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2012-09-19 09:25:58 AM
I know there have been some bad calls by the fake refs but the real refs make bad calls too. Let them hash it out. Someone will budge and we'll all forget this ever happened.
 
2012-09-19 09:29:42 AM
Yeah, like that will happen. Look, we just went through six long months of the desert which is no football, we aren't going to boycott it now.
 
2012-09-19 09:35:25 AM
The ads and tickets have already been sold. Boycotting won't do shiat.

It's gonna take the players and coaches boycotting.
 
2012-09-19 09:42:45 AM
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2012-09-19 09:48:30 AM

OtherBrotherDarryl: I know there have been some bad calls by the fake refs but the real refs make bad calls too. Let them hash it out. Someone will budge and we'll all forget this ever happened.


real refs make bad judgment calls, they typically don't f*ck up the rules of the game, and they don't stop the game for 10 minutes at a time to do so. the nfl is making record profits, nut up and pay the zebras.
 
2012-09-19 09:53:59 AM
Whoa. Bad idea. Look at what Sandusky did to college football with his boy cotting.
 
2012-09-19 09:55:46 AM
Of course the NFL would f*ck up the first time the Seahawks have been worth watching in years.

(well, they were kinda worth watching last year but you knew they weren't going to do anything due to the offense)

Anyway, the other thing that sucks is, with regard to games:

a) I actually want to watch my team this year, so I don't want to boycott those games.
b) God it's hilarious to watch them f*ck up games for teams I don't care about.
 
2012-09-19 09:57:04 AM

I_Am_Weasel: Whoa. Bad idea. Look at what Sandusky did to college football with his boy cotting.


i think you are confusing terms here. we're talking about people actively deciding to avoid watching the nfl until they come to an agreement and reinstate the unionized referees. you're talking about men f*cking little boys in their buttholes. easy mistake though.
 
2012-09-19 10:04:50 AM
manjr.com

Of course, he wants us to go to his Style Institute instead!
 
2012-09-19 10:25:51 AM
Only thing NFL related I want to boycott is Chris Johnson; guy has gotten me only 4 points in my fantasy football league TOTAL.

/should have started Ben Tate
 
2012-09-19 10:43:51 AM

OtherBrotherDarryl: I know there have been some bad calls by the fake refs but the real refs make bad calls too. Let them hash it out. Someone will budge and we'll all forget this ever happened.


If it was just bad calls, you might have a point. But bad calls are a relatively low priority.

Game management, professionalism, clarity, and consistency have all been terrible. Steve Young made the point that nothing seems to damage demand for football, but if one quarter is going to take an hour to play, they'll start to test the limits of that demand.
 
2012-09-19 10:49:26 AM
OK, so if anyone's actually paying attention at the NFL, here is what I think will happen sooner or later. One of the Lingerie Bowl rejects you have reffing your games now will do something illegal, like throw a game. These fat clueless guys running around trying to figure out what team is "Red" are probably not going to say no to a big payday from a gambler for a one-time shot at a fix.

Its pretty clear the refs have zero idea what theyre doing. They're worse than any college ref I've seen, worse on the little things, like "game mechanics" or just spotting the damn ball. Worse on positioning on the field.

Its clear the NFL isn't using high college league refs, or even D2 refs. I don't know where they got these guys, but they look like lost high school or less referees out there. Out of shape, and unable to even comprehend half the time what just happened.

This is why games are taking 4+ hours now, this is why melees are happening like during Denver v Atlanta. Nobody got kicked out of that game, yet punches were thrown.

The NFL spent decades building its image, now its flushing all that over some inconsequential bargaining point with the real referees.

They replacements are comedic now. How long til one of them realizes he has a week or two left before returning to obscurity and figures he's never going to get this shot at a payday again, might as well go for it? And fixes a game, a few key calls would do it.
 
2012-09-19 10:58:32 AM
this is AMERICA.

We choose QUANTITY over QUALITY every single time.

Boycotting is not Quantity.
 
2012-09-19 11:09:14 AM

Generation_D: One of the Lingerie Bowl rejects you have reffing your games now will do something illegal, like throw a game.


I wouldn't be surprised, but how would we find out? How far do you think the NFL would be willing to go to keep that from getting out? How far would ESPN go?
 
2012-09-19 11:13:25 AM

FishyFred: OtherBrotherDarryl: I know there have been some bad calls by the fake refs but the real refs make bad calls too. Let them hash it out. Someone will budge and we'll all forget this ever happened.

