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(NBC Chicago)   It was Jimmy Carter's grandson who convinced the person who had the Romney Unplugged video to send it to Mother Jones   (nbcchicago.com ) divider line 248
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2012-09-18 03:57:35 PM  

Vegan Meat Popsicle: Entitled: People making near, at or below poverty income who have little or no tax liability and virtually no income beyond what is required for the basic necessities of life.

Not entitled: People born into wealth, sent through expensive preparatory schools and shipped off to college with $100,000 in their pocket in cash who now want to cut the safety net out from under the "entitled" people so they can cut their own taxes and have an extra million dollars in expendable income.

/ that's probably a sustainable economic policy... yea... right
// maybe the asshole who won't release his own tax returns shouldn't be so critical of anybody else's?


FRAK'N ^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^
 
2012-09-18 04:00:01 PM  
dletter: "20k a year"

20? Throw in some kids and you could get to 50 without even getting creative with your taxes.
A family of four taking bog-standard deductions could earn 45k and still not pay Federal income tax.

http://squashed.tumblr.com/post/31757816989/mitt-romney-thinks-you-ne e d-to-take-responsibility-for
 
2012-09-18 04:00:56 PM  

Vegan Meat Popsicle: Entitled: People making near, at or below poverty income who have little or no tax liability and virtually no income beyond what is required for the basic necessities of life.

Not entitled: People born into wealth, sent through expensive preparatory schools and shipped off to college with $100,000 in their pocket in cash who now want to cut the safety net out from under the "entitled" people so they can cut their own taxes and have an extra million dollars in expendable income.

/ that's probably a sustainable economic policy... yea... right
// maybe the asshole who won't release his own tax returns shouldn't be so critical of anybody else's?


Or perhaps more importantly, many of these people that pay no income tax are doing so because of policies (tax credits, tax cuts, etc.) that were largely supported or enacted by the party that now bashes them for taking advantage of said policies.
 
2012-09-18 04:03:01 PM  
The moochers sure are butthurt by the truth.
 
2012-09-18 04:03:31 PM  
I still don't understand the 'conservative' hate for Carter...
if you look at his background he is EVERYTHING they claim to want...
actual military service (didn't have daddy get him a deferment)... devout Christian (even taught sunday school while he was in the white house for christ's sake!)... self-made farmer, still active in habitat for humanity...
 
2012-09-18 04:04:15 PM  

iamdonovan: Or perhaps more importantly, many of these people that pay no income tax are doing so because of policies (tax credits, tax cuts, etc.) that were largely supported or enacted by the party that now bashes them for taking advantage of said policies.


To be fair, the republican party today is so wildly divergent from the party that passed those rules that it may as well not even continue to use the name.
 
2012-09-18 04:05:11 PM  

vpb: The funny thing is that Romney has worked the tax system so much that he has to take the hit for not releasing his taxes, even though it was his own father who suggested that people who didn't were hiding something.

But it's OK for people like him, he is too special to pay taxes.


he's rich, you're jealous, we get it.
 
2012-09-18 04:05:28 PM  

Sofa King Smart: I still don't understand the 'conservative' hate for Carter...
if you look at his background he is EVERYTHING they claim to want...
actual military service (didn't have daddy get him a deferment)... devout Christian (even taught sunday school while he was in the white house for christ's sake!)... self-made farmer, still active in habitat for humanity...


B-b-bb-b-bbbbb--bbbb THA PANAMAR CANIALE!!!!
 
2012-09-18 04:05:38 PM  

iamdonovan: Or perhaps more importantly, many of these people that pay no income tax are doing so because of policies (tax credits, tax cuts, etc.) that were largely supported or enacted by the party that now bashes them for taking advantage of said policies.


What we are seeing is the cumulative effect of a century or so of tax policies by both parties.
 
2012-09-18 04:05:51 PM  
"I dont like criticism of my family," James Carter IV tells NBC News."

I like this kid. A lot. I always wondered why more politicians kids don't come out like this. Hell, I get irritated when people tell lies about Obama and I don't even know him. Imagining they are talking about my father would send me over the edge.
 
