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2012-09-18 01:52:09 PM
They hate us because we're liars who have broken our promises to them time and time again. We come in and install dictators and care nothing about the atrocities they commit against them so long as the oil flows. Bin Laden was out ally until we dropped his ass when the Russians pulled out of Afghanistan.

To say they hate us without cause or merit is just stupid.

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2012-09-18 01:56:26 PM
They hate us for our long, girthy, veiny penises.
 
2012-09-18 02:00:15 PM

Jackson Herring: They hate us for our long, girthy, veiny penises.


I think recess is over young man. Shouldn't you be in class?
 
2012-09-18 02:03:19 PM
They hate us for our freedom to murder interns and get away with it.
 
2012-09-18 02:05:44 PM
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nmemkha: Jackson Herring: They hate us for our long, girthy, veiny penises.

I think recess is over young man. Shouldn't you be in class?


Hahaha who the fark even are you
 
2012-09-18 02:06:02 PM

Jackson Herring: They hate us for our long, girthy, veiny penises.


Wasn't that just the Japanese?
 
2012-09-18 02:06:36 PM
They hate us for keeping up with the Kardashians.
 
2012-09-18 02:08:37 PM

Jackson Herring: =nmemkha: Jackson Herring: They hate us for our long, girthy, veiny penises.

I think recess is over young man. Shouldn't you be in class?

Hahaha who the fark even are you


Probably your father.
 
2012-09-18 02:08:50 PM

FarkedOver: beta_plus: The difference between Romney's supporters and Obama's 47% is that Romney's supporters just want to be left alone. They actually don't have a problem handing over their money to buy peace, but 45 years of doing so has not brought it and it has become obvious that it never will. Not only does Obama's 47% want every last dime of Romney's supporters, they want to kill them as well. But Romney's supporters are clearly all elitist racists and deserve what's coming to them.

That's the crucial difference between America and Sweden. When a rich Swede signs his tax bill, he doesn't worry if he's paying to raise the kids that will murder his children.

I think you're in the wrong thread. Also you might want to get that prolapsed rectum checked out, it's probably causing all that butthurt.


Oh, that is awesome. I have the retard on ignore, but quotes still show up. Don't want to miss all the lulz.
 
2012-09-18 02:18:44 PM

intelligent comment below: America and Britain carved up the former Ottoman Empire because they wanted all the oil. So they put in corrupt dictators and armed radicals. Now after generations the people want nothing to do with the western powers, but said powers continue to butt in and dictate policy. They hate you because your oil money corrupts their countries and causes such huge poverty and ignorance of the population.


Taking our money causes their poverty.

Liberal Logic.
 
2012-09-18 02:19:17 PM
We are, of course, hated by Americans like Obama, who was nursed on malice towards his homeland and who grew up in the shadowy alternative universe in which anti-Americanism is dogma.

Stopped reading right there.
 
2012-09-18 02:20:12 PM
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Happy Anthrax Day everbody!
 
2012-09-18 02:25:41 PM

pdee: continue to butt in and dictate policy. They hate you because your oil money corrupts their countries and causes such huge poverty and ignorance of the population.

Taking our money causes their poverty.

Liberal Logic.



what did you think they get money for oil and split it between everyone? like some sort of socialism?

Conservative logic: all the proceeds from oil go to the people, education & healthcare.
 
2012-09-18 02:30:48 PM

FarkedOver: Happy Hours: The My Little Pony Killer: No, they hate us because we bomb the bajeezus out of them, and you know what? I don't blame them one little bit.

When was the last time we bombed Iran? Or Syria? Or Jordan?

It's not just bombs. It's called imperialism. When Iran started having "democratic elections", we had to set them straight and install the Shah. We support brutal dictators so we can keep the tap turned on from those oil fields. We do this all at the expense of the people.


Which is why it's good that we're letting the Muslim Brotherhood rule in Egypt. Despite the cries from the right that we should have left Mubarak in place we have to let them control their own destinies. The Middle East has been changing hands between empires for thousands of years and it's time we left them alone. They have plenty of reason to be pissed off, and it has nothing to do with our freedom, and really not very much to do with a poorly produced film about Muhammed.
 
2012-09-18 02:31:35 PM

pdee: intelligent comment below: America and Britain carved up the former Ottoman Empire because they wanted all the oil. So they put in corrupt dictators and armed radicals. Now after generations the people want nothing to do with the western powers, but said powers continue to butt in and dictate policy. They hate you because your oil money corrupts their countries and causes such huge poverty and ignorance of the population.

