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2012-09-18 04:47:59 PM  

timujin: Anonymous claims to have gotten copies of his tax returns


Um, Anonymous? You sure?
 
Ehh
2012-09-18 04:49:45 PM  

Two16: Sofa King Smart: I still don't understand the 'conservative' hate for Carter...
if you look at his background he is EVERYTHING they claim to want...
actual military service (didn't have daddy get him a deferment)... devout Christian (even taught sunday school while he was in the white house for christ's sake!)... self-made farmer, still active in habitat for humanity...

B-b-bb-b-bbbbb--bbbb THA PANAMAR CANIALE!!!!


That's a big one for them. It doesn't even register with the non-wingnutty. So we had a treaty to give it back in 2000, and he honored it? Big deal. But to them it makes him history's greatest monster, even if Bush I got to be a hero stealing it back and use them newfangled stealth planes to bomb out a poor neighborhood when their former CIA asset went on the run.

And an American soldier shot a Spanish journalist dead. That went over REAL well in Spain.

Also, by actually being a nice guy who does Christian charity for the poor, instead of just paying lip service, Carter shows them up. Solar panels on the White House? Turn the thermostat down? FFFUFUFUFUUUUUUUU!!!!111
 
2012-09-18 04:50:47 PM  
I had imagined the video was maded by some busboy or waiter who plopped their phone on a side table just for laughs.

And I trust the idea that a person making $250K a year would donate $50K to this fundraiser was some sort of joke.
 
2012-09-18 04:51:21 PM  
So what are you insinuating, that i'm on welfare?

Also, he did not mention welfare in his comments. There are other ways for the government to care for you without being on welfare.

Here, let me explain this to you in your language: BAAAH BAH BAH BAAAAAAAAAAAH BAH BAAAH BAAAAH BAAAAAAAHHH


DROxINxTHExWIND: xen0blue: Someone point out where romney said anything that's wrong.

/not a Romney voter
//not an Obama voter
///Does not submit to groupthink from either side

I highlighted where Romney ws wrong. He said all of the people on welfare would vote for Obama. Way to step outside of the box.

 
2012-09-18 04:52:24 PM  

timujin: Anonymous claims to have gotten copies of his tax returns and are blackmailing him, threatening to release them unless they get $1M. If they don't get it by the 28th, they're supposedly releasing them to the public. I don't put much credence in it, but I guess we'll find out for certain in ten days.


That they are asking only one million is a sure sign it is a hoax. If the returns are as damaging as Romney clearly thinks they are, then one million is way too little to ask. Also a blackmailer would probably make contact though a private channel since a copy of the return would be needed to prove that they really had a copy. Besides if Anonymous really got those returns, their past M.O. would be to release the returns.
 
2012-09-18 04:53:07 PM  

Darth_Lukecash: Apparently the spin is on...Mitts heading to FOX this afternoon Link


Romney is so terrified of being called a flip-flopper that it's impossible to back away from a blunt statement like that. If his press conference is any indication, he'll stick to the assertion while trying to soften it. At least Fox won't try to perform any acts of journalism while he's peddling his spin.
 
2012-09-18 04:53:18 PM  
Tha Carter IV? Hot album, but not as good as Tha Carter III.
 
2012-09-18 04:54:57 PM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: xen0blue: Someone point out where romney said anything that's wrong.

/not a Romney voter
//not an Obama voter
///Does not submit to groupthink from either side

I highlighted where Romney ws wrong. He said all of the people on welfare would vote for Obama. Way to step outside of the box.


haha
 
2012-09-18 04:55:00 PM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: timujin: Anonymous claims to have gotten copies of his tax returns

Um, Anonymous? You sure?


well, they're, you know, anonymous, so no, I'm not sure. ;)

TheMysteriousStranger: That they are asking only one million is a sure sign it is a hoax. If the returns are as damaging as Romney clearly thinks they are, then one million is way too little to ask. Also a blackmailer would probably make contact though a private channel since a copy of the return would be needed to prove that they really had a copy. Besides if Anonymous really got those returns, their past M.O. would be to release the returns.