If it was just bad calls, you might have a point. But bad calls are a relatively low priority.

Game management, professionalism, clarity, and consistency have all been terrible. Steve Young made the point that nothing seems to damage demand for football, but if one quarter is going to take an hour to play, they'll start to test the limits of that demand.


I get your point. Frankly, what's testing my limits is the additional flags for hard hitting and the league's desire to have fewer kick returns. The fake refs will get better over the next few games but I do hope this issue is resolved. However, I don't think it simply means placing the blame on the league and not the refs.
 
2012-09-19 11:25:33 AM

OtherBrotherDarryl: The fake refs will get better over the next few games


The NFL's former head of ref training gave a radio interview the other day and his opinion was that they will get worse, not better.

The league deserves every piece of shiat flung its way on this one.
 
2012-09-19 11:30:14 AM
The minute Vegas takes a bath on a huge game because of a bad call the regular refs will be back so fast Ed Hochuli will still have 600-pound dumbbells in each hand.
 
2012-09-19 11:32:16 AM
You know what would have done something?

John Fox and the Broncos not coming out of the locker room after half time.
 
2012-09-19 11:39:32 AM
The only way the NFL caves is when marquee players like Aaron Rodgers or Arian Foster or Calvin Johnson start getting injured in post-play scrums/ fights that would not happen with the regular refs.

And it will happen. There will be a key play in a close game and the whistle will blow (or should have been blown), and there will be a fight that gets out of control after the play is over, and an Eli Manning or Drew Brees gets rolled up on or a Wes Welker or Larry Fitzgerald gets KO'd by a cheap shot from behind and the key player is lost for the season.

When the NFL starts losing their iconic players to unnecessary injuries, only then will they go back to the regular officials.
 
2012-09-19 11:42:28 AM

Mr. Coffee Nerves: The minute Vegas takes a bath on a huge game because of a bad call the regular refs will be back so fast Ed Hochuli will still have 600-pound dumbbells in each hand.

Bingo
 
2012-09-19 11:43:16 AM
The officiating has been so awful that I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to find out in a few years that the scabs were in cahoots with the real refs to pressure the league to reach an agreement.
 
2012-09-19 11:44:30 AM
LeSean McCoy

"I'll be honest, they're like fans. One of the refs was talking about his fantasy team [while he was reffing our game], like 'McCoy, come on, I need you for my fantasy,' ahhh, what?"
 
2012-09-19 11:45:12 AM
Oh goodie, another retarded Change.org petition. That'll fix everything.
 
2012-09-19 11:48:11 AM

SlothB77: The only way the NFL caves is when marquee players like Aaron Rodgers or Arian Foster or Calvin Johnson start getting injured in post-play scrums/ fights that would not happen with the regular refs.

And it will happen. There will be a key play in a close game and the whistle will blow (or should have been blown), and there will be a fight that gets out of control after the play is over, and an Eli Manning or Drew Brees gets rolled up on or a Wes Welker or Larry Fitzgerald gets KO'd by a cheap shot from behind and the key player is lost for the season.


What odds can I get on some Raven taking a shot at Brady this Sunday?
 
2012-09-19 11:49:16 AM
The linesman in the Atlanta game was actually working in Foot Locker right up to kickoff.
 
2012-09-19 11:51:59 AM
Meh, its all been a minor annoyance.  And its generally worked out evenly for both teams in the sheer majority of games.
 
Yes, it sucks to watch... but its not like they're throwing the games.
 
2012-09-19 11:54:45 AM

SlothB77: LeSean McCoy

"I'll be honest, they're like fans. One of the refs was talking about his fantasy team [while he was reffing our game], like 'McCoy, come on, I need you for my fantasy,' ahhh, what?"


I read that and I still haven't heard if they confirmed that he was being serious, but if that's true, that's a dealbreaker for me. I haven't actually watched a game this season, but I might purposely choose to avoid the league for the rest of the season. Even if the Jets go to the Super Bowl.
 
2012-09-19 12:06:37 PM
I appreciate the substitute refs. If anything it shows fans are really, really dumb. Don't let facts stand in your way. Just keep FARKing that chicken. 

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000087239639044381680457800461370181 3 182.html
 
2012-09-19 12:45:47 PM

OregonVet: I appreciate the substitute refs. If anything it shows fans are really, really dumb. Don't let facts stand in your way. Just keep FARKing that chicken. 

