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2012-09-19 11:53:47 AM
Hey, If I direct a movie, and put on the canvas what I want. I'm the artist. If someone butcheres it, they are the butcher.
Problem is, most Americans will eat McDonalds, and forgo a farking steak.
Me, The less the butcher is involved, the better.
Whack his dick and horns of and bring me the rest.
 
2012-09-19 01:34:03 PM
With few exceptions, I don't see movies in the theater anyway, so it makes little difference to me. However, I also don't see the problem with releasing an "extended cut" or whatever they call it. You have to deal with the market realities and while there are a lot of people like the author who would like to see the full version in the theater, more people buy tickets to movies rated lower than R... that's it, that's all it is, production companies don't make enough money off of rated R movies, generally, to justify their costs.
 
2012-09-19 01:45:29 PM
People are just figuring this out? As a horror movie fan, no matter how good the trailer may look, if we see "PG-13" my friends and I groan, ignore it, and maybe watch the extended cut on Netflix. They think they'll get more young people in, and maybe they do. But they completely cut off anyone I know (my whole group spans late 20s-late 30s) from going because we don't want to see a movie chopped up so the kids can (a) get in and be annoying and (b) enjoy it. So we pass.

I've been saying this for years, though. If they released good, (and while we're at it -- original, not remakes and reboots) horror movies that were R-rated? I'd go. Otherwise, maybe Netflix. Maybe HBO. Maybe never. PG-13 horror (or action) movies are rarely worth it.
 
2012-09-19 02:00:33 PM

serpent_sky: Maybe never. PG-13 horror (or action) movies are rarely worth it


"Yippie Kayay Motherf-" *BOOOM*
 
2012-09-19 02:35:32 PM
'R' Rated movies make money. Fact.

To cater to some dreamt up PG13 demo is beyond retarded.
 
2012-09-19 02:38:29 PM
TL;DR summary: people would rather wait and rent the complete version of a movie rather than see a chopped version of it at the theater, and somehow the complete version that you want to rent is the problem.
 
2012-09-19 02:40:55 PM

vudukungfu


Me, The less the butcher is involved, the better.
Whack his dick and horns of and bring me the rest.


I didn't know butchers had horns.
 
2012-09-19 02:43:30 PM

serpent_sky: PG-13 horror (or action) movies are rarely worth it.


Some PG horror films rock
 
2012-09-19 02:47:54 PM
And if you want to see an 'unrated' movie do right, just watch Sex Drive. The theatrical version was ok (has Seth Green playing a foul-mouthed Amish), kinda funny at times, but very typical. The unrated version, on the other hand, is farkin hysterical.

The directors even have a blurb at the beginning saying "Please watch the theatrical version first. If you don't you will hate this version because it will make almost no sense." Random naked chicks walking the background, scenes that go well past the 'cut' stage, them breaking character and laughing. It all combines to make a very funny movie.
 
2012-09-19 02:53:48 PM
Blame it on the MPAA's insistence of farking with the ratings system.

Case in point: "South Park: Bigger, Longer and Uncut."
 
2012-09-19 02:54:06 PM

AliceBToklasLives: serpent_sky: PG-13 horror (or action) movies are rarely worth it.

Some PG horror films rock


That movie is pretty much responsible for the invention of the PG-13 rating.
 
2012-09-19 02:55:26 PM

scottydoesntknow: serpent_sky: Maybe never. PG-13 horror (or action) movies are rarely worth it

"Yippie Kayay Motherf-" *BOOOM*



"Yippie Kayay Mother, father!"
 
2012-09-19 02:57:30 PM

Leopold Stotch: AliceBToklasLives: serpent_sky: PG-13 horror (or action) movies are rarely worth it.

Some PG horror films rock

That movie is pretty much responsible for the invention of the PG-13 rating.


I think Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom is what caused it, but Poltergeist helped. 

