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(Bioware)   I feel a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of voices cried out from their parents' basements. I fear something terrible has happened   (blog.bioware.com) divider line 65
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2012-09-19 05:05:16 PM  
Translation: DA3 is going to suck so much ass that I'd rather retire than be blamed for it.
 
2012-09-19 05:06:58 PM  

scottydoesntknow: I feel a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of voices cried out from their parents' basements. I fear something terrible has happened

And much like the Star Wars reference in the headline, BioWare represented a young Anakin. He was ambitious, wanting to change the world for the good. Until he met Emperor Arts who, through subtle manipulation, twisted and warped Anakin into a shell of his former self. It was only after the full acquisition did Anakin cease to exist and Darth Vader took his place.


For christ sakes man, you could at least announce a "Spoiler Alert!"
 
2012-09-19 05:13:36 PM  

imontheinternet: Translation: DA3 is going to suck so much ass that I'd rather retire than be blamed for it.


It's going to be first person and cover based.
 
2012-09-19 05:14:52 PM  

wmoonfox:
To clarify... In both instances, Obsidian was handed a solid-gold property, and they managed to utterly destroy both, then refused to take responsibility. They're the worst kind of developer.


Obsidian have great game designers and writers. Unfortunately their QA and coders leave much to be desired. Every game of theirs feels rushed out six months too soon.
 
2012-09-19 05:21:40 PM  

imashark: Empty Matchbook: And I'm fine with more Mass Effect. After all the universe-building they did via the codex through stuff we never even saw or fully experienced, it's not like they're short on material. I can't remember where I heard it (I think on Giant Bomb's podcast), but someone floated the idea of a hard-boiled detective story set entirely on The Citadel. I'd play the HELL out of that.

Well, to be honest ME is the first time in a long time that an IP has birthed a universe that seems large, rich, and interesting enough to support a multitude of stories exploring previously obscured parts of the universe. If the IP holders were smart, they'd look into getting an expanded universe going (a la Star Wars). It deserves more attention.

Other story/game ideas:

a fleet combat-style rts/turn-based strategy

a patrol/combat vessel that gets caught up in political intrigue

an exploration of the [insert race]'s homeworld and culture that hasn't been explored in-depth yet

gun runners/pirates

science discovery of new destabilizing Prothean technology



I could go on.


They need to be careful though. The books have done a pretty good job with expanding the universe, but ME: Deception was just craptacular with so many glaring errors it hurt. It was so bad the publisher (and BioWare) had to issue a statement apologizing for even letting hit the printers.

Even Penny Arcade hopped on the Deception hate-wagon.

art.penny-arcade.com
 
2012-09-19 05:22:52 PM  
Wow.

People get upset about game companies?

That's like getting POd at GM or Amana.
 
2012-09-19 05:41:32 PM  

imashark: Empty Matchbook: And I'm fine with more Mass Effect. After all the universe-building they did via the codex through stuff we never even saw or fully experienced, it's not like they're short on material. I can't remember where I heard it (I think on Giant Bomb's podcast), but someone floated the idea of a hard-boiled detective story set entirely on The Citadel. I'd play the HELL out of that.

Well, to be honest ME is the first time in a long time that an IP has birthed a universe that seems large, rich, and interesting enough to support a multitude of stories exploring previously obscured parts of the universe. If the IP holders were smart, they'd look into getting an expanded universe going (a la Star Wars). It deserves more attention.

Other story/game ideas:

a fleet combat-style rts/turn-based strategy

a patrol/combat vessel that gets caught up in political intrigue

an exploration of the [insert race]'s homeworld and culture that hasn't been explored in-depth yet

gun runners/pirates

science discovery of new destabilizing Prothean technology



I could go on.


I think it originally WAS going to be an XCom/Fallout: Tactics-style turn-based strategy game. It'd be interesting to go back to that. Especially in a setting like the First Contact War, though now that an actual XCom is coming out, it may be too late for ANOTHER isometric turn-based alien invasion game so soon.
 
2012-09-19 05:43:15 PM  

douchebag/hater: Wow.

People get upset about game companies?

That's like getting POd at GM or Amana.


Or Hollywood. Or music labels. Or book publishers, if they forced upon us gems like "Catcher in the Rye 2: Zombie Boogaloo" and "Don Quixote: Revenge of the Windmills" while bleeding the authors dry and actively stifling all attempts at creativity.
 
2012-09-19 05:45:42 PM  
Which is to say, people don't like their hobbies being destroyed by parasitic suits and firms, and are justified in being critical and scornful.
 