Agreed, but again, I don't really think it's for realz, but I'm curious as to what happens. It'd be really funny if on the 28th they say, "Hey, sorry, we can't release them, Romney paid up."
 
2012-09-18 04:55:31 PM  
"There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what," Romney said on the recording. "All right, there are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you name it."

How exactly is this a controversial statement?
 
2012-09-18 05:00:22 PM  

Mouser: "There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what," Romney said on the recording. "All right, there are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you name it."

How exactly is this a controversial statement?


He's insulting his base by implying that they vote for Obama. Gov't doesn't give money to single dudes, in case you haven't noticed. All this "charity" goes to people with kids. People with kids are more Republican because apparently that's what happens when your life switches over to a "higher purpose." The main reason that more people don't pay taxes is that some previous Presidents (Republican I think, doesn't matter) created a tax break for them.
 
2012-09-18 05:00:27 PM  

BunkyBrewman: Unbelievable. Some person (a Romney backer) takes a video of their candidate and now blames Carter's grandson for convincing them to post it online?

Take some farking responsibility you assclown. Carter's grandkid didn't record the video, you did.


They are supposed to blame themselves for convincing them to post it online?
 
2012-09-18 05:02:23 PM  
What exactly is anyone expecting to see in his tax returns? I'm not clear on this. If he'd done something wrong I'm pretty sure this administration's Treasury Dept would have very easily investigated it and he would be in trouble. Seeing as the IRS isn't knocking down his door, I'm confused as to what all the hubbub is about. I'm guessing that he, like a lot of others, legally invested in various securities and paid the established tax rates that are set for gains from those said investments. Is there a problem with that? I'm certainly not saying he's a great guy, I'm just curious as to what the witch hunt is about. My guess is if he released 20 years worth of returns and there was nothing illegal there, someone would simply find something else to ask him to release, just like the birthers would for Obama. Seems pretty pointless and fruitless. Maybe we can move on to something more important?
 
2012-09-18 05:03:21 PM  

Mouser: "There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what," Romney said on the recording. "All right, there are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you name it."

How exactly is this a controversial statement?


Even if you believe it is true, some of those people are republicans... so attacking them as victims who don't care for their lives is probably not the best way to garner votes...
 
2012-09-18 05:05:23 PM  

westfalc: What exactly is anyone expecting to see in his tax returns? I'm not clear on this. If he'd done something wrong I'm pretty sure this administration's Treasury Dept would have very easily investigated it and he would be in trouble. Seeing as the IRS isn't knocking down his door, I'm confused as to what all the hubbub is about. I'm guessing that he, like a lot of others, legally invested in various securities and paid the established tax rates that are set for gains from those said investments. Is there a problem with that? I'm certainly not saying he's a great guy, I'm just curious as to what the witch hunt is about. My guess is if he released 20 years worth of returns and there was nothing illegal there, someone would simply find something else to ask him to release, just like the birthers would for Obama. Seems pretty pointless and fruitless. Maybe we can move on to something more important?


Because people find his, "Believe in America" statements to be hypocritical coming from someone who dodges taxes by putting it in offshore banks. Legal does not always mean ethical.
 
2012-09-18 05:06:50 PM  

Mouser: How exactly is this a controversial statement?


The claim of dependence on the government, seeing themselves as victims etc.
 
2012-09-18 05:07:41 PM  

dletter: I am just so amused as how jealous the super rich are of people making $20k a year and how they don't have to pay taxes. Of course, cutting their income to $20k a year doesn't sound very appealing to them.


in retirement, mitt romney makes about $56,000 a day. let that sink in.
 
2012-09-18 05:09:53 PM  

FlashHarry: dletter: I am just so amused as how jealous the super rich are of people making $20k a year and how they don't have to pay taxes. Of course, cutting their income to $20k a year doesn't sound very appealing to them.

in retirement, mitt romney makes about $56,000 a day. let that sink in.


I also like how people white knighting for Romney and others are so fast to accuse of wealth envy. I suppose it hasn't occurred to them that the system is rotten from the inside out. The ones at the top have killed the gatekeepers and confiscated their keys.
 
2012-09-18 05:10:52 PM  
What? Something bashing a non-Progressive politician and it's not listed with a "Hero" tag?

