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(CBS News)   Who are the 47% who pay no tax and take no responsibility? "3,000 tax filers with incomes above $2.2 million paid no income taxes"   (cbsnews.com) divider line 347
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2012-09-19 12:32:12 PM
 
2012-09-19 12:40:29 PM
If you're dependent on the government to manipulate the tax code in your favor, provide you amnesty for tax evasion and ignore derivatives fraud then it's a different type of dependent on the government.

Because for this type of dependent on the government you contribute to campaigns.
 
2012-09-19 12:45:28 PM
www.inquisitr.com
Taxes? We 1%-ers don't pay no stinkin' taxes! LOL!!!
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-09-19 12:47:55 PM
Did one of those 3,000 have a dancing horse and magic underwear?
 
2012-09-19 12:53:06 PM

vpb: Did one of those 3,000 have a dancing horse and magic underwear?


Only one way to be sure...
 
2012-09-19 01:00:47 PM
www.cbpp.org
 
2012-09-19 01:14:13 PM

vpb: Did one of those 3,000 have a dancing horse and magic underwear?


There are 47 percent of the people who believe that they are entitled to tap-dancing horses, to car elevators, to the Presidency of the United States, to you-name-it.
 
2012-09-19 01:18:41 PM

impaler: [www.cbpp.org image 288x235]



Yeah, payroll taxes are not income taxes. They're for social security and medicare--which, theoretically, you get back later. So according to your chart, 61% of people who are not elderly, jobless, students, or disabled pay no income taxes. That's too damn high.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-09-19 01:21:29 PM

BravadoGT: impaler: [www.cbpp.org image 288x235]


Yeah, payroll taxes are not income taxes. They're for social security and medicare--which, theoretically, you get back later. So according to your chart, 61% of people who are not elderly, jobless, students, or disabled pay no income taxes. That's too damn high.


And too many of them are wealthy people who think they deserve more tax breaks.
 
2012-09-19 01:23:28 PM
Damn shame I to vote Obama a second time, years ago. I might have enjoyed being mad at Romney.
 
2012-09-19 01:24:00 PM

BravadoGT: impaler: [www.cbpp.org image 288x235]


Yeah, payroll taxes are not income taxes. They're for social security and medicare--which, theoretically, you get back later. So according to your chart, 61% of people who are not elderly, jobless, students, or disabled pay no income taxes. That's too damn high.


you don't know how to read charts.
 
2012-09-19 01:24:25 PM

Xaxor: Damn shame I

decided to vote Obama a second time, years ago. I might have enjoyed being mad at Romney.

Cripes.

/FTFM
 
2012-09-19 01:24:42 PM

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: vpb: Did one of those 3,000 have a dancing horse and magic underwear?

Only one way to be sure...


You know, that's the other thing Rmoney opened up with this whole thing. The rumor persists that the reason he won't release his tax returns is that they will show he paid no taxes, and his ragging on deadbeats raises the question, "So you did pay income tax, right, Mitt?"

This may go down as one of the single stupidest things a Presidential nominee has ever said during the campaign.
 
2012-09-19 01:27:42 PM

BravadoGT: Yeah, payroll taxes are not income taxes. They're for social security and medicare--which, theoretically, you get back later. So according to your chart, 61% of people who are not elderly, jobless, students, or disabled pay no income taxes. That's too damn high.


So raise taxes on the poor and middle class?

Glad you admit the majority are working Americans and not leeches waiting for a handout.
 
2012-09-19 01:28:05 PM
If the outrage is that 47% of Americans don't pay income taxes, wouldn't Mittens support raising the minimum wage to try and bring that number down ("Now you're not too poor to avoid paying taxes")? Or is that another thing that makes Supply-side Baby Jesus cry?
 
2012-09-19 01:29:05 PM

impaler: Glad you admit the majority of those not paying income taxes are working Americans and not leeches waiting for a handout.


FTFM.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-09-19 01:29:21 PM

jake_lex: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: vpb: Did one of those 3,000 have a dancing horse and magic underwear?

Only one way to be sure...

You know, that's the other thing Rmoney opened up with this whole thing. The rumor persists that the reason he won't release his tax returns is that they will show he paid no taxes, and his ragging on deadbeats raises the question, "So you did pay income tax, right, Mitt?"

This may go down as one of the single stupidest things a Presidential nominee has ever said during the campaign.


And too many of them are wealthy people who think they deserve more tax breaks.
Not just that, he has promised to release his 2011 returns when he is finished with them next month (he filed for an extension).

He is intentionally reminding people that he didn't release the 2009 returns right before the election.
 
2012-09-19 01:35:18 PM
And Mitt Romney is one of them. He said in a debate with Gingrich that if you reduce capital gains to 0%, he would pay no taxes, which means he pays no income tax. He said this on TV. That parasite.
 
2012-09-19 01:36:44 PM
www.altfg.com

Welfare Queens
 
2012-09-19 01:38:30 PM

DamnYankees: And Mitt Romney is one of them. He said in a debate with Gingrich that if you reduce capital gains to 0%, he would pay no taxes, which means he pays no income tax. He said this on TV. That parasite.


