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2012-09-18 12:52:55 PM
NFC West moved up a total of 20 spots as a group. Awesome.
 
2012-09-18 12:54:50 PM
You're right subby. The Eagles are overrated on that poll.

Two wins by a total of 2 points? Trust me, we don't think the Eagles are deserving of 7th.
 
2012-09-18 12:57:00 PM

BunkyBrewman: Two wins by a total of 2 points? Trust me, we don't think the Eagles are deserving of 7th.



and inexplicably, they are favored by i think 4 @ Arizona this week. Because, you know, ARizona is so bad at home.
 
2012-09-18 12:58:51 PM
2012 NFL Power Rankings: Week 2

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2012-09-18 12:59:45 PM
The Saints look exactly like what they are: a team with no head coach trying to implement a new defensive system. It's going to be a long season.
 
2012-09-18 01:02:32 PM

scottydoesntknow: 2012 NFL Power Rankings: Week 2

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So NOW they updated it....

/Dammit
 
2012-09-18 01:03:24 PM

BunkyBrewman: Two wins by a total of 2 points? Trust me, we don't think the Eagles are deserving of 7th.


But ranked below the Ravens team they just beat. You know Philly fans aren't going to take that very well.

rickythepenguin: and inexplicably, they are favored by i think 4 @ Arizona this week. Because, you know, ARizona is so bad at home.


I had no idea the Cardinals haven't gone 3-0 since 1974. Also, I'm not sure if Vick has it is him to turn the ball over 3+ times again.
 
2012-09-18 01:05:04 PM

Harv72b: rickythepenguin: and inexplicably, they are favored by i think 4 @ Arizona this week. Because, you know, ARizona is so bad at home.

I had no idea the Cardinals haven't gone 3-0 since 1974. Also, I'm not sure if Vick has it in him to turn the ball over 3+ times again.


Farking hangover.
 
2012-09-18 01:06:17 PM
Top 25 team, w00t!
 
2012-09-18 01:11:44 PM

Harv72b: BunkyBrewman: Two wins by a total of 2 points? Trust me, we don't think the Eagles are deserving of 7th.

But ranked below the Ravens team they just beat. You know Philly fans aren't going to take that very well.


I didn't take it personally.

/yes, at the game on Sunday

rickythepenguin: BunkyBrewman: Two wins by a total of 2 points? Trust me, we don't think the Eagles are deserving of 7th.


and inexplicably, they are favored by i think 4 @ Arizona this week. Because, you know, ARizona is so bad at home.


AND the Cards are winning with Kolb.  Who knew?
 
2012-09-18 01:12:58 PM

Harv72b: I had no idea the Cardinals haven't gone 3-0 since 1974. Also, I'm not sure if Vick has it is him to turn the ball over 3+ times again.


I guess he's planning on getting injured this game, then, since he'll be going against the best defense of the three teams he's faced. I like that he sucks and then has to keep stepping up against tougher and tougher defenses, too.
 
2012-09-18 01:25:19 PM
The Texans are 2...

DAMN HIGH!
 
2012-09-18 01:25:48 PM
If anybody's "carrying" the Steelers' offense right now, it's Heath Miller, not Big Ben.
 
2012-09-18 01:26:52 PM

BunkyBrewman: AND the Cards are winning with Kolb. Who knew?


I was impressed sunday. He wasn't skittish / panic Kolb. He did at times but they way he moved in the pocket with the rush, we haven't seen that. He showed a level of poise that we have been waiting on for a year now.

he did make some dumb plays the way LT Batiste was playing Ole! football (kolb's blind side after all) it was understandable.


Harv72b: I had no idea the Cardinals haven't gone 3-0 since 1974. Also, I'm not sure if Vick has it is him to turn the ball over 3+ times again.



i saw that too and it is hard to believe. some lean years in the desert.

the Arizona defense is underrated. and while we certainly got lucky -- as i've said for a couple days now, that Seattle couldn't punch it in i think 5 times from inside the 10 last week and obvioulsy Gostkowski's gag job, we could be 0-2 but.....we're 2-0. No shortage of luck for both teams!

