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2012-09-19 09:58:18 AM  
Bill Kristol has traded off his father's name to point where an entire generation of people have no idea the name 'Kristol' used to mean some of the brightest political thinking in the world.
 
2012-09-19 10:08:31 AM  
This will not hurt him with his base at all. It will turn off independents somewhat but within the Republican base there is a self delusion that is amazing. They cannot see that their taking assistance after their husband died is the same as a poor family taking food stamps because dad lost his job. That accepting money in a federal grant so Junior can go to trade school is just the same as a subsidized head start program in the inner city.

Also deep in the heart many conservatives is the belief that someday soon they will be one of the rich and powerful and when that day comes dammit they are not gonna share shiat with nobody. Because what's the point of being rich if you cannot lord it over every one else?
 
2012-09-19 10:09:17 AM  

WTF Indeed: Bill Kristol has traded off his father's name to point where an entire generation of people have no idea the name 'Kristol' used to mean some of the brightest political thinking in the world.


I liked him better when he made When Harry met Sally. He got arrogant after hosting the Oscars
 
2012-09-19 10:25:18 AM  

NuttierThanEver: This will not hurt him with his base at all.


 
 
2012-09-19 10:46:07 AM  

NuttierThanEver: They cannot see that their taking assistance after their husband died is the same as a poor family taking food stamps because dad lost his job. That accepting money in a federal grant so Junior can go to trade school is just the same as a subsidized head start program in the inner city.

Also deep in the heart many conservatives is the belief that someday soon they will be one of the rich and powerful and when that day comes dammit they are not gonna share shiat with nobody. Because what's the point of being rich if you cannot lord it over every one else?


Pretty much that. I know several people from childhood who grew up at the poverty line. They grew up and eventually eked their way into a lower-middle class suburb and now believe that anyone living at the poverty line trying to survive with a shiat-load of bad luck or a deck stacked against them is mooching off government handouts even if the only thing those individuals "take" from the government is the favorable tax rate.

They don't ignore their own background when spewing nonsense and believing anything they're told, rather they often make up their own reality with respect to their past - "We were a hard working middle-class family!" Bullshiat. Your dad was a drunk and your house was always a mess and your family couldn't even afford to put shiat on layaway at K-Mart.
 
2012-09-19 11:10:26 AM  

NuttierThanEver: This will not hurt him with his base at all.



NuttierThanEver: This will not hurt him with his base at all.


NuttierThanEver: This will not hurt him with his base at all.


NuttierThanEver: This will not hurt him with his base at all.
 
2012-09-19 11:14:20 AM  
And Rich Asshole isn't dropping out of the race anymore than Confederate Goldbug is bringing back the Free Soil Party. 

Get over it, Bill.

Marathon Liar and Cuban Chimichanga will not be the ticket this time.

/Now over to Ollie Williams with the Blackuweather Forecast 
 
2012-09-19 11:19:59 AM  

Somacandra: NuttierThanEver: This will not hurt him with his base at all.

NuttierThanEver: This will not hurt him with his base at all.

NuttierThanEver: This will not hurt him with his base at all.

NuttierThanEver: This will not hurt him with his base at all.


Yeah I've already seen more than one person on my facebook news feed claiming that they changed their minds and are going to vote Romney cause of the 47% thing.
 
2012-09-19 11:52:40 AM  
unless he chooses to step down and we get the Ryan-Rubio ticket we deserve!

wat
 
2012-09-19 12:02:48 PM  
Ouch. That's pretty scathing, but:

NuttierThanEver: This will not hurt him with his base at all.

 
2012-09-19 12:03:24 PM  

GAT_00: unless he chooses to step down and we get the Ryan-Rubio ticket we deserve!

wat


Huntsman-Collins.

Yeah.

/dream on
 
2012-09-19 12:03:36 PM  

GAT_00: unless he chooses to step down and we get the Ryan-Rubio ticket we deserve!

wat


If that happens, make Paul Ryan the star of the next edition of The Bachelor and make him give someone a rose to be his VP nominee before election day.
 
2012-09-19 12:08:41 PM  
FTFA: "Romney seems to have contempt not just for the Democrats who oppose him, but for tens of millions who intend to vote for him."

You're just now picking up on this, Billy boy?
 
2012-09-19 12:15:11 PM  
This is problematic for me... I've lived under the hard-earned assumption that anything that comes from Bill Kristol's mouth is wrong, just by default. This assumption has held a pretty solid track record for me since 2003.

Nah... gotta be an outlier. I'll chalk it up to the broken clock idea.
 
2012-09-19 12:15:11 PM  
Wow. When you're a Republican and you've lost Bill Kristol...

you've lost the race.


It's over. Stick a fork in him, he's done. Strap him to a roof and drive him away; Romney is toast. That's all, folks.
 
2012-09-19 12:15:17 PM  
I can't get past the math of his statement. If 47% of the country will never ever ever ever ever vote for him, then he needs to get 94% of the people that might possibly consider voting for him to win. It seems like that's as good as saying, "It's impossible for me to win this election and you people are throwing your money down a hole."
 
2012-09-19 12:15:29 PM  
www.dependablerenegade.com
 
2012-09-19 12:16:58 PM  

Jackson Herring: Somacandra: NuttierThanEver: This will not hurt him with his base at all.

NuttierThanEver: This will not hurt him with his base at all.

NuttierThanEver: This will not hurt him with his base at all.

NuttierThanEver: This will not hurt him with his base at all.

Yeah I've already seen more than one person on my facebook news feed claiming that they changed their minds and are going to vote Romney cause of the 47% thing.


Bullshiat; they were going to vote Romney in the first place. Nobody who is stupid enough to hear those comments and like Romney even more wasn't going to vote for Romney already.
 