Capital gains taxes are not income taxes. So, no--it doesn't mean that.
 
2012-09-19 01:39:45 PM

BravadoGT: DamnYankees: And Mitt Romney is one of them. He said in a debate with Gingrich that if you reduce capital gains to 0%, he would pay no taxes, which means he pays no income tax. He said this on TV. That parasite.

Capital gains taxes are not income taxes. So, no--it doesn't mean that.


You need to think through what he is saying.

If you remove capital gains tax, Romney would be paying no taxes - at all. That's what he said in the debate. That means that the only taxes he pays are capital gains taxes. Which means he doesn't pay income taxes.
 
2012-09-19 01:43:41 PM

DamnYankees: You need to think


Forget it. He's on a roll.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-09-19 01:44:40 PM

BravadoGT: DamnYankees: And Mitt Romney is one of them. He said in a debate with Gingrich that if you reduce capital gains to 0%, he would pay no taxes, which means he pays no income tax. He said this on TV. That parasite.

Capital gains taxes are not income taxes. So, no--it doesn't mean that.


Yes they are.
 
2012-09-19 01:48:08 PM

BravadoGT: DamnYankees: And Mitt Romney is one of them. He said in a debate with Gingrich that if you reduce capital gains to 0%, he would pay no taxes, which means he pays no income tax. He said this on TV. That parasite.

Capital gains taxes are not income taxes. So, no--it doesn't mean that.


WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH
 
2012-09-19 01:48:50 PM
Yes, capital gains are income taxes.
 
2012-09-19 01:49:36 PM

BravadoGT: DamnYankees: And Mitt Romney is one of them. He said in a debate with Gingrich that if you reduce capital gains to 0%, he would pay no taxes, which means he pays no income tax. He said this on TV. That parasite.

Capital gains taxes are not income taxes. So, no--it doesn't mean that.


If you are not a troll, you are really really stupid.
 
2012-09-19 01:55:47 PM

AdolfOliverPanties: BravadoGT: DamnYankees: And Mitt Romney is one of them. He said in a debate with Gingrich that if you reduce capital gains to 0%, he would pay no taxes, which means he pays no income tax. He said this on TV. That parasite.

Capital gains taxes are not income taxes. So, no--it doesn't mean that.

If you are not a troll, you are really really stupid.


Capital gains are taxed on an entirely different schedule that income taxes. While technically they are taxes on investment "income," the phrase "income taxes" as it is commonly used refers to taxes on wages. Romney would pay no income taxes right now because he has no job.
 
2012-09-19 01:56:36 PM

Calmamity: DamnYankees: You need to think

Forget it. He's on a troll.


FTFY

/at least, I hope he is; I'd rather assume that dumb people are trolls than admit that there really are people as stupid as he portrays himself to be
 
2012-09-19 01:57:23 PM

BravadoGT: AdolfOliverPanties: BravadoGT: DamnYankees: And Mitt Romney is one of them. He said in a debate with Gingrich that if you reduce capital gains to 0%, he would pay no taxes, which means he pays no income tax. He said this on TV. That parasite.

Capital gains taxes are not income taxes. So, no--it doesn't mean that.

If you are not a troll, you are really really stupid.

Capital gains are taxed on an entirely different schedule that income taxes. While technically they are taxes on investment "income," the phrase "income taxes" as it is commonly used refers to taxes on wages. Romney would pay no income taxes right now because he has no job.


So you agree, Romney is a parasite.
 
2012-09-19 01:59:13 PM
j.wigflip.com
 
2012-09-19 02:05:52 PM

BravadoGT: Capital gains are taxed on an entirely different schedule that income taxes. While technically they are taxes on investment "income," the phrase "income taxes" as it is commonly used refers to taxes on wages. Romney would pay no income taxes right now because he has no job.


They're called "income taxes on capital gains."

They are part of the income tax.

Part of Romney's 1040 (income tax filing)
growlersoftware.com
 
2012-09-19 02:21:23 PM

vpb: Did one of those 3,000 have a dancing horse and magic underwear?


Someone who didn't pay income taxes would hesitate to release his tax records if running for President.
 
2012-09-19 02:23:16 PM
it's kinda weird to think i bounced at a bar full of 1 percenters (before that one changed definitions, somehow), have alternately been a 47%, a 53%, and 99%...and didn't really change a damned thing.

i think i kinda liked it better when they just said 'real americans' to demonize half the country rather than trying to act like it was a math equation, tho.
 
2012-09-19 02:24:02 PM
I was waiting for this. Lets now take a look at corporate taxes vs. corporate welfare and find out who the real leeches are. Then we can move on to DoD contractors that receive non-noncompetitive funding and show how much pork barrel spending gets siphoned into the coffers of the red states.
 
2012-09-19 02:25:21 PM
i.qkme.me
 
2012-09-19 02:25:57 PM

impaler: BravadoGT: Capital gains are taxed on an entirely different schedule that income taxes. While technically they are taxes on investment "income," the phrase "income taxes" as it is commonly used refers to taxes on wages. Romney would pay no income taxes right now because he has no job.

They're called "income taxes on capital gains."