Just cannot understand how they are favored. and by 4 at that.
 
2012-09-18 01:27:34 PM
Giants are still a top ten side? I'm ok with this.
 
2012-09-18 01:28:03 PM
Saints continue to have the ranking they've earned on the field. Yup.

And the Browns certainly don't deserve to be ranked #32, however. Fitting that the only voter to raise them out of the basement is the AFC North guy. Chefs should be this week's bottom feeder.
 
2012-09-18 01:29:04 PM

rickythepenguin: i saw that too and it is hard to believe. some lean years in the desert.

the Arizona defense is underrated. and while we certainly got lucky -- as i've said for a couple days now, that Seattle couldn't punch it in i think 5 times from inside the 10 last week and obvioulsy Gostkowski's gag job, we could be 0-2 but.....we're 2-0. No shortage of luck for both teams!

Just cannot understand how they are favored. and by 4 at that.


Sounds like Vegas is begging for some serious action on the Cards with that line.
 
2012-09-18 01:29:51 PM

Rwa2play: Giants are still a top ten side? I'm ok with this.


I won't be happy unless they're in the middle of the pack at the start of December, then #1 in early February. Feels right.
 
2012-09-18 01:31:03 PM
Wooh, nowhere to go but up! 

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2012-09-18 01:32:29 PM

Nabb1: The Saints look exactly like what they are: a team with no head coach trying to implement a new defensive system. It's going to be a long season.



fascinated by the bountygate deal.....the NFL had suspicions what, 2 years ago that couldn't be substantiated, Payton is wisely STFU to preserve his ability to coach in the league, Mickey Loomis (for the same reason) isn't piping up, we don't know how Fujita and the other 2 (i think) will address their meeting iwth Gooddell, Gregg Williams signe dthe affidavit saying Vilma had the $10K bounty, that former Saint/Viking (if i'm not mistaken) supposedly confirmed the existence of the program then recnated, and in the face of all this, Vilma is insisting nothing happened?

it is an awkward comparison but it reminds me of Lance Armstrong. REcent years had many former teammates saying "yeah, we all juiced, and we know he did too" and he stuck to his guns. And then he gave up.

i just find it interesting how adamant Vilma is that everyone else is wrong.

but hey, the "everyone else is lying, except me" gambit worked for Clemens. Who knows?
 
2012-09-18 01:32:53 PM
The biggest joke on this thing is that the Patriots dropped from 1 to 5 after losing at home to the Arizona Cardinals.

That's like Arkansas losing to ULM.

The Cards jumps six spots but NE only dropped 4.

I know these rankings don't matter for anything and I really don't care, but if there is going to be outrage maybe it should be directed at New England's movement after a totally embarrassing loss at home.
 
2012-09-18 01:34:45 PM

srhp29: The biggest joke on this thing is that the Patriots dropped from 1 to 5 after losing at home to the Arizona Cardinals.


Well, coupled with the Seahawks win (well, the Cards' win over Seattle and the Seahawks' utter clowning of Dallas), you now have to consider that the Cardinals might just be a pretty good team.
 
2012-09-18 01:35:56 PM

Harv72b: After a sterling 10-5 finish last weekend, it's time to notch things up and go for the elusive 16-0 showing here in the Week 2. Some very interesting games this time around, featuring allegedly strong teams looking to rebound after poor week 1 showings and last week's surprises trying to prove they're for real. Also, the Raiders play the Dolphins. As always, winners are in bold

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Chicago Bears at Green Bay Packers:
So after all the talk about how difficult it would be to cover Chicago's receivers, it turned out that all the Packers DBs had to do was create separation and wait for Jay Cutler to throw them the ball. An ugly, gritty game which brought back memories of the old NFC Norris division. 1-0


