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(The Raw Story)   Drought = loss of crops. Loss of crops = lack of animal feed. Lack of animal feed = mass slaughter of farm animals. Mass slaughter of farm animals = 14% jump in food prices. Enjoy your $120 steak, dawg   (rawstory.com) divider line 243
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2012-09-19 04:04:23 PM

thismomentinblackhistory: Meh. I will literally pay up words of $200 for a properly cooked (medium well) steak that doesn't drown out the flavor of the A1/Ketchup combo because, hey bro, irregardless of the price? YOLO.


0/10 Oh who am I kidding, that's at least 6/10
 
2012-09-19 04:04:35 PM

JackieRabbit: I was expecting a 47% increase in prices.

OldManDownDRoad: GoldSpider:
If only we weren't using corn to fuel our unhealthy overconsumption of meat and high calorie beverages.

[www.andreaharner.com image 500x332]

Bite your tongue . . .

Brace yourself. I stopped at package store to get some scotch and bourbon for the old liquor cabinet. 1.75L Johnny Walker Red Label: $43. 1.75L Maker's Mark: $47.50. The bourbon was up nearly ten dollars from the last time I bought it.


I use cheap tequila. Fark corn
 
2012-09-19 04:04:39 PM

Aarontology: GAT_00: Aarontology: Fat people problems.

Considering that food prices are already high around the world, and high food prices tend to cause riots, I think it's a bit more of a problem than that.

Oh, I agree. Just making a joke.

I think one of the problems here is that all that corn is being used to feed animals instead of being used to feed people. You could feed a hell of a lot of people with the corn that is used to produce meat.

As much as I love a nice steak, I acknowledge that it's a very, very wasteful use of resources.


granted protein (cows, in particular) are energy inefficient (10 lbs of beef require 20 lbs of corn or something like that)

however, corn alone is not that nutritious. switching over to a heavy corn diet for humans won't really solve much.
 
2012-09-19 04:05:02 PM

Mr. Coffee Nerves: But if there are mounds of slaughtered farm animals laying about shouldn't the price go *down*?


No. They are slaughtering before the animals are ready. Yields will be way down. And processing plants can only handle so many animals at a time, so many of the animals will just be destroyed and never get to market.

/But global warming doesn't exist. Let's not forget that while we consume a $23 chicken.
 
2012-09-19 04:07:37 PM

JackieRabbit: /But global warming doesn't exist. Let's not forget that while we consume a $23 chicken.


Ok now I might finally win the argument with the womenfolk here at the house and get a chicken coop for the backyard. Bout damn time.
 
2012-09-19 04:09:47 PM
1. How about we diversify our crops so that drought/blight won't wipe out everything we depend on.
2. Let livestock eat grass and forage, like they're supposed to.
 
2012-09-19 04:10:01 PM
meat packing places should start cutting them up-----get cracking on a large scale operation aging some steaks, make jerky, and and vacum packing and freezing steaks and other cuts. Try to preserve as much as you can and not just throw the meat all away.
 
2012-09-19 04:10:34 PM

OregonVet: Just picked up our take on a steer we commissioned this past week. About $0.20 higher ($2.78#) for the Angus cut to order this time. My tenderloin steaks cost less than ground beef at the megamart and the whole lot is far superior than anything in the store.

/still biatched about the twenty cents LOL


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2012-09-19 04:11:00 PM

JackieRabbit: Mr. Coffee Nerves: But if there are mounds of slaughtered farm animals laying about shouldn't the price go *down*?

No. They are slaughtering before the animals are ready. Yields will be way down. And processing plants can only handle so many animals at a time, so many of the animals will just be destroyed and never get to market.

/But global warming doesn't exist. Let's not forget that while we consume a $23 chicken.


also I assume that next year (or season, or whatever) will be more difficult. they'll have a smaller breeding population and rebounding from the loss will drive prices up also.
 
2012-09-19 04:11:17 PM
www.drawingmuhammad.com

Food costs/availability set off the "Arab Spring" revolts.

Ready for an "American Winter"?
 
2012-09-19 04:11:45 PM

JackieRabbit: No. They are slaughtering before the animals are ready. Yields will be way down. And processing plants can only handle so many animals at a time, so many of the animals will just be destroyed and never get to market.


