everyone]

You get yelled at when you say things like that. I know, I've had it happen to me.

Assuming victory is the best way to lose.


Sam: You wrote a concession?
Toby: Of course I wrote a concession. What, do you want to tempt the wrath of the... whatever, from high atop the thing?
Sam: No.
Toby: Then go outside, turn around three times and spit. What's the hell is the matter with you?
Sam: It's like, 25 degrees outside.
Toby: Go!
 
2012-09-19 10:12:08 PM

Harry Ovaries: sdd2000: I always liked this dialog from the Hartsfield Landing episode



TOBY:
Then make this election about smart, and not... Make it about engaged, and not. Qualified, and not. Make it about a heavyweight. You're a heavyweight.


Rmoney's been Brolin this whole time. Someday I'd REALLY like to know what Obama's *Crime. Boy. I don't know* straw was . . . My money's on waaay before the MJ vids, even if they seem convenient references right now.


You seemed to have missed that from last week and Libya, didn't you?

/For future reference, Mitt, "Libya, boy, I dunno" is when I decided to kick your ass
 
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