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2012-09-19 11:50:39 AM
I hope they do Silmarrion movie after this.
 
2012-09-19 11:51:39 AM
I'm surprised they didn't split that into three pages.
 
2012-09-19 11:52:04 AM
Stone giants, trolls, and orcs, oh my
 
2012-09-19 11:53:14 AM
Now that's what I'm Tolkien about

Ariel, naw!
 
2012-09-19 11:55:59 AM
I'm still hoping we get at least a look at Smaug in the first film. I know they won't get anywhere near that point in the story, but they could have a prologue in the beginning or a teaser of him at the end of the movie.
 
2012-09-19 11:58:29 AM
Bossa Nova!
 
2012-09-19 12:00:07 PM

BalugaJoe: I hope they do Silmarrion movie after this.


I have hoped for that for a long, long time.

I have to believe they will. Peter Jackson and LOTR content is nothing but money in the bank for New Line.

I don't see them stopping.
 
2012-09-19 12:00:12 PM

NeoCortex42: I'm still hoping we get at least a look at Smaug in the first film. I know they won't get anywhere near that point in the story, but they could have a prologue in the beginning or a teaser of him at the end of the movie.


They'll probably show him attacking the lonely mountain from a distance in a flashback. Thorin tells the whole party about being out hunting when it happens. If they stay true to the source material the unexpected party will be much too long and much too boring for a film audience without some flashbacks or other things to liven it up.
 
2012-09-19 12:00:51 PM

NeoCortex42: I'm still hoping we get at least a look at Smaug Galadriel's tits in the first film.

 
2012-09-19 12:01:00 PM
Fili and Kili just don't look right.

Is it just me?
 
2012-09-19 12:02:49 PM

Rev.K: I have hoped for that for a long, long time.

I have to believe they will. Peter Jackson and LOTR content is nothing but money in the bank for New Line.

I don't see them stopping.


They don't have the rights to The Simarillion. They'd have to negotiate with Tolkein's estate and I'm sure they won't give it up cheap.
 
2012-09-19 12:04:21 PM

Big Beef Burrito: Bossa Nova!


*stares*
 
2012-09-19 12:04:32 PM

Snapper Carr: They don't have the rights to The Simarillion. They'd have to negotiate with Tolkein's estate and I'm sure they won't give it up cheap.


Perhaps not.

But with The Hobbit banking another $2 billion or so, I'm betting New Line will be willing to part with a lot of money to make it happen.

If The Hobbit can be three movies, The Silmarillion could be 16.
 
2012-09-19 12:05:22 PM

BalugaJoe: I hope they do Silmarrion movie after this.


Rev.K: BalugaJoe: I hope they do Silmarrion movie after this.

I have hoped for that for a long, long time.

I have to believe they will. Peter Jackson and LOTR content is nothing but money in the bank for New Line.

I don't see them stopping.


If I remember correctly, the only reason they were able to make a movie based on the trilogy and the Hobbit is because the Tolkien Estate sold the rights to the movie adaptation back in the '70s. The Tolkien Estate it self HATES the idea of the movies. In fact, the Tolkien Estate had to fight to even get proceeds from the modern adaptation of the trilogy.

http://www.thewrap.com/movies/column-post/who-hates-lord-rings-tolkie n -family-47841

http://www.probatelawyerblog.com/2009/09/tolkien-estate-settles-lawsu i t-over-movie-proceeds.html

http://sedulia.blogs.com/sedulias_translations/2012/07/was-first-felt . html

Specifically: "n 1969, the writer sold the movie rights and rights for derived products for The Hobbit and Lord of the Rings to United Artists for 100,000 pounds sterling, a considerable sum at the time, but paltry when the current value is considered."
 
2012-09-19 12:05:32 PM

Egoy3k: NeoCortex42: I'm still hoping we get at least a look at Smaug in the first film. I know they won't get anywhere near that point in the story, but they could have a prologue in the beginning or a teaser of him at the end of the movie.

They'll probably show him attacking the lonely mountain from a distance in a flashback. Thorin tells the whole party about being out hunting when it happens. If they stay true to the source material the unexpected party will be much too long and much too boring for a film audience without some flashbacks or other things to liven it up.


That's what the musical interlude is for. We all know what Bilbo Baggins hates.

Rev.K: BalugaJoe: I hope they do Silmarrion movie after this.

I have hoped for that for a long, long time.

I have to believe they will. Peter Jackson and LOTR content is nothing but money in the bank for New Line.

I don't see them stopping.


The only problem with the Silmarillion is that it's not as well known to general audiences. Even people that haven't read LOTR or The Hobbit have heard of it. It will also be a little more difficult to market since it's not just one cohesive story. It's a collection of tales.