Taking our money causes their poverty.

Liberal Logic.


After all, it's not like only a few wealthy elites get that oil money. ALL of the citizens get a huge cut!
 
2012-09-18 02:34:52 PM

mrshowrules: Saying "they hate us for our freedoms" is actually one of the few things Bush every got right IMHO. Of course, rolling back the freedoms gave the Islamic extremists an easy victory.



Are you aware, for example, that the CIA helped put Saddam Hussein in power? This is fact, aknowledged by those involved, not some conspiracy theory. And of course he is just one of many. The willful ignorance required for someone to believe that the United States is a "Global Force for Good", as the Navy commercial puts it, is why there is no hope for our civilization. The country with the biggest guns is the most dangerous country in the world, no matter how much you delude yourselves.
 
2012-09-18 02:35:46 PM

Isitoveryet: pdee: continue to butt in and dictate policy. They hate you because your oil money corrupts their countries and causes such huge poverty and ignorance of the population.

Taking our money causes their poverty.

Liberal Logic.


what did you think they get money for oil and split it between everyone? like some sort of socialism?

Conservative logic: all the proceeds from oil go to the people, education & healthcare.


Its their money. Its theirs to spend how they choose. Unless you think we should go over there in force to change their government to suite you. And its still not our fault that the money stays at the top. If I buy an product its not my fault the CEO makes 500 times more money than the guy sweeping the floor.

Translation:Our money does not make them poor.
 
2012-09-18 02:43:26 PM

Alphax: Citrate1007: They hate us for being educated, female, a minority, and/or poor.

Republicans, right?


Any bigoted group will do.....Republicans, Taliban, Southern Evangelicals...
 
2012-09-18 02:45:32 PM
They kill us because we insulted their invisible sky wizard with a prophet with a 9-year-old wife.

We kill them because if we kill enough of them, gas might go beneath a dollar a gallon.
 
2012-09-18 02:52:35 PM

dehehn: FarkedOver: Happy Hours: The My Little Pony Killer: No, they hate us because we bomb the bajeezus out of them, and you know what? I don't blame them one little bit.

When was the last time we bombed Iran? Or Syria? Or Jordan?

It's not just bombs. It's called imperialism. When Iran started having "democratic elections", we had to set them straight and install the Shah. We support brutal dictators so we can keep the tap turned on from those oil fields. We do this all at the expense of the people.

Which is why it's good that we're letting the Muslim Brotherhood rule in Egypt. Despite the cries from the right that we should have left Mubarak in place we have to let them control their own destinies. The Middle East has been changing hands between empires for thousands of years and it's time we left them alone. They have plenty of reason to be pissed off, and it has nothing to do with our freedom, and really not very much to do with a poorly produced film about Muhammed.


Yeah, I am sure that Americas new policy of nonintervention will gradually build a sense of go...

Oh, wait the hands off approach in Egypt was purely a practical matter and when a softer target presented itself the US cruise missile'd the shiat out of it so a pack of genocidal tribal warbands could seize power?

Nevermind then.
 
2012-09-18 02:57:07 PM
Well, that makes an equal amount of sense as "they hate us for our freedom"

Seriously, wtf does that mean? Bin Laden's followers want to bring death to Americans because we like to say that we value civil liberties (including freedom of religion)? Yeah... I'm sure that's what they're so pissed off about.
 
2012-09-18 02:59:03 PM

pdee: Its their money. Its theirs to spend how they choose. Unless you think we should go over there in force to change their government to suite you. And its still not our fault that the money stays at the top. If I buy an product its not my fault the CEO makes 500 times more money than the guy sweeping the floor.

Translation:Our money does not make them poor.


you are right, it's not our fault! we just give them our money then it's their to do with what they please, we are just innocent little angels here, we can't make the money we spend be used appropriately as a matter of fact, we are forced to deal with the bad guys, we didn't have any control over anything once we let go that money!


& by the way you're a lousy capitalist if you think your money has no influence.

I stand by this comment

intelligent comment below
They hate you because your oil money corrupts their countries and causes such huge poverty and ignorance of the population.
 
2012-09-18 03:02:18 PM

beta_plus: derp


For supposedly being a beta plus, you constantly expel epsilon-level derp.

*KA-WHOOOM*
 
2012-09-18 03:10:02 PM

Isitoveryet: pdee: Its their money. Its theirs to spend how they choose. Unless you think we should go over there in force to change their government to suite you. And its still not our fault that the money stays at the top. If I buy an product its not my fault the CEO makes 500 times more money than the guy sweeping the floor.