/Thank you, Steven Spielberg
 
2012-09-19 03:04:23 PM

scottydoesntknow: And if you want to see an 'unrated' movie do right, just watch Sex Drive. The theatrical version was ok (has Seth Green playing a foul-mouthed Amish), kinda funny at times, but very typical. The unrated version, on the other hand, is farkin hysterical.

The directors even have a blurb at the beginning saying "Please watch the theatrical version first. If you don't you will hate this version because it will make almost no sense." Random naked chicks walking the background, scenes that go well past the 'cut' stage, them breaking character and laughing. It all combines to make a very funny movie.


you must not watch many movies.

because Sex Drive is a cinematic turd. The extended cut is just more shiat on the pile. They KNEW the movie sucked so they just put random tits in the "extended version". The ONLY watchable parts of the movie are the Seth Green parts and even HE admits that the movie is a turd.

Please don't lie to people about "Sex Drive", and if you truly aren't lying, then watch more movies so you have a frame of reference.
 
2012-09-19 03:05:06 PM

serpent_sky: People are just figuring this out? As a horror movie fan, no matter how good the trailer may look, if we see "PG-13" my friends and I groan, ignore it, and maybe watch the extended cut on Netflix. They think they'll get more young people in, and maybe they do. But they completely cut off anyone I know (my whole group spans late 20s-late 30s) from going because we don't want to see a movie chopped up so the kids can (a) get in and be annoying and (b) enjoy it. So we pass.

I've been saying this for years, though. If they released good, (and while we're at it -- original, not remakes and reboots) horror movies that were R-rated? I'd go. Otherwise, maybe Netflix. Maybe HBO. Maybe never. PG-13 horror (or action) movies are rarely worth it.


Sam Raimi's last 2 horror movies have been pg13, and they are scarier than all the rest of the garbage out there. You don't necessarily need blood and gore to make a great horror movie. Of course, most directors do not have a fraction of his talent.
 
2012-09-19 03:08:01 PM

machodonkeywrestler: serpent_sky: People are just figuring this out? As a horror movie fan, no matter how good the trailer may look, if we see "PG-13" my friends and I groan, ignore it, and maybe watch the extended cut on Netflix. They think they'll get more young people in, and maybe they do. But they completely cut off anyone I know (my whole group spans late 20s-late 30s) from going because we don't want to see a movie chopped up so the kids can (a) get in and be annoying and (b) enjoy it. So we pass.

I've been saying this for years, though. If they released good, (and while we're at it -- original, not remakes and reboots) horror movies that were R-rated? I'd go. Otherwise, maybe Netflix. Maybe HBO. Maybe never. PG-13 horror (or action) movies are rarely worth it.

Sam Raimi's last 2 horror movies have been pg13, and they are scarier than all the rest of the garbage out there. You don't necessarily need blood and gore to make a great horror movie. Of course, most directors do not have a fraction of his talent.


I love Drag Me To Hell, but don't try and tell people that it was "scary" in any way. It had a couple of BOO moments but the movie is mostly just there being an unofficial sequel to the Evil Dead movies.
 
2012-09-19 03:08:58 PM

frepnog: because Sex Drive is a cinematic turd.


I thought it was pretty damn funny.
 
2012-09-19 03:09:55 PM

Tyrone Slothrop: Leopold Stotch: AliceBToklasLives: serpent_sky: PG-13 horror (or action) movies are rarely worth it.

Some PG horror films rock

That movie is pretty much responsible for the invention of the PG-13 rating.

I think Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom is what caused it, but Poltergeist helped. 

/Thank you, Steven Spielberg


And Gremlins.

/Which was produced by Spielberg
//Guess he decided 1984 would traumatize kids
///Still hate that movie
 
2012-09-19 03:12:38 PM
CSB-

Had a friend in Indoensia (from Scotland) who heard good things about Old School. he was pumped when it came outon video and sprang extra for th e"unrated cut". Problem was "unrated" still had to meet indonesian deceny standards so he was buying a PG-13 version.

timujin: However, I also don't see the problem with releasing an "extended cut" or whatever they call it.