2012-09-18 04:08:28 PM  
All kidding aside. But this probably cost Mittens the election. He's going to lose moderates entirely now. I'm wondering how he's going to walk back from this one.
 
2012-09-18 04:09:13 PM  

BunkyBrewman: Unbelievable. Some person (a Romney backer) takes a video of their candidate and now blames Carter's grandson for convincing them to post it online?

Take some farking responsibility you assclown. Carter's grandkid didn't record the video, you did.


It doesn't matter who recorded it. The identity of Deep Throat wasn't as important as the information he gave.

Of course, people who think James O'Keefe is a stellar example of journalism will say that this video doesn't mean anything, even though it's a presidential candidate writing off half the country.
 
2012-09-18 04:10:13 PM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: "I dont like criticism of my family," James Carter IV tells NBC News."

I like this kid. A lot. I always wondered why more politicians kids don't come out like this. Hell, I get irritated when people tell lies about Obama and I don't even know him. Imagining they are talking about my father would send me over the edge.


So do you feel the same outrage when people lie about members of the other party? Or is you outrage one sided?
 
2012-09-18 04:10:21 PM  
It's moderately interesting that an informal CNBC poll is running about 76% in agreement with Romney's comments. Link 

Yes, I know it's not scientific and I know that any group could now rally the troops and change it in minutes. But since CNBC isn't typically a bastion of conservative thought, and since I am reliably informed by farklibs that all tea partiers, conservatives, neo-cons, Republicans, and such get all of their news from Fox and never venture outside it, it's kind of amusing that the numbers are running the way they are.
 
2012-09-18 04:10:49 PM  
One side of the GOP's mouth screams "CUT TAXES!"

The other side shouts "HEY! WHY AREN'T THOSE PEOPLE PAYING TAXES?"
 
2012-09-18 04:11:15 PM  

pedobearapproved: vpb: The funny thing is that Romney has worked the tax system so much that he has to take the hit for not releasing his taxes, even though it was his own father who suggested that people who didn't were hiding something.

But it's OK for people like him, he is too special to pay taxes.

he's rich, you're jealous, we get it.


Obama's winning, you're grumpy, we get it.
 
2012-09-18 04:11:29 PM  

rufus-t-firefly: BunkyBrewman: Unbelievable. Some person (a Romney backer) takes a video of their candidate and now blames Carter's grandson for convincing them to post it online?

Take some farking responsibility you assclown. Carter's grandkid didn't record the video, you did.

It doesn't matter who recorded it. The identity of Deep Throat wasn't as important as the information he gave.

Of course, people who think James O'Keefe is a stellar example of journalism will say that this video doesn't mean anything, even though it's a presidential candidate writing off half the country.


Half the country has already written itself off by allowing themselves to be enslaved by the federal government. Romney did nothing but acknowledge it.
 
2012-09-18 04:11:38 PM  
This is why I'm cornfield
 
2012-09-18 04:12:10 PM  
What does it say when it cost $50,000 a plate for such events and the average person does not even make that much in a year?
 
2012-09-18 04:12:32 PM  

ringersol: dletter: "20k a year"

20? Throw in some kids and you could get to 50 without even getting creative with your taxes.
A family of four taking bog-standard deductions could earn 45k and still not pay Federal income tax.

http://squashed.tumblr.com/post/31757816989/mitt-romney-thinks-you-ne e d-to-take-responsibility-for


You didn't read very carefully.... I was talking about their total net taxation.... ie, even if they actually got money back from the government in other taxes like income tax, considering they are still paying sales tax on items, it probably comes out to a wash.
 
2012-09-18 04:13:59 PM  

mrlewish: What does it say when it cost $50,000 a plate for such events and the average person does not even make that much in a year?


They don't want the average person at those events, they want the "middle class" there, who according to Romney, make up to $250k a year. And obviously would be willing to part with 1/5 of their pretax yearly income to go to a Romney campaign event.
 
2012-09-18 04:14:06 PM  
Last night I found a peanut.
 