Translation:Our money does not make them poor.

you are right, it's not our fault! we just give them our money then it's their to do with what they please, we are just innocent little angels here, we can't make the money we spend be used appropriately as a matter of fact, we are forced to deal with the bad guys, we didn't have any control over anything once we let go that money!


& by the way you're a lousy capitalist if you think your money has no influence.

I stand by this comment

intelligent comment below
They hate you because your oil money corrupts their countries and causes such huge poverty and ignorance of the population.


So if we did not give them money they would all be rich? If not for our dirty money they would all be peaceful secular progressives? Without oil money they would have long ago switched to democracies and treated their women as equals?

Giving some people money does not make other people poor! Giving 1 person money does not put another person in poverty.

Are you so dense you can not understand that?
 
2012-09-18 03:12:12 PM

Happy Hours: The My Little Pony Killer: No, they hate us because we bomb the bajeezus out of them, and you know what? I don't blame them one little bit.

When was the last time we bombed Iran? Or Syria? Or Jordan?



Try Operation Ajax, where we overthrew the democratically elected leader in Iran and installed the Shah.
 
2012-09-18 03:15:28 PM
They hate us because they're leaders blame us for how shiatty their lives are.

Just like how Republican leaders blame everything on welfare, gays, and abortion.
 
2012-09-18 03:19:13 PM

coyo: Happy Hours: The My Little Pony Killer: No, they hate us because we bomb the bajeezus out of them, and you know what? I don't blame them one little bit.

When was the last time we bombed Iran? Or Syria? Or Jordan?


Try Operation Ajax, where we overthrew the democratically elected leader in Iran and installed the Shah.


1953 Iranian coup d'état

60 Years ago?

Iran Median age. Median age: total: 26.8 years
male: 26.6 years
female: 27.1 years (2011 est.)


30 years before most Iranians were born?
 
2012-09-18 03:21:38 PM

pdee: I stand by this comment

intelligent comment below
They hate you because your oil money corrupts their countries and causes such huge poverty and ignorance of the population.

So if we did not give them money they would all be rich? Tard? If not for our dirty money they would all be peaceful secular progressives? of course not Without oil money they would have long ago switched to democracies and treated their women as equals? Facepalm

Giving some people money does not make other people poor! True Giving 1 person money does not put another person in poverty. Dept of Redundant Redundancies

Are you so dense you can not understand that? messes pdee's hair


we are enablers, we are perpetuates. we ultimately (well as much as the percent of foreign monies we pump into their economies) have the first say, that is, are we bettering these peoples society or are we making it worse? if yes better proceed, if no worse, maybe we should rethink our role in this transaction.

you are correct in what you are saying but you are leaving a huge gap in the conversation. intentionally? perhaps.
 
2012-09-18 03:23:48 PM

malaktaus: They don't really hate us at all, they hate the image of us they have created. I've seen several Muslims comment on articles about the protests, and a common statement is some variation of "if America can punish people for insulting other religions, especially Judaism, these people should be punished for insulting Islam." Never mind that this statement is basically delusional, never mind the fact that we have neo-Nazis in this country who openly call for another Holocaust against the Jews and nothing is done to them as long as it remains just talk.


Ultimately I agree with what you are saying here, but its not completely delusional. The issue isn't just America, it is the "west", and much in the same way that many folks on the hawkish right throw norther africans, turks, kurdish, arabs, pursians, etc in to one big pot, and try to treat them the same; America gets tossed in the same pot as the west(specifically Europe) there. The reality is in Europe antisemitism and holocaust denial are meet with the force of law in some countries. I know we are not Europe, but if you have the ignore the differences folks in this country, you know it is going to be vastly worse in countries with less institutional education.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laws_against_Holocaust_denial
 
2012-09-18 03:37:47 PM
n fact, we are hated not just by radical Muslims, but by profoundly secular forces in the Arab World: the Ba'ath Party, for example, was the brainchild of an Arab Christian.


Christian = secular?
 
2012-09-18 03:38:06 PM

Isitoveryet: pdee: I stand by this comment

intelligent comment below
They hate you because your oil money corrupts their countries and causes such huge poverty and ignorance of the population.

