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(NYPost)   NYC steakhouse begins serving Kobe beef. Chicago tourists immediately declare that Jordan beef is better   (nypost.com) divider line 87
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2012-09-19 11:11:39 AM
I thought Japan also doesn't allow export of true Kobe beef? How the hell would they be able to bring it here?
 
2012-09-19 11:19:08 AM

RexTalionis: I thought Japan also doesn't allow export of true Kobe beef? How the hell would they be able to bring it here?


FTA: "The new steak dish at Old Homestead is so expensive because it is a rare cut of real Japanese Kobe beef, which had been banned for sale in the US until recently."
 
2012-09-19 11:40:58 AM

FirstNationalBastard: I thought Kobe beef was only served in Colorado hotel rooms.

one internet for you, sir
 
2012-09-19 11:48:05 AM

FirstNationalBastard: I thought Kobe beef was only served in Colorado hotel rooms.


i27.tinypic.com
 
2012-09-19 11:56:23 AM
In before the "YOU CAN'T BUY KOBE BEEF IN AMERICA" fools.
 
2012-09-19 12:00:14 PM
I wonder if Kobe beef really is that good? With all the hype surrounding it, if I were to ever have the pleasure of masticating on a piece of Kobe beef, I would expect it to taste like chewing on corporeal bliss.
 
2012-09-19 01:34:41 PM

Cythraul: I wonder if Kobe beef really is that good? With all the hype surrounding it, if I were to ever have the pleasure of masticating on a piece of Kobe beef, I would expect it to taste like chewing on corporeal bliss.


I sincerely doubt, unless you're one of those apparently plentiful people who think spending money is the same as getting quality.
 
2012-09-19 01:35:18 PM
it.
 
2012-09-19 01:42:03 PM

Cythraul: I wonder if Kobe beef really is that good? With all the hype surrounding it, if I were to ever have the pleasure of masticating on a piece of Kobe beef, I would expect it to taste like chewing on corporeal bliss.


I had one last night, cooked to perfection (medium well). I enjoyed my baked potato better to be honest, except I had to use so much ketchup on the steak that it ran off and ruined the tater skin. Ah well, YOLO.
 
2012-09-19 01:45:37 PM
It looks amazing, but not $350 amazing.
 
2012-09-19 01:47:01 PM

vudukungfu: In before the "YOU CAN'T BUY KOBE BEEF IN AMERICA" fools.


I thought this was a good read back in April of this year. Where is he wrong?

http://www.forbes.com/sites/larryolmsted/2012/04/12/foods-biggest-sca m -the-great-kobe-beef-lie/
 
2012-09-19 01:47:32 PM

thismomentinblackhistory: Cythraul: I wonder if Kobe beef really is that good? With all the hype surrounding it, if I were to ever have the pleasure of masticating on a piece of Kobe beef, I would expect it to taste like chewing on corporeal bliss.

I had one last night, cooked to perfection (medium well). I enjoyed my baked potato better to be honest, except I had to use so much ketchup on the steak that it ran off and ruined the tater skin. Ah well, YOLO.


You, sir, are a complete moran.

If it ain't chicken fried, it ain't kobe!
 
2012-09-19 01:50:06 PM

thismomentinblackhistory: I had one last night, cooked to perfection (medium well). I enjoyed my baked potato better to be honest, except I had to use so much ketchup on the steak that it ran off and ruined the tater skin. Ah well, YOLO.


I had a stroke just thinking that this might be real for a second.
 
2012-09-19 01:50:09 PM
The best beef in the world comes from retired oxen in northern Spain. Link
 
2012-09-19 01:52:20 PM
"It's the most delicate, decadent beef in the world," said restaurant co-owner Marc Sherry. "It's like having July 4th in your mouth - there is an explosion of flavors."


Oh please...you could just sell rich people domestic Wagyu beef and they wouldn't know the difference. Also, "explosion of flavors"? It just tastes like beef, dude...
 