I think it would probably work best as an HBO series. Maybe a post-Game of Thrones fantasy production.
 
2012-09-19 12:06:17 PM
Is anyone else getting a weird "Battlefield: Earth" vibe from the facial hair on display?
 
2012-09-19 12:06:23 PM

Lord Dimwit: Big Beef Burrito: Bossa Nova!

*stares*


Chevy Nova?
 
2012-09-19 12:09:18 PM
I find myself somewhat disappointed that I'm not in the slightest bit interested in this.

Seriously. I just don't care and it sort of bothers me. I'm sure they will be excellent films.
 
2012-09-19 12:09:57 PM

NeoCortex42: Egoy3k: NeoCortex42: I'm still hoping we get at least a look at Smaug in the first film. I know they won't get anywhere near that point in the story, but they could have a prologue in the beginning or a teaser of him at the end of the movie.

They'll probably show him attacking the lonely mountain from a distance in a flashback. Thorin tells the whole party about being out hunting when it happens. If they stay true to the source material the unexpected party will be much too long and much too boring for a film audience without some flashbacks or other things to liven it up.

That's what the musical interlude is for. We all know what Bilbo Baggins hates.

Rev.K: BalugaJoe: I hope they do Silmarrion movie after this.

I have hoped for that for a long, long time.

I have to believe they will. Peter Jackson and LOTR content is nothing but money in the bank for New Line.

I don't see them stopping.

The only problem with the Silmarillion is that it's not as well known to general audiences. Even people that haven't read LOTR or The Hobbit have heard of it. It will also be a little more difficult to market since it's not just one cohesive story. It's a collection of tales.

I think it would probably work best as an HBO series. Maybe a post-Game of Thrones fantasy production.


I'd love to see The Tale of the Children of Húrin (Narn I Hîn Húrin) be given the Game of Thrones treatment. Or the Tale of Beren and Lúthien.
 
2012-09-19 12:11:00 PM

FishyFred: Is anyone else getting a weird "Battlefield: Earth" vibe from the facial hair on display?


Now that you mention it, yes. Long hair, prominent foreheads reminds of the aliens in "Battlefield: Earth"
 
2012-09-19 12:16:28 PM
After The Hobbit, New Line is making a three movie series out of 'Farmer Giles of Ham'.
 
2012-09-19 12:17:07 PM
Looks like it'll be crazy fun.
 
2012-09-19 12:17:13 PM

FishyFred: Is anyone else getting a weird "Battlefield: Earth" vibe from the facial hair on display?


Possibly.

The beards just don't seem right. They don't really seem like Dwarfs to me and I'm not sure why.
 
2012-09-19 12:17:20 PM

Big Beef Burrito: Lord Dimwit: Big Beef Burrito: Bossa Nova!

*stares*

Chevy Nova?


Cowabunga dude.
 
2012-09-19 12:19:30 PM

Modguy: NeoCortex42: Egoy3k: NeoCortex42: I'm still hoping we get at least a look at Smaug in the first film. I know they won't get anywhere near that point in the story, but they could have a prologue in the beginning or a teaser of him at the end of the movie.

They'll probably show him attacking the lonely mountain from a distance in a flashback. Thorin tells the whole party about being out hunting when it happens. If they stay true to the source material the unexpected party will be much too long and much too boring for a film audience without some flashbacks or other things to liven it up.

That's what the musical interlude is for. We all know what Bilbo Baggins hates.

Rev.K: BalugaJoe: I hope they do Silmarrion movie after this.

I have hoped for that for a long, long time.

I have to believe they will. Peter Jackson and LOTR content is nothing but money in the bank for New Line.

I don't see them stopping.

The only problem with the Silmarillion is that it's not as well known to general audiences. Even people that haven't read LOTR or The Hobbit have heard of it. It will also be a little more difficult to market since it's not just one cohesive story. It's a collection of tales.

I think it would probably work best as an HBO series. Maybe a post-Game of Thrones fantasy production.

I'd love to see The Tale of the Children of Húrin (Narn I Hîn Húrin) be given the Game of Thrones treatment. Or the Tale of Beren and Lúthien.


Fall of Gondolin anyone? An ARMY of Balrogs and other more frightening things, plus that epic one on one duel where the prince stabs the balrog to death with his helmet before they both die.
 
2012-09-19 12:22:38 PM

born_yesterday: Now that's what I'm Tolkien about

Ariel, naw!


Nazgul, please!
 
2012-09-19 12:23:23 PM

BalugaJoe: I hope they do Silmarrion movie after this.


Does that get good? The beginning felt like reading Old Testament genealogies and I quickly gave up.
 