So if we did not give them money they would all be rich? Tard? If not for our dirty money they would all be peaceful secular progressives? of course not Without oil money they would have long ago switched to democracies and treated their women as equals? Facepalm

Giving some people money does not make other people poor! True Giving 1 person money does not put another person in poverty. Dept of Redundant Redundancies

Are you so dense you can not understand that? messes pdee's hair

we are enablers, we are perpetuates. we ultimately (well as much as the percent of foreign monies we pump into their economies) have the first say, that is, are we bettering these peoples society or are we making it worse? if yes better proceed, if no worse, maybe we should rethink our role in this transaction.

you are correct in what you are saying but you are leaving a huge gap in the conversation. intentionally? perhaps.


You still take the absurd position that our money makes them poor.

If we did not buy their oil someone else would. If no one bought their oil do you believe they would be better off? Without oil revenues you think their standard of living would increase?

You can easily find many thing to criticize about the west's foreign policies toward the meddle east but at least leave off the insane proposition that our money makes them poor.
 
2012-09-18 03:38:20 PM

pdee: coyo: Happy Hours: The My Little Pony Killer: No, they hate us because we bomb the bajeezus out of them, and you know what? I don't blame them one little bit.

When was the last time we bombed Iran? Or Syria? Or Jordan?


Try Operation Ajax, where we overthrew the democratically elected leader in Iran and installed the Shah.

1953 Iranian coup d'état

60 Years ago?

Iran Median age. Median age: total: 26.8 years
male: 26.6 years
female: 27.1 years (2011 est.)

30 years before most Iranians were born?


The shaw was supported by the US government up until he was ousted in 1979, by the same people running the iranian govenrment today. If you don't think people in power will remind the people of how they took their country back from their evil oppressors, you will never understand the arc of history. So yes, specifically in Iran, that is still a big farking deal.
 
2012-09-18 03:40:10 PM

coeyagi: red5ish: They hate us because

1) their leaders use us as symbols and targets to distract and redirect their people's attention from other causes of their dissatisfaction

2) there is a long history of us meddling in their politics, installing and supporting vicious dictators

3) we are looting their countries of their natural resources

4) they are poor and we are obnoxiously and conspicuously wealthy

5) we are not Muslims and Westerners have a long history of waging war against Muslims

6) we support Israel, its existence, its displacement of the Palestinians, and Israel's bad neighbor policies

7) they have been trained and indoctrinated to hate us all of their lives (see #1)

8) they are aware that we dislike, disrespect, even hate them in return, or at best tolerate their existence

9) you get the picture.

10) We made The Jewel of the Nile depicting Muslims / Danny Devito as buffoons.




You placement of #1 is curious considering the fact that those leaders and the "other causes of their dissatisfaction" are largely the result of #1, 2 and 3.
 
2012-09-18 03:52:16 PM

pdee: You still take the absurd position that our money makes them poor.

If we did not buy their oil someone else would. If no one bought their oil do you believe they would be better off? Without oil revenues you think their standard of living would increase?

You can easily find many thing to criticize about the west's foreign policies toward the meddle east but at least leave off the insane proposition that our money makes them poor.


You make it sound as if the money we spend for oil goes right back to the people! That would be socialism and that is bad, so keep out of the people's hands..... Have they earned it!? NO! They just sit on land that happens to have natural resources, big deal! Keep the money in the hands of the rulers and the multinational companies, that's the american way.
 
2012-09-18 03:53:53 PM

doctor wu: coeyagi: red5ish: They hate us because

1) their leaders use us as symbols and targets to distract and redirect their people's attention from other causes of their dissatisfaction

2) there is a long history of us meddling in their politics, installing and supporting vicious dictators

3) we are looting their countries of their natural resources

4) they are poor and we are obnoxiously and conspicuously wealthy

5) we are not Muslims and Westerners have a long history of waging war against Muslims

6) we support Israel, its existence, its displacement of the Palestinians, and Israel's bad neighbor policies

7) they have been trained and indoctrinated to hate us all of their lives (see #1)

8) they are aware that we dislike, disrespect, even hate them in return, or at best tolerate their existence

9) you get the picture.

10) We made The Jewel of the Nile depicting Muslims / Danny Devito as buffoons.



You placement of #1 is curious considering the fact that those leaders and the "other causes of their dissatisfaction" are largely the result of #1, 2 and 3.


I didn't place anything but #10, bucko.
 
2012-09-18 04:11:32 PM
Fair enough, I see now that red5ish posted it, apologies. Having said that - "bucko"??! Seriously? I'm s-s-s-s-or..........I'm s-s-s-s....
 
