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2012-09-18 10:19:46 AM
9 votes:
I thought a rage was the name for a group of Muslims. Like a prude of Christians, a flow of Taoists, or a bank of Jews.
2012-09-18 10:15:57 AM
8 votes:
So, let me get this right...an American uses his Constitutionally protected freedom of speech to make a youtube video that points out problems with how a great deal of the Middle East practices Islam, and despite numerous reports from on-ground sources (and the Libyan President) plainly describing how riots - that have cost Americans their lives - are ultimately unrelated to the video, but instead are a coordinated attack on American embassies, the White House asks Youtube to take down the video, the filmmaker gets taken in for questioning (not for a lame parole violation issue), and liberals like Hillary Clinton double-down on the notion that the video is to blame?

Remember all those riots and deaths when the piss-Christ thing was being trumpeted by the same crowd denouncing this film? Yeah, me neither.
2012-09-18 09:41:34 AM
5 votes:
"Lost your kid Jihad at the airport. Can't yell for him. - #MuslimRage"

now that's funny
2012-09-18 10:45:10 AM
4 votes:

trappedspirit: atomicmask: "But it seems there is no consensus on just what incites rage these days."

Only among the willfully blind and ignorant, to everyone else it is extremely clear what incites muslim rage these days. Criticizing allah, mohammed, or islam itself.

Wow look! A bunch of muslims wrote corny jokes about minor details of their religion! HA HA they are a fun loving group are they not? Wait none of them actually said it was alright to draw mohammed if you are a non-muslim or that we have freedom of speech.

So the creator of the universe told them that no one should make an image of mohammed and your complaint is that they don't say that it's ok for people to make an image of mohammed? I don't think ... there ... oh wtf

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I want them to say that non-muslims have that right, the same way jews think non-jews are alright to eat shellfish. I want them to admit that the rules of islam do not apply to everyone in the world, just to muslims.
2012-09-18 02:32:34 PM
3 votes:

modesto: buckler: modesto: Tech folks, is there any way I can show where I'm connecting from?

Oh forget it. Carry on being simple minded and afraid.

This will do it, if you're still interested. 

Thanks

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Good thin you are in a moderate islamic country...

"Egypt's general prosecutor on Tuesday issued arrest warrants for Florida Pastor Terry Jones and seven Coptic Christian Egyptians linked to an anti-Islam video on YouTube that sparked riots across the Middle East, The Associated Press is reporting.
The eight individuals, none of whom are believed to be in Egypt, are charged with harming national unity, insulting and publicly attacking Islam and spreading false information. They could face the death penalty."
Can you see the problem with your so called moderate peace loving muslims? All over a youtube video, thats just insane or retardation through years of inbreeding
2012-09-18 11:37:13 AM
3 votes:
modesto

>>> Those ARE normal muslims

Oh yeah? You spent a lot of time in a muslim country to form that conclusion?


Fark's islamologist logic:
1 obscure pastor burns a koran,
Reaction > "All chritians and jews are evil scum, deport (or kill) them."

100,000,000 muslims commit hundreds of acts of terrorism, violence, assist in stoning hangings and rapes
Reaction > "Isolated incident!!, but did you see what that one Christian/Jewish guy did?"
2012-09-18 11:32:27 AM
3 votes:

Private_Citizen: I read a good article that pointed out the media here focuses on the Muslim crazies, and ignores the moderates - even when those moderates are the majority.

It would be like Al Jazera saying the Westboro Baptist Church and the KKK spoke for all Americans. It may sell papers or drive pageviews - but it's deceptive, and it makes real dialog difficult.


Typical Westboro protest group turnout:

www.theintelligencer.net

Typical KKK rally turnout:

cubiyanqui.files.wordpress.com

Just the latest, weekly Muslim rage turnout:

static.ibnlive.in.com
2012-09-18 10:21:02 AM
3 votes:

AgentBang: I vote that we start a #ChristianRage tag on Twitter, see how well that floats in 'Merika.


Ha.

Had to pay taxes that went to healing the sick...#ChristianRage
2012-09-18 10:17:43 AM
3 votes:
I vote that we start a #ChristianRage tag on Twitter, see how well that floats in 'Merika.
2012-09-18 10:02:09 AM
3 votes:
Just saw this one and it made me laugh:

Ramadan in Iceland when days are 23 hours long. #muslimrage
2012-09-18 02:30:14 PM
2 votes:
People turned a funny thread into a gd political debate. #Farkrage
2012-09-18 12:36:19 PM
2 votes:
atomicmask

...Please see Turkey, a secular muslim state. Or, perhaps Malaysia or Indonesia...

Ok
_____________
Turkey

ISTANBUL - A woman in the studio audience stands up and, with the spotlight highlighting her covered head, announces to the crowd that her husband abuses her but that she doesn't know how to react and still be a good Muslim.
...
The host of this popular Turkish TV show, "Islam in Our Life," Professor Faruk Beser, is - from his trimmed mustache to his tailored suit - the image of a modern, successful Turkish man. But as he approaches the woman, his answer is far from progressive.