Problem Solved
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2012-09-19 04:12:46 PM
I just picked up hummus, guacamole with pico, chilled peach soup and quinoa slaw... FOR FREE... today. Yesterday was 2 bags of artisan whole-grain breads. The usual schlubs at the free lunch kitchen won't touch the stuff, and I hate to see good food thrown away, and I live with a near-vegetarian diabetic.

Whole Foods price? $5-$10 each. Free for me.

Oh, and the free food at the bicycle co-op every Monday and Thursday.

Oh, and the gardens out back of the house.

I buy meat eggs and cheese once every two weeks or so, and milk as consumed.
 
2012-09-19 04:12:47 PM

Leopold Stotch: 1. How about we diversify our crops so that drought/blight won't wipe out everything we depend on.
2. Let livestock eat grass and forage, like they're supposed to.


corn lobbyists have a STRONG presence in America politics.

it's one of the reasons why corn (high fructose corn syrup) is in almost everything we eat.
 
2012-09-19 04:12:57 PM
A package of Oscar Mayer Center cut bacon (not even a full pound was $7.89 at the grocery store.
.I cried.
 
2012-09-19 04:16:05 PM
Since farmers and ranchers are making money hand over fist because of rising global demand, does this mean they're going to pay back some of those subsidies that have gotten them through hard times?

Or will they just continue voting Republican and convincing themselves that they did it all by themselves?
 
2012-09-19 04:16:05 PM

jhill99999: It will soothe you to know that the Corps of engineers in FloriDUH will be dumping the excess brown water from Okeechobee into our Blue Rivers because the lake is just TOO DAMN HIGH!

http://www.tcpalm.com/news/2012/sep/18/starting-wednesday-morning-lak e -o-water-coming/


I hate when the St. Lucie Inlet is clear. I like swimming in chocolate milk!!
 
2012-09-19 04:16:06 PM
I need to eat more fish anyway.
 
2012-09-19 04:16:06 PM
Neither people nor animals should be eating corn to begin with.
 
2012-09-19 04:16:06 PM

OldManDownDRoad: JackieRabbit: I was expecting a 47% increase in prices.

Brace yourself. I stopped at package store to get some scotch and bourbon for the old liquor cabinet. 1.75L Johnny Walker Red Label: $43. 1.75L Maker's Mark: $47.50. The bourbon was up nearly ten dollars from the last time I bought it.

Yeah, I had that experience last week. Expecting some company I went by the store to get some bourbon, Irish, and Scotch for my guests. The prices burned the writing off my debit card.


Dude, I want to be your guest.
 
2012-09-19 04:16:06 PM
swaxhog
Ok, I need an economics education. Why wouldn't a increase in marketable meat not lower the price?

Because economics is all voodoo, and prices will always go up no matter what happens. The only thing you can expect from the Invisible Hand is an Invisible UFIA.

/only slightly bitter
//science makes sense, economics makes richer farkers richer
 
2012-09-19 04:16:10 PM
Sowing my fall/winter garden (hooped raised beds) in the next few days...

/ Getting a kick
 
2012-09-19 04:18:15 PM

Amos Quito: [www.drawingmuhammad.com image 480x480]

Food costs/availability set off the "Arab Spring" revolts.

Ready for an "American Winter"?


That is inaccurate.
 
2012-09-19 04:18:32 PM
I'm going to laugh when Farkers are praying for it to rain down in Texas.
 
2012-09-19 04:20:25 PM

Cythraul: Aarontology: I think one of the problems here is that all that corn is being used to feed animals instead of being used to feed people. You could feed a hell of a lot of people with the corn that is used to produce meat.

I'm no expert on the subject, but I think the corn farmers grow for fuel, HFCS, and animal feed is not really optimal for human consumption. I've seen people try to eat those brands of corn before, and they described it as pretty god awful nasty.

Now, they probably could use the farm acreage to grow the kind of tasty corn that we'd eat.


Which takes more resources.

/parents moved us to Amish country when I was 10
//hunt some deer
 
2012-09-19 04:21:42 PM
Corn is a shiat food. Corn, HFCS, Corn oil, corn fed beef all suck ass in terms of health and nutrient content.
 
2012-09-19 04:21:43 PM

thismomentinblackhistory: Meh. I will literally pay up words of $200 for a properly cooked (medium well) steak that doesn't drown out the flavor of the A1/Ketchup combo because, hey bro, irregardless of the price? YOLO.