2012-09-19 10:57:31 PM  

LoneWolf343: AntonChigger: DeusMeh: AntonChigger: Welp, time to jump on the OBSIDIAN TRAIN! CHOO CHOO

/Project Eternity here we come!
//Also, I really hope Grim Dawn gets released someday
///Borderlands 2 is awesome

obvious troll is obvious. right now obsidian is the only game company consistently putting out worse shiat than bioware

/borderlands 2 IS awesome!!!
//gearbox is my new lord and master

Don't know what you're talking about, Fallout New Vegas was an awesome game, and Neverwinter Nights 2 was pretty decent as well. I distinctly remember enjoying KOTOR 2, so I can't hate them for that, and they are involved in the upcoming South Park RPG. You're entitled to your opinion man, but I think you're the one that's trolling.

Fallout New Vegas was an okay game. It made me want to play through to the end, but not play it again, unlike Fallout 3. It's design was rather slovenly, and the DLC was hit and miss (Old World Blues and Lonesome Road were awesome, Dead Money was mediocre, and Honest Hearts was just awful,) though I do appreciate some of the fixes for Fallout 3's bugs.


I had the opposite feelings: F3 was terrible. One ruined subway corridor after another, the DLC never struck me, and the 'story' was utterly unscientific horseshiat (note: you filter radiation out of water with...dirt...meaning the whole thing was moot).

FNV I loved. Tons of different environments, outdoor/indoor, no subway tunnels, I enjoyed the DLC a ton too.

I don't mod either (I don't mod skyrim either), so I'm just comparing vanillas, not 'well you have to install these 400 gigs of mods to change it into a sidescrolling shooter' stuff.

My problem with the fallout universe is that it's getting a little long in the tooth, and they keep recycling the same setting style; it's been, what, thousands of years or something insane since 'the bomb'? And even with the PC being a superhero, how are there possibly any unplundered vaults, etc, period? How is any of the tech still functioning? No one has rebuilt anything beyond 'oh here's a token town/village thrown in so people can go 'nuhuh! See tokentown!'

It needs to progress. But it can't. Because then it wouldn't be fallout.
 
2012-09-20 12:55:59 AM  

kroonermanblack: My problem with the fallout universe is that it's getting a little long in the tooth, and they keep recycling the same setting style; it's been, what, thousands of years or something insane since 'the bomb'? And even with the PC being a superhero, how are there possibly any unplundered vaults, etc, period? How is any of the tech still functioning? No one has rebuilt anything beyond 'oh here's a token town/village thrown in so people can go 'nuhuh! See tokentown!'


Rumor has it that Fallout 4 will be based in Boston. Also, Fallout's granddaddy, Wasteland, is coming out with a sequel. Brian Fargo is heading it up on kickstarter.
 
2012-09-20 09:06:13 AM  
They consistently had the best written games in the industry, ones that would sit well against the better books written in each year they came out. Even the controversial Mass Effect 3 ending made complete sense from a story standpoint (although not so much from a gaming one), and they're worst game, Dragon Age II, was leaps and bounds above their competition in terms of characters, dialogue, and plot, which are the most important elements in a game to me.

/Although as a game, DAII was pretty half-assed.
 
2012-09-20 09:35:31 AM  

mokinokaro: Obsidian have great game designers and writers. Unfortunately their QA and coders leave much to be desired. Every game of theirs feels rushed out six months too soon.


I could believe that. Their stories are compelling, but that's pretty worthless if I cannot play the game due to bugs and incompatibilities.

luidprand: ... characters, dialogue, and plot, which are the most important elements in a game to me.


See above. Storyline is great, and immersion really sells the game for me, but immersion is totally shattered with a CTD and corrupted saves.
 
2012-09-20 11:39:04 AM  

kroonermanblack: and the 'story' was utterly unscientific horseshiat (note: you filter radiation out of water with...dirt...meaning the whole thing was moot).


Considering that the level of technology can best be described as "Retro sci-fi," I didn't exactly regard F3 for it's scientific prowess.
 
2012-09-21 04:34:20 AM  

Gunderson: kroonermanblack: My problem with the fallout universe is that it's getting a little long in the tooth, and they keep recycling the same setting style; it's been, what, thousands of years or something insane since 'the bomb'? And even with the PC being a superhero, how are there possibly any unplundered vaults, etc, period? How is any of the tech still functioning? No one has rebuilt anything beyond 'oh here's a token town/village thrown in so people can go 'nuhuh! See tokentown!'

Rumor has it that Fallout 4 will be based in Boston. Also, Fallout's granddaddy, Wasteland, is coming out with a sequel. Brian Fargo is heading it up on kickstarter.


Also, as far as I remember, the first two fallout games are barely 100 years after the bomb, with 3 being 200 years or so. So yeah, I never thought the level of rebuilding was not too off..kind of like a new dark ages with retro sci-fi tech.
 
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