Kansas City Chiefs at Buffalo Bills:
I asked which team would rebound from their disastrous week 1 performances and boy was I wrong about the answer. Buffalo dominated this game even more than the 35-17 final would suggest, and C.J. Spiller is rapidly making a name for himself with 292 rushing yards in two weeks....on only 29 carries. 1-1

New Orleans Saints at Carolina Panthers:
The week one loss to Washington you could kind of discount as being RG3's coming-out party. The loss in Carolina is more worrying, particularly the 219 yards given up on the ground (worst in the league through 2 weeks) to a team which managed only 10 the week before. 1-2


Cleveland Browns at Cincinnati Bengals:
It's early in his career yet, but it appears that Brandon Weeden's performance in games can be predicted by whether or not he gets swallowed up by a giant American flag during warmups. Despite the loss, the overall performance (at least, on offense) has to be encouraging for Cleveland, while in Cincinnati A.J. Dalton's great performance is offset somewhat by the fact that the defense has now allowed 71 points in their first two games. 2-2


Minnesota Vikings at Indianapolis Colts:
The part-time Adrian Peterson I mentioned went for 60 yards on 16 carries...and led all rushers for the game. Statistically, Christian Ponder outplayed Andrew Luck although obviously Luck gets all the press (and the win). A Colts' field goal with 12 seconds remaining kept the Vikings out of their second OT game in as many tries. 2-3


Houston Texans at Jacksonville Jaguars:
Until a slew of injuries gutted the defense and left Houston down to their third-string QB last season, they were playing like championship contenders...with everyone healthy this season they've picked up right where that left off. With only one other 2-0 team remaining in the conference the Texans look like they might just be the team to beat in the AFC. 3-3


Oakland Raiders at Miami Dolphins:
Okay, so Oakland finding a way to lose another game isn't such a huge surprise, but losing it so convincingly to the Miami Dolphins? That takes a level of skill usually only seen from...well, from the Miami Dolphins. The good news for Raider fans is that, given the way this season is going, they'll probably beat Pittsburgh 93-7 next week. 3-4

Arizona Cardinals at New England Patriots:
I just felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced. I fear something terrible has happened...to NFL survivor pools across the nation. 3-5


Tampa Bay Buccaneers at New York Giants:
So all it took was 510 passing yards and a 24-point fourth quarter for the Giants to climb to 1-1 on the season. You know something loopy just happened when Victor Cruz hauls in 179 yards' worth of passes and ends up with the second-highest total on your team. 4-5


Baltimore Ravens at Philadelphia Eagles:
What makes this most difficult as a Ravens fan is that this wasn't yet another simple collapse on the road. Baltimore clearly played well enough to win, but in the end (and despite all the biatching about calls made or not made) it came down to the defense not being able to tackle Michael Vick at the 1, and the offense not being able to gain 10 more yards at the end. 4-6


Dallas Cowboys at Seattle Seahawks:
He wasn't exactly the prototypical Evil Romo, but Tony & the Cowboys just couldn't get anything going against a tough Seahawks defense (3rd in the league in points allowed). Russell Wilson did exactly what you want from a rookie QB, while Marshawn Lynch provided the big numbers. 5-6


Washington Redskins at St. Louis Rams:
Well, I was certainly right about the Redskins not being as good as they looked against the Saints last week. RG3 continues to impress, but on the other side of the ball you can discount 32 points allowed to New Orleans...giving up 31 to the Rams is a bit more worrying. Sam Bradford, meanwhile, suddenly looked like a good NFL quarterback again. 5-7


New York Jets at Pittsburgh Steelers:
The return of Ryan Clark was indeed a difference-maker for the Steelers, while New York shoulda maybe saved some of that week 1 offense for this contest. 6-7

Tennessee Titans at San Diego Chargers:
Like I said, with neither team looking demonstratively better than the other, home field will make the difference. Okay, so the difference led to a dominant 28-point win for San Diego, but...yeah, so what? I picked the right team to win. 7-7

