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(WTOP)   While liberal lemmings continue creaming themselves over a few off-the-cuff remarks by Mitt Romney, the Obama team, presumably having learned that teleprompters won't be allowed, is quietly lowering debate expectations   (wtop.com) divider line 210
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2012-09-18 12:38:02 PM

Bag of Hammers: Remember when everyone expected Palin to come out on stage during her debate with Biden with a seven foot long piece of toilet paper still clinging to her ass and a series of non-secitur bible quotes?

Well she didn't and she didn't say anything thing incredibly stupid so she won the debate.

All they're trying to do here is prevent another Palin/ Wimp Lo-type victory from Mitt.


I'm expecting a repeat of Palin-Biden, too. Obama will perform well and Mitt will regurgitate rehearsed talking points tnat may or may not be related to the moderator's question. The MSM will declare it a draw because Mitt didn't soil himself or call Obama "boy".
 
2012-09-18 12:38:35 PM
I'm generally reagarded as a pretty bright guy, and if standaradized test scores meant anything I could prove that. I say this only to note that I once spent an extended period of time talking to Obama before he was famous (at a fund-raiser when he was running 3rd in the IL Dem Senate primary)

the man is not merely smart, but SCARY smart. The only time I've had an experience like that talking to someone was back when I used to shoot the bull with an old roommate who had advanced degrees in computer science (AI) and Physics, (used to work for NSA , pretty sure in the mid 90's he was working on what we now know as Echelon) who was also a gourmet cook, director of Shakespeare plays at his local community theatre and marathon-runner (while juggling mind you) in his spare time
 
2012-09-18 12:39:56 PM

BunkoSquad: Since my expectation right now is that the debate will end with Mitt either crying, using the n-word, or taking a swing at the President, OK, I suppose I'll lower them a bit.


I know he wouldn't, but Romney uttering a racial slur and/or losing his temper on national television would be like Christmas for me. (Sad thing is, even if he did go so far as to use the n-word, 45% of the country would still vote for him.)
 
2012-09-18 12:40:43 PM

mpirooz: Watch Obama school the GOP at their own retreat and tell me that Obama needs teleprompters.


I had forgotten about that little extravaganza, that is a GREAT example of how he can just kick ass during a debate. There is proof out there that Obama REALLY doesn't like Rmoney...I think it is fair to say that Obama had a lot of respect for McCain, but Rmoney is just a complete douchebag...and I think that Obama is going to take the gloves off and really go after him, probably personally to a degree. My prediction is that Rmoney either drops an n-bomb, or goes off on how Obama is a "Lamanite", and sinned against god...basically something so over-the-top racist that it causes the internet to explode...
 
2012-09-18 12:42:34 PM

Mitt Romneys Tax Return: The MSM will declare it a draw because Mitt didn't soil himself or call Obama "boy".


This cracked me up, but ya know, that magic underwear has super-Kolob absorbency.
 
2012-09-18 12:42:52 PM
While liberal lemmings continue creaming themselves over a few off-the-cuff remarks by Mitt Romney

...conservatives are creaming themselves about what Obama might say two weeks from now.
 
2012-09-18 12:43:26 PM

LarryDan43: The Cleveland Browns are a very dangerous team loaded with talent. We expect a tough game Sunday.


LOL thanks.
 
2012-09-18 12:43:42 PM

Close2TheEdge: Here's another problem for Romney. Have you noticed how his voice speeds up rapidly when he is pressed on a question? It's a sure sign of insecurity. He is the type of kid who always had to prove he was smarter on you. ON EVERYTHING. He tries to get out so much that he comes off sounding misinformed, and well, like a docuhe.

He sorta got away with it in the Republican debates, but it will look awful compared to Obama's very in control demeanor.


He just hit the Turbo button.

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2012-09-18 12:44:29 PM

CPennypacker: What's the over/under on Mitt cancelling the second and third debates after he gets smacked down in the first one?

I think that maybe he's getting a little too confident having his own advisors and staff coddle him as "journalists" on FOX News.


Maybe he can pull a "I've temporarily suspended my campaign" due to some national catastrophe like McCain. I don't think Obama will loan him his weather machine, so he may have a hard time with this.
 
2012-09-18 12:47:31 PM
Heh... Whatever helps you sleep at night, Republicans.

Romney could barely debate the mental midgets he was running against in the Primaries, and you think it's Obama that's nervous about the debates?

Lol...OK.
 
2012-09-18 12:48:06 PM

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100/10
 
2012-09-18 12:49:23 PM
"A few off-the-cuff remarks"? Right, those notions would have been much better received by the general electorate had he "phrased them more elegantly."

/ palatable
 
2012-09-18 12:49:23 PM
FlashHarry:

LOL. yeah run with that, tardmitter. i seem to remember a couple of years ago when obama debated an entire group of republican lawmakers - without a teleprompter - and he handed them their collective asses.

