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(CNN)   In a couple of years you can be driving DUI or even having an open container and there will be nothing the cops can do about it   (cnn.com) divider line 106
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2012-09-19 09:37:02 AM  
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Apparently there are a lot of cars peeing in the pool.
 
2012-09-19 09:53:42 AM  
75 percent of vehicles on the road by the year 2040....

IEEE envisions an absence of traffic signs and lights since highly evolved, self-driving cars won't need them


seems like the other 25% would though, even if that number was 2.5% you'd still need signs and lights...
 
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2012-09-19 09:59:52 AM  
Well, that's probably good considering that we will have wearable displays so people can watch YouTube while driving before then.
 
2012-09-19 10:00:24 AM  
I'm sure those assholes will think up some new ways to pull over brown people.
 
2012-09-19 10:11:08 AM  
And we will all have flying cars too. Yeah, we've heard this before.
 
2012-09-19 10:17:29 AM  

basemetal: And we will all have flying cars too. Yeah, we've heard this before.


the year they travel to in Back to the Future II is 2015. We still have a couple of years to develop flying cars and skateboards and be on track.
 
2012-09-19 10:18:56 AM  
Yeah, yah.
Let me know how your magic car works after a moose steps in front of it.

Stuff happens.

Tries go flat.
Engines seize.

Don't even get me started on the MIL in the back seat.
 
2012-09-19 10:26:40 AM  
So...we'll all be foreign ambassadors?
 
2012-09-19 10:36:32 AM  
Meh.  As with anything automated, there will always need to be a manual override, and you'll still need to be certified competent to operate such.  Therefore, I'm sure DUI laws will still be on the books.
 
2012-09-19 11:13:27 AM  
Volvo is testing the concept of using "road trains" in Europe to allow for more efficient driving. "A train of vehicles moving very close to each other would reach a higher throughput -- the number of cars per road unit -- and have lower fuel consumption due to aerodynamic drift," says Broggi.



Sounds like fun. Until someone drives over a nail in the middle of the road.
 
2012-09-19 12:02:53 PM  
If the car is driving itself, then the DUI guys aren't really doing the "D" part.
 
2012-09-19 12:50:55 PM  

basemetal: And we will all have flying cars too. Yeah, we've heard this before.


The problem with "flying cars" isn't the technology, it's people flying cars.

This sort of automated system would be something that would make flying cars feasible.
 
2012-09-19 01:00:48 PM  

wxboy: If the car is driving itself, then the DUI guys aren't really doing the "D" part.


Unless the car is impaired with some sort of virus or Microsoft OS.
 
2012-09-19 01:08:59 PM  
Can you be driving driving under the influence while at the automatic teller machine machine?
 
2012-09-19 01:12:07 PM  
So who is responsible if one of these automated cars gets into an accident? The owner or the manufacturer?
 
2012-09-19 01:18:07 PM  
Cops will find a way to ticket you. Gotta pay for that military hardware somehow.
 
2012-09-19 01:20:11 PM  

vudukungfu: Yeah, yah.
Let me know how your magic car works after a moose steps in front of it.

Stuff happens.

Tries go flat.
Engines seize.

Don't even get me started on the MIL in the back seat.


OK Ill bite: Anything you could do in those situations the car can handle better. About the only failure that really matters is failure of the self nav software and sensors.

What REALLY concerns me is how will they keep all that sweet sweet taxpunishmentsafety (yeah safety, that's it) flowing from speed cameras, red light cameras and other assorted "safety" measures.
 
2012-09-19 01:20:22 PM  
2040? I'll be close to 80 by then. If my car drives itself, how am I gonna plow into a farmer's market?
 
2012-09-19 01:24:04 PM  

vudukungfu: Let me know how your magic car works after a moose steps in front of it.


Probably the same thing that happens now. You crash into it. At a slightly lower speed since the car could sense the moose coming before it was actually visible to you and react quicker to slow the car.

Any more dumb questions based on pointless hand-wringing?
 