2012-09-18 04:15:03 PM  

mrlewish: What does it say when it cost $50,000 a plate for such events and the average person does not even make that much in a year?


cache.ohinternet.com
 
2012-09-18 04:16:57 PM  

Mr. Right: It's moderately interesting that an informal CNBC poll is running about 76% in agreement with Romney's comments. Link 

Yes, I know it's not scientific and I know that any group could now rally the troops and change it in minutes. But since CNBC isn't typically a bastion of conservative thought, and since I am reliably informed by farklibs that all tea partiers, conservatives, neo-cons, Republicans, and such get all of their news from Fox and never venture outside it, it's kind of amusing that the numbers are running the way they are.


I wonder how many of that 76% are members of the 47% that Romney derides in the video...

And CNBC is a business channel. Are you saying that liberals are involved in capitalist ventures?
 
2012-09-18 04:16:58 PM  

DjangoStonereaver: I guess the [img1.fark.net image 54x11] tag couldn't afford the per plate
fee.


I know I'll definitely be raising a glass to James Carter IV later tonight. :)

/all the Rmoney in the world can't buy Mittens an ounce of concern for the middle class and the poor.

Link
 
2012-09-18 04:17:43 PM  

mrlewish: What does it say when it cost $50,000 a plate for such events and the average person does not even make that much in a year?


That you're a deadbeat dependent looking for a Big Government Handout TM?
 
2012-09-18 04:18:24 PM  

mrlewish: What does it say when it cost $50,000 a plate for such events and the average person does not even make that much in a year?


It says they don't want average people at their event. Remember under Bush II when liberals embraced the "elite" monicker?
 
2012-09-18 04:19:59 PM  

Mr. Right: It's moderately interesting that an informal CNBC poll is running about 76% in agreement with Romney's comments. Link

Yes, I know it's not scientific and I know that any group could now rally the troops and change it in minutes.


Well, as long as you realize it's completely meaningless.
 
2012-09-18 04:20:01 PM  

JackieRabbit: All kidding aside. But this probably cost Mittens the election. He's going to lose moderates entirely now. I'm wondering how he's going to walk back from this one.


Hell this ain't even the worst thing on the tape. Here's what he said about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict which sounded, at least to me , like an epic failure of leadership

And I look at the Palestinians not wanting to see peace anyway, for political purposes, committed to the destruction and elimination of Israel, and these thorny issues, and I say, "There's just no way." And so what you do is you say, "You move things along the best way you can." You hope for some degree of stability, but you recognize that this is going to remain an unsolved problem. We live with that in China and Taiwan. All right, we have a potentially volatile situation but we sort of live with it, and we kick the ball down the field and hope that ultimately, somehow, something will happen and resolve it. We don't go to war to try and resolve it imminently.

 
2012-09-18 04:20:18 PM  
FTFA: Carter, 35, described himself as a "partisan Democrat" and said he is currently unemployed

/so that proves Romney's point, right?
 
2012-09-18 04:20:18 PM  

chiefsfaninkc: rufus-t-firefly: BunkyBrewman: Unbelievable. Some person (a Romney backer) takes a video of their candidate and now blames Carter's grandson for convincing them to post it online?

Take some farking responsibility you assclown. Carter's grandkid didn't record the video, you did.

It doesn't matter who recorded it. The identity of Deep Throat wasn't as important as the information he gave.

Of course, people who think James O'Keefe is a stellar example of journalism will say that this video doesn't mean anything, even though it's a presidential candidate writing off half the country.

Half the country has already written itself off by allowing themselves to be enslaved by the federal government. Romney did nothing but acknowledge it.


Its actually quite a bit less, excluding ppl on SS who contributed more than they spend.
 
2012-09-18 04:22:14 PM  
Well. Ther's fifty grand down the drain
 
2012-09-18 04:22:32 PM  

CygnusDarius: ITGreen: I have narcoterrorist family in Mexico and I'm tired of them getting dragged through the mud.

I'm a Mexican living in Mexico, so there.


i.imgur.com

Alright, you've made me post this once.