They are part of the income tax.

Part of Romney's 1040 (income tax filing)
[growlersoftware.com image 613x600]


They are taxed at a different rate for some reason, which makes absolutely no sense. Income is income, regardless of the source, and should be taxed to the same rate.
 
2012-09-19 02:27:02 PM
Still trying to squeeze mileage out of this article?

If only we could focus all that vitrol on the fuel efficiency of cars....
 
2012-09-19 02:28:29 PM

BravadoGT: impaler: [www.cbpp.org image 288x235]


Yeah, payroll taxes are not income taxes. They're for social security and medicare--which, theoretically, you get back later. So according to your chart, 61% of people who are not elderly, jobless, students, or disabled pay no income taxes. That's too damn high.


Yes, I can see how someone with your post history would now be for raising taxes.

You look like a tool
 
2012-09-19 02:29:02 PM

BravadoGT: AdolfOliverPanties: BravadoGT: DamnYankees: And Mitt Romney is one of them. He said in a debate with Gingrich that if you reduce capital gains to 0%, he would pay no taxes, which means he pays no income tax. He said this on TV. That parasite.

Capital gains taxes are not income taxes. So, no--it doesn't mean that.

If you are not a troll, you are really really stupid.

Capital gains are taxed on an entirely different schedule that income taxes. While technically they are taxes on investment "income," the phrase "income taxes" as it is commonly used refers to taxes on wages. Romney would pay no income taxes right now because he has no job.


Long term capital gains and qualified dividends are taxed at a different rate from other types of incomes, but that does not mean that the tax is not an income tax.
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2012-09-19 02:29:15 PM

TabASlotB: [docs.google.com image 600x371] 

Look at the spike in Left vertical axis titles around 2007. That's crazy! Someone should really do something about this...


It's perfectly okay when it is your buddies. When you're poor... well...
 
2012-09-19 02:29:37 PM

BravadoGT: as it is commonly used


Try using words for what they actually mean... maybe a little less of what you think other people "commonly" mean. Essentially you seem to be saying, "since some people mistakenly think wage taxes are the only form of income taxes, then 'income taxes' means what they mistakenly think it means instead of what it means, and therefor you are wrong."

That about sum it up? These other folks, they still subscribe the actual meaning of income taxes and probably aren't going to budge. People who know things tend not to be so easily swayed as people who don't.
 
2012-09-19 02:30:03 PM
freeloaders
 
2012-09-19 02:30:16 PM

Corvus: i.qkme.me


I fell entitled right into accidentally once.
 
2012-09-19 02:30:19 PM

impaler: BravadoGT: Capital gains are taxed on an entirely different schedule that income taxes. While technically they are taxes on investment "income," the phrase "income taxes" as it is commonly used refers to taxes on wages. Romney would pay no income taxes right now because he has no job.

They're called "income taxes on capital gains."

They are part of the income tax.

Part of Romney's 1040 (income tax filing)
[growlersoftware.com image 613x600]


Yes, but they are not taxed at the same rate as income.

/I think
//correct me if not
///I learn through my many screw-ups
////and slashies
 
2012-09-19 02:30:24 PM

Antimatter: They are taxed at a different rate for some reason, which makes absolutely no sense. Income is income, regardless of the source, and should be taxed to the same rate.


Haven't you been paying attention?

If capital gains income is taxed at the same rate as income from working, job creators wouldn't create jobs.
 
2012-09-19 02:31:03 PM

Epoch_Zero: impaler: BravadoGT: Capital gains are taxed on an entirely different schedule that income taxes. While technically they are taxes on investment "income," the phrase "income taxes" as it is commonly used refers to taxes on wages. Romney would pay no income taxes right now because he has no job.

They're called "income taxes on capital gains."

They are part of the income tax.

Part of Romney's 1040 (income tax filing)
[growlersoftware.com image 613x600]

Yes, but they are not taxed at the same rate as income.

/I think
//correct me if not
///I learn through my many screw-ups
////and slashies


They are if they are short term capital gains.
 
2012-09-19 02:31:38 PM

vernonFL: [www.altfg.com image 500x312]

Welfare Queen


manifestopart2.com
 
2012-09-19 02:31:57 PM

impaler: Yes, capital gains are income taxes.


Bite your tongue!! Earned income is taxed at 35% plus

Capital Gains income is taxed at 15%
 
2012-09-19 02:32:28 PM

Epoch_Zero: Yes, but they are not taxed at the same rate as income.


Correct.

Short term capital gains (money made on things held for less than 1 year) are taxed as regular income.
Long term capital gains have a different rate, and it's basically 15% right now (there modifications to that)
 
2012-09-19 02:32:45 PM

sweetmelissa31: vpb: Did one of those 3,000 have a dancing horse and magic underwear?

There are 47 percent of the people who believe that they are entitled to tap-dancing horses, to car elevators, to the Presidency of the United States, to you-name-it.


If you give a poor person a horse, you feed him for a day (because he'll just club it over the head and eat it, that's what poor people do).

If you teach the horse to dance... well, I'm not sure how that actually helps anyone but you've got to admit it's kinda cool.
 
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