2012-09-19 01:24:45 PM  

gopher321: Volvo is testing the concept of using "road trains" in Europe to allow for more efficient driving. "A train of vehicles moving very close to each other would reach a higher throughput -- the number of cars per road unit -- and have lower fuel consumption due to aerodynamic drift," says Broggi.



Sounds like fun. Until someone drives over a nail in the middle of the road.


Run flat tires are getting really good, some manufacturer was also working on one that would essentially spray the entire inside with fix-a-flat and pump air from a tube in the wheel connected to a compressor in the trunk, seemed like they were saying in a few years the "extra" price would be negligible for all cars to have similar tech.
 
2012-09-19 01:24:52 PM  

basemetal: And we will all have flying cars too. Yeah, we've heard this before.


Flying cars have been done. It just didn't catch on because you also need a pilots license.

Also, getting on the soar alongside Hummers and the like in something built lightly enough to fly would be uhhhh... "exciting".
 
2012-09-19 01:26:46 PM  

Hack Patooey: 2040? I'll be close to 80 by then. If my car drives itself, how am I gonna plow into a farmer's market?


Manual override! You don't need some fancy-shmancy future-car doing your driving for you-plowed RIGHT into the farmer's market. Just RIGHT into it.
 
2012-09-19 01:26:47 PM  
Link 

Clerks - "The Flying Car"
 
2012-09-19 01:30:21 PM  
Have they solved the problem of bad road conditions and/or animals running out in front of the car yet? IDK if I want to get in an autonomous auto while is freezing rain outside.
 
2012-09-19 01:32:02 PM  
"Driving driving under the influence"?

I guess subby heard I liked driving and found a way for me to drive while I'm driving.
 
2012-09-19 01:33:13 PM  
Some people LIKE to drive.

Riding in one of these automated things during stop and go rush hour traffic would get me motion sick - just like on the bus.
 
2012-09-19 01:34:47 PM  
And I would guess that stolen cars will drive themselves to the police station too.
 
2012-09-19 01:36:01 PM  
If FartBongo is re-elected there won't BE a 2040!!!!!
 
2012-09-19 01:36:16 PM  
I foresee a lot of local municipal tolls to make up for the loss of ticket revenue citations.
 
2012-09-19 01:41:56 PM  
These types of articles always amuse me. You have to assume a 100% adoption rate for things like traffic lights to disappear, and most people are simply too poor to adopt new technology, and a decent minority have no interest in doing so. If you don't believe me, I can show you the guy at my friend's apartment building driving a farking '80s Yugo and all the local antique car clubs, respectively.
 
2012-09-19 01:42:16 PM  
What about those of us who happen to like driving? On the plus side, at least I can get laid while driving or play computer games. Probably, mostly computer games.
 
2012-09-19 01:42:24 PM  

impaler: basemetal: And we will all have flying cars too. Yeah, we've heard this before.

The problem with "flying cars" isn't the technology, it's people flying cars.

This sort of automated system would be something that would make flying cars feasible.


The other big problem with flying cars is the constant need for maintenance on aircraft. Every 3 months isn't nearly enough for flying vehicles. This problem isn't solvable until we have nano materials that are self repairing.
 
2012-09-19 01:43:45 PM  
People will be driving DUI to the ATM machine so that can use their PIN number? I'm sure they'll be listening to the MSM media on the way there.
 
2012-09-19 01:44:29 PM  

Prank Call of Cthulhu: "Driving driving under the influence"?

I guess subby heard I liked driving and found a way for me to drive while I'm driving.



He was prolly on his way to the ATM machine.
 
2012-09-19 01:44:52 PM  

bdub77: I'm sure those assholes will think up some new ways to pull over brown people.


...lol
 
2012-09-19 01:45:04 PM  

NeoCortex42: People will be driving DUI to the ATM machine so that can use their PIN number? I'm sure they'll be listening to the MSM media on the way there.


D'oh!
 
2012-09-19 01:47:51 PM  
i wonder how much revenue will be lost in traffic violations.
 