Looking her in the eye, Beser urges the woman to "carry this pain within you and keep living with your husband,"

--and--
On July 2, 1993, after Friday prayers in the local Sunni mosques, a mob of at least 15,000 Islamic fundamentalists spent eight hours besieging a cultural festival that had mainly attracted members of the Alevi community,
--and--
In 1923 when the creation of Turkish Republic was proclaimed, at that time there were 200,000 Jews living on its territory, including 100,000 in Istanbul alone... the subsequent pogroms and persecution triggered a mass Jewish emigration, that reduced the Jewish community by 10 times

...In the 1970s - 1980s anti-Semitic sentiments in Turkey have increased. Anti-Jewish thesises were included even in the programs of some political parties....

...March 2005 the attention of Western media towards Turkey has been drawn due to the fact that the book of Adolf Hitler "Mein Kampf" (Kavgam), as reported by the network of D&R, for the first two months of 2005 has taken the 4th place as the best-selling book in Turkey....

--and--
A June 2008 report by Turkey's Human Rights Directorate says that in Istanbul alone, there is one honour killing every week
--and--
Government figures released in February suggest murders of women increased 14-fold in seven years, from 66 in 2002, to 953 in the first seven months of 2009. In the past seven months, one rights organization has compiled more than 264 cases - nearly one per day - reported in the press in which a woman was killed by a family member, husband, ex-husband, or partner
_____________
Malaysia

...Twenty-nine members of an Islamic sect were charged with treason for looting two army camps last month in the northern state of Perak. The attackers made off with rocket launchers, more than 100 assault rifles, and 1,000 rounds of ammunition. They seized four hostages -- torturing and killing two...
--and--
Eleven Christian churches, a Sikh temple and a mosque have been attacked in violence
--and--
...Malaysia - The Metro Tabernacle Church, a storefront with metal shutters, sits gutted, black smoke stains on the concrete pillars bearing witness to the intense fire that destroyed the property.

The attacks on this and more than a dozen other houses of worship in January...

...This year Malaysia has seen the firebombing or vandalizing of 11 churches, two Muslim prayer halls, a mosque, the offices of the Catholic newspaper's attorneys and a Sikh temple.

"It's not just an issue of religious tolerance; after all, mainstream Malaysians are pretty tolerant people," said Norani Othman, a sociologist and founding member of SIS Forum Malaysia, a Muslim women's organization. "The silent majority has kept silent while the government keeps pandering to a minority of loudmouths."...

--and--
Tian Chua, an opposition politician with the People's Justice Party, says the government made the situation worse by urging Muslims to take to the street in protest against the court's decision.
* which resulted in violence and arson.
--and--
...So while a non-Muslim husband can be charged for raping his wife, a Muslim husband will only charged with "ill-treatment of wife" under the Syariah Family Enactment.
--and--
A MALAYSIAN state plans to recruit "spies" from the public to snoop on unmarried lovers and report them to Islamic religious authorities.
The Terengganu State Government plans to enlist the part-time spies to look out for un-Islamic behaviour

_____________
Indonesia

Global Campaign to Stop Killing and Stoning Women! (SKSW Campaign) join their allies in Indonesia in continuing to call for the repeal of a law (or 'qanun') passed by the Aceh Legislative Council (DPRD) on Monday 14 September 2009, that expands the range of violent punishments for alleged moral and sexual transgressions, including stoning to death for "adultery" and 100 lashes for homosexuality.
--and--
When a girl is taken - usually by her mother - to a free circumcision event held each spring in Bandung, Indonesia, she is handed over to a small group of women who, swiftly and yet with apparent affection, cut off a small piece of her genitals
--and--
...officers belonging to a special Shariah police unit stop women on the street who do not have their head scarves properly adjusted and often impose fines. In some instances, women have been publicly whipped for being caught in public with men who are not their husbands...
--and--
Caned for adultery

...thousands died in a long-running insurgency....

...Television footage showed first the man and then the woman, both dressed in white, given nine and seven strokes respectively with a rattan stick on a platform surrounded by a jeering crowd in the compound of the Kasik Putih mosque...



So tolerant. So peaceful.
2012-09-18 11:43:40 AM
2 votes:
i.imgur.com

"Have a quad. None of them work. #Genophrage"
2012-09-18 11:14:34 AM
2 votes:
I read a good article that pointed out the media here focuses on the Muslim crazies, and ignores the moderates - even when those moderates are the majority.

It would be like Al Jazera saying the Westboro Baptist Church and the KKK spoke for all Americans. It may sell papers or drive pageviews - but it's deceptive, and it makes real dialog difficult.
2012-09-18 11:02:30 AM
2 votes:
brawberrys

Also... if no one can draw Mohammed... how does anyone know when they've drawn Mohammed?!