I love that game!
www.galapemy.com
 
2012-09-19 04:24:24 PM
So lemme put on my Economist hat here.. Subby says that a glut in the product on the market means the price skyrockets? Makes sense.
 
2012-09-19 04:25:16 PM

GAT_00: Aarontology: Fat people problems.

Considering that food prices are already high around the world, and high food prices tend to cause riots, I think it's a bit more of a problem than that.


That's why God invented guns. Only the liberals will die off.
 
2012-09-19 04:25:56 PM

BarkingUnicorn: This is why the USDA recently lifted its ban on Kobe beef.


It is my understanding that Kobe beef is not exported from Japan. If you purchase something labeled as Kobe beef, it may be the same breed of cow, but it isn't raised in an area or method certified for the name.

See also: champagne vs. sparkling wine.
 
2012-09-19 04:26:39 PM
Price of meat is reasonable if you buy it at the right place. We buy pigs by the half and cows by the quarter. Its awesome to buy a few hundred lbs of Beef at $2.39/lb. Yea, the T-bone and ribeyes are delicious.
 
2012-09-19 04:27:51 PM

Aarontology: GAT_00: Aarontology: Fat people problems.

Considering that food prices are already high around the world, and high food prices tend to cause riots, I think it's a bit more of a problem than that.

Oh, I agree. Just making a joke.

I think one of the problems here is that all that corn is being used to feed animals instead of being used to feed people. You could feed a hell of a lot of people with the corn that is used to produce meat.

As much as I love a nice steak, I acknowledge that it's a very, very wasteful use of resources.


The only problem is that the human body does not break down corn and corn contains a high amount of sugar. So, from a nutritional standpoint, corn is a very bad crop for food sources compared to wheat and other grains. Further, Corn tends to be very hard on the soil, taking out a LOT of the nutrients in the soil. This means that either you go heavy in crop rotation, or you have people that run the soil into ruin and then wonder why their crops are shiat.

There are other crops, like Hemp, which are more useful, grow in more marginal soils, and are useful for food and many other things. Plus, crops like this return nutrients to the soil and are healthier overall.

Why we chose to grow corn over other crops I don't know, but it's a crappy idea.
 
2012-09-19 04:28:30 PM
Using CORN for ethanol feedstock is STOOPID

Use sweet sorghum instead:

Greater production per-acre (by far)
requires less water
can be grown on marginal land


Net energy yield: CORN 1.25 : 1

Net energy yield: SORGHUM: 8 : 1


/Smart government is SMART 
//Enjoy your starvation
///DERP
 
2012-09-19 04:30:31 PM

Siberwulf: Can't we just eat the children?


You sound modest.
 
2012-09-19 04:30:31 PM
www.statesymbolsusa.org

$35 license, $1 .30-06 round, give cousin who processes the deer 20%, leaving roughly 40-50 lbs of meat for the freezer at less than $1 a pound.

Eat and enjoy lean, free range protein for several months: Priceless.
 
2012-09-19 04:31:29 PM
So? Restrictions on coal fired power plants are driving energy costs up 14%, but that's Obama so it is ok.
 
2012-09-19 04:32:54 PM
seven years of this, seven years of that. best stock up on skittles & malt liquor while the gettings good kids.
 
2012-09-19 04:33:42 PM

Ow! That was my feelings!: [www.statesymbolsusa.org image 380x393]

$35 license, $1 .30-06 round, give cousin who processes the deer 20%, leaving roughly 40-50 lbs of meat for the freezer at less than $1 a pound.

Eat and enjoy lean, free range protein for several months: Priceless.


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You animal
 
2012-09-19 04:33:51 PM

Dinjiin: BarkingUnicorn: This is why the USDA recently lifted its ban on Kobe beef.

It is my understanding that Kobe beef is not exported from Japan. If you purchase something labeled as Kobe beef, it may be the same breed of cow, but it isn't raised in an area or method certified for the name.

See also: champagne vs. sparkling wine.


You are correct. Kobe beef never leaves japanese soil. There is no US regulation on the term kobe and so anyone can label any beef as such.

/food scientist
 
2012-09-19 04:34:09 PM
Clearly, we need more corn subsidies to keep meat prices down.
 
2012-09-19 04:34:52 PM

Ow! That was my feelings!: [www.statesymbolsusa.org image 380x393]

$35 license, $1 .30-06 round, give cousin who processes the deer 20%, leaving roughly 40-50 lbs of meat for the freezer at less than $1 a pound.

