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2012-09-19 10:18:07 AM  
No doubt Yosemite is awesome. But if you're looking for stars and wide open spaces without as much crowd and easier permits, you can go a little South (on the East side). There's the White Mountains and Death Valley but if you want awesome, plush back country go down to Inyo. Here's a pic from June of last year:

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I didn't see another person for four days and this was on one of the popular trails. John Muir trail is on top of that ridge and Kings Canyon is on the other side - I didn't top the ridge because of rockfall and the snow was a pain in the ass by noon at that time of year. 

The drive in from Nevada from upper Death Valley (through the Bristlecone forest) is incredible. Much more awesome than driving from Fresno or Sacremento.
 
2012-09-19 11:14:01 AM  
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2012-09-19 11:43:23 AM  
Yosemite felt like a tourist trap to me, and a poorly run one at that. I'm sure if you get really into the brush it's nice, but overall didn't like it as much as I thought.

Death Valley, Glacier and Yellowstone were much nicer. Easier to camp and hike, cheaper, and the rangers were much friendlier.
 
2012-09-19 12:11:58 PM  

TyrantII: Yosemite felt like a tourist trap to me, and a poorly run one at that. I'm sure if you get really into the brush it's nice, but overall didn't like it as much as I thought.

Death Valley, Glacier and Yellowstone were much nicer. Easier to camp and hike, cheaper, and the rangers were much friendlier.



The only thing about California as a whole, with respect to the back country, is the permit system. I'm not saying they shouldn't have it but there are so many people if you want to definitely secure your hike you have to do it many months in advance and it doesn't forgive last minute change of plans or anything like that. I always have a backup plan every where I go but it does stink to have to deviate if you have your heart set on something.

They rangers in Yellowstone (and Teton for that matter) are very friendly. I suspect the problem with Yosemite is dealing with so much of the public that comes from major population centers that are an easy drive away. I've read as much.

But yeah, Yellowstone is great. If you're not lugging a camper, getting a camp site should be pretty easy. Mid to late August is a great time to go as it's still warm outside and the crowds are way reduced. And speaking of that, here's a shot of Grand Prismatic Spring in the mid day in mid August of last year:

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2012-09-19 12:16:26 PM  
There's also a tour bus driver named Sam, who'll tell you all about the amount of Japanese mountain climbers that have died on El Capitan (and how they can't drive), but will also include his neighbor shooting a bear, and a redheaded summer intern back in the day that he wanted to get with.

/interesting trip
 
2012-09-19 12:17:06 PM  
I love the dark so much. I feel so fortunate to have grown up so rurally and to have had my nights be so dark that it was sometimes brighter with your eyes closed if conditions were right.

I don't get that anymore. I now live far from where I grew up. I'm glad I can send my kids to see my parents in the summer and let them spend time under the stars.
 
2012-09-19 02:38:25 PM  
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2012-09-19 03:49:56 PM  
I would point out that there are plenty of beautiful places inside of Yosemite National Park that are not crowded like Yosemite Valley itself, but....no.

Carry on. All of Yosemite is super crowded and you might as well not even bother going. Please stay away.

That will be all.
 
2012-09-19 05:03:46 PM  

Seminorm Null: I would point out that there are plenty of beautiful places inside of Yosemite National Park that are not crowded like Yosemite Valley itself, but....no.

Carry on. All of Yosemite is super crowded and you might as well not even bother going. Please stay away.

That will be all.


Kings National Forrest and Mariposa Grove were great areas. I was just a little put off that there was (seemingly?) no way to get in touch with Rangers to ask questions, and the ones in the valley seemed to only give out maps and collect dollars. When I called the park services line for the CA system, it send me to first an automated message system, and then some cubical jockey in Washington DC that only took site reservations.

Yellowstone by contrast got us to a on duty ranger, we talked to him and we were all set. You pay to camp and check in your travel hiking plans on site, or in the morning. Death Valley was pretty much the same, although the rangers had strict hours (but also had to deal with a call tree). Yosemite/CA national park system by contrast told us camping sites were open on their website, also on their call tree, then we got up there at night (part of a xcountry road trip) to find everything locked and no rangers. 4 hours of switchback's in dense fog down into Bakersfield wasn't too fun.

Lesson learned for next time, but it interesting how different an experience it was. I'm sure there's plenty to enjoy outside of the valley, and maybe because of the proximity to population centers is the reason they make you jump through hoops to explore it. Just seemed like the whole thing was set up to funnel people into the valley and out, and if you wanted to do anything else you were on your own, with little guidance available.
 
2012-09-19 05:11:33 PM  

UberDave:

They rangers in Yellowstone (and Teton for that matter) are very friendly. I suspect the problem with Yosemite is dealing with so much of the public that comes from major population centers that are an easy drive away. I've read as much.

But yeah, Yellowstone is great. If you're not lugging a camper, getting a camp site should be pretty easy. Mid to late August is a great time to go as it's still warm outside and the crowds are way reduced. And speaking of that, here's a shot of Grand Prismatic Spring in the mid day in mid August of last year:

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We got in late and set up camp, got to grilling some food we picked up at a butchers in Dubois and enjoying the early fall night. The RV next to our camp site was a bunch of Germans on vacation. They asked us if were were worried about the bears, lol. Did some hiking and sightseeing over the next few days, woke up before dawn, showered in Old Faithful In and started up the next leg of the trip.

Snagged this photo on the way into Jackson Hole: http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6178/6168144608_6dafd532af_b.jpg

/Need to travel that way again
 
2012-09-19 05:39:27 PM  

TyrantII: Yosemite felt like a tourist trap to me, and a poorly run one at that.


I mostly blame the Delaware North Corporation, but at a meta level, the gridlock that's kept us from deciding what we really want Yosemite to be like for the last couple of decades.

The place is an embarrassment at best. Well not the place, but the built environment.... Curry Village would look shabby even in the Poconos. I have long advocated burning Curry Village to the ground, now with this hantavirus scare, I'm actually starting to hope I'll get my wish.
 
2012-09-19 10:22:38 PM  

TyrantII:
We got in late and set up camp, got to grilling some food we picked up at a butchers in Dubois and enjoying the early fall night. The RV next to our camp site was a bunch of Germans on vacation. They asked us if were were worried about the bears, lol. Did some hiking and sightseeing over the next few days, woke up before dawn, showered in Old Faithful In and started up the next leg of the trip.

Snagged this photo on the way into Jackson Hole: http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6178/6168144608_6dafd532af_b.jpg



Excellent shot. Much better than my Canon Blurry 1000 (I carry it because it packs well). I made and attempt on Grand Teton last year but ran off by a storm just as I was hitting the upper saddle.

The first time I camped in Yellowstone was with my parents in 1984 just after they discovered that woman who was drug from her tent in the middle of the night and killed by a bear. A ranger was going to every camp site and making sure everyone had odor items locked away.
 
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