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2012-09-18 12:34:55 PM

Bill McKay: skullkrusher: Bill McKay: I also went on a Carnival cruise once. Once.

It was a dirt-cheap 3-nighter out of Miami. Lots of the celtic-pattern tattoo crowd. I'm sure they'll appreciate the all-you-can drink.

if it weren't for your name, I'd say this post was O'Racistaigh

By "celtic-pattern tattoo crowd" I was referring to the douchebags of all nationality that sport the all-too-common tattoos. I could've said Chinese letter tattoo for the same effect.

p.s. I'm not really Irish - I just play one on the Internet.


oh, I know the type

/Irish
//celtic knot pattern on my wedding band
///ink free
 
2012-09-18 12:39:36 PM
I went on a cruise on my Honeymoon. It was fun.

I was taken back that I could order as many entrees as I wanted (really, I had a filet and two lobster tails for dinner one night), but I had to pay for a diet coke. The only free drinks were water and iced tea.

On the bright side, we were exceptionally lucky in table assignments. Three other couples - all on anniversary cruises ranging from 10 to 40 years married. They were also all rich and bought wine, champagne and drinks for us every night. I guess we we had sponsors - what with being young and relatively poor. We treated the cruise as a nice hotel whose front doors opened to a different island every day. Got lots of SCUBA diving in. Even found out in an area with massive surge that a person can actually vomit underwater (at about 50' down) and not drown. Damn motion sickness...
 
2012-09-18 12:45:04 PM

Lollipop165: It is so easy for the head of beverages to get a seriously cheap but good unknown brand and charge me $40 and I wouldn't know the difference. But $40 for a bottle of shiatty Beringer? $70 for Korbel? WTF?


They're simply offering what their target demographic understands. Korbel="decent Champagne" to most people (nevermind that it's from California), whereas offering something better and less expensive but less well-known (say, Sigura Viudas Cava from Spain) would result in lower sales. Offering something the average person's never heard of? Yeah, not likely. It's surprising how incredibly afraid people are of trying new wines.
 
2012-09-18 12:49:51 PM

Mayhem of the Black Underclass: to make up for the revenues lost when the hardcore alkies get on board and are consuming $100+/day of alcohol at cost. I don't think you can buy the rum that cheap anywhere.


you can get a handle (1.75L) of rotgut rum at wallyworld for $12. i can't possibly imagine even some of the worst drunks in the world drinking more than 2 of those a day. throw in a few bucks for mixers and it would be hard to lose money on the people who drink (cheap) liquor.
 
2012-09-18 12:50:06 PM

Tallman: Lollipop165: It is so easy for the head of beverages to get a seriously cheap but good unknown brand and charge me $40 and I wouldn't know the difference. But $40 for a bottle of shiatty Beringer? $70 for Korbel? WTF?

They're simply offering what their target demographic understands. Korbel="decent Champagne" to most people (nevermind that it's from California), whereas offering something better and less expensive but less well-known (say, Sigura Viudas Cava from Spain) would result in lower sales. Offering something the average person's never heard of? Yeah, not likely. It's surprising how incredibly afraid people are of trying new wines.


I think she's complaining about the price. Korbel is crap. It's even crappier at $70 a bottle
 
2012-09-18 12:53:08 PM

Mayhem of the Black Underclass: I remember the "daily special" running about $12 per glass, it was a mixed drink that was mostly rum, mind that it wasn't a lot of rum, because of all the ice. You're a captive audience. If I was a big drinker, I could see $50/day as a way to avoid a $1500 bar tab at the end of the trip. But Carnival must realize that this is a losing proposition for them, unless they really think that so many people are going to sign up for this plan, and then not use it, to make up for the revenues lost when the hardcore alkies get on board and are consuming $100+/day of alcohol at cost. I don't think you can buy the rum that cheap anywhere.


There's a local distillery here in Florida that makes rum that sells for $12 per 1.75L bottle. Yeah, it's only good for mixing, but at that price (note: that's retail. Wholesale it'll run you closer to $6, assuming you buy in quantity), a cruise line could make drinks with 6 oz of rum in them, charge $10 a pop, and gross $48 a bottle.

Trust me, they're making money on the $50-a-day drinks plan. People like me, who would likely only bring on a couple of bottles of wine and pay corkage, and may buy a drink or two a day the rest of the time, might think of buying the package. As noted above, $50 a day is 5 glasses of wine or mixed drinks, or about 10 Bud Lights (IIRC, last time we were on Carnival, Bud Light buckets were $25 for 5 bottles).