The goal of the Obama team is to hold serve in the debates, and that will probably be enough. If he just holds his own, libs like you will be convinced he won huge and independents will call it a tie. Either way, Romney fails.

Im still trying to figure out the liberal anger all over Fark forums. Your guy is in the White House, is leading with independents and in the swing states with all voters, yet there is nothing but anger and hate and anger and death and hate and.....its like you guys want to burn alive any conservative. Or is the hate just for Romney? I cant tell.

KIng Something:
Since my expectation right now is that the debate will end with Mitt either crying, using the n-word, or taking a swing at the President, OK, I suppose I'll lower them a bit.

Since my expectation is one of those three happening or Mitt wetting and/or browning himself, should I lower mine as well?


So Romney is a pants shiatting, racist, angry crybaby pussy. Ok. Got it.
 
2012-09-18 12:51:38 PM
At the end of the day this election isn't about convincing anyone one way or the other, most people have made up thier minds, it's about 'jazzing up the base'.

I think the Obama minions are so over confident about his chances that it will work to thier undoing, infact the better Obama does in the debates the less likely his base will vote thinking that everyone else is already going to be doing that for them.

That's also the sad flaw with a large part of the Democrat party, they think they don't have because someone else will.
 
2012-09-18 12:53:23 PM
Ep-Ep-Epic TROLLING!!!!!!
 
2012-09-18 12:53:55 PM

CPennypacker: What's the over/under on Mitt cancelling the second and third debates after he gets smacked down in the first one?


During the Republican primary, Mitt bowed out of one of the debates, claiming that the people had enough information at that point in the process that they didn't need to hear from him again. Now, that was during the seemingly endless series of Republican debates, and I think there had been at least 10 of them before Romney bypassed one.

Here, Romney could try to claim, as he has been running for President since the first Republican debate in May 2011, that the public has enough information about him to make a third debate with Obama unnecessary.

Personally, I think that would just make him look even worse, as a President has to do the job everyday. But Mitt might try it.
 
2012-09-18 12:53:56 PM
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2012-09-18 12:54:01 PM

1nsanilicious: the Democrat party, they think they don't have because someone else will


This is very special, right here.
 
2012-09-18 12:54:52 PM

swaniefrmreddeer: So, the skull f*cking of R'moneys corpse is out? Obama will just have to settle for leaving Mittens a bloody, bruised mess whimpering on the stage.


I think Obama is going to have to settle for legitimately raping Romney.
 
2012-09-18 12:55:29 PM

Mr. Coffee Nerves: If Romney finishes the debate with his $3,500 pants unshat or without screaming "YOU FARKING PEASANT SCUM! I AM YOUR BETTER! YOU WILL BOW DOWN TO ME AS YOUR LORD AND MASTER!" then the Fark Independents will call it a "total victory that has November 6th in the bag."


They are gonna be kicking their Departure From Reality machine into overdrive on debate nights, this much is certain.
 
2012-09-18 12:56:42 PM

Wooly Bully: 1nsanilicious: the Democrat party, they think they don't have because someone else will

This is very special, right here.


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Pardon me, "They don't think they have to, because they think some one else will do it for them, but then expect to take part in the victory as if they did something"
 
2012-09-18 12:58:46 PM

1nsanilicious: At the end of the day this election isn't about convincing anyone one way or the other, most people have made up thier minds, it's about 'jazzing up the base'.

I think the Obama minions are so over confident about his chances that it will work to thier undoing, infact the better Obama does in the debates the less likely his base will vote thinking that everyone else is already going to be doing that for them.

That's also the sad flaw with a large part of the Democrat party, they think they don't have because someone else will.


Isn't that cute? You made a little man out of straw and made up some opinions for him, then you trounced him thoroughly! Good job, but now it's time for your juice and crackers and your nap.
 
2012-09-18 12:58:53 PM

dr_blasto: Headso: With all of Romney's out of touch actions and statements he has put himself in the Palin lane, where winning a debate against him is seen as a given but if he performs even OK it will be considered a victory.

FOX News will declare it a draw if Romney just barely avoids browning himself onstage and only says the N-word once.


If I wasn't broke I'd put money on someone commenting in the media within 24 hours of the debate that Rmoney 'put the president in his/their place' if not just in the comments here...
 
2012-09-18 01:00:35 PM
I have never, in my 30+ years of voting, watched a debate. I *will* watch at least one of these. I'm imagining rmoney doing the equivalent of choking on d*ck while Obama verbally nails him to an upside down burning cross. As mitt cries like a bullied second grader, he reaches for Obama's throat while gurgling through clenched teeth "I. WILL. TEACH. YOU. NOT TO. TALK. BACK. YOU. DARKIE!!"