Don't make me do it again.
 
2012-09-18 04:25:30 PM  

rufus-t-firefly: Mr. Right: It's moderately interesting that an informal CNBC poll is running about 76% in agreement with Romney's comments. Link 

Yes, I know it's not scientific and I know that any group could now rally the troops and change it in minutes. But since CNBC isn't typically a bastion of conservative thought, and since I am reliably informed by farklibs that all tea partiers, conservatives, neo-cons, Republicans, and such get all of their news from Fox and never venture outside it, it's kind of amusing that the numbers are running the way they are.

I wonder how many of that 76% are members of the 47% that Romney derides in the video...

And CNBC is a business channel. Are you saying that liberals are involved in capitalist ventures?


I lol'd
 
2012-09-18 04:25:46 PM  
Someone point out where romney said anything that's wrong.

/not a Romney voter
//not an Obama voter
///Does not submit to groupthink from either side
 
2012-09-18 04:25:58 PM  

chiefsfaninkc: DROxINxTHExWIND: "I dont like criticism of my family," James Carter IV tells NBC News."

I like this kid. A lot. I always wondered why more politicians kids don't come out like this. Hell, I get irritated when people tell lies about Obama and I don't even know him. Imagining they are talking about my father would send me over the edge.

So do you feel the same outrage when people lie about members of the other party? Or is you outrage one sided?


It is one-sided and its also race based. I get angry only when Republicans lie and it is because the President is black. /sarcasm

/sarcasm
//Is that what you were looking for?
 
2012-09-18 04:27:20 PM  

rufus-t-firefly: Mr. Right: It's moderately interesting that an informal CNBC poll is running about 76% in agreement with Romney's comments. Link 

Yes, I know it's not scientific and I know that any group could now rally the troops and change it in minutes. But since CNBC isn't typically a bastion of conservative thought, and since I am reliably informed by farklibs that all tea partiers, conservatives, neo-cons, Republicans, and such get all of their news from Fox and never venture outside it, it's kind of amusing that the numbers are running the way they are.

I wonder how many of that 76% are members of the 47% that Romney derides in the video...

And CNBC is a business channel. Are you saying that liberals are involved in capitalist ventures?


and those 47% will never vote for Romney anyways. This video is just must todo about nothing. He's just saying what we're all thinking.
 
2012-09-18 04:27:46 PM  

xen0blue: Someone point out where romney said anything that's wrong.

/not a Romney voter
//not an Obama voter
///Does not submit to groupthink from either side


I highlighted where Romney ws wrong. He said all of the people on welfare would vote for Obama. Way to step outside of the box.
 
2012-09-18 04:29:15 PM  

spman: rufus-t-firefly: Mr. Right: It's moderately interesting that an informal CNBC poll is running about 76% in agreement with Romney's comments. Link 

Yes, I know it's not scientific and I know that any group could now rally the troops and change it in minutes. But since CNBC isn't typically a bastion of conservative thought, and since I am reliably informed by farklibs that all tea partiers, conservatives, neo-cons, Republicans, and such get all of their news from Fox and never venture outside it, it's kind of amusing that the numbers are running the way they are.

I wonder how many of that 76% are members of the 47% that Romney derides in the video...

And CNBC is a business channel. Are you saying that liberals are involved in capitalist ventures?

and those 47% will never vote for Romney anyways. This video is just must todo about nothing. He's just saying what we're all thinking.


You think only black people and poor people make up that 47%? Somebody help this guy out.
 
2012-09-18 04:29:45 PM  

JackieRabbit: All kidding aside. But this probably cost Mittens the election. He's going to lose moderates entirely now. I'm wondering how he's going to walk back from this one.


Phhfftt. He'll be driven back. By Oswaldo. As per usual.

/don't cry for me, Massachusetts.
 
2012-09-18 04:30:09 PM  

chiefsfaninkc: The moochers sure are butthurt by the truth.


How about them Chiefs!

/Bills fan.
 