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000087239639044381680457800461370181 3 182.html


so their argument was that they aren't bad because in the very small subset of calls that are reviewable, they are doing ok. then they submit a laundry list of ways in which they are worse. not really great support for allegations of chicken f*cking.
 
2012-09-19 12:46:01 PM
the nfl should just settle with the officials. it's stupid that in a multibillion dollar industry the nfl are being douchecanoes about a rounding error. the nfl is not settling because they are power hunger pricks. fark the nfl.
 
2012-09-19 12:47:02 PM

FishyFred: OtherBrotherDarryl: I know there have been some bad calls by the fake refs but the real refs make bad calls too. Let them hash it out. Someone will budge and we'll all forget this ever happened.

If it was just bad calls, you might have a point. But bad calls are a relatively low priority.

Game management, professionalism, clarity, and consistency have all been terrible. Steve Young made the point that nothing seems to damage demand for football, but if one quarter is going to take an hour to play, they'll start to test the limits of that demand.


The games aren't significantly longer this year than last.

Aarontology: You know what would have done something?

John Fox and the Broncos not coming out of the locker room after half time.


That wouldn't have change shiat. The unholy hell which would have rained down on those guys would have been epic, though.
 
2012-09-19 12:48:39 PM
Not exactly...Steve Young said that boycotting football is the only way to save officiating. There is a slight difference.

In the short term, the replacement refs will not harm the NFL. They'll still have record ratings and people will tune in to watch the shiatshow. I'd say the replacement refs have a few years to improve before people start to lose interest due to poor officiating (assuming the contract dispute never gets resolved). If the replacements can't become competent within a reasonable timeframe, I think people will become frustrated and start questioning the integrity of the games. Wins and losses have less meaning because the questionable calls have such a huge impact on the outcome of the game.
 
2012-09-19 12:51:16 PM
Yes, the regular refs screw up too, but not at this level.

The NFL has never been serious about developing a minor league for anyone or anything. Not for refs, not for players. THat'd just eat into the profits. Who cares about the legitimacy of the game when people are throwing money at you.


Where do you think the NHL got its "fans don't matter" lesson from?
 
2012-09-19 12:53:01 PM

meanmutton: The games aren't significantly longer this year than last.


Yes they are. Check the link in OregonVet's comment.
 
2012-09-19 12:55:54 PM
As a Lions fan I love the replacements. No more shiatty calls against your team based upon reputation. Plus, watching the packers no longer getting bailed out with phantom PI calls every time those stone handed ass clowns drop a ball is nice too.
 
2012-09-19 12:56:18 PM

WSUCanuck: Where do you think the NHL got its "fans don't matter" lesson from?


from the fans. the stupid stupid fans that throw money at teams that hate them and blackmail the public.

/can you tell i'm not really a fan of the nfl?
 
2012-09-19 01:13:43 PM
I honestly don't care. It ain't like any one team will be punished more than the others intentionally so the bad calls will come out in the wash. Win some, lose some. They'll be back when they're back. And people will still whine about officiating when they are.
 
2012-09-19 01:14:54 PM

BunkoSquad: SlothB77: The only way the NFL caves is when marquee players like Aaron Rodgers or Arian Foster or Calvin Johnson start getting injured in post-play scrums/ fights that would not happen with the regular refs.

And it will happen. There will be a key play in a close game and the whistle will blow (or should have been blown), and there will be a fight that gets out of control after the play is over, and an Eli Manning or Drew Brees gets rolled up on or a Wes Welker or Larry Fitzgerald gets KO'd by a cheap shot from behind and the key player is lost for the season.

What odds can I get on some Raven taking a shot at Brady this Sunday?


Heh. You'd might as well invest in bonds.
 
2012-09-19 01:30:34 PM
Steve Young has had many concussions.
 
2012-09-19 01:34:20 PM

Generation_D: Its clear the NFL isn't using high college league refs, or even D2 refs. I don't know where they got these guys, but they look like lost high school or less referees out there. Out of shape, and unable to even comprehend half the time what just happened.


Hyperbole aside...most of them are DII or DIII refs.

Week one was acceptable...week two was a disaster.

And I said this after week one, I'm REALLY saying it now. These poor guys have NO IDEA how to call PI/Holding/Ill. Contact in the secondary.
 