Or something. Obama is going to own mitt. He will own mitt at any debate while drinking a home brew and ordering pizza.
 
2012-09-18 01:00:53 PM
FTA - "While Mitt Romney has done 20 debates in the last year, he has not done one in four years, so there certainly is a challenge in that regard,"



Yeah, it's a damn shame Obama didn't practice his debate techniques by holding a few real press conferences during his presidency. The guy has talked to only a handful of non-sycophants during his whole term in office.
 
2012-09-18 01:02:00 PM
Though dishonesty, but the blunt force of incompetence mostly, Mittens has completely reversed what should have been the roles in the debates. Obama should be the one on the defensive, with the economy and unemployment rate being what it is. Honestly, Obama should have more riding on the debates, but it really does look like Mittens' entire campaign is the one hanging on the line.

And, judging by the way they've handled the campaign so far, I bet no one at Romney HQ is even worried about it.
 
2012-09-18 01:05:17 PM

1nsanilicious: At the end of the day this election isn't about convincing anyone one way or the other, most people have made up thier minds, it's about 'jazzing up the base'.

I think the Obama minions are so over confident about his chances that it will work to thier undoing, infact the better Obama does in the debates the less likely his base will vote thinking that everyone else is already going to be doing that for them.

That's also the sad flaw with a large part of the Democrat party, they think they don't have because someone else will.


"In fact" is two words.

And it's "Democratic Party."

And your line of thinking would be really astute, if this were 1988.
 
2012-09-18 01:05:33 PM
At least he hasn't come out and said "My opponent is going to lie to you"

//Or has he.
 
2012-09-18 01:13:12 PM

Lando Lincoln: 1nsanilicious: At the end of the day this election isn't about convincing anyone one way or the other, most people have made up thier minds, it's about 'jazzing up the base'.

I think the Obama minions are so over confident about his chances that it will work to thier undoing, infact the better Obama does in the debates the less likely his base will vote thinking that everyone else is already going to be doing that for them.

That's also the sad flaw with a large part of the Democrat party, they think they don't have because someone else will.

"In fact" is two words.

And it's "Democratic Party."

And your line of thinking would be really astute, if this were 1988.


.

You can focus on grammar and spelling and I'll focus on the issues
 
2012-09-18 01:14:26 PM

Lando Lincoln: 1nsanilicious: At the end of the day this election isn't about convincing anyone one way or the other, most people have made up thier minds, it's about 'jazzing up the base'.

I think the Obama minions are so over confident about his chances that it will work to thier undoing, infact the better Obama does in the debates the less likely his base will vote thinking that everyone else is already going to be doing that for them.

That's also the sad flaw with a large part of the Democrat party, they think they don't have because someone else will.

"In fact" is two words.

And it's "Democratic Party."

And your line of thinking would be really astute, if this were 1988.



And "overconfident" is one word.
 
2012-09-18 01:14:42 PM

Imperialism: Romney's better than McCain.


That's really debatable. Pun intended.
 
2012-09-18 01:15:11 PM
I predict very boring debates. Romney is too stupid to ad-lib any good zingers (he'll try some obviously rehearsed ones that will fall flat), and Obama's debate record shows he has no real inclination to attack. The moderators, meanwhile, will cash their checks and ask softballs with no follow-up.
 
2012-09-18 01:15:46 PM
Remember that the media judged that Palin won her debate against Biden because she was expectected to poop in her own pants and throw recycled peanuts and corn kernels at the cameras. But in a stunning upset, the McCain campaign managed to keep her away from both corn and peanuts for 48 hours before the debate.

So yeah, I'd say that lowering expectations is really important component of shaping the critical post-debate analysis.

Of course, it helped that Palin winked and the whithered old men who own newspapers and television networks felt something funny in their pants for the first time in 20 years. But Obama isn't going to be able to pull that off.
 
2012-09-18 01:16:07 PM

Lord Dimwit: BunkoSquad: Since my expectation right now is that the debate will end with Mitt either crying, using the n-word, or taking a swing at the President, OK, I suppose I'll lower them a bit.

I know he wouldn't, but Romney uttering a racial slur and/or losing his temper on national television would be like Christmas for me. (Sad thing is, even if he did go so far as to use the n-word, 45% of the country would still vote for him.)


Back when he tried to run against Ted Kennedy for his senate seat, there was one debate where he really started to get shrill and nasty, and all Kennedy had to do was sit back and let him implode. I wish I could link to video of this, but it was basically the day Mitt lost the election.
 
2012-09-18 01:16:13 PM

1nsanilicious: You can focus on grammar and spelling and I'll focus on the issues


"Obama minions," "Democrat party." You're as interested in the issues as Romney is.

/Oh, and there's no such word as "Thier."
 
2012-09-18 01:17:43 PM

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What would be awesome is if the President answered every question with "As Governnor Romney once said..." and drop one of those quotes on him. The lulz, they would be endless.
 