2012-09-19 12:19:59 PM  
Does Mitt not realize he is one of his fabled "47 percent"?

Mitt doesn't pay income tax.

Hell, Mitt doesn't pay payroll taxes either.

Nope, Mitt just grifts on the rest of us hard working Americans, with his "carried interest" and "capital gains" taxed at 15%.
 
2012-09-19 12:20:07 PM  

MithrandirBooga: Jackson Herring: Somacandra: NuttierThanEver: This will not hurt him with his base at all.

NuttierThanEver: This will not hurt him with his base at all.

NuttierThanEver: This will not hurt him with his base at all.

NuttierThanEver: This will not hurt him with his base at all.

Yeah I've already seen more than one person on my facebook news feed claiming that they changed their minds and are going to vote Romney cause of the 47% thing.

Bullshiat; they were going to vote Romney in the first place. Nobody who is stupid enough to hear those comments and like Romney even more wasn't going to vote for Romney already.


I AM seeing a lot of "Romney will win, you'll see!" statements, with a fairly hysterical undertone. The really sad thing is, they don't LIKE Romney, they just hate Obama so so much.
 
DGS [TotalFark]
2012-09-19 12:20:37 PM  

NuttierThanEver: This will not hurt him with his base at all. It will turn off independents somewhat but within the Republican base there is a self delusion that is amazing. They cannot see that their taking assistance after their husband died is the same as a poor family taking food stamps because dad lost his job. That accepting money in a federal grant so Junior can go to trade school is just the same as a subsidized head start program in the inner city.

Also deep in the heart many conservatives is the belief that someday soon they will be one of the rich and powerful and when that day comes dammit they are not gonna share shiat with nobody. Because what's the point of being rich if you cannot lord it over every one else?

 
2012-09-19 12:20:45 PM  
How is collecting dividends any less lazy than collecting welfare?

Collecting dividends is getting money for doing nothing.
 
2012-09-19 12:20:57 PM  
Haha Fun to watch liberals in panic mode. Obama's post-convention bounce has disappeared, his foreign policy resulted in unnecessary deaths, and we now have unequivocal evidence that he's a socialist re-distributor of other people's wealth. The curtain is slowly being pulled back...
 
2012-09-19 12:21:06 PM  
I had hoped Romney's viciously ignorant contempt for countless hard working people struggling to get by on the pensions they earned or with low paying jobs would cost him any chance at being elected.
But if the consistently, almost magically, wrong Bill Kristol agrees his comments hurt him I become worried that they somehow didn't.
 
2012-09-19 12:21:08 PM  

Planterz: This is problematic for me... I've lived under the hard-earned assumption that anything that comes from Bill Kristol's mouth is wrong, just by default. This assumption has held a pretty solid track record for me since 2003.

Nah... gotta be an outlier. I'll chalk it up to the broken clock idea.


Don't give the retard any credit as he hasn't earned it. FTA: " It remains important for the country that Romney wins in November (unless he chooses to step down and we get the Ryan-Rubio ticket we deserve!),"

Basically he said that no matter how bad Romney is and how insensitive he is to half the country he's still better than Obama. This retard is the very definition of the GOP ideal: party before country.
 
2012-09-19 12:21:33 PM  

WTF Indeed: Bill Kristol has traded off his father's name to point where an entire generation of people have no idea the name 'Kristol' used to mean some of the brightest political thinking in the world.


Kristol's cousin also invented modern methamphetamines.
 
2012-09-19 12:22:03 PM  
www.cbpp.org
 
2012-09-19 12:22:52 PM  

Jackson Herring: Yeah I've already seen more than one person on my facebook news feed claiming that they changed their minds and are going to vote Romney cause of the 47% thing.


Glad to see he's voting. Let's ensure nobody is prevented from voting this election.

Romney just can't do anything right. It is pretty pathetic that he's this bad and that he has so much support despite it.
 
2012-09-19 12:23:34 PM  

UberDave: NuttierThanEver: They cannot see that their taking assistance after their husband died is the same as a poor family taking food stamps because dad lost his job. That accepting money in a federal grant so Junior can go to trade school is just the same as a subsidized head start program in the inner city.

Also deep in the heart many conservatives is the belief that someday soon they will be one of the rich and powerful and when that day comes dammit they are not gonna share shiat with nobody. Because what's the point of being rich if you cannot lord it over every one else?

Pretty much that. I know several people from childhood who grew up at the poverty line. They grew up and eventually eked their way into a lower-middle class suburb and now believe that anyone living at the poverty line trying to survive with a shiat-load of bad luck or a deck stacked against them is mooching off government handouts even if the only thing those individuals "take" from the government is the favorable tax rate.

They don't ignore their own background when spewing nonsense and believing anything they're told, rather they often make up their own reality with respect to their past - "We were a hard working middle-class family!" Bullshiat. Your dad was a drunk and your house was always a mess and your family couldn't even afford to put shiat on layaway at K-Mart.



I don't know about whether they really do or don't ignore their background, but it's clear that many haven't taken the time for introspecting their own past.

"What happened to society? I go into business, I don't make it, I go bankrupt. I've been on food stamps and welfare, did anybody help me out? No. No. They gave me hope, they gave me encouragement, and they gave me a vision." -- Craig T. Nelson
 
2012-09-19 12:24:28 PM  
Wishful

Thinking
 
2012-09-19 12:25:17 PM  

Jackson Herring: Yeah I've already seen more than one person on my facebook news feed claiming that they changed their minds and are going to vote Romney cause of the 47% thing.


Fark Independents
 
2012-09-19 12:26:03 PM  

Jackson Herring:
Yeah I've already seen more than one person on my facebook news feed claiming that they changed their minds and are going to vote Romney cause of the 47% thing.


Have you considered the possibility that you might have stupid friends?
 