2012-09-19 01:53:45 PM
at that price i'd stick to eating pink slime tyvm
 
2012-09-19 01:53:49 PM

bdub77: RexTalionis: I thought Japan also doesn't allow export of true Kobe beef? How the hell would they be able to bring it here?

FTA: "The new steak dish at Old Homestead is so expensive because it is a rare cut of real Japanese Kobe beef, which had been banned for sale in the US until recently."


That's interesting, however how'd it get here? You know, as the guys that make it haven't sent any:

http://www.kobe-niku.jp/contents/export/
 
2012-09-19 02:02:59 PM
My guess is the "reporter" made a quick google search on Japanese beef imports (Which were banned from some places around Fukushima because of radiation scares and in April all other places because of hoof and mouth. A few weeks ago we started to import Japanese beef again as both of these issues are subsided.

Saw that Japanese beef was now legal, let the restaurant guy say that he had Kobe beef, and left it at that.

It's American or maybe Australian Kobe style Waygu.
 
2012-09-19 02:05:00 PM

thismomentinblackhistory: Cythraul: I wonder if Kobe beef really is that good? With all the hype surrounding it, if I were to ever have the pleasure of masticating on a piece of Kobe beef, I would expect it to taste like chewing on corporeal bliss.

I had one last night, cooked to perfection (medium well). I enjoyed my baked potato better to be honest, except I had to use so much ketchup on the steak that it ran off and ruined the tater skin. Ah well, YOLO.


I LOL'd.
 
2012-09-19 02:05:31 PM

Cythraul: I wonder if Kobe beef really is that good? With all the hype surrounding it, if I were to ever have the pleasure of masticating on a piece of Kobe beef, I would expect it to taste like chewing on corporeal bliss.


Hey, whatever gets you off.
 
2012-09-19 02:14:13 PM

DoBeDoBeDo:
It's American or maybe Australian Kobe style Waygu.


We have a Waygu ranch here in Vermont.
 
2012-09-19 02:15:41 PM
I'll wait until they import some good beef from China.
And it will be cheaper too.
 
2012-09-19 02:16:21 PM
How to troll food snobs, Lesson 1: Take some Kobe beef, record yourself grinding it up, then cook (well done) into burgers. Top with generic grocery store BBQ sauce and some bacon. Upload to YouTube. Enjoy outrage.
 
2012-09-19 02:18:49 PM
As I have had Kobe beef in Kobe, I can say it was delicious. Would I buy again/worth the ¥? eeh...

/csb
//randomly picking items in restaurants was better high.
 
2012-09-19 02:19:12 PM

Cythraul: How to troll food snobs, Lesson 1: Take some Kobe beef, record yourself grinding it up, then cook (well done) into burgers. Top with generic grocery store BBQ sauce and some bacon. Upload to YouTube. Enjoy outrage.


Chase it with a nice 21 year old single malt mixed with Mountain Dew.
 
2012-09-19 02:27:23 PM
Pretty hotel concierges hate Kobe beef.
 
2012-09-19 02:31:04 PM
But Frazier, we simply must be first !
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2012-09-19 02:31:57 PM
Meh I am fine with American beef no need to over pay for a steak.

Cythraul: How to troll food snobs, Lesson 1: Take some Kobe beef, record yourself grinding it up, then cook (well done) into burgers. Top with generic grocery store BBQ sauce and some bacon. Upload to YouTube. Enjoy outrage.


Maximum trollage. Well played.
 
2012-09-19 02:37:50 PM
Kobe is just a region, Wagyū cattle, is the correct name.
 
2012-09-19 02:41:36 PM

cig-mkr: I'll wait until they import some good beef from China.
And it will be cheaper too.


So basically what you're saying is, the Chinese can do for beef what they did for rubber dogshiat out of Hong Kong?

/talk to me goose.
 