An extended cut is like saying, look there just wasn't enough time to tell the complete story I wanted.

I get that.


He was biatching about telling a "toned down" story to try and pack more people in the theatre and then selling the non-toned down story on DVD.
 
2012-09-19 03:13:00 PM

serpent_sky: People are just figuring this out? As a horror movie fan, no matter how good the trailer may look, if we see "PG-13" my friends and I groan, ignore it, and maybe watch the extended cut on Netflix. They think they'll get more young people in, and maybe they do. But they completely cut off anyone I know (my whole group spans late 20s-late 30s) from going because we don't want to see a movie chopped up so the kids can (a) get in and be annoying and (b) enjoy it. So we pass.

I've been saying this for years, though. If they released good, (and while we're at it -- original, not remakes and reboots) horror movies that were R-rated? I'd go. Otherwise, maybe Netflix. Maybe HBO. Maybe never. PG-13 horror (or action) movies are rarely worth it.


I'm with you on it but we're in the minority. Studios make WAY more money on PG-13 movies than anything else.
 
2012-09-19 03:14:18 PM

Leopold Stotch: AliceBToklasLives: serpent_sky: PG-13 horror (or action) movies are rarely worth it.

Some PG horror films rock

That movie is pretty much responsible for the invention of the PG-13 rating.


Forgot there was no PG-13 back then. Funny thing: any old episode of CSI or whatever is far more violent than Poltergeist, Temple of Doom, etc.
 
2012-09-19 03:16:05 PM

AliceBToklasLives: serpent_sky: PG-13 horror (or action) movies are rarely worth it.

Some PG horror films rock


Never happen today.


meanmutton: Studios make WAY more money on PG-13 movies than anything else


I refuse to see them in the theatre.
 
2012-09-19 03:17:25 PM

liam76: CSB-
Had a friend in Indoensia (from Scotland) who heard good things about Old School. he was pumped when it came outon video and sprang extra for th e"unrated cut". Problem was "unrated" still had to meet indonesian deceny standards so he was buying a PG-13 version.


Did he honestly expect any difference living in a country under Sharia law?
 
2012-09-19 03:21:03 PM

scottydoesntknow: And if you want to see an 'unrated' movie do right, just watch Sex Drive. The theatrical version was ok (has Seth Green playing a foul-mouthed Amish), kinda funny at times, but very typical. The unrated version, on the other hand, is farkin hysterical.

The directors even have a blurb at the beginning saying "Please watch the theatrical version first. If you don't you will hate this version because it will make almost no sense." Random naked chicks walking the background, scenes that go well past the 'cut' stage, them breaking character and laughing. It all combines to make a very funny movie.


That movie is farking hilarious. Kind of along the lines of eurotrip....there was a catchy song in that movie somewhere.

I'm pretty sure I've only seen the unrated version though. Dildo on donut?
 
2012-09-19 03:21:09 PM

Englebert Slaptyback: vudukungfu

Me, The less the butcher is involved, the better.
Whack his dick and horns of and bring me the rest.


I didn't know butchers had horns.


images2.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2012-09-19 03:21:28 PM

liam76: CSB-

Had a friend in Indoensia (from Scotland) who heard good things about Old School. he was pumped when it came outon video and sprang extra for th e"unrated cut". Problem was "unrated" still had to meet indonesian deceny standards so he was buying a PG-13 version.

timujin: However, I also don't see the problem with releasing an "extended cut" or whatever they call it.

An extended cut is like saying, look there just wasn't enough time to tell the complete story I wanted.

I get that.


He was biatching about telling a "toned down" story to try and pack more people in the theatre and then selling the non-toned down story on DVD.


It's not a "time" issue, an extended cut is usually like saying, "Look, the studio wouldn't let me tell the story I wanted." Whether that's because of length (Blade Runner, Gladiator) or content (so very, very many), it's the same message.
 
2012-09-19 03:23:06 PM

meanmutton: Did he honestly expect any difference living in a country under Sharia law?