2012-09-19 12:26:09 PM  

NuttierThanEver: This will not hurt him with his base at all. It will turn off independents somewhat but within the Republican base there is a self delusion that is amazing. They cannot see that their taking assistance after their husband died is the same as a poor family taking food stamps because dad lost his job. That accepting money in a federal grant so Junior can go to trade school is just the same as a subsidized head start program in the inner city.

Also deep in the heart many conservatives is the belief that someday soon they will be one of the rich and powerful and when that day comes dammit they are not gonna share shiat with nobody. Because what's the point of being rich if you cannot lord it over every one else?


Same reason why pregnant anti-abortion women in that area still get abortions and manage to delude themselves to thinking that it's different in their case.
 
2012-09-19 12:26:27 PM  
tctechcrunch2011.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-09-19 12:27:08 PM  

Agneska: Haha Fun to watch liberals in panic mode. Obama's post-convention bounce has disappeared, his foreign policy resulted in unnecessary deaths, and we now have unequivocal evidence that he's a socialist re-distributor of other people's wealth. The curtain is slowly being pulled back...


Is it hurt having Rush Limbaugh's hand shoved so far up your ass?
 
2012-09-19 12:28:01 PM  

pacified: How is collecting dividends any less lazy than collecting welfare?

Collecting dividends is getting money for doing nothing.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rentier
 
2012-09-19 12:29:13 PM  

i_got_no_strings: Jackson Herring:
Yeah I've already seen more than one person on my facebook news feed claiming that they changed their minds and are going to vote Romney cause of the 47% thing.

Have you considered the possibility that you might have stupid friends?


I considered it for about two seconds before unfriending them
 
2012-09-19 12:29:41 PM  

Agneska: Haha Fun to watch liberals in panic mode. Obama's post-convention bounce has disappeared, his foreign policy resulted in unnecessary deaths, and we now have unequivocal evidence that he's a socialist re-distributor of other people's wealth. The curtain is slowly being pulled back...

 

designthatmatters.net
 
2012-09-19 12:30:30 PM  

HeartBurnKid: FTFA: "Romney seems to have contempt not just for the Democrats who oppose him, but for tens of millions who intend to vote for him."

You're just now picking up on this, Billy boy?


That's what makes me laugh, what with all these conservative pundits in the last day or two. How delusional do you have to be honestly think he WASN'T out of touch with the common person? I mean that was one of his biggest flaws as a candidate.

They just dismissed it as an unfair attack on Romney from the liberal media, but look where they are now.... reality does indeed have a liberal bias... you decided to make that bed with Romney, now you gotta sleep in it.
 
2012-09-19 12:31:36 PM  

The comparison to "bittergate" is a specious false equivalency:



Some pundits have likened Romney's comments to Barack Obama's 2008 monologue, also secretly recorded at a fund-raiser, about his difficulties with white working class voters in rural Pennsylvania. But the spirit of Obama's remarks was precisely the opposite of Romney's. While Obama couched his beliefs in condescending sociological analysis about how poor small town residents vote on the basis of guns and religion rather than economics, the thrust of Obama's argument was that he believed his policies would help them, and to urge his supporters to make common cause with them:

But the truth is, is that, our challenge is to get people persuaded that we can make progress when there's not evidence of that in their daily lives. You go into some of these small towns in Pennsylvania, and like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing's replaced them. And they fell through the Clinton administration, and the Bush administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are gonna regenerate and they have not. So it's not surprising then that they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.

Um, now these are in some communities, you know. I think what you'll find is, is that people of every background - there are gonna be a mix of people, you can go in the toughest neighborhoods, you know working-class lunch-pail folks, you'll find Obama enthusiasts. And you can go into places where you think I'd be very strong and people will just be skeptical. The important thing is that you show up and you're doing what you're doing.


Compare to:

"There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. All right, there are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it -- that that's an entitlement. And the government should give it to them. And they will vote for this president no matter what. ... These are people who pay no income tax. ... [M]y job is not to worry about those people. I'll never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives."
 
2012-09-19 12:31:50 PM  

MithrandirBooga: Jackson Herring: Somacandra: NuttierThanEver: This will not hurt him with his base at all.

NuttierThanEver: This will not hurt him with his base at all.

NuttierThanEver: This will not hurt him with his base at all.

NuttierThanEver: This will not hurt him with his base at all.

Yeah I've already seen more than one person on my facebook news feed claiming that they changed their minds and are going to vote Romney cause of the 47% thing.

Bullshiat; they were going to vote Romney in the first place. Nobody who is stupid enough to hear those comments and like Romney even more wasn't going to vote for Romney already.


First thing I thought too...

/sounds like someone trying to spin this as a positive
 
2012-09-19 12:32:15 PM  
This whole disgusting "people only vote for Obama to protect their benefits" attack thing has been going on for a while now. Dunno why people just noticed it now.

Here's a link from back in April.
 
2012-09-19 12:34:00 PM  
I find it interesting that for weeks the dialog as been only about Romney/Ryan and it is all negative.
 
2012-09-19 12:34:47 PM  
Obama's comments were arrogant and condescending. Still doesn't make them wrong.
 
2012-09-19 12:35:47 PM  
Fact: It's not cognitive dissonance to the one having it.
 
2012-09-19 12:36:12 PM  

Agneska: Haha Fun to watch liberals in panic mode. Obama's post-convention bounce has disappeared, his foreign policy resulted in unnecessary deaths, and we now have unequivocal evidence that he's a socialist re-distributor of other people's wealth. The curtain is slowly being pulled back...


Panic? We're one step away from lighting cigars and drinking some brandy. What are you on about?
 
2012-09-19 12:36:12 PM  

NuttierThanEver: This will not hurt him with his base at all.