2012-09-18 01:22:49 PM

1nsanilicious: You can focus on grammar and spelling and I'll focus on the issues


The issue is your observation is old and stale. It's not interesting at all. Everybody knows that the Democratic Party suffers from apathetic voters moreso than the Republican Party, because the Democratic Party base is geared towards younger people and the Republican Party is geared towards (really) older people. Old people love going out to vote, because they can get out of the house and go people-watch and bother polling place workers with boring stories and they can vote and feel like they still matter to this world. Younger people are self-centered and are busy and have jobs and they don't follow politics nearly as much as the old fearful people do.

But your concern for the apathetic Democratic voter is noted.
 
2012-09-18 01:25:26 PM
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2012-09-18 01:25:36 PM

1nsanilicious: Lando Lincoln: 1nsanilicious: At the end of the day this election isn't about convincing anyone one way or the other, most people have made up thier minds, it's about 'jazzing up the base'.

I think the Obama minions are so over confident about his chances that it will work to thier undoing, infact the better Obama does in the debates the less likely his base will vote thinking that everyone else is already going to be doing that for them.

That's also the sad flaw with a large part of the Democrat party, they think they don't have because someone else will.

"In fact" is two words.

And it's "Democratic Party."

And your line of thinking would be really astute, if this were 1988.

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You can focus on grammar and spelling and I'll focus on the issues


Your understanding of which is just as sloppy.
 
2012-09-18 01:25:52 PM

Fluorescent Testicle: 1nsanilicious: You can focus on grammar and spelling and I'll focus on the issues

"Obama minions," "Democrat party." You're as interested in the issues as Romney is.

/Oh, and there's no such word as "Thier."


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So your response to a casual observation is to attack it on the merits of its spelling and grammar? That pretty much sums up all the rest of the Democratic Handbook the rest of this election cycle.

Not to mention the rabid, perverse descriptions to be found on Fark. All I have to do is show the Fark politics tab to people that are on the fence and ask, "is this your party?".
 
2012-09-18 01:26:53 PM

Johnny_Whistle: Lord Dimwit: BunkoSquad: Since my expectation right now is that the debate will end with Mitt either crying, using the n-word, or taking a swing at the President, OK, I suppose I'll lower them a bit.

I know he wouldn't, but Romney uttering a racial slur and/or losing his temper on national television would be like Christmas for me. (Sad thing is, even if he did go so far as to use the n-word, 45% of the country would still vote for him.)

Back when he tried to run against Ted Kennedy for his senate seat, there was one debate where he really started to get shrill and nasty, and all Kennedy had to do was sit back and let him implode. I wish I could link to video of this, but it was basically the day Mitt lost the election.


I'd put good money on the chance Romney loses his cool at having to debate someone like Obama. At least Kennedy was from an equal, old money family.
 
2012-09-18 01:28:46 PM

Lando Lincoln: Imperialism: Romney's better than McCain.

That's really debatable. Pun intended.


It's not. McCain has his shortcomings, but he at least had the decency to try to correct that lady that called Obama a Muslim at one of his town halls. He didn't go far enough and should have said there is nothing wrong with being Muslim in tiself, but so far, Mittens hasn't even shown and inkling of this kind of courtesy.
 
2012-09-18 01:33:01 PM
Obama's oratorical skill is more in speeches than debates, so while I still expect Obama to win, I do not expect him to mop the floor with Romney.

The VP debates will be fun.

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2012-09-18 01:38:28 PM
LOL at Clint Eastwood's telemprompters.
 
2012-09-18 01:40:14 PM
This is what will happen if expectations get to High

Romney completely blunders "ehh we know he would big deal"
Romney does ok "wow maybe he is not the complete tool I thought he was"

Obama has a great debate "It was good but i dont think it could have been better"
Obama has an ok debate "WTF I can't believe he didn't pwn that fool what a loser"
 
2012-09-18 01:40:44 PM

pontechango: LOL at Clint Eastwood's telemprompters.


They were there for invisible Obama's benefit
 
2012-09-18 01:41:23 PM

pontechango: If you want to argue fantasy, politely, let's stop!


If you want to banana the frog, motorcycle.
 
2012-09-18 01:44:24 PM
It's difficult to prepare thoroughly for a real debate when you're from the "facts don't matter, vaginas can defend against rape pregnancy, the earth is only 6,000 years old, 47% of Obama voters are welfare queens, women who use birth control are whores" party.
 
2012-09-18 01:45:30 PM
I've never seen a teleprompter at a debate.
 
2012-09-18 01:47:21 PM

skullkrusher: pontechango: LOL at Clint Eastwood's telemprompters.

They were there for invisible Obama's benefit


No wonder Invisible Obama was able to out-debate The Man With No Brain... : )
 
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