2012-09-19 12:27:34 PM

NeoCortex42: I'm still hoping we get at least a look at Smaug in the first film. I know they won't get anywhere near that point in the story, but they could have a prologue in the beginning or a teaser of him at the end of the movie.


This hasn't gotten a lot of publicity, but the second Hobbit film is going to take most of the songs/music left out of both the Hobbit and Lord of the Rings and make a musical. It's going to be a love song to the fans, and the actors are already learning how to sing in English with a Sindarin accent.
 
2012-09-19 12:31:10 PM

The Martian Manhandler: After The Hobbit, New Line is making a three movie series out of 'Farmer Giles of Ham'.


Is that the story where the farmer has to fend off a giant or something with a blunderbuss? Or did I imagine all that?

AntonChigger: Fall of Gondolin anyone? An ARMY of Balrogs and other more frightening things, plus that epic one on one duel where the prince stabs the balrog to death with his helmet before they both die.


MOAR of this!
 
2012-09-19 12:31:32 PM

Big Beef Burrito: Bossa Nova!


Aldo Nova.
 
2012-09-19 12:32:06 PM

AntonChigger: Modguy: NeoCortex42: Egoy3k: NeoCortex42: I'm still hoping we get at least a look at Smaug in the first film. I know they won't get anywhere near that point in the story, but they could have a prologue in the beginning or a teaser of him at the end of the movie.

They'll probably show him attacking the lonely mountain from a distance in a flashback. Thorin tells the whole party about being out hunting when it happens. If they stay true to the source material the unexpected party will be much too long and much too boring for a film audience without some flashbacks or other things to liven it up.

That's what the musical interlude is for. We all know what Bilbo Baggins hates.

Rev.K: BalugaJoe: I hope they do Silmarrion movie after this.

I have hoped for that for a long, long time.

I have to believe they will. Peter Jackson and LOTR content is nothing but money in the bank for New Line.

I don't see them stopping.

The only problem with the Silmarillion is that it's not as well known to general audiences. Even people that haven't read LOTR or The Hobbit have heard of it. It will also be a little more difficult to market since it's not just one cohesive story. It's a collection of tales.

I think it would probably work best as an HBO series. Maybe a post-Game of Thrones fantasy production.

I'd love to see The Tale of the Children of Húrin (Narn I Hîn Húrin) be given the Game of Thrones treatment. Or the Tale of Beren and Lúthien.

Fall of Gondolin anyone? An ARMY of Balrogs and other more frightening things, plus that epic one on one duel where the prince stabs the balrog to death with his helmet before they both die.


Ohh that would be good.

Also, that guy is Glorfindel.

The guy who, according to some popular theories, not only died but was reborn (technically possible for elves; they have a weird afterlife depending on which stage of development you're looking at) in Valinor, came BACK to Middle Earth, and saved Frodo from the Nazgul on the way to Rivendell.
 
2012-09-19 12:32:18 PM

The Martian Manhandler: After The Hobbit, New Line is making a three movie series out of 'Farmer Giles of Ham'.


Where'd you hear that? I have it on the highest authority that New Line's next project will be an attempt to satisfy the hard-core tolkien geeks while cashing in on the "Glee" phenomenon by producing a "The Adventures of Tom Bombadill" which will of course be a musical and star Justin Beiber in the title role
 
2012-09-19 12:37:32 PM
Wonder how many movies it would take pj to tell the wheel of time saga?
 
2012-09-19 12:37:49 PM

you have pee hands: BalugaJoe: I hope they do Silmarrion movie after this.

Does that get good? The beginning felt like reading Old Testament genealogies and I quickly gave up.


It gets better, if by better you mean "it makes the overstuffed, overly formal, motionless text of the lord of the rings read like 'the hobbit'"

Took me years to finally force myself to finish that dull-ass book. Maybe it will work better as a film, but damn it's a tough slog to read.
 
2012-09-19 12:38:08 PM

Big Beef Burrito: FishyFred: Is anyone else getting a weird "Battlefield: Earth" vibe from the facial hair on display?

Possibly.

The beards just don't seem right. They don't really seem like Dwarfs to me and I'm not sure why.


For me it's the variation in body types. I sort of picture dwarfs as all looking like Gimli with minor variations in hair color and facial features. But these dwarfs look very different in build. But all I've seen are the introduction trailer/commercial so it's hard to say.
 
2012-09-19 12:45:41 PM

Modguy: Ohh that would be good.

Also, that guy is Glorfindel Ecthelion.


FTFY.
 
2012-09-19 12:50:12 PM

Modguy: BalugaJoe: I hope they do Silmarrion movie after this.