2012-09-18 04:12:41 PM

pdee: coyo: Happy Hours: The My Little Pony Killer: No, they hate us because we bomb the bajeezus out of them, and you know what? I don't blame them one little bit.

When was the last time we bombed Iran? Or Syria? Or Jordan?


Try Operation Ajax, where we overthrew the democratically elected leader in Iran and installed the Shah.

1953 Iranian coup d'état

60 Years ago?

Iran Median age. Median age: total: 26.8 years
male: 26.6 years
female: 27.1 years (2011 est.)

30 years before most Iranians were born?



How long would you think it would take for Americans to trust a power that would overthrow their democracy?
 
2012-09-18 04:13:51 PM
Did overthrow, in the hypothetical, but I'm sure you understood the meaning.
 
2012-09-18 04:16:15 PM

pdee: You still take the absurd position that our money makes them poor.

If we did not buy their oil someone else would. If no one bought their oil do you believe they would be better off? Without oil revenues you think their standard of living would increase?

You can easily find many thing to criticize about the west's foreign policies toward the meddle east but at least leave off the insane proposition that our money makes them poor.



Im just gonna leave this here (again).

intelligent comment below
They hate you because your oil money corrupts their countries and causes such huge poverty and ignorance of the population.

pdee, whatever you get out of the above statement, just keep it to yourself.

oil money corrupts their countries =/= our money makes them poor
 
2012-09-18 04:43:43 PM

Anonymocoso: We kill them because if we kill enough of them, gas might go beneath a dollar a gallon.


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2012-09-18 04:51:12 PM

The My Little Pony Killer: Happy Hours: The My Little Pony Killer: No, they hate us because we bomb the bajeezus out of them, and you know what? I don't blame them one little bit.

When was the last time we bombed Iran? Or Syria? Or Jordan?

What resources do those countries have and are the native people able to extract and refine them on their own?


To be fair it's not always about bombing, in some cases it's easier to put in a puppet government, rule the people for 60 years and then wonder why they don't like you,
 
2012-09-18 11:45:24 PM

Huggermugger: As someone who grew up in the Middle East the daughter of a US diplomat (who was an Arabist), in several countries carved up from the former Ottoman Empire, I think that we should really stop invoking all of that stuff.



Why? the same people with the guns are in power

The citizens are still illiterate while the rulers swim in money

The area is backwards because that's how the oil money flows to the top, and it makes the west happy so they can get their cheap subsidized oil

Huggermugger: The Middle East has had more than enough home-grown nationalistic heroes in every country since they were oppressed by the Ottomans and the colonial powers


Home grown as in used by the west to secure their resources
 
2012-09-18 11:50:00 PM

beta_plus: The difference between Romney's supporters and Obama's 47% is that Romney's supporters just want to be left alone.



In between telling everyone else who you can pray to, what you can drink, what you can smoke, who you can marry and have sex with, who can vote, etc etc etc


beta_plus: They actually don't have a problem handing over their money to buy peace, but 45 years of doing so has not brought it and it has become obvious that it never will.


Isn't it strange when your people get into power they are directly responsible for 45 years of war?

But trust you this time, just like Bush was going to be the great compassionate conservative

beta_plus: Not only does Obama's 47% want every last dime of Romney's supporters



39% is every last dime?

More like you want every last dime from the poor

beta_plus: they want to kill them as well.



Like when Republicans talk about REAL AMERICA, REAL AMERICANS, TAKE OUR COUNTRY BACK, 2nd AMENDMENT SOLUTION

Projection again

beta_plus: But Romney's supporters are clearly all elitist racists and deserve what's coming to them.



No you are all just greedy misguided uneducated hypocrites so bound up in the rat race you will trample over anyone and everyone to live in a nice house while the world crumbles around you

beta_plus: That's the crucial difference between America and Sweden. When a rich Swede signs his tax bill, he doesn't worry if he's paying to raise the kids that will murder his children.


straight to a strawman, welfare recipients will murder your kids!

hint- it's Republican policies that lead people to be stuck in the poverty trap, that's when someone "murders your children"

And hey they could join the military, then murdering someone ELSES kids is damn PATRIOTIC. HUUURAAHH
 
2012-09-18 11:51:54 PM

pdee: Taking our money causes their poverty.

Liberal Logic.



They money goes to the citizens? Why do they have the highest illiteracy rates then? It goes to corrupt dictators the west props up
 
2012-09-18 11:54:48 PM

pdee: Unless you think we should go over there in force to change their government to suite you.