2012-09-19 01:48:01 PM  
If all cars drove themselves, the auto industry would have a problem, because performance would be much less of a selling point. I guess they'd still have ride comfortableness and amenities...
 
2012-09-19 01:50:25 PM  
The google car will be great right up until some joker hacks google maps or they just go out of date and miss a construction switch and 50 people in a row plow into a river because the signage/barriers set up weren't compatible with the override firmware and the emergency stops don't go off until the car is already rolling down gravel.

For all that an automated system can deal with 99% of driving situations as well as or better than a person, that 1% where you need a human's ability to derive things from context can be pretty damned important.

//Admittedly, emergency stops on a more or less level surface in reaction to a large wall/obstacle are not one of the problematic things, a lot of expensive cars actually already have low-speed auto stops coupled to rangefinders to help you parallel park/fit into a tight garage/etc.
 
2012-09-19 01:50:44 PM  

Semi-Semetic: What about those of us who happen to like driving? On the plus side, at least I can get laid while driving or play computer games. Probably, mostly computer games.


Same thing that happened to the people that happened to like riding horses. They still can. In designated areas. But downtown, interstates, or high traffic areas would require automation compliance to improve traffic flow efficiency.

If by the grace of God (or what-ever higher power you want) we ever do achieve 100% compliance, well, I'm not saying traffic would become a thing of the past, but it would be exponentially reduced.
 
2012-09-19 01:51:01 PM  

fawlty: Prank Call of Cthulhu: "Driving driving under the influence"?

I guess subby heard I liked driving and found a way for me to drive while I'm driving.


He was prolly on his way to the ATM machine.


As long as he can remember his PIN number.
 
2012-09-19 01:51:07 PM  

Droog8912: You have to assume a 100% adoption rate for things like traffic lights to disappear


No, you just have a to be a crappy writer who confuses something being phased out with it suddenly disappearing. I could see states and municipalities eventually introducing legislation that disallows the use of non-automated cars on certain roadways and eventually disallowing non-automated cars on public roads altogether.

Not having to pay to erect and maintain as many signs and traffic control devices is an attractive prospect to cash-strapped state and local governments.
 
2012-09-19 01:54:58 PM  
Dear god please tell me there wont be PT Cruisers in 2040!
 
2012-09-19 01:55:32 PM  

bdub77: I'm sure those assholes will think up some new ways to pull over brown people.


Are you suggesting that in the tail lights will still go out on these magic cars?
 
2012-09-19 01:55:48 PM  
You won't need a driver's license, but you'll still be required to get one, renew it, etc. Same with registration and insurance and anything else that makes money.
 
2012-09-19 01:57:00 PM  
My uncle has a country place that no one knows about...
 
2012-09-19 01:57:09 PM  

fawlty: NeoCortex42: People will be driving DUI to the ATM machine so that can use their PIN number? I'm sure they'll be listening to the MSM media on the way there.

D'oh!


I beat you both to it!
 
2012-09-19 02:07:45 PM  
At last, the final obstacle to my full-blown alcoholism will be overcome
 
2012-09-19 02:21:32 PM  

Droog8912: These types of articles always amuse me. You have to assume a 100% adoption rate for things like traffic lights to disappear, and most people are simply too poor to adopt new technology, and a decent minority have no interest in doing so. If you don't believe me, I can show you the guy at my friend's apartment building driving a farking '80s Yugo and all the local antique car clubs, respectively.


And 1980 Yugo is is 30 years old. If we come up with self driving cars today, in 30 years (2042) we'd have almost all cars self driving.
 
2012-09-19 02:27:04 PM  

jdemanon: i wonder how much revenue will be lost in traffic violations.


Part of why I wonder if they'll ever let it happen. Anything that'll take $$ away is not gonna happen until they get the $$ elsewhere... so licenses, permits, extra taxes, car prices will all go up.

And since insurance would be barely needed, that'll be another lobbying group that'll be against it.
 
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