You just blew my mind. What if he's represented by an ASCII character?

☻(PBUH)
2012-09-18 10:52:15 AM
2 votes:

lostcat:
- Language or communication directed to inciting, producing or urging the commission of a crime;
I've bolded the relevant point above, which is that saying something that results in the commission of a crime is not protected speech.

Producing a video with the sole intent to disturb shiat, possibly getting American citizens killed, is just willfully negligent, if not cri ...



That's cute. You think you're a lawyer. Let me just clear this up for you.

It's incitement to an imminent unlawful act. The paradigm is the crowd outside the court room with pitchforks. Absolutely nothing in that video was an incitement to an imminent unlawful act.

Hell you can even say "someone should go commit this crime." That isn't illegal, it's protected speech. You say it to an angry crowd pissed off about an acquittal and that's not protected speech.

Further, the first amendment is media specific. Speeches are different from videos. SCOTUS will never hold that a video is an incitement to an imminent unlawful act because it defies the word "imminent."

But it's cute you tried to play lawyer. Have some bacon.
2012-09-18 10:32:59 AM
2 votes:

AgentBang: I vote that we start a #ChristianRage tag on Twitter, see how well that floats in 'Merika.


This was the big news across the Interwebs yesterday. Fark is late to the dance.

There are plenty of #ChristianRage, #JewishRage, #HinduRage, and even #AtheistRage postings out there already.
2012-09-18 10:31:46 AM
2 votes:

AgentBang: I vote that we start a #ChristianRage tag on Twitter, see how well that floats in 'Merika.


Takes forever waiting for Hometown Buffet to refill its prime rib. Will result in even chintzier tip to the waitress. #ChristianRage
2012-09-18 10:31:15 AM
2 votes:
1.bp.blogspot.com

Wait?!?! Whos that hugging Jesus?!?

Why does noone ever remember this....
2012-09-18 10:21:21 AM
2 votes:
"But it seems there is no consensus on just what incites rage these days."

Only among the willfully blind and ignorant, to everyone else it is extremely clear what incites muslim rage these days. Criticizing allah, mohammed, or islam itself.

Wow look! A bunch of muslims wrote corny jokes about minor details of their religion! HA HA they are a fun loving group are they not? Wait none of them actually said it was alright to draw mohammed if you are a non-muslim or that we have freedom of speech.
gja [TotalFark]
2012-09-18 10:20:45 AM
2 votes:

JackieRabbit: We simply must come up with a perverse sex act to call "a Muslim Rage".


The beast with 2 Burkhas?
2012-09-18 10:15:47 AM
2 votes:
mypetjawa.mu.nu

THIS IS A #MUSLIMRAGE
2012-09-18 10:13:47 AM
2 votes:
Non-muslims exist. #muslimrage
2012-09-19 11:30:36 AM
1 votes:

lostcat: atomicmask: pute kisses like a man: people seem to use this term freedom of speech. wtf does it have to do with anything?

why on earth would anyone else give a flying fark about our constitutional protections? it's just the way this country does it, it's not some mandate from the law of the universe. no one else has to give a flying fark about freedom of speech, plus, it only protects you from government censorship... it doesn't protect you from being an ass and pissing people off

You have no concept about the law, or its intended purpose or meaning. It does not protect us from pissing people off, it protects us from violence because we pissed someone off. It is that whole "Civilized society" thing we got going for us. The law exists to protect the few from the many and the weak from the strong. Why on earth should we care if we offend people half way around the world?

The First Amendment protects individuals from laws passed that would restrict what we are allowed to say. It was intended more to let citizens speak out against the government, than to allow people to say whatever they want about any topic.

The freedom of speech also does not include:

- Speech that contains "fighting words" (insulting or abusive language that is likely to cause "an immediate violent response");
- Obscenities;
- Language or communication directed to inciting, producing or urging the commission of a crime;
- Defamation - words or communication that are false and untrue and are intended to injure the character and reputation of another person;
- Abusive, obscene or harassing telephone calls;
- Loud speech and loud noise meant by volume to disturb others or to create a clear and present danger of violence.


I've bolded the relevant point above, which is that saying something that results in the commission of a crime is not protected speech.

Producing a video with the sole intent to disturb shiat, possibly getting American citizens killed, is just willfully negligent, if not criminal, and the asshole responsible should be facing charges.


You're an idiot. That exception is narrowly confined to directly exhorting a specific person or group to commit a specific crime. You can say "Black people are subhuman." all day, and it's not illegal. You can't say "Black people are subhuman, kill one tonight." See the difference?

There's a disturbing temporal chauvinism in your implicit assumption that our generation alone and for all time, has achieved total consciousness.

Many of the ideals we hold most precious today were at one time offensive and ridiculous to every right, thinking person. Punishing people for the actions others take in response to their views isn't just unAmerican, it's dehumanizing.

It stems from the handwringing desire to soothe every hurt feeling and write away every stray trear. The