It hurts Romney because this is yet one more week where the news is dominated by Obama looking presidential with the mid-east riots and Romney talking about stupid shiat. Romney is behind in the polls; he has ground to make up. To do that, Romney's team needs to do is get the news cycle to be about 1) the 'Obama Economy' and 2) what Romney will do to fix it. Obama's team is trolling Romney like champions and they have Romney chasing his tail.
 
2012-09-19 12:36:27 PM  
"The problem with the American Dream is that we all look forward to the day when we become rich"

/West Wing quote for everything
//and everything a West Wing quote
 
2012-09-19 12:38:26 PM  

jst3p: I find it interesting that for weeks the dialog as been only about Romney/Ryan and it is all negative.


Because Obama is pretty much running a rather boring, uneventful campaign? He is being as generic as possible (see his mundane DNC speech) and letting Mitt/Ryan do all the talking. And it is working rather spectacularly. mitt is getting all the (wrong) headlines and Obama stays out of them...and continually erodes Mitts support.

Romney is fighting himself...

Oh wait, lemme guess, libruhl media conspiracy? Kristol and Noonan are in on it too i suppose?
 
2012-09-19 12:39:34 PM  

NuttierThanEver: Also deep in the heart many conservatives is the belief that someday soon they will be one of the rich and powerful and when that day comes dammit they are not gonna share shiat with nobody. Because what's the point of being rich if you cannot lord it over every one else?


Some folks don't have to be objectively well-off to be content, they just need to be better than everyone around them. People are like that, and it won't go away until a generation or two after we forcibly sterilize anyone with a positive view of Sarah Palin.
 
2012-09-19 12:41:30 PM  
Fact: Uneducated baby mama's ain't gonna vote for Obama cause he ain't done nuthin to get them a job.
 
2012-09-19 12:42:11 PM  

sprawl15: WTF Indeed: Bill Kristol has traded off his father's name to point where an entire generation of people have no idea the name 'Kristol' used to mean some of the brightest political thinking in the world.

Kristol's cousin also invented modern methamphetamines.


This is relevant to Rush Limbaugh's interests.
 
2012-09-19 12:44:13 PM  

Muta: NuttierThanEver: This will not hurt him with his base at all.

It hurts Romney because this is yet one more week where the news is dominated by Obama looking presidential with the mid-east riots and Romney talking about stupid shiat. Romney is behind in the polls; he has ground to make up. To do that, Romney's team needs to do is get the news cycle to be about 1) the 'Obama Economy' and 2) what Romney will do to fix it. Obama's team is trolling Romney like champions and they have Romney chasing his tail.


I would add that the problem Romney has is that he is absolutely tapped out in support. He's got about as much as he's going to get, considering his strategy.
 
2012-09-19 12:44:15 PM  

pacified: How is collecting dividends any less lazy than collecting welfare?

Collecting dividends is getting money for doing nothing having money.


FTFY.
/Big difference.
 
2012-09-19 12:44:17 PM  
I think we are in the middle of a huge shift within the GOP. Something has gone terribly wrong. Sarah Palin was a leading indicator, an early warning of an absolute train wreck.

I still refuse to believe that Romney did not mention our troops overseas in his DNC speech. That is absolutely impossible.

Is Sarah Palin somehow behind the New GOP?
 
2012-09-19 12:44:25 PM  

NuttierThanEver:
Also deep in the heart many conservatives is the belief that someday soon they will be one of the rich and powerful


Any of my friends, coworkers, relatives, neighbors, or friends of friends that are Republicans believe this so much, you'd think millionaires grow on trees.
 
2012-09-19 12:45:05 PM  

Skleenar: Compare to:

"(. . .) [M]y job is not to worry about those people. I'll never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives."


Exactly. Romney was saying that all he is concerned about are the people who vote for him. Compare that to what Romney said on Letterman last night, he reiterated his inaugural speech where he said that he sees his job as a representative for everyone; the people who voted for him as well as the those who didn't.
 
2012-09-19 12:45:40 PM  

WTF Indeed: Bill Kristol has traded off his father's name to point where an entire generation of people have no idea the name 'Kristol' used to mean some of the brightest political thinking in the world.


S'okay, "Romney" used to mean hard-working, decent, moderate Republican poltician. 

Being from Michigan you'd think Romney the Younger would know how dangerous it is to be a deer in the headlights:

a.abcnews.com
 
2012-09-19 12:47:32 PM  
Gah. I mean in his RNC speech....
 
2012-09-19 12:47:46 PM  

Citrate1007: Fact: Uneducated baby mama's ain't gonna vote for Obama cause he ain't done nuthin to get them a job.


"Obama is no baby-mama zaibatsu-sama"?
 
2012-09-19 12:48:43 PM  
imageshack.us
 
2012-09-19 12:50:45 PM  

UberDave: NuttierThanEver: They cannot see that their taking assistance after their husband died is the same as a poor family taking food stamps because dad lost his job. That accepting money in a federal grant so Junior can go to trade school is just the same as a subsidized head start program in the inner city.

Also deep in the heart many conservatives is the belief that someday soon they will be one of the rich and powerful and when that day comes dammit they are not gonna share shiat with nobody. Because what's the point of being rich if you cannot lord it over every one else?

Pretty much that. I know several people from childhood who grew up at the poverty line. They grew up and eventually eked their way into a lower-middle class suburb and now believe that anyone living at the poverty line trying to survive with a shiat-load of bad luck or a deck stacked against them is mooching off government handouts even if the only thing those individuals "take" from the government is the favorable tax rate.

They don't ignore their own background when spewing nonsense and believing anything they're told, rather they often make up their own reality with respect to their past - "We were a hard working middle-class family!" Bullshiat. Your dad was a drunk and your house was always a mess and your family couldn't even afford to put shiat on layaway at K-Mart.