But you already have, by creating countries like Iraq in the first place, drawing lines in the sand, and funding their armies and dictators.

pdee: If I buy an product its not my fault the CEO makes 500 times more money than the guy sweeping the floor.



But if you don't like it, don't buy the product. THAT is liberal logic
 
2012-09-18 11:56:24 PM

tinderboxer: The shaw was supported by the US government up until he was ousted in 1979, by the same people running the iranian govenrment today. If you don't think people in power will remind the people of how they took their country back from their evil oppressors, you will never understand the arc of history. So yes, specifically in Iran, that is still a big farking deal.



The conservatives can't stop circle jerking themselves over Reagan who came into power in the 1980's

This idiot trying to claim 30 years ago was a long time and other idiotic false equivalencies and strawmen is wasting all our time.
 
2012-09-19 03:55:27 AM

pdee: Isitoveryet: pdee: Its their money. Its theirs to spend how they choose. Unless you think we should go over there in force to change their government to suite you. And its still not our fault that the money stays at the top. If I buy an product its not my fault the CEO makes 500 times more money than the guy sweeping the floor.

Translation:Our money does not make them poor.

you are right, it's not our fault! we just give them our money then it's their to do with what they please, we are just innocent little angels here, we can't make the money we spend be used appropriately as a matter of fact, we are forced to deal with the bad guys, we didn't have any control over anything once we let go that money!


& by the way you're a lousy capitalist if you think your money has no influence.

I stand by this comment

intelligent comment below
They hate you because your oil money corrupts their countries and causes such huge poverty and ignorance of the population.

So if we did not give them money they would all be rich? If not for our dirty money they would all be peaceful secular progressives? Without oil money they would have long ago switched to democracies and treated their women as equals?

Giving some people money does not make other people poor! Giving 1 person money does not put another person in poverty.

Are you so dense you can not understand that?


The money we give dictators for foreign aid goes three places, in this order:
1. To the dictator's immediate cronies to ensure their continued support
2. To the military, to ensure they don't raise a coup against the dictator
3. To the dictator's overseas bank accounts.

Any money left over--and you can see there is none--goes to helping the populace. In exchange for our foreign aid, the dictator agrees to whatever policies the aid provider requires--and it's almost never humanitarian purposes. We supported Samuel Doe because he agreed to let us use Liberia as a staging port against the Soviets and so he'd license our leaky oil tankers out of his country to avoid US regulation. We supported Mobutu Sese Seko because he agreed to fight the Angolan communists in the jungles of Zaire and save us the trouble. We supported Saddam Hussein when he agreed to fight Iran in the 80's, and agreed to support the Shah in Iran in the 60's because Mossadegh was too "populist" for the CIA's palate at the time. We installed Pinochet in Chile after making sure the "populist" democratically elected Allende was assassinated. Saddam, the Shah and Pinochet all got airdrops of cash from Uncle Sam for their agreeable stance.

It goes on and on. Sending foreign aid to dictators and totalitarian countries only ensures that they stay in power, spend next to nothing on their people, and can flee the inevitable rebellion or coup with fat Cayman Islands accounts. Now and then, you get a more benign dictator, like Trujillo in Santo Domingo, who uses some of his own cut after he pays off the army and his buddies, to do a few nice things for the people; but they never last. Someone like Sgt. Doe always climbs the back wall and kills them.

So yeah, I'm sorry, giving money to one person can make a hell of a lot of people poor, and also hate the nation that gives their dictator all his cash.
 
2012-09-19 04:08:58 AM

Gyrfalcon: We supported Samuel Doe because he agreed to let us use Liberia as a staging port against the Soviets and so he'd license our leaky oil tankers out of his country to avoid US regulation. We supported Mobutu Sese Seko because he agreed to fight the Angolan communists in the jungles of Zaire and save us the trouble. We supported Saddam Hussein when he agreed to fight Iran in the 80's, and agreed to support the Shah in Iran in the 60's because Mossadegh was too "populist" for the CIA's palate at the time. We installed Pinochet in Chile after making sure the "populist" democratically elected Allende was assassinated. Saddam, the Shah and Pinochet all got airdrops of cash from Uncle Sam for their agreeable stance.



Another student of history. Good write up
 
2012-09-19 04:37:21 AM
They hate us because their government keeps telling them to, and they're not smart enough to know better.
 
2012-09-19 11:05:52 AM
I pretty much despise people who say and think things like that so uncritically, so yes, I do hate them for who they are. Too bad I was born in the same country as those ignorant yahoos.
 
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