Soon to be the good ole U.S. of A., too.
 
2012-09-19 03:24:15 PM

meanmutton: liam76: CSB-
Had a friend in Indoensia (from Scotland) who heard good things about Old School. he was pumped when it came outon video and sprang extra for th e"unrated cut". Problem was "unrated" still had to meet indonesian deceny standards so he was buying a PG-13 version.

Did he honestly expect any difference living in a country under Sharia law?


He had just moved there, and they are pretty moderate.
 
2012-09-19 03:24:20 PM
I also will immediately skip any horror movie with a PG-13 unless word-of-mouth says it's amazing. Not because I want to see gore in all of them, but because that rating sends the message: "We made this movie to appeal to the average dumbass 13 year old." They need to stop doing that shiat.
 
2012-09-19 03:24:33 PM

frepnog: machodonkeywrestler: serpent_sky: People are just figuring this out? As a horror movie fan, no matter how good the trailer may look, if we see "PG-13" my friends and I groan, ignore it, and maybe watch the extended cut on Netflix. They think they'll get more young people in, and maybe they do. But they completely cut off anyone I know (my whole group spans late 20s-late 30s) from going because we don't want to see a movie chopped up so the kids can (a) get in and be annoying and (b) enjoy it. So we pass.

I've been saying this for years, though. If they released good, (and while we're at it -- original, not remakes and reboots) horror movies that were R-rated? I'd go. Otherwise, maybe Netflix. Maybe HBO. Maybe never. PG-13 horror (or action) movies are rarely worth it.

Sam Raimi's last 2 horror movies have been pg13, and they are scarier than all the rest of the garbage out there. You don't necessarily need blood and gore to make a great horror movie. Of course, most directors do not have a fraction of his talent.

I love Drag Me To Hell, but don't try and tell people that it was "scary" in any way. It had a couple of BOO moments but the movie is mostly just there being an unofficial sequel to the Evil Dead movies.


Maybe scary isn't the best description, but come to think of it, I don't even know the last movie that I saw that was actually scary. Shiat was scary when I kid, but if I re-watch those same movies now, it's kinda corny.
 
2012-09-19 03:31:15 PM

liam76: CSB-

Had a friend in Indoensia (from Scotland) who heard good things about Old School. he was pumped when it came outon video and sprang extra for th e"unrated cut". Problem was "unrated" still had to meet indonesian deceny standards so he was buying a PG-13 version.

timujin: However, I also don't see the problem with releasing an "extended cut" or whatever they call it.

An extended cut is like saying, look there just wasn't enough time to tell the complete story I wanted.
here's some worthless scenes that add some sex or violence we cut out but otherwise these scenes slowed the pace down or were worthless but, by all means, pay another $15 for the same dvd you already own so you can see it 'uncut'.

I get that.

 

FTFY
 
2012-09-19 03:38:28 PM

frepnog: Please don't lie to people about "Sex Drive", and if you truly aren't lying, then watch more movies so you have a frame of reference.


Sex Drive is one of those movies that I hate to admit I laugh at, but damn if it's on, I'm watching it!
And yes, it's the first time in history someone has said "Seth Green was one of the best parts of that movie!"

But it was a funny movie!
 
2012-09-19 03:41:15 PM

museamused: liam76: CSB-

Had a friend in Indoensia (from Scotland) who heard good things about Old School. he was pumped when it came outon video and sprang extra for th e"unrated cut". Problem was "unrated" still had to meet indonesian deceny standards so he was buying a PG-13 version.

timujin: However, I also don't see the problem with releasing an "extended cut" or whatever they call it.

An extended cut is like saying, look there just wasn't enough time to tell the complete story I wanted.
here's some worthless scenes that add some sex or violence we cut out but otherwise these scenes slowed the pace down or were worthless but, by all means, pay another $15 for the same dvd you already own so you can see it 'uncut'.

I get that.