Twas' ever thus. Look at the history of New York City, the new immigrants occupying the slums of NYC were invariably most viciously attacked by the ethnic group that had just recently vacated them. Thus the English crapped on the Irish, the Irish treated the Italiians and Eastern Europeans like shiat, they gave crap to the blacks, and the blacks showed antipathy towards the Puerto Ricans.

The folks who are on the edge between poor and lower middle class are the ones most fearful of having something taken away from them, the ones it is most easy to demagogue into blaming someone else for thier situation in life
 
2012-09-19 12:51:42 PM  

Craptastic: Agneska: Haha Fun to watch liberals in panic mode. Obama's post-convention bounce has disappeared, his foreign policy resulted in unnecessary deaths, and we now have unequivocal evidence that he's a socialist re-distributor of other people's wealth. The curtain is slowly being pulled back...

Panic? We're one step away from lighting cigars and drinking some brandy. What are you on about?


Now now. We liberals HAVE had to scale back. I'm ordering domestic cigars and blended brandy.
 
2012-09-19 12:55:37 PM  

Somacandra: NuttierThanEver: This will not hurt him with his base at all.

NuttierThanEver: This will not hurt him with his base at all.

NuttierThanEver: This will not hurt him with his base at all.

NuttierThanEver: This will not hurt him with his base at all.



the saddest, but most likely truest analysis of this debacle comes from the uber-conservative Washington Examiner

Tax data show that of the 10 states with the highest percentage of nontaxpayers, eight are deep-red states in the South, where voters overwhelmingly support Romney. The remarks are unlikely to turn any of those states toward Obama.
 
2012-09-19 12:55:52 PM  

Skleenar: [imageshack.us image 640x360]


You know, if you make his chin bigger, he almost looks like Bruce Campbell in that picture.
 
2012-09-19 12:56:42 PM  

asmodeus224: jst3p: I find it interesting that for weeks the dialog as been only about Romney/Ryan and it is all negative.

Because Obama is pretty much running a rather boring, uneventful campaign? He is being as generic as possible (see his mundane DNC speech) and letting Mitt/Ryan do all the talking. And it is working rather spectacularly. mitt is getting all the (wrong) headlines and Obama stays out of them...and continually erodes Mitts support.

Romney is fighting himself...

Oh wait, lemme guess, libruhl media conspiracy? Kristol and Noonan are in on it too i suppose?


I was not implying any such thing, I was making an observation. And I agree, if your opponent is kicking his own ass the best move is to shut up and let him.
 
2012-09-19 12:58:24 PM  

jst3p: I find it interesting that for weeks the dialog as been only about Romney/Ryan and it is all negative.


And we haven't even had a single debate yet.
 
2012-09-19 12:58:35 PM  

Agneska: Haha Fun to watch liberals in panic mode. Obama's post-convention bounce has disappeared, his foreign policy resulted in unnecessary deaths, and we now have unequivocal evidence that he's a socialist re-distributor of other people's wealth. The curtain is slowly being pulled back...


dafuq?

oh wait.....

-1/10

you totally phoned that in.
 
2012-09-19 12:59:31 PM  
Now we're getting the "Romney will put real men in the White House again" derp from other Republicans:

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/09/19/nc-state-senator-says-romney-ry a n-win-would-mean-real-men-in-the-white-house/

As a voter from North Carolina, I'd like to apologize for the rancid political idiocy that this state appears to have created recently. We're not all like this, honest.
 
2012-09-19 01:00:15 PM  

Citrate1007: Fact: Uneducated baby mama's ain't gonna vote for Obama cause he ain't done nuthin to get them a job.


The funniest thing about the videotape is that for all the crap Romney is getting about his "47%" remark, he seems to be getting a pass on the "Ms. South Carolina Moment" he had in the very next sentence. Can YOU make this sentence make a single bit of logical sense?

"My campaign is about helping people take more responsibility and becoming employed again, particularly those who don't have work. His whole campaign is based on getting people jobs again, putting people back to work"

If it weren't for that horse...
 
2012-09-19 01:08:21 PM  
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2012-09-19 01:10:25 PM  

impaler: [www.cbpp.org image 288x235]


A notable amount of people on the payroll tax are soldiers in the military.

So basically Romney is doing this to his own base:

gifs.gifbin.com
 
2012-09-19 01:10:53 PM  

jst3p: asmodeus224: jst3p: I find it interesting that for weeks the dialog as been only about Romney/Ryan and it is all negative.

Because Obama is pretty much running a rather boring, uneventful campaign? He is being as generic as possible (see his mundane DNC speech) and letting Mitt/Ryan do all the talking. And it is working rather spectacularly. mitt is getting all the (wrong) headlines and Obama stays out of them...and continually erodes Mitts support.

Romney is fighting himself...

Oh wait, lemme guess, libruhl media conspiracy? Kristol and Noonan are in on it too i suppose?

I was not implying any such thing, I was making an observation. And I agree, if your opponent is kicking his own ass the best move is to shut up and let him.


sorry, i mistook your 'i find it interesting...' for either concern trolling or a hint at a liberuhl media conspiracy.

/puts away claws
 
2012-09-19 01:11:35 PM  

Jackson Herring: Somacandra: NuttierThanEver: This will not hurt him with his base at all.

NuttierThanEver: This will not hurt him with his base at all.

NuttierThanEver: This will not hurt him with his base at all.

NuttierThanEver: This will not hurt him with his base at all.

Yeah I've already seen more than one person on my facebook news feed claiming that they changed their minds and are going to vote Romney cause of the 47% thing.


yeah changed their minds eye roll.
 
2012-09-19 01:16:21 PM  

Somacandra: NuttierThanEver: This will not hurt him with his base at all.

NuttierThanEver: This will not hurt him with his base at all.