Fark Progressive Brigade, I am beginning to lose hope in your powers of influence over Drew and his moderators.
 
2012-09-18 05:13:15 PM  

pxlboy: westfalc: What exactly is anyone expecting to see in his tax returns? I'm not clear on this. If he'd done something wrong I'm pretty sure this administration's Treasury Dept would have very easily investigated it and he would be in trouble. Seeing as the IRS isn't knocking down his door, I'm confused as to what all the hubbub is about. I'm guessing that he, like a lot of others, legally invested in various securities and paid the established tax rates that are set for gains from those said investments. Is there a problem with that? I'm certainly not saying he's a great guy, I'm just curious as to what the witch hunt is about. My guess is if he released 20 years worth of returns and there was nothing illegal there, someone would simply find something else to ask him to release, just like the birthers would for Obama. Seems pretty pointless and fruitless. Maybe we can move on to something more important?

Because people find his, "Believe in America" statements to be hypocritical coming from someone who dodges taxes by putting it in offshore banks. Legal does not always mean ethical.


Ethical like assassinating US citizens on foreign soil without a trial?
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/07/18/us-usa-yemen-lawsuit-idUSBR E 86H1BT20120718

But yeah, tax returns are the most important thing in this election.
 
2012-09-18 05:13:19 PM  

Mouser: "There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what," Romney said on the recording. "All right, there are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you name it."

How exactly is this a controversial statement?


He's claiming that almost half of the country are nothing more than lazy, unmotivated mooches who are dumb asses.

Most Americans are people who are hard workers who jobs and opportunity have been shipped off for the sake of corporations and shareholders "profit" Their wages haven't gone up the same rate as the "executives". Their medical expenses had gone up higher than inflation. Some live in areas where there are no decent services.

In fact, it only shows how out of touch he actually his with at least half of the populace.
 
2012-09-18 05:14:10 PM  

SouthParkCon: What? Something bashing a non-Progressive politician and it's not listed with a "Hero" tag?

Fark Progressive Brigade, I am beginning to lose hope in your powers of influence over Drew and his moderators.


Yeah fark is part of the liberal-lamestream-driveby-media-conspiracy. We need more republicans to make those kind of comments and maybe they will change their evil ways.
 
2012-09-18 05:16:18 PM  
When someone has that large amount of money, I'd imagine that he has an extremely diversified portfolio of investments, and some of that will be funds in offshore accounts. Not sure of the problem of that although I can see an argument saying it's immoral somehow to do what the US Treasury has established as being completely legal. Wouldn't you think that any money he made and placed into an offshore account has already had taxes paid on it before it got put there? From a business sense, wouldn't you place some of your portfolio in a diverse mix of accounts to include bonds, stocks (both US and foreign), foreign currency (take advantage of exchange rate fluctuations), and anything else? Seems to make great sense from a business and finance standpoint. Nothing says being patriotic means you put your investment funds into the least profitable mix of investments. I can see hypocritical in only a small sense. I'm just trying to look at this from a non-emotional, objective standpoint. I'd bet a tremendous amount of his investment portfolio is in US securities, of which we all benefit as that money is capital for businesses which is what keeps our economy chugging. Am I off track a bunch here without getting into like him or hate him dialogue?
 
2012-09-18 05:18:39 PM  

Headso: SouthParkCon: What? Something bashing a non-Progressive politician and it's not listed with a "Hero" tag?

Fark Progressive Brigade, I am beginning to lose hope in your powers of influence over Drew and his moderators.

Yeah fark is part of the liberal-lamestream-driveby-media-conspiracy. We need more republicans to make those kind of comments and maybe they will change their evil ways.


Anti liberal no longer means conservative these days. Plenty of non-conservatives are tired of this shiat as well.
 