Eat and enjoy lean, free range protein for several months: Priceless.


except the reason why you need to buy a license is to make sure we don't over farm (or over hunt or whatever).

we can't _all_ hunt deer.
 
2012-09-19 04:35:04 PM
Experts at investment bank Rabobank warn that the mass "herd liquidation" will contribute to a 14% jump in the price of the average basket of food by next summer.

Average "basket" of food?

Who is buying food in "baskets"??
 
2012-09-19 04:35:23 PM

ZipSplat: Amos Quito: [www.drawingmuhammad.com image 480x480]

Food costs/availability set off the "Arab Spring" revolts.

Ready for an "American Winter"?

That is inaccurate.



Is that so?

Do you think the entire Arab Spring business was all about solidarity support for one self-immolating street vendor?

You need to do more reading.
 
2012-09-19 04:35:55 PM

Leopold Stotch:
2. Let livestock eat grass and forage, like they're supposed to.


They already do. Take a drive anywhere between Chicago and Denver and you will see it. Thousand of cows on millions of acres of land, and that's just what you can see from I-80.

Feed lots only happen the last 10 days to marble the flesh before slaughter.
 
2012-09-19 04:36:33 PM

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Ow! That was my feelings!: [www.statesymbolsusa.org image 380x393]

$35 license, $1 .30-06 round, give cousin who processes the deer 20%, leaving roughly 40-50 lbs of meat for the freezer at less than $1 a pound.

Eat and enjoy lean, free range protein for several months: Priceless.

[yellingatpixels.files.wordpress.com image 560x420]

You animal


Yes and so are you.
 
2012-09-19 04:36:33 PM

JackieRabbit:
No. They are slaughtering before the animals are ready. Yields will be way down. And processing plants can only handle so many animals at a time, so many of the animals will just be destroyed and never get to market.

/But global warming doesn't exist. Let's not forget that while we consume a $23 chicken.


lol, I know you have to read the WHOLE article to see it but they're forecasting higher prices next summer, prices for beef are down right now due to excess supply from producers reducing the size of their herds.
 
2012-09-19 04:39:04 PM

Siberwulf: Can't we just eat the children?


Its been done already. so why not!

http://www.sinosplice.com/life/archives/2003/05/10/a-madmans-diary
http://www.paulbogdanor.com/left/china/deaths1.html
 
2012-09-19 04:41:14 PM

tobcc: Aarontology: GAT_00: Aarontology: Fat people problems.

Considering that food prices are already high around the world, and high food prices tend to cause riots, I think it's a bit more of a problem than that.

Oh, I agree. Just making a joke.

I think one of the problems here is that all that corn is being used to feed animals instead of being used to feed people. You could feed a hell of a lot of people with the corn that is used to produce meat.

As much as I love a nice steak, I acknowledge that it's a very, very wasteful use of resources.

Feed Corn is different that Sweet (what humans eat) corn.


True, but if you eat corn tortillas, corn flakes, etc, that is made out of the same corn as that which is fed to cattle.
 
2012-09-19 04:41:31 PM
So does the 14% take in to account the 15%+ inflation that Bernanke will bestow upon us with all of his uncontrollable printing?
 
2012-09-19 04:41:42 PM

URAPNIS: dj_bigbird: If only we weren't using corn to fuel our vehicles.

And to destroy my 2 cycle lawn equipment.


Boo hoo.. my manicured unnatural carpet of bastardized grass won't be as green because I can't repair
my smoke and oil belching inefficient lawn care equipment. Get bent, suburbia.
 
2012-09-19 04:43:24 PM

aesirx: Ow! That was my feelings!: [www.statesymbolsusa.org image 380x393]

$35 license, $1 .30-06 round, give cousin who processes the deer 20%, leaving roughly 40-50 lbs of meat for the freezer at less than $1 a pound.

Eat and enjoy lean, free range protein for several months: Priceless.

except the reason why you need to buy a license is to make sure we don't over farm (or over hunt or whatever).

we can't _all_ hunt deer.


While true on it's face, the deer population is doing fine. I've never been denied a permit because there isn't enough deer or elk. Sure, I suppose if *everyone* went hunting it would be a problem, but that is never gonna happen. Most people will just eat soybeans and pretend they like their tofudeer.
 
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