2012-09-19 02:50:08 PM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: cig-mkr: I'll wait until they import some good beef from China.
And it will be cheaper too.

So basically what you're saying is, the Chinese can do for beef what they did for rubber dogshiat out of Hong Kong?

/talk to me goose.


Why sure they can, look how real the rubber dogshait looks.
And while it may contain a little lead and some other toxins, you won't really be able to taste it.
Bonus, It will be sold at your local WalMart.
 
2012-09-19 02:51:35 PM
"You can't get Kobe..."

Kobe is a town in Japan. Waygu is a type of cattle famously raised in Kobe but now raised elsewhere.
 
2012-09-19 02:52:06 PM

Cythraul: I wonder if Kobe beef really is that good? With all the hype surrounding it, if I were to ever have the pleasure of masticating on a piece of Kobe beef, I would expect it to taste like chewing on corporeal bliss.


It isn't. Had some in Japan and it tasted like any other good cut of meat.
 
2012-09-19 02:59:56 PM

BarkingUnicorn: The best beef in the world comes from retired oxen in northern Spain. Link


...retired from what?
 
2012-09-19 03:07:38 PM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: Kobe is just a region, Wagyū cattle, is the correct name.


Champagne is just a region, sparkling white wine is the correct name.
 
2012-09-19 03:13:30 PM

Cythraul: I wonder if Kobe beef really is that good? With all the hype surrounding it, if I were to ever have the pleasure of masticating on a piece of Kobe beef, I would expect it to taste like chewing on corporeal bliss.


I would expect your steak to be very sticky, and to smell like cleaning solvent.
 
2012-09-19 03:15:44 PM
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Jeff Coatsworth: Do you know what Kobe beef is?
Marshall Eriksen: The most expensive beef in the world.
Jeff Coatsworth: The place I'm taking you has Kobe lobster. That's lobster that is fed on Kobe beef.
 
2012-09-19 03:16:58 PM

Cythraul: How to troll food snobs, Lesson 1: Take some Kobe beef, record yourself grinding it up, then cook (well done) into burgers. Top with generic grocery store BBQ sauce and some bacon. Upload to YouTube. Enjoy outrage.


I think turning it into Hamburger Helper would be much more up-scale.
 
2012-09-19 03:30:04 PM

moos: "You can't get Kobe..."

Kobe is a town in Japan. Waygu is a type of cattle famously raised in Kobe but now raised elsewhere.


Incorrect, try again.
 
2012-09-19 03:31:06 PM

FirstNationalBastard: I thought Kobe beef was only served in Colorado hotel rooms.


www.jonhusby.com

/I lol'd
 
2012-09-19 03:38:18 PM

bemis23: moos: "You can't get Kobe..."

Kobe is a town in Japan. Waygu is a type of cattle famously raised in Kobe but now raised elsewhere.

Incorrect, try again.


Partially incorrect I should say, Kobe is a city/port (not really a town).

Wholly incorrect on the Wagyu part: Wagyu is not a breed, it is a class/family of breeds. True Kobe beef only comes from a single breed, and that breed must be raised in the Hyogo prefecture and raised according to very specific rules. Wagyu in the US is unregulated so ranchers can sell "Wagyu" beef with very little actual Wagyu heritage, and it's likely not the correct Kobe breed (Tajima-something or other).
 
2012-09-19 03:42:57 PM
You can only truly get the proper flavor, the way God intended it, when you cook the cow while it is still alive. The best experience is when they cook the live cow right at your table, to minimize the distance from hoof to fork
 
2012-09-19 03:49:24 PM

Lost Thought 00: You can only truly get the proper flavor, the way God intended it, when you cook the cow while it is still alive. The best experience is when they cook the live cow right at your table, to minimize the distance from hoof to fork


I just pop in a hunk of raw meat between my teeth then use a browning torch on it. Fork... pffft. Amateurs!
 