/I work in the alcohol industry.
//I have been on more cruises in the last 3 years than I care to count.
///Those two things might be related.
 
2012-09-18 01:02:59 PM

skullkrusher: I think she's complaining about the price. Korbel is crap. It's even crappier at $70 a bottle


I was complaining about everything: the choices and the price.

There were two options (we did the Platinum wine package - the highest level) for sparkling wine: Korbel and Rosa Regale. I kid you not, even compared to the non-sparkling wines, Korbel was the best they offered in terms of taste. After we finished the package we decided to go a-la carte to try the even pricier wines (in hopes we'd find something good) and all of their wines were awful.

I don't hate Korbel, but there's no excuse for THAT to be your best tasting wine on a cruise ship. And to charge $70+ is farking insane. Their Director of Beverages should be forced to walk the plank!
 
2012-09-18 01:03:00 PM

skullkrusher: I think she's complaining about the price. Korbel is crap. It's even crappier at $70 a bottle


I know it's crap. You know it's crap. Anyone who's ever had the chance to taste it alongside a halfway decent wine knows it's crap. But people still buy it because it's the brand they know, because they're afraid that something else will be more crap. I wager that if you offered a self-proclaimed Korbel drinker a bottle of a grower-maker Champagne (ie, not one of the big houses, but someone who owns the land, works the vines, and makes the wine in-house) for the same price (which'd be a ridiculously good deal -- the Champagne would cost at least 4x Korbel's costs) without a really good explanation of why the Champagne is better, they'd stick with the Korbel 75% of the time. Hell, with the explanation, I'd wager they stick with the Korbel about 50% of the time.

Same goes for Budweiser, or Miller Lite, or Coors, or anything Beringer makes below the county-appellation level, or basically anything made by Majestic (KJ, Murphy-goode, etc), or a good number of low-priced gin and vodka brands (Smirnoff, Gordons, etc). People buy them not because they're particularly good (as they're not), but because they're afraid of the alternative (for some weird reason, most people get scared of alcohol they're not familiar with... and most people are familiar with a tiny, tiny slice of all the alcohol out there).

/Why, yes, I do work in the alcohol industry. In sales.
 
2012-09-18 01:06:31 PM
Best choice I made was to use Carnival's service to purchase liquor. Yeah, it was $50/bottle or so, but well worth it. Ended up buying about $200 worth (Jack, Makers, Captain, Seagrams). And bringing some more on (shhhh...not supposed to do that). Then we bought the "all the soda you can drink" passes for $48 each. Then carried around plastic bottles filled with the alcohol and mixed it in with the sodas. Considering we paid about $350 or so and had enough to drink moderately for the week, we got off with a relative bargain.
 
2012-09-18 01:11:28 PM

Lollipop165: skullkrusher: I think she's complaining about the price. Korbel is crap. It's even crappier at $70 a bottle

I was complaining about everything: the choices and the price.

There were two options (we did the Platinum wine package - the highest level) for sparkling wine: Korbel and Rosa Regale. I kid you not, even compared to the non-sparkling wines, Korbel was the best they offered in terms of taste. After we finished the package we decided to go a-la carte to try the even pricier wines (in hopes we'd find something good) and all of their wines were awful.

I don't hate Korbel, but there's no excuse for THAT to be your best tasting wine on a cruise ship. And to charge $70+ is farking insane. Their Director of Beverages should be forced to walk the plank!


It's OK, I can hate Korbel enough for the both of us. There's a ton of great bubblies coming out of Spain that are cheaper and better, and plenty of Cremants from France that are a real step up for a tiny step up in price.

CSB: last time I was on RCC, we tried to order a bottle of Belle Glos Las Alturas (IIRC, $75-ish, so it wasn't a complete rip-off; retail on that is near $40). The waiter tried to pass off a bottle of Belle Glos Meiomi (retail $20-ish) to us; oddly enough, it wasn't on their wine list. There was no Alturas on the ship, it turned out. Our next two selections (both upper-end wines from well-known brands; La Crema RRV and Domaine Serene Evanstead, IIRC) were mysteriously "not on the ship either." Yep, they were trying to pass off low-end wines as much more expensive. Great bait-and-switch, unless your customer really knows their wines,

That F&B director should be left stranded on an island. /CSB.
 
2012-09-18 01:25:04 PM
I like my women passed out. They never complain when you stick it in the pooper.
 