2012-09-18 05:20:39 PM  

westfalc: What exactly is anyone expecting to see in his tax returns? I'm not clear on this. If he'd done something wrong I'm pretty sure this administration's Treasury Dept would have very easily investigated it and he would be in trouble. Seeing as the IRS isn't knocking down his door, I'm confused as to what all the hubbub is about. I'm guessing that he, like a lot of others, legally invested in various securities and paid the established tax rates that are set for gains from those said investments. Is there a problem with that? I'm certainly not saying he's a great guy, I'm just curious as to what the witch hunt is about. My guess is if he released 20 years worth of returns and there was nothing illegal there, someone would simply find something else to ask him to release, just like the birthers would for Obama. Seems pretty pointless and fruitless. Maybe we can move on to something more important?


I know that Romney hasn't done anything illegal with his taxes. What would hurt him is if he had paid far less % than the average middle class person due to tax deductions and loopholes. Most Americans doe not hate the rich for being rich...but they do hate any special "privileges" the rich get from tax breaks due to accountants the average American can't hire.
 
2012-09-18 05:21:09 PM  
Non-story and non-issue. What he said was in some parts true. But really, there are bigger issues than if Mitt thinks Obama supporters are victims. The whole middle-east explosion of anger (well, to be honest they're always angry) the solution is easy. Drop ship truckloads of Xboxes, flat screens and video games and they'll settle down.
 
2012-09-18 05:21:49 PM  

bluefox3681: pxlboy: westfalc: What exactly is anyone expecting to see in his tax returns? I'm not clear on this. If he'd done something wrong I'm pretty sure this administration's Treasury Dept would have very easily investigated it and he would be in trouble. Seeing as the IRS isn't knocking down his door, I'm confused as to what all the hubbub is about. I'm guessing that he, like a lot of others, legally invested in various securities and paid the established tax rates that are set for gains from those said investments. Is there a problem with that? I'm certainly not saying he's a great guy, I'm just curious as to what the witch hunt is about. My guess is if he released 20 years worth of returns and there was nothing illegal there, someone would simply find something else to ask him to release, just like the birthers would for Obama. Seems pretty pointless and fruitless. Maybe we can move on to something more important?

Because people find his, "Believe in America" statements to be hypocritical coming from someone who dodges taxes by putting it in offshore banks. Legal does not always mean ethical.

Ethical like assassinating US citizens on foreign soil without a trial?
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/07/18/us-usa-yemen-lawsuit-idUSBR E 86H1BT20120718

But yeah, tax returns are the most important thing in this election.


Way to change the subject. People find Romney to be insincere and patrician.
 
2012-09-18 05:22:10 PM  

mrlewish: What does it say when it cost $50,000 a plate for such events and the average person does not even make that much in a year?


Um, I couldn't afford to go back for seconds?
 
2012-09-18 05:23:54 PM  

super_grass: Headso: SouthParkCon: What? Something bashing a non-Progressive politician and it's not listed with a "Hero" tag?

Fark Progressive Brigade, I am beginning to lose hope in your powers of influence over Drew and his moderators.

Yeah fark is part of the liberal-lamestream-driveby-media-conspiracy. We need more republicans to make those kind of comments and maybe they will change their evil ways.

Anti liberal no longer means conservative these days. Plenty of non-conservatives are tired of this shiat as well.


non-consevatives have a problem with the liberal-media-conspiracy? where do you even hear about the liberal media conspiracy if you don't get your "news" from places like breitbart or merkin stinker?
 
2012-09-18 05:24:27 PM  

Headso: super_grass: Headso: SouthParkCon: What? Something bashing a non-Progressive politician and it's not listed with a "Hero" tag?

Fark Progressive Brigade, I am beginning to lose hope in your powers of influence over Drew and his moderators.

Yeah fark is part of the liberal-lamestream-driveby-media-conspiracy. We need more republicans to make those kind of comments and maybe they will change their evil ways.

Anti liberal no longer means conservative these days. Plenty of non-conservatives are tired of this shiat as well.

non-consevatives have a problem with the liberal-media-conspiracy? where do you even hear about the liberal media conspiracy if you don't get your "news" from places like breitbart or merkin stinker?