2012-09-19 01:39:00 PM

basemetal: Yeah, like that will happen. Look, we just went through six long months of the desert which is no football, we aren't going to boycott it now.


I do have a feeling however, that if the refereeing gets bad enough and players start to get season-ending injuries due to the replacement refs, the NFLPA would go on strike.

Think about it: Goddell is all about "player safety"; so how are you going to preach this with a bunch of replacement refs that can't assert themselves?
 
2012-09-19 01:39:56 PM
The Fact of the matter is this, the only people that can dictate the outcome of this lockout is the players union. Yes they have a clause in their contract that prohibits honoring this lockout, but there are ways around that. If the players stand together and say they refuse to take the field because their safety is at stake due to the Replacement Refs the NFL will fold faster than the French in every single war since our Revolutionary war.

We as fans are virtually powerless. The idea that the millions of people that watch football every week will suddenly all not watch or not go to the games is just a pipe dream. Most of the tickets have been sold already (season tickets, teams that don't suck- talking to you Raiders). The only way this ends is if the Unions actually do what they are supposed to do and stick up for the little guys.

Personally I would hate the teams not taking the fields, my team is kicking arse this year, but if the NFL let that happen 2 weeks in a row the uproar from people like me (and most of you) would force their hands and this would be over.
 
2012-09-19 01:41:04 PM

downstairs: Meh, its all been a minor annoyance.  And its generally worked out evenly for both teams in the sheer majority of games.
 
Yes, it sucks to watch... but its not like they're throwing the games.


Except that almost happened with that linesman at the Saints/Panthers game.
 
2012-09-19 01:48:08 PM
The refs have only made 6-10 major mistakes that I can think of... That really isn't too bad considering that they have never worked at such a level. It's like putting a 9th grader in college, it's doable, but difficult. I should know. I actually enjoy watching the refs allowing the QB's and others get hit.
 
2012-09-19 01:52:05 PM
Why do we want the league to fold on this issue? The whole fight is about freezing the pension system and transitioning to a defined contribution instead of a defined benefit (oversimplified- 401k vs a lifetime guaranteed pension). Now I want the regular refs back... but this same issues has played out across the country as organization, company, state, city, and union has watched defined benefit plans bankrupt them. As it turns out guaranteeing a percentage of your salary for life after X years of service ends up being a fark ton of money. I don't blame the NFL from wanting to get out from under. every major corporation on the planet has either already done so or are trying the same thing now. I'd want to keep mine too... but I'm not gonna cry for these guys in particular. Millions and millions of people who make far less for more work have lost theirs as well.
 
2012-09-19 01:53:20 PM
Who would have thought a year or two ago that we would be here today looking to Bud freaking Selig as the poster child for successful commissioners.
 
2012-09-19 01:53:59 PM
I read the title as boy scoutting.. i didnt know what it ment but i clicked

boycott, football?? LOLNO my life is bland and boring, football is all i have to live for


plus if you looked at last years games as closely as people are this year you would find the same mistakes and calls.. its psycology man
 
2012-09-19 01:55:23 PM

JohnnyRebel88: The refs have only made 6-10 major mistakes that I can think of... That really isn't too bad considering that they have never worked at such a level. It's like putting a 9th grader in college, it's doable, but difficult. I should know. I actually enjoy watching the refs allowing the QB's and others get hit.


Who cares how good a job they are doing compared to their experience? No one cares about such a relative measure.
 
2012-09-19 02:01:07 PM

JohnBigBootay: Why do we want the league to fold on this issue?


because they print money. so maybe they shouldn't be nickling and diming over what is a rounding error in their books. they could just offer more money to the defined contribution side and settle it.
 
2012-09-19 02:01:15 PM

tbhouston: plus if you looked at last years games as closely as people are this year you would find the same mistakes and calls.. its psycology man


somewhat agree. There are more missed calls and game management issues. But it would not appear as pronounced if the players weren't acting like spoiled schoolchildren. The players are being bolder because there's a substitute teacher in class today.

Anyway, fark'em. They've been offered pay that could reach $200k per year by 2018 with 20k in employer retirement contributions. Counting preseason and playoffs I think the max you could work is twenty-five days. Yeah, I'm sure they have to study and go to clinics and shiat but I think their compensation is already beyond generous. STFU and GBTW. I was sort of on their side until I saw what the strike was about. fark'em - they're beyond greedy.
 
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