Detroit Lions at San Francisco 49ers:
I don't see how the 49ers won't be the top-ranked team in every poll this week. They are not only 2-0 and coming off a very strong season, they're 2-0 after convincing wins against two of the top NFC teams from the 2011 season. Alex Smith may not remind anyone of Montana or Young, but he's showing that in the right offensive scheme he is plenty good enough to win consistently. 8-7

Denver Broncos at Atlanta Falcons:
The "true marquee matchup" wound up being painful to watch, between the Broncos' four first-quarter turnovers and officiating gaffes early on. As I said in the MNF thread, though, this is one of those games where the Broncos come away on a high having nearly completed the comeback despite that disastrous first quarter, while the Falcons can't be too pleased not to have put this one away early when given the chance. 9-7


Given some of the craziness of this week I'm not too upset about a 9-7 finish. What we're seeing so far is a great deal of parity beyond the top few teams, evidenced by 20 clubs currently sitting on 1-1 records, which will make for a very interesting December should that trend hold up. Meanwhile, I'll postpone my flawless victory for week 3. ;)
 
2012-09-18 01:37:19 PM
2 more things:

1. The browns and Jags should switch spots
2. Rickythepenguin, do you believe in trap games yet? Your team just took full advantage
 
2012-09-18 01:38:18 PM
Iggles are 2-0, so take your butthurt elsewhere, subby.
 
2012-09-18 01:39:39 PM

srhp29: The Cards jumps six spots but NE only dropped 4.

I know these rankings don't matter for anything and I really don't care, but if there is going to be outrage maybe it should be directed at New England's movement after a totally embarrassing loss at home.


Uh.....You do know Bristol is only about 100 miles away from Foxboro, right?

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Rwa2play: Sounds like Vegas is begging for some serious action on the Cards with that line.



Bill Simmons tweeted sunday morning that despite a ton of action being bet on the Ravens, the line never wavered at i think Eagles -2.5. his tweet was like, 'congratulations to the Eagles on their win today. all over the country people are taking the ravens and the line never moved. Red flag."

and he's proven right with the win. by one, but a win.

interesting.
 
2012-09-18 01:39:58 PM
18. Jets: If you listen carefully, you can start to hear the chants for Tim Tebow after Mark Sanchez's 10-completion game in the ESPN studios

FTFESPN

/Tebow also had only 10 completions in his playoff game against the Steelers.
 
2012-09-18 01:40:42 PM

HaywoodJablonski: 2. Rickythepenguin, do you believe in trap games yet? Your team just took full advantage



gaaaaah! a pox on you!

i listened to Cousin Sal and SImmons last night and I forget which game it was -- dallas seattle? -- and they busted out the trap game excuse. jackbags.
 
2012-09-18 01:44:13 PM

rickythepenguin: HaywoodJablonski: 2. Rickythepenguin, do you believe in trap games yet? Your team just took full advantage


gaaaaah! a pox on you!

i listened to Cousin Sal and SImmons last night and I forget which game it was -- dallas seattle? -- and they busted out the trap game excuse. jackbags.


Dallas/Seattle was no trap game, but AZ at NE before NE plays Balt is classic trap game/lookahead stuff.

I'll start calling them out ahead of time going forward!
 
2012-09-18 01:44:48 PM
WHAR GRAF? WHAR??!!?

/and the Jake
 
2012-09-18 01:45:36 PM
I dunno. I feel that the Raiders are a couple of spots too high, after losing to a team that a lot of people thought could go 0-16.
 
2012-09-18 01:47:36 PM

IAmRight: srhp29: The biggest joke on this thing is that the Patriots dropped from 1 to 5 after losing at home to the Arizona Cardinals.

Well, coupled with the Seahawks win (well, the Cards' win over Seattle and the Seahawks' utter clowning of Dallas), you now have to consider that the Cardinals might just be a pretty good team.