Rev.K: BalugaJoe: I hope they do Silmarrion movie after this.

I have hoped for that for a long, long time.

I have to believe they will. Peter Jackson and LOTR content is nothing but money in the bank for New Line.

I don't see them stopping.

If I remember correctly, the only reason they were able to make a movie based on the trilogy and the Hobbit is because the Tolkien Estate sold the rights to the movie adaptation back in the '70s. The Tolkien Estate it self HATES the idea of the movies. In fact, the Tolkien Estate had to fight to even get proceeds from the modern adaptation of the trilogy.


Is it the entire estate that hates them or just Christopher Tolkien? Because he won't live forever and the estate might have different ideas once he's gone.

I don't know if I'd really like any of the Valar vs. Morgoth stories done by Jackson. I don't like his treatment of the elves, except for Legolas. The high elves seem too stiff and ethereal.

Now, the rise and fall of Numenor would make quite a good movie. Men vs Sauron vs those darn immortals in Valinor.
 
2012-09-19 12:58:26 PM
Am I the only one thinking Thorin looks more like a half pint klingon than a dwarf?
 
2012-09-19 01:00:50 PM

BalugaJoe: I hope they do Silmarrion movie after this.


Unsure about this. The Ainulindalë is something I enjoyed very much and I have a very specific idea of how it would look. I don't think I want to see someone's interpretation of it.

And I would hate to see how bad they would botch the Luthien & Beren story. Yuck.
 
2012-09-19 01:03:30 PM

Modguy: The guy who, according to some popular theories, not only died but was reborn (technically possible for elves; they have a weird afterlife depending on which stage of development you're looking at) in Valinor, came BACK to Middle Earth, and saved Frodo from the Nazgul on the way to Rivendell.


Tolkien actually wrote about this, so it isn't just a popular theory, but canonically true. Although it did partially stem from Tolkien being somewhat disorganized and scatter brained and accidentally reusing the name in a draft.

sprawl15: Also, that guy is Glorfindel Ecthelion.

FTFY.


Yeah, although the two are easily confused. As they both killed, and were killed by, a Balrog during the Fall of Gondolin.
 
2012-09-19 01:06:13 PM

Copperbelly watersnake: Am I the only one thinking Thorin looks more like a half pint klingon than a dwarf?


No, I got a Gowron vibe from him too.
 
2012-09-19 01:10:54 PM

Copperbelly watersnake: Am I the only one thinking Thorin looks more like a half pint klingon than a dwarf?


images.wikia.com

Wot?
 
2012-09-19 01:13:07 PM
Are they not doing the spiders in the forrest...That was my favorite part.
 
2012-09-19 01:16:48 PM

born_yesterday: The Martian Manhandler: After The Hobbit, New Line is making a three movie series out of 'Farmer Giles of Ham'.

Is that the story where the farmer has to fend off a giant or something with a blunderbuss? Or did I imagine all that?

AntonChigger: Fall of Gondolin anyone? An ARMY of Balrogs and other more frightening things, plus that epic one on one duel where the prince stabs the balrog to death with his helmet before they both die.

MOAR of this!


img-fan.theonering.net

or even better... fricking fingolfin taking on Morgoth
images4.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2012-09-19 01:18:44 PM

thecpt: Are they not doing the spiders in the forrest...That was my favorite part.


Or you know, the whole bit about Lake Town. I'm sure they'll get that in too right?
 
2012-09-19 01:21:18 PM

thecpt: Are they not doing the spiders in the forrest...That was my favorite part.


I'm guessing they probably are. It's not like Weta's hurting for a budget, and Jackson's not exactly indifferent to the story.
 
2012-09-19 01:22:13 PM

born_yesterday: The Martian Manhandler: After The Hobbit, New Line is making a three movie series out of 'Farmer Giles of Ham'.

Is that the story where the farmer has to fend off a giant or something with a blunderbuss? Or did I imagine all that?


Yep. That's the one.
 
2012-09-19 01:24:43 PM

perigee: Copperbelly watersnake: Am I the only one thinking Thorin looks more like a half pint klingon than a dwarf?

Gowron.jpg

Wot?


i332.photobucket.com 

Give him a tan and draw some squiggles on his forehead...I could see it.
 
2012-09-19 01:27:20 PM
Why or why did Jackson leave out the Scouring of the Shire? That could have been an entire movie in itself.
 
2012-09-19 01:30:35 PM

badLogic: Why or why did Jackson leave out the Scouring of the Shire? That could have been an entire movie in itself.


That was the problem - it's a bad ending - you've had this huge epic adventure, climax, denouement and then you're off to another little mini-adventure.

It throws the pace completely out of whack
 
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