2012-09-19 03:50:46 PM
Huh, I had heard that the name "Kobe" was used frequently in this country by food vendors just because it wasn't trademarked. If real Kobe beef is now available for sale, I wonder if that may change.
 
2012-09-19 03:56:16 PM

cyberspacedout: Huh, I had heard that the name "Kobe" was used frequently in this country by food vendors just because it wasn't trademarked. If real Kobe beef is now available for sale, I wonder if that may change.


"Kobe" beef is trademarked. The Kobe Beef Marketing & Distribution Promotion Association just doesn't protect their trademark as aggressively as the Champagne people do.
 
2012-09-19 03:57:09 PM

bemis23: bemis23: moos: "You can't get Kobe..."

Kobe is a town in Japan. Waygu is a type of cattle famously raised in Kobe but now raised elsewhere.

Incorrect, try again.

Partially incorrect I should say, Kobe is a city/port (not really a town).

Wholly incorrect on the Wagyu part: Wagyu is not a breed, it is a class/family of breeds. True Kobe beef only comes from a single breed, and that breed must be raised in the Hyogo prefecture and raised according to very specific rules. Wagyu in the US is unregulated so ranchers can sell "Wagyu" beef with very little actual Wagyu heritage, and it's likely not the correct Kobe breed (Tajima-something or other).


Not going to split hairs on town/city/port. Are you really arguing population size designations on an internet forum?

Did a little more research to firm my position. "Wagyu," in the US has been crossbred with Black Angus mostly for climate acclimation/survivability reasons, so it's not the same thing as Tajima-gyu though it's descendant (or at least supposed to be.) So I was partially incorrect.

You can't get Poulet de Bresse in the US either. I'd probably be more excited about that than Tajima-gyu.
 
2012-09-19 03:59:51 PM

Cythraul: I wonder if Kobe beef really is that good? With all the hype surrounding it, if I were to ever have the pleasure of masticating on a piece of Kobe beef, I would expect it to taste like chewing on corporeal bliss.


Is a $500 bottle of limited edition French wine really that much better than a $20 Napa Valley wine, or a $2 bottle of Charles Shaw? Some people say yes, some say no.
 
2012-09-19 04:00:53 PM

DoBeDoBeDo: My guess is the "reporter" made a quick google search on Japanese beef imports (Which were banned from some places around Fukushima because of radiation scares and in April all other places because of hoof and mouth. A few weeks ago we started to import Japanese beef again as both of these issues are subsided.

Saw that Japanese beef was now legal, let the restaurant guy say that he had Kobe beef, and left it at that.

It's American or maybe Australian Kobe style Waygu.


I was under the impression that all Japan beef imports had stopped in April 2010 because of hoof and mouth. This would predate Fukushima by almost a year.
 
2012-09-19 04:05:07 PM

Moopy Mac: cyberspacedout: Huh, I had heard that the name "Kobe" was used frequently in this country by food vendors just because it wasn't trademarked. If real Kobe beef is now available for sale, I wonder if that may change.

"Kobe" beef is trademarked. The Kobe Beef Marketing & Distribution Promotion Association just doesn't protect their trademark as aggressively as the Champagne people do.


Huh, did not know that. Maybe now they can start kicking some ass, since they'll need their trademark to sell the real thing.
 
2012-09-19 04:12:14 PM

cyberspacedout: Moopy Mac: cyberspacedout: Huh, I had heard that the name "Kobe" was used frequently in this country by food vendors just because it wasn't trademarked. If real Kobe beef is now available for sale, I wonder if that may change.

"Kobe" beef is trademarked. The Kobe Beef Marketing & Distribution Promotion Association just doesn't protect their trademark as aggressively as the Champagne people do.

Huh, did not know that. Maybe now they can start kicking some ass, since they'll need their trademark to sell the real thing.


Are you trying to tell me that Jack-in-the-Box's Kobe Burger isn't made out of real Kobe Beef?
 
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