I considered that but the Cardinals are still ranked 14th (9 spots behind New England even though they are 2-0 and beat that very New England team on New England's home field) in this very ranking and the Seahawks 17th (2 spots behind Dallas who they embarrassed).
 
2012-09-18 01:48:13 PM

bentleypm: If anybody's "carrying" the Steelers' offense right now, it's Heath Miller, not Big Ben.


Hey Ben looked pretty good when he actually had three seconds to throw the ball. Maybe Haley is some kind of offensive genius and can continue to get points from an offense where the o-line only counts to 1 Mississippi before letting 5 guys jump on Ben.

At least that game gave me some hope the Steelers won't lose 10 games this year.

/more likely...the offense will struggle all year with no blocking and they'll only lose 9
 
2012-09-18 01:48:33 PM

rickythepenguin: srhp29: The Cards jumps six spots but NE only dropped 4.

I know these rankings don't matter for anything and I really don't care, but if there is going to be outrage maybe it should be directed at New England's movement after a totally embarrassing loss at home.

Uh.....You do know Bristol is only about 100 miles away from Foxboro, right?


The Patriots usually will lose a few games to teams they should beat every year. And they usually seem to beat themselves.

I agree they are too high on the rankings, but another week or two like this one and they'll be rightly in the 20's.
 
2012-09-18 01:49:28 PM

Neeek: I dunno. I feel that the Raiders are a couple of spots too high, after losing to a team that a lot of people thought could go 0-16.


The same thing happened last year too against the Dolphins, with almost identical results (14-34 I think the week 12 game was ), so I wasn't terribly surprised. But as a sad Raider fan, I'd like to be at least above the Browns in the rankings, if we do slip lower.
 
2012-09-18 01:49:49 PM
I need to see who got the Delhomme. WHAR DELHOME WHE
 
2012-09-18 01:50:01 PM

rickythepenguin: i listened to Cousin Sal and SImmons last night and I forget which game it was -- dallas seattle? -- and they busted out the trap game excuse. jackbags.


As we have discussed previously - and I agree with you - there's no such thing in the NFL. For seven farking days about 50 workaholic type a personality micromanagers do nothing but obsess over the smallest minutiae about the upcoming opponent with reams of laminated spreadsheets and gigabytes of HD film in frame by frame slo-mo. The very idea that the fifty-three behemoths who are ultimately paid for their successes on the field could somehow collectively underestimate their opponent in the face of the preparation onslaught is preposterous. Even the dumbasses who might do so, the dumbasses who skip meetings or fall asleep... still want to block their man, bust the wedge, catch the pass, and make the tackle. So they can get paid.

Face it - If you lost, you got beat, not trapped. We need not have a canned cause for defeats. It's the farking thunderdome - two teams enter, one team leaves with the victory, even if they both play well or both play poorly.
 
2012-09-18 01:50:07 PM
Okay, I just looked at the individual rankings.

Um...Graziano...you might notice that you have the Cowboys SEVEN SPOTS above the Seahawks, who just utterly annihilated the Cowboys to the point that they didn't bother kicking an easy FG at the end of the game because there was no point running up the score on them any more. You should probably fix that, because you look like a moron. The rest of you (besides Sando) also look stupid for that.

Arizona (2-0) beats New England (1-1) in New England: New England ranked 9 spots ahead.
Seattle (1-1) annihilates Dallas (1-1) in Seattle: Dallas ranked 2 spots ahead.
St. Louis (1-1) beats Washington (1-1): Washington ranked 3 spots ahead.

I appreciate the 20 spots moved up overall, but damn. Oh well, gotta prove it again this week. Hopefully they actually do it and get the third 4-0 week since the division change in 2002 (these are rare for everyone simply because there's often a division game to screw it up).
 
2012-09-18 01:50:10 PM

HaywoodJablonski: The Texans are 2...