FTFY


While that might be true in some cases, that's not the usual reason. The scenes that are added back in are sometimes simply because they want to add in some "shock" value or whatever, but most of the time it is because the studio and director didn't agree on what audiences would want to see or what would be viable in theaters. Blade Runner is a great example.


timujin: An extended cut is like saying, look there just wasn't enough time to tell the complete story I wanted.


I just realized what you meant by that... ignore my earlier post.
 
2012-09-19 03:47:36 PM

buntz: frepnog: Please don't lie to people about "Sex Drive", and if you truly aren't lying, then watch more movies so you have a frame of reference.

Sex Drive is one of those movies that I hate to admit I laugh at, but damn if it's on, I'm watching it!
And yes, it's the first time in history someone has said "Seth Green was one of the best parts of that movie!"

But it was a funny movie!


So just for reference, are you one of those people that thinks American Pie is one of the top 10 comedies of all time?
 
2012-09-19 03:50:36 PM

browntimmy: buntz: frepnog: Please don't lie to people about "Sex Drive", and if you truly aren't lying, then watch more movies so you have a frame of reference.

Sex Drive is one of those movies that I hate to admit I laugh at, but damn if it's on, I'm watching it!
And yes, it's the first time in history someone has said "Seth Green was one of the best parts of that movie!"

But it was a funny movie!

So just for reference, are you one of those people that thinks American Pie is one of the top 10 comedies of all time?


Yeah, that is another of those movies that are not nearly as good as some people think.

actually, that movie pretty much sucks. It was much better back when it was called "Porky's". My wife tried to convince me that American Pie was awesome. I had never seen it because I just KNEW it was a pile, but I gave in and watched it with her. Yep, as I thought, it was farking terrible.

Then I made her watch Porky's with me. Now she understands.
 
2012-09-19 03:51:31 PM

browntimmy: So just for reference, are you one of those people that thinks American Pie is one of the top 10 comedies of all time?


Thank God! THAT GUY is here!
 
2012-09-19 03:53:35 PM

machodonkeywrestler: Sam Raimi's last 2 horror movies have been pg13, and they are scarier than all the rest of the garbage out there. You don't necessarily need blood and gore to make a great horror movie. Of course, most directors do not have a fraction of his talent.


I don't like going to theaters to see movies but the sound effects in Drag Me To Hell were really really worth it. That was f*cking freaky
 
2012-09-19 03:59:22 PM

browntimmy: So just for reference, are you one of those people that thinks American Pie is one of the top 10 comedies of all time?


No, but I did enjoy it. I also liked American Reunion.

Like I said in another movie snob thread, sometimes you just want a Big Mac!
 
2012-09-19 04:00:38 PM

timujin: With few exceptions, I don't see movies in the theater anyway, so it makes little difference to me. However, I also don't see the problem with releasing an "extended cut" or whatever they call it. You have to deal with the market realities and while there are a lot of people like the author who would like to see the full version in the theater, more people buy tickets to movies rated lower than R... that's it, that's all it is, production companies don't make enough money off of rated R movies, generally, to justify their costs.



Wrong. And this is what the studios think, so they're wrong too.

People buy more tickets to see rated PG-13 Avengers because it's farking Avengers, not because it's "PG-13".

Being "R" has little to do with people wanting to go see a movie.

What happened with Terminator 2 and True Lies? Both were R yet people went to see them en-masse! Earning 519 and 378 million dollars of 1991 and 1994 money.

Lethal Weapon 2 and 3 also made big bucks around 227 millions of 1989 dollars.

People go to see a movie because they're thrilled about it, because the thing looks farking badass and because it's marketed right.

"Make it PG-13" is a marketing faux-pas and the sign of someone who probably has a 2 digit IQ. Movies have audiences, you can't alienate the audience for a movie and then complain no one went to see it.

This lazy marketing bullshiat is what's been decreasing hollywood's intake instead of the piracy boogeyman.
 