2012-09-18 04:31:02 PM  

rufus-t-firefly: Are you saying that liberals are involved in capitalist ventures?


every chance they get. Liberals only believe profits are evil if someone else is getting them.  Al Gore, Michael Moore, Bill Clinton, George Soros, . . .
 
2012-09-18 04:31:30 PM  
All the discussion just goes to prove Romney's point. If you're polarized for him then you probably agree that the "47%" are "people who don't matter", people who are not entitled to the level of benefits they receive, or perhaps you are one of them and feel guilty about needing to take said benefits. If you are polarized against him then you see this as an insult to the entire working (and non-working) class, whom you identify as "peoplle who matter".

If you are up in the air on this then you are exactly the ten percent or so that he is talking about. If that is you, then go ahead, flip a coin. Because in the end we all get screwed either way.
 
2012-09-18 04:32:07 PM  

mrlewish: What does it say when it cost $50,000 a plate for such events and the average person does not even make that much in a year?


I'm wondering if it's really $50,000 per PLATE, as in, $50K for the salad, $50K for the antipasti, $50K for the entree, $50K for the dessert, $50K ok $25K for the little saucer that holds the coffee cup and the spoon. That's pretty good haul, don't you think? $225K for a 4-course meal?
 
2012-09-18 04:34:38 PM  
i1139.photobucket.com
 
2012-09-18 04:35:56 PM  
www.maniacworld.com
We don't need no stinking narcoterrorist.
 
2012-09-18 04:40:57 PM  

King Something: timujin: vpb: The funny thing is that Romney has worked the tax system so much that he has to take the hit for not releasing his taxes, even though it was his own father who suggested that people who didn't were hiding something.

But it's OK for people like him, he is too special to pay taxes.

Still wondering if anything is going to happen on the 28th...

What happens on the 28th? is that the filing deadline for presidential candidates?


Anonymous claims to have gotten copies of his tax returns and are blackmailing him, threatening to release them unless they get $1M. If they don't get it by the 28th, they're supposedly releasing them to the public. I don't put much credence in it, but I guess we'll find out for certain in ten days.
 
2012-09-18 04:45:26 PM  

JackieRabbit: All kidding aside. But this probably cost Mittens the election. He's going to lose moderates entirely now. I'm wondering how he's going to walk back from this one.


He hasn't lost my father's vote. Whose wife (his household) gets SS disability. One of his daughters (not me) gets SS disability and food stamps for his grandchild. They're reaching Medicare age. But they're the Right™ type of freeloaders, I guess.
 
2012-09-18 04:46:43 PM  

timujin: King Something: timujin: vpb: The funny thing is that Romney has worked the tax system so much that he has to take the hit for not releasing his taxes, even though it was his own father who suggested that people who didn't were hiding something.

But it's OK for people like him, he is too special to pay taxes.

Still wondering if anything is going to happen on the 28th...

What happens on the 28th? is that the filing deadline for presidential candidates?

Anonymous claims to have gotten copies of his tax returns and are blackmailing him, threatening to release them unless they get $1M. If they don't get it by the 28th, they're supposedly releasing them to the public. I don't put much credence in it, but I guess we'll find out for certain in ten days.


There would be many Lulz if they pulled that off.
 
2012-09-18 04:47:18 PM  

spman: rufus-t-firefly: Mr. Right: It's moderately interesting that an informal CNBC poll is running about 76% in agreement with Romney's comments. Link 

Yes, I know it's not scientific and I know that any group could now rally the troops and change it in minutes. But since CNBC isn't typically a bastion of conservative thought, and since I am reliably informed by farklibs that all tea partiers, conservatives, neo-cons, Republicans, and such get all of their news from Fox and never venture outside it, it's kind of amusing that the numbers are running the way they are.

I wonder how many of that 76% are members of the 47% that Romney derides in the video...

And CNBC is a business channel. Are you saying that liberals are involved in capitalist ventures?

and those 47% will never vote for Romney anyways. This video is just must todo about nothing. He's just saying what we're all thinking.


geezers make up like 10 of that 47 percent...
 
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