DAMN HIGH!


I was a little worried before last night's game that Denver might give the Texans some trouble, now I don't think that'll be an issue. If the Falcon's secondary can manhandle Manning the way they did, Texans' secondary should have no problem. Add on JJ SWatt and it should be a fun game for Texans fans.
 
2012-09-18 01:50:16 PM

Arkanaut: 18. Jets: If you listen carefully, you can start to hear the chants for Tim Tebow after Mark Sanchez's 10-completion game in the ESPN studios

FTFESPN

/Tebow also had only 10 completions in his playoff game against the Steelers.


And beat the Steelers with those 10 completions. Dirty Sanchez lost with his 10 completions.
 
2012-09-18 01:50:37 PM

Yanks_RSJ: Rwa2play: Giants are still a top ten side? I'm ok with this.

I won't be happy unless they're in the middle of the pack at the start of December, then #1 in early February. Feels right.


True, true. Somewhat intrigued by the Panthers on Thursday: Are they the team that struggled with TB or the team that took out a disheveled Saints team on Sunday?
 
2012-09-18 01:51:07 PM

Lunchlady: The Patriots usually will lose a few games to teams they should beat every year.


Like those two times they lost to the Giants in the Super Bowl.
 
2012-09-18 01:53:51 PM
WTF happened to the Cowboys this weekend? I missed the game due to moving to my new house and ATT has scheduled me for instalation of cable/internet on Oct 5th (hoping for someone to cancel so I can be bumped up). From what I've read the special teams sucked and the defense couldn't stop a highschool running back - granted that Ratiff is out but one guy being out shouldn't explain the total lack of run defense.

Overall I'm not surprised at starting the season 1-1 but I expected a loss in NY and a win in Seattle.

Oh, and I've heard that the replacement refs took sucking to a whole new level this weekend.
 
2012-09-18 01:53:55 PM

Masterstuff: I need to see who got the Delhomme. WHAR DELHOME WHE


I believe Jay Cutler won the Delhomme, Peyton was giving him a run for his money last night, but just couldn't turn the ball over enough to dethrown the chi-town crybaby.
 
2012-09-18 01:55:19 PM
I don't think they used Dallas/Seattle as a trap game considering Dallas had 10 days to prepare for it. I'm sure Dallas was super-amped for next week's game against Tampa Bay, though, since they're such big rivals and stuff.
 
2012-09-18 01:55:51 PM

srhp29: Like those two times they lost to the Giants in the Super Bowl.


A precondition to losing in the Super Bowl is making it to the Super Bowl.
 
2012-09-18 01:56:21 PM
Broncos dropped to 10th...
 
2012-09-18 01:56:26 PM
Denver slipped to #10...
 
2012-09-18 01:56:41 PM

IAmRight: Okay, I just looked at the individual rankings.

Um...Graziano...you might notice that you have the Cowboys SEVEN SPOTS above the Seahawks, who just utterly annihilated the Cowboys to the point that they didn't bother kicking an easy FG at the end of the game because there was no point running up the score on them any more. You should probably fix that, because you look like a moron. The rest of you (besides Sando) also look stupid for that.

Arizona (2-0) beats New England (1-1) in New England: New England ranked 9 spots ahead.
Seattle (1-1) annihilates Dallas (1-1) in Seattle: Dallas ranked 2 spots ahead.
St. Louis (1-1) beats Washington (1-1): Washington ranked 3 spots ahead.

I appreciate the 20 spots moved up overall, but damn. Oh well, gotta prove it again this week. Hopefully they actually do it and get the third 4-0 week since the division change in 2002 (these are rare for everyone simply because there's often a division game to screw it up).


I'm just waiting for the Seahwaks to win 23-20 on MNF at home against the Pack and hear again how a team played down to the 'Hawks level instead of how well the 'Hawks played. We need a national sports network based on the West Coast.
 
2012-09-18 01:57:12 PM
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