LOL @ "liberal media"
 
2012-09-18 05:27:08 PM  

bluefox3681: pxlboy: westfalc: What exactly is anyone expecting to see in his tax returns? I'm not clear on this. If he'd done something wrong I'm pretty sure this administration's Treasury Dept would have very easily investigated it and he would be in trouble. Seeing as the IRS isn't knocking down his door, I'm confused as to what all the hubbub is about. I'm guessing that he, like a lot of others, legally invested in various securities and paid the established tax rates that are set for gains from those said investments. Is there a problem with that? I'm certainly not saying he's a great guy, I'm just curious as to what the witch hunt is about. My guess is if he released 20 years worth of returns and there was nothing illegal there, someone would simply find something else to ask him to release, just like the birthers would for Obama. Seems pretty pointless and fruitless. Maybe we can move on to something more important?

Because people find his, "Believe in America" statements to be hypocritical coming from someone who dodges taxes by putting it in offshore banks. Legal does not always mean ethical.

Ethical like assassinating US citizens on foreign soil without a trial?
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/07/18/us-usa-yemen-lawsuit-idUSBR E 86H1BT20120718

But yeah, tax returns are the most important thing in this election.


Was it ethical for Obama to "assassinate" U.S. citizen on foreign soil?By the same yardstick was it ethical of these people to actively aid the sworn enemies of the United States in a foreign land? |

What do you think will happen if you aid the enemy? War is hell.
 
2012-09-18 05:29:06 PM  
Romney was spot on. Everything he said is exactly true. He should have campaigned on that. He is never, ever going to get an Obama voter to switch. But there are pissed off independents who have to pay taxes who don't care for welfare bums too.

Obama campaigns by saying rich people are evil and must be punished... Romney should campaign that poor people are lazy and need to get off their asses.
 
2012-09-18 05:29:55 PM  

impaler: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Earguy: I swear this whole video thing was on Fark weeks ago, don't remember if it was greenlit. Anybody else? Why is this hitting now, instead of back then?

It wasn't adequately sourced for the press until Carter found the poster and hooked them up with MJ and HuffPo.

/yes, some journalists have some standards

Did they think it was CGI or something?


Nah, just old fashioned animatronics.
 
2012-09-18 05:31:45 PM  
mrlewish: What does it say when it cost $50,000 a plate for such events and the average person does not even make that much in a year?

That you didn't get an invite to George Clooney's one for Obama?
 
2012-09-18 05:32:19 PM  

Thunderpipes: Everything he said is exactly true.


Problem a lot of that 47 percent vote Republican....
 
2012-09-18 05:33:40 PM  

j__z: mrlewish: What does it say when it cost $50,000 a plate for such events and the average person does not even make that much in a year?

That you didn't get an invite to George Clooney's one for Obama?


Those $50k/plate dinners are not *for* the average person. Those five, six, and seven-digit donations get you access. That's what they're paying for. No one in Washington is *that* interested in the ideas, needs, and concerns of the average person.
 
2012-09-18 05:35:51 PM  

Mouser: "There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what," Romney said on the recording. "All right, there are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you name it."

How exactly is this a controversial statement?


(1) Because it's untrue. (2) Because it shows that Romney has total contempt for half the people in the country yet still still thinks he's entitled to be President.
 
2012-09-18 05:39:18 PM  

JackieRabbit: All kidding aside. But this probably cost Mittens the election. He's going to lose moderates entirely now. I'm wondering how he's going to walk back from this one.


I'm imagining his attempt will be: "Freedom, Jesus, America, Repeal Obamacare, Jesus, Freedom, America, Repeal Obamacare. . ." the standard recording from Romneybot.

His campaign was on the ropes before this, the convention slump he got (instead of a surge) showed that he was in dire straits. This could be a knockout blow.

It isn't over until the actual election, of course, but for Rmoney to win the election now would be one of the greatest electoral comebacks in US history. It would probably take a true "October Surprise" to tip the tide.
 
2012-09-18 05:39:29 PM  

WhyteRaven74: Thunderpipes: Everything he said is exactly true.

Problem a lot of that 47 percent vote Republican....


And now you see exactly how deep his foot went. This is probably the most honest thing that we have heard from Romney for the entire campaign thus far.
 
2012-09-18 05:39:37 PM  
Hey you guys. Give this Carter kid a break. If he has his Grandfather's liver lips, he's to be pitied. for pete's sake.
 