NuttierThanEver: This will not hurt him with his base at all.

NuttierThanEver: This will not hurt him with his base at all.


we don't need for it to hurt his base. we need for it to hurt the undecided voter.
 
2012-09-19 01:17:32 PM  

sprawl15: WTF Indeed: Bill Kristol has traded off his father's name to point where an entire generation of people have no idea the name 'Kristol' used to mean some of the brightest political thinking in the world.

Kristol's cousin also invented modern methamphetamines.


Are you calling Kristol's cousin a nazi?

The Nazi Method
The so called Nazi meth recipe for crank is talking about that during the end of WWII the Nazis had a hard time getting their meth made so they came up with a recipe to make it in the field. Since it basically works the same as the Red White and Blue method which is ironic! Its also called the Birch reduction method. Im not going to show this whole method but well take a look at the ingredients that are different in this method and they are:


Yeah I'm not going to link where that is from.
 
2012-09-19 01:20:08 PM  

pacified: How is collecting dividends any less lazy than collecting welfare?

Collecting dividends is getting money for doing nothing.


that's not fair, some people work very hard to acquire capital in order to make these profits later on.

/his dad had to be, convinced, CONVINCED to give him an extra 100K for walking around money.
 
2012-09-19 01:22:27 PM  

August11: I think we are in the middle of a huge shift within the GOP. Something has gone terribly wrong. Sarah Palin was a leading indicator, an early warning of an absolute train wreck.

I still refuse to believe that Romney did not mention our troops overseas in his DNCRNC speech. That is absolutely impossible.

Is Sarah Palin somehow behind the New GOP?


FTFY
 
2012-09-19 01:23:58 PM  

pacified: How is collecting dividends any less lazy than collecting welfare?

Collecting dividends is getting money for doing nothing.


I've scrimped and saved for decades to build up a portfolio that provides a decent dividend income, as a small business owner/employee that's going to be my pension.
So, respectfully, go f*** yourself, I built that.

It does both amuse and appall me that my investment income is taxed less than my work income though.
 
2012-09-19 01:24:42 PM  

Agneska: Haha Fun to watch liberals in panic mode. Obama's post-convention bounce has disappeared, his foreign policy resulted in unnecessary deaths, and we now have unequivocal evidence that he's a socialist re-distributor of other people's wealth. The curtain is slowly being pulled back...


go eat a box full of boxes of dicks.
 
2012-09-19 01:40:54 PM  

Jackson Herring: Somacandra: NuttierThanEver: This will not hurt him with his base at all.

NuttierThanEver: This will not hurt him with his base at all.

NuttierThanEver: This will not hurt him with his base at all.

NuttierThanEver: This will not hurt him with his base at all.

Yeah I've already seen more than one person on my facebook news feed claiming that they changed their minds and are going to vote Romney cause of the 47% thing.


Let me guess. You're friend describes himself as "more of a libertarian."

He was always going to vote for Rmoney.
 
2012-09-19 01:41:42 PM  

ArkPanda: I can't get past the math of his statement. If 47% of the country will never ever ever ever ever vote for him, then he needs to get 94% of the people that might possibly consider voting for him to win. It seems like that's as good as saying, "It's impossible for me to win this election and you people are throwing your money down a hole."


Political demographers have been all over this for the past month or so...there simply aren't anywhere near enough "likely GOP voters" for Romney to win. He MUST have a strong swing on "yet undecideds" to have a hope of victory, and every time he's opened his mouth in the past month he has alienated more of them.

In short, Romney in 2012 is the Dole '96 of his time...

lh5.ggpht.com
 
2012-09-19 01:42:30 PM  
It's probably a bad sign for Romney that he's being called arrogant and stupid by Bill Kristol, of all people.
 
2012-09-19 01:43:31 PM  

Agneska: we now have unequivocal evidence that he's a socialist re-distributor of other people's wealth.


Sorry but Dwight D. Eisenhower isn't going to run either.
 
2012-09-19 01:49:02 PM  

AnEvilGuest: as a small business owner/employee that's going to be my pension.


So after you retire you're going to expect to get paid while sitting around sucking everyone else's oxygen? That doesn't sound very bootstrappy.
 
2012-09-19 01:54:05 PM  

AcneVulgaris: The really sad funny thing is, they don't LIKE Romney, they just hate Obama so so much.


You kidding me? This shiat is hilarious.
 
2012-09-19 02:10:40 PM  

StoneColdAtheist: ArkPanda: I can't get past the math of his statement. If 47% of the country will never ever ever ever ever vote for him, then he needs to get 94% of the people that might possibly consider voting for him to win. It seems like that's as good as saying, "It's impossible for me to win this election and you people are throwing your money down a hole."

Political demographers have been all over this for the past month or so...there simply aren't anywhere near enough "likely GOP voters" for Romney to win. He MUST have a strong swing on "yet undecideds" to have a hope of victory, and every time he's opened his mouth in the past month he has alienated more of them.

In short, Romney in 2012 is the Dole '96 of his time...

[lh5.ggpht.com image 500x371]


AFAIC that's an insult...to Dole '96.

I always regard him as the sacrificial lamb that the GOP put up because no one else wanted to deal with the curbstomping Clinton was going to give in '96.
 
2012-09-19 02:30:49 PM  

Rwa2play: I always regard him as the sacrificial lamb that the GOP put up because no one else wanted to deal with the curbstomping Clinton was going to give in '96.


And Dole wasn't really a bad guy. You could talk to the man and agree/disagree with him. He was old school. Republicans these days? Fuh. No dealing with them at all.
 
2012-09-19 02:32:26 PM  
So here's a question for those of us not taking crazy pills:

What percentage of individuals (not families, not households) actually have income and pay taxes on it? I think it's only around 40%.
 