2012-09-19 04:09:56 PM
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2012-09-19 04:16:47 PM

rocky_howard: timujin: With few exceptions, I don't see movies in the theater anyway, so it makes little difference to me. However, I also don't see the problem with releasing an "extended cut" or whatever they call it. You have to deal with the market realities and while there are a lot of people like the author who would like to see the full version in the theater, more people buy tickets to movies rated lower than R... that's it, that's all it is, production companies don't make enough money off of rated R movies, generally, to justify their costs.


Wrong. And this is what the studios think, so they're wrong too.

People buy more tickets to see rated PG-13 Avengers because it's farking Avengers, not because it's "PG-13".

Being "R" has little to do with people wanting to go see a movie.

What happened with Terminator 2 and True Lies? Both were R yet people went to see them en-masse! Earning 519 and 378 million dollars of 1991 and 1994 money.

Lethal Weapon 2 and 3 also made big bucks around 227 millions of 1989 dollars.

People go to see a movie because they're thrilled about it, because the thing looks farking badass and because it's marketed right.

"Make it PG-13" is a marketing faux-pas and the sign of someone who probably has a 2 digit IQ. Movies have audiences, you can't alienate the audience for a movie and then complain no one went to see it.

This lazy marketing bullshiat is what's been decreasing hollywood's intake instead of the piracy boogeyman.


You're dealing with a much different parental mindset in 20012 than you were in the 80's or 90's. Parents these days don't take their little snowflakes to see rated R movies. The biggest franchises these days, the movies that makes the most money, are rated G through PG-13, there isn't a single rated R movie in the top 50. Sure, R movies can make money, but they don't make MONEY.
 
2012-09-19 04:21:50 PM

frepnog: I love Drag Me To Hell, but don't try and tell people that it was "scary" in any way. It had a couple of BOO moments but the movie is mostly just there being an unofficial sequel to the Evil Dead movies.


I didn't find it scary, nor did I like it.

It was really just "oh, it's Raimi doing the Raimi thing. I guess it's good, but I enjoyed it a lot more in the early 90s, when I was in high school." His stuff doesn't do it for me now.

That possession movie looked bloody awful, but in fairness, I hate all just about all possession movies. Especially when they are "based on a true story." And PG-13.
 
2012-09-19 04:31:17 PM

timujin: You're dealing with a much different parental mindset in 20012 than you were in the 80's or 90's. Parents these days don't take their little snowflakes to see rated R movies. The biggest franchises these days, the movies that makes the most money, are rated G through PG-13, there isn't a single rated R movie in the top 50. Sure, R movies can make money, but they don't make MONEY.


Dunno, the Resident Evil movies are R rated and make quite a bang. Last one made 296 millions. and this one is only one weekend in and it's already at 72 millions.

Also, you keep looking at it the wrong way.

Yes, the biggest money makers are PG-13 movies, that doesn't mean YOUR movie is going to be successful because it's PG-13. Correlation doesn't imply causation. Again, being PG-13 had little to do with their success. OF COURSE movies about Batman, Avengers, Transformers, Harry Potter and etc are going to make boatloads of money. They're big franchises. Do you think "Ninja Assassin" would have made more money if they had toned down the violence and turned it PG-13? Nope.
 
2012-09-19 04:31:23 PM

timujin: You're dealing with a much different parental mindset in 20012 than you were in the 80's or 90's. Parents these days don't take their little snowflakes to see rated R movies. The biggest franchises these days, the movies that makes the most money, are rated G through PG-13, there isn't a single rated R movie in the top 50. Sure, R movies can make money, but they don't make MONEY.



Yep, looking at the top 100 movie grossings of all time, the highest R-rated I could find was The Hangover II.  Comes in at 66.  Grossed $254,455,986.
 
2012-09-19 04:32:08 PM

timujin: Parents these days don't take their little snowflakes to see rated R movies. The biggest franchises these days, the movies that makes the most money, are rated G through PG-13, there isn't a single rated R movie in the top 50. Sure, R movies can make money, but they don't make MONEY.