2012-09-18 05:41:23 PM  

pxlboy: And now you see exactly how deep his foot went.


There's also the fact that many of the 47 percent are retired or children.
 
2012-09-18 05:42:17 PM  

xen0blue: Someone point out where romney said anything that's wrong.

/not a Romney voter
//not an Obama voter
///Does not submit to groupthink from either side


I like the cut of your jib.
 
2012-09-18 05:42:34 PM  

WhyteRaven74: pxlboy: And now you see exactly how deep his foot went.

There's also the fact that many of the 47 percent are retired or children.


Precisely. The subtext of his statement was clear: poor and minority voters (whom he considers to be one in the same)
 
2012-09-18 05:42:45 PM  

BunkyBrewman: Unbelievable. Some person (a Romney backer) takes a video of their candidate and now blames Carter's grandson for convincing them to post it online?

Take some farking responsibility you assclown. Carter's grandkid didn't record the video, you did.


Actually from looking at the video it appears that the camera is on a serving table or welcome table in the back behind everybody. So I'm guessing one of the waitstaff, you know part of the 47% that Romney doesn't care about, took the video
 
2012-09-18 05:43:07 PM  
The best presidents are those who know they're one of the people, not above the people.
 
2012-09-18 05:43:54 PM  

Thunderpipes:

Obama campaigns by saying rich people are evil and must be punished...



Man...I have got to start paying closer attention to the news. I can't believe I completely missed that! You'd think that a sitting president calling rich people "evil" and advocating for them to be "punished" would be a huge story. You know what? Screw the media. I've got Google. I'm gonna search for those quotes and see for myself.
 
2012-09-18 05:44:28 PM  
Romney sounds like Lady Godiva: "I get to walk around stark-ass nekkid, but if you scope out my weewee, that's a blindin'."
 
2012-09-18 05:45:06 PM  

BunkyBrewman: Unbelievable. Some person (a Romney backer) takes a video of their candidate and now blames Carter's grandson for convincing them to post it online?

Take some farking responsibility you assclown. Carter's grandkid didn't record the video, you did.


Also, Carter's grandkid didn't say really stupid "hey look, im unelectable!" things, Romney did. He just might be the guy who should get the blame for this, cause ... you know, he said that shiat. Its on tape.

When you get on the take-some-responsibility-assclown train, you might as well go all they way up to the "the actual guy that said awful stupid shiat" car, rather than stopping at the "its my fault assface over there got caught" car.
 
2012-09-18 05:45:18 PM  
"Well there are 47% of the people who will vote for the president no matter what, alright? There are 47% percent who are with him who are dependent upon government who believe that, that they are victims, who believe that government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you name it. That that's an entitlement, and that government should give to them and they will vote for this president no matter what."

The degree to which the truth hurts can sometimes be gauged by the vociferousness of those attacking the messenger.
 
2012-09-18 05:45:27 PM  

bluefox3681: pxlboy: westfalc: What exactly is anyone expecting to see in his tax returns? I'm not clear on this. If he'd done something wrong I'm pretty sure this administration's Treasury Dept would have very easily investigated it and he would be in trouble. Seeing as the IRS isn't knocking down his door, I'm confused as to what all the hubbub is about. I'm guessing that he, like a lot of others, legally invested in various securities and paid the established tax rates that are set for gains from those said investments. Is there a problem with that? I'm certainly not saying he's a great guy, I'm just curious as to what the witch hunt is about. My guess is if he released 20 years worth of returns and there was nothing illegal there, someone would simply find something else to ask him to release, just like the birthers would for Obama. Seems pretty pointless and fruitless. Maybe we can move on to something more important?

Because people find his, "Believe in America" statements to be hypocritical coming from someone who dodges taxes by putting it in offshore banks. Legal does not always mean ethical.

Ethical like assassinating US citizens on foreign soil without a trial?
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/07/18/us-usa-yemen-lawsuit-idUSBR E 86H1BT20120718

But yeah, tax returns are the most important thing in this election.


Yes, Obama is a mass murderer. Not sure why you, as an evident Romy supporter, would bring it up seeing as one of Romney's campaign planks seems to be that the mass murder just isn't quite mass enough.
 
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