2012-09-19 02:45:15 PM  

Somacandra: AnEvilGuest: as a small business owner/employee that's going to be my pension.

So after you retire you're going to expect to get paid while sitting around sucking everyone else's oxygen? That doesn't sound very bootstrappy.


After I retire?

I'm getting right paid now for sucking up other peoples oxygen both from my portfolio and when my partners and I distribute dividends from the money our employees worked for.

MwaHaHaHa! 

I'm still not going to say some poor bastard scraping by at a low paying job is a parasite that won't "take responsibility for his own life" because his pay is so low he qualifies for an earned income tax credit.

I can't even imagine being that much of an out of touch, over entitled, silver spoon douche bag.
 
2012-09-19 02:45:52 PM  
When I was in college I paid no taxes and earned very little.

I was part of the 47%.

I wonder if Romney's dad claimed Mitt while he was in school on his taxes.

Because that would make Romney once part of the 47%.

Thoughts?

Of course no one will read this or respond. unless I put a picture with it of something unrelated.

media.ksee24.com
 
2012-09-19 03:03:43 PM  
It's too late to drop out. Voting has already begun in several states. You can't stop this train and you definitely can't change the ticket. Someone should have brought these issues up before Romney accepted the nomination
 
2012-09-19 03:34:01 PM  
Southern evangelical crackers will still vote for this cult leader in droves. Don't ask me to explain the cognitive dissonance required to do that. Yes, they're farking idiots.
 
2012-09-19 03:52:46 PM  

Lost Thought 00: It's too late to drop out. Voting has already begun in several states. You can't stop this train and you definitely can't change the ticket. Someone should have brought these issues up before Romney accepted the nomination


If only there were some sort of primary system where you vetted the possible candidates and got rid of the wackjobs. Wait, what? They did?? ROFL
 
2012-09-19 03:53:35 PM  

Rwa2play: StoneColdAtheist: In short, Romney in 2012 is the Dole '96 of his time...

AFAIC that's an insult...to Dole '96.

I always regard him as the sacrificial lamb that the GOP put up because no one else wanted to deal with the curbstomping Clinton was going to give in '96.


Exactly my point...Mr Obama is going to curb-stomp Mittens.

/i do concede that my comments might have reflected unfairly on Dole's personal qualities...sorry
 
2012-09-19 03:57:20 PM  

Lost Thought 00: It's too late to drop out. Voting has already begun in several states. You can't stop this train and you definitely can't change the ticket. Someone should have brought these issues up before Romney accepted the nomination


"Hi there!"

images.politico.com
 
2012-09-19 05:09:43 PM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Lost Thought 00: It's too late to drop out. Voting has already begun in several states. You can't stop this train and you definitely can't change the ticket. Someone should have brought these issues up before Romney accepted the nomination

"Hi there!"

[images.politico.com image 605x328]


This man made Romney look good......this is why the Christian Conservatives need to be removed from the party and forced into single issue politics where they can be lambasted for their idiocy rather than allowed to sit at the grown ups table
 
2012-09-19 05:18:37 PM  
Mitt Romney would make a better anemone than a nominee, according to an enemy with animosity.
 
2012-09-19 05:19:06 PM  

Agneska: Haha Fun to watch liberals in panic mode. Obama's post-convention bounce has disappeared, his foreign policy resulted in unnecessary deaths, and we now have unequivocal evidence that he's a socialist re-distributor of other people's wealth. The curtain is slowly being pulled back...


Hoe did you misspell 'freerepublic' so badly that you wound up on Fark?
 
2012-09-19 05:20:44 PM  

Five Tails of Fury: Agneska: Haha Fun to watch liberals in panic mode. Obama's post-convention bounce has disappeared, his foreign policy resulted in unnecessary deaths, and we now have unequivocal evidence that he's a socialist re-distributor of other people's wealth. The curtain is slowly being pulled back...

Hoe How did you misspell 'freerepublic' so badly that you wound up on Fark?


ftfm

/i spel gud
//though 'ho' does describe the right-wing media considering how fast they go down on their rich corporate kings so maybe I was closer than I thought
 
MFL
2012-09-19 05:28:06 PM  
Uh Oh.....it looks like Mitt Romney lost the election again!!!

If you take away the media driven democrat oversampled polling, the numbers are basically where they were before the conventions. USA today, Rassmussen, Gallup

1. Obama's convention bounce is gone in every poll that doesn't grossly oversample democrats.

2. While the media is focusing like a laserbeam on every wart Romney might have, the middle east is burning, the economy is still shiatty, and our Federal reserve is damaging the country beyond repair. (People actually do pay attention to this.)

3. If Romney had the press rooting for him like they root for Obama and they actually had accurate polling samples that reflected what the vote is going to be, he'd be up by 20.

The media is jumping the shark on this and at some point it will backfire. Romney just needs to grab his balls and call them out on it. His base is dying to see him take the gloves off and fight back. The press is obviously doing everything they can to take him out, and he just needs to reassure his side that they aren't going to do him in and punch back twice as hard. The fact that our embassy was attacked by terrorists on September 11th and our president and media is AWOL speaks louder than any whitehouse talking point repeated by their friends in the press. Just because Andrea Mitchel isn't talking about it doesn't mean the public don't know it's happening.

Despite Romney "losing the election" last week Obama's post convention bounce evaporated. Despite the media pushing the narrative that "Romney just lost the election this week"..... it won't matter much.

Obama's turd polishing media does more to motivate GOP turnout than just about anything else anyway.  Expect it to shamelessly continue all the way through election day....and then relish in their tears when it's called for Romney.  The fact that 90% of the media is actively campaigning for the president and he can't close the deal speaks volumes.

So go ahead libs, jerk off to your NBC/CBS or Pew fantasy polls. They are not accurate, but might make you feel good for a few days.
 