That's an important point, and it really makes this into a chicken vs. egg argument.

Are people not going to PG-13 movies because they expect the full cut to be out in 6 months, or are studios not making enough good R-rated films because they're afraid of losing crossover appeal, thus lowering the aggregate box office for grown-up movies? My two cents: Taken was a steaming pile of dogshiat and every man in America wants to see the sequel even less if it's PG-13 and thereby guarantees they see zero blood or titties.

Onion-belted/Libertarian rant of the day: I blame the ratings system. Airplane was rated PG, and it had violence, terrorism, suicide, wonderful breasts, fake blowjobs, fear, drug humor, alcohol abuse...and it was one of the highlights of my youth. Now you say the F-word, and show one drop of blood, or god forbid a female nipple, and theaters are afraid to let a human who's allowed to drive a car and risk of all our lives in to see it. All of us got more real sex in our teens than we were technically allowed to watch by ourselves on movie screens -- seriously, I could take a girl to a movie, not be allowed to see a boob, then go get a hummer in my '83 Mustang. What is that? I remember having graduated high school already and being turned town to take my high-school-senior sister in to see the South Park movie. It's nonsense.
 
2012-09-19 04:36:27 PM
Heck, show me a single movie series that went from R to PG-13 that made considerably more money

Adjusted for ticket inflation, Die Hard 4 is the least successful movie in terms of gross money:

Rank Title (click to view) Studio Adjusted Gross Unadjusted Gross Release
1 Die Hard 2: Die Harder Fox------$222,855,400 $117,540,947 7/6/90
2 Die Hard: With A Vengeance Fox -$184,390,900 $100,012,499 5/19/95
3 Die Hard Fox -------------------$161,978,300 $83,008,852 7/15/88
4 Live Free or Die Hard Fox ------$156,820,600 $134,529,403 6/27/07
 
2012-09-19 04:39:37 PM

taxandspend: downstairs: timujin: You're dealing with a much different parental mindset in 20012 than you were in the 80's or 90's. Parents these days don't take their little snowflakes to see rated R movies. The biggest franchises these days, the movies that makes the most money, are rated G through PG-13, there isn't a single rated R movie in the top 50. Sure, R movies can make money, but they don't make MONEY.


Yep, looking at the top 100 movie grossings of all time, the highest R-rated I could find was The Hangover II.  Comes in at 66.  Grossed $254,455,986.

Passion of the Christ. $370 million in the US at #19


downstairs: Yep, looking at the top 100 movie grossings of all time, the highest R-rated I could find was The Hangover II.  Comes in at 66.  Grossed $254,455,986.


Also, the Hangover II made 327 million overseas for a total of 581 which is exactly...uh...as much as Iron-Man.
 
2012-09-19 04:42:41 PM

timujin: there isn't a single rated R movie in the top 50


Nitpicking, but "The Matrix Reloaded" was rated R.
 
2012-09-19 04:50:54 PM

taxandspend: downstairs: timujin: You're dealing with a much different parental mindset in 20012 than you were in the 80's or 90's. Parents these days don't take their little snowflakes to see rated R movies. The biggest franchises these days, the movies that makes the most money, are rated G through PG-13, there isn't a single rated R movie in the top 50. Sure, R movies can make money, but they don't make MONEY.


Yep, looking at the top 100 movie grossings of all time, the highest R-rated I could find was The Hangover II.  Comes in at 66.  Grossed $254,455,986.

Matrix Reloaded. $281 million in the US at #52.The original The Hangover. $277 million in the US at #55.



All good, thanks.  I was looking at the IMDB list quickly, which does not list the rating in the list... you gotta click each movie.  So I kinda guessed.
 
Now... I didn't realize Passon of the Christ was R, and would not have even checked that.
 
2012-09-19 04:54:15 PM

downstairs:
Now... I didn't realize Passon of the Christ was R, and would not have even checked that.


Dude, that movie made Troma movies look tame. (And as if they had crack team of special effects people, to boot).
 
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