2012-09-18 01:25:37 PM

Tallman: There's a ton of great bubblies coming out of Spain that are cheaper and better, and plenty of Cremants from France that are a real step up for a tiny step up in price.


Oh I don't disagree.

That's why I couldn't for the life of me understand why they wouldn't just get a really good but inexpensive unknown brand. I guess I understand the "mass market" appeal, but the fact of the matter is the mass market customer is becoming more knowlegdable about wines. I don't consider myself a connosieur by any means, but I know what a shiatty wine is and when I'm paying too much for it.

By offering these unknown brands, they could appeal to more high end cruisers, who ARE willing to shell out the big bucks for decent wines, the better rooms, the pricier expeditions, and so on. Offering a good unknown brand from a certain region, while you are cruising that certain region, not only makes the ship and company off as more knowledgable and cultured about the area you are cruising in, but a LOT more chic.

I had it out with the sommelier when he refused to upgrade our wine selection (long story) and basically told him I thought it was incredibly unprofessional of the line to charge this type of money for bodega wine, and to not even offer any decent alternatives. The table next to us overheard me complaining, and were pretty shocked. They had no idea they were drinking $7 bodega wine, which I guess explains why Royal Caribbean doesn't have a problem serving it.
 
2012-09-18 01:34:16 PM
stick with the moderately priced cavas or proseccos for your sparkling wine needs and you can't go wrong.
 
2012-09-18 01:45:56 PM
Good friend of mine took a Carnival cruise out of Miami. He described it thusly: "Imagine collecting up all the people you find in Wal Mart at 11:00 PM on a weeknight and sticking them on a ship with a really shiaty cheap all you can eat buffet restaurant on either end."

His bar tab was extravagant.
 
2012-09-18 01:49:45 PM

RazzleDazzle: Mugshot on page is more interesting than the article.
Booze, schmooze... you want me to rub one out for you or what?


pics 20 and 21 are mugshots panthers cheerleaders. rawr.
 
2012-09-18 01:52:45 PM
I stand corrected. Thanks to everyone who pointed out just how cheaply you can buy liquor.
 
2012-09-18 01:59:17 PM
Screw this, I'll just opt for an all-inclusive resort where you can actually get all the alcohol you want for free. Just bring your own cup.
 
2012-09-18 02:00:05 PM

frizzo: Good friend of mine took a Carnival cruise out of Miami. He described it thusly: "Imagine collecting up all the people you find in Wal Mart at 11:00 PM on a weeknight and sticking them on a ship with a really shiaty cheap all you can eat buffet restaurant on either end."

His bar tab was extravagant.


THIS

The cheese burger/hot dog bars were in full stampede all day, every day. It's was horrific. Hover-rounds, fat people and drooling idiots made up the majority of passengers. Many never even got off the boat at any of the stops. They stayed near the food lines like hogs getting their trough slopped.

$50 a day for all you can drink is a bargain when it can help one cope with being locked aboard a floating Wal-Mart at sea.

/CSB, but it needed to be said.
 
2012-09-18 04:03:40 PM

Mr. Coffee Nerves: Wait, I thought cruises were supposed to be "all inclusive, leave your wallet at home as long as you stay on board" kinds of things?


Room, board, and entertainment are included. The rest of the ship is a shopping mall, clubs, and bars. This is true of all cruise lines. Even Regent which includes shore excursions and house liquor will sell you upgraded excurions and top shelf liquor.

Meanwhile Celebrity Cruises has had all-you-can-drink packages for years now.
 
2012-09-19 03:10:59 PM
Celebrity sucks goat. Went on an AMS->St. Petersburg and back cruise, boat nearly capsized in the channel lock. Cruise divers go under boat, say we're farked. Dutch Navy divers go under boat, say that not only are you farked, but get off this boat before it leaves to Hamburg for dry-dock repair.

Add to that, we were easily 40 years younger than anyone else. Most especially off-putting were the other guests, mostly Eastern-Bloc money that thinks everything is due to them now. Never saw more disrespectful treatment of staff, and haven't since.

F'em. I cruise Carnival now just to goof off.
 
2012-09-19 07:30:12 PM

CruJones: Considering I drank about $1500 worth on my one and only cruise experience, this is a bargain. There is nothing else to do besides drink, and they charge you an arm and a leg.

/crappy Carnival cruise
//work trip, not my decision


when I went on a cruise you could buy cheap liquor in the duty free shop, they just asked that you only drink it in your room not in public areas and I still spent 300 dollars in 3 days.
 
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