2012-09-19 05:37:50 PM  

Bendal: Now we're getting the "Romney will put real men in the White House again" derp from other Republicans:

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/09/19/nc-state-senator-says-romney-ry a n-win-would-mean-real-men-in-the-white-house/

As a voter from North Carolina, I'd like to apologize for the rancid political idiocy that this state appears to have created recently. We're not all like this, honest.



Heh..I just tweeted at him.."Mitt is still not going to sleep with you".
 
2012-09-19 05:45:29 PM  

MFL: Uh Oh.....it looks like Mitt Romney lost the election again!!!

If you take away the media driven democrat oversampled polling, the numbers are basically where they were before the conventions. USA today, Rassmussen, Gallup

1. Obama's convention bounce is gone in every poll that doesn't grossly oversample democrats.

2. While the media is focusing like a laserbeam on every wart Romney might have, the middle east is burning, the economy is still shiatty, and our Federal reserve is damaging the country beyond repair. (People actually do pay attention to this.)

3. If Romney had the press rooting for him like they root for Obama and they actually had accurate polling samples that reflected what the vote is going to be, he'd be up by 20.

The media is jumping the shark on this and at some point it will backfire. Romney just needs to grab his balls and call them out on it. His base is dying to see him take the gloves off and fight back. The press is obviously doing everything they can to take him out, and he just needs to reassure his side that they aren't going to do him in and punch back twice as hard. The fact that our embassy was attacked by terrorists on September 11th and our president and media is AWOL speaks louder than any whitehouse talking point repeated by their friends in the press. Just because Andrea Mitchel isn't talking about it doesn't mean the public don't know it's happening.

Despite Romney "losing the election" last week Obama's post convention bounce evaporated. Despite the media pushing the narrative that "Romney just lost the election this week"..... it won't matter much.

Obama's turd polishing media does more to motivate GOP turnout than just about anything else anyway.  Expect it to shamelessly continue all the way through election day....and then relish in their tears when it's called for Romney.  The fact that 90% of the media is actively campaigning for the president and he can't close the deal speaks volumes.

So go ahead libs, ...


I so can't wait for Mitt the Twit to lose so you can eat some crow.
 
2012-09-19 06:23:09 PM  

MFL: I am a delusional sociopath.


Why yes you are! Some things never change, eh?
 
2012-09-19 06:25:09 PM  

MFL: Uh Oh.....it looks like Mitt Romney lost the election again!!!

If you take away the media driven democrat oversampled polling, the numbers are basically where they were before the conventions. USA today, Rassmussen, Gallup.


I hate to break the news to you, but your favorite pollsters have not been polling persons who use only cellphones, or roughly one-third of American households. New analysis shows those polls to be worthless, and that Romney is going to get crushed in November. Read Nate Silver's latest NYT article for the low-down.

Stick a fork in Mitt...he's done.
 
2012-09-19 06:26:07 PM  

Agneska: Haha Fun to watch liberals in panic mode. Obama's post-convention bounce has disappeared, his foreign policy resulted in unnecessary deaths, and we now have unequivocal evidence that he's a socialist re-distributor of other people's wealth. The curtain is slowly being pulled back...


I liked you better when you weren't here.
 
2012-09-19 06:28:44 PM  
There's this and the conservative pundits who are coming out against Romney. Even Fox news is less than enthusiastic and has actually leveled some criticism at Romney. And these are the people who, for the most part, never publicly turned against George W. Bush despite the disaster and idiocy that was his Presidency. It just shows you how very much they dislike Romney and how little hope they have that Romney will win.
 
2012-09-19 06:41:36 PM  
MFL: 2. While the media is focusing like a laserbeam on every wart Romney might have, the middle east is burning,

Sorry to burst your bubble, but the Middle East is not burning and it wasn't burning a week ago.

There are ~10 million people who live in the Cairo metropolitan area. About 300 of them showed up to protest/riot. It was the same in other countries, a few hundred protesters from a population of millions. And they went home pretty quickly. It was a minor blip
 
2012-09-19 06:59:47 PM  

MFL: ...and our Federal reserve is damaging the country beyond repair. (People actually do pay attention to this.)


No, they really don't.

As far as accurate polling goes, what % of the population do you think is Democrat, vs. Republican?
 
2012-09-19 08:40:55 PM  

Phins: There's this and the conservative pundits who are coming out against Romney. Even Fox news is less than enthusiastic and has actually leveled some criticism at Romney. And these are the people who, for the most part, never publicly turned against George W. Bush despite the disaster and idiocy that was his Presidency. It just shows you how very much they dislike Romney and how little hope they have that Romney will win.


I think that FOX is worried that their business model might disappear if Mitt won. What Obama Did Wrong Today.
 
2012-09-19 11:55:28 PM  
STOP QUOTING THAT PERAMBULATING DETACHED VAGINA!
 
2012-09-20 02:31:23 AM  

Kittypie070: STOP QUOTING THAT PERAMBULATING DETACHED VAGINA!


Which one? You're going to have to narrow it down a little.
 
2012-09-20 03:39:19 AM  

Bucky Katt: Kittypie070: STOP QUOTING THAT PERAMBULATING DETACHED VAGINA!

Which one? You're going to have to narrow it down a little.


I"m still trying to clear my head of the image itself.
 
2012-09-21 01:10:42 AM  
Badly programmed skinjobs constantly screeching the phrase "socialist re-distributor of other people's wealth" come to mind, as far as aforementioned detached....um, thingys.
 
2012-09-21 10:37:04 AM  

Kittypie070: Badly programmed skinjobs constantly screeching the phrase "socialist re-distributor of other people's wealth" come to mind, as far as aforementioned detached....um, thingys.


"Skinjobs"...the 23rd century N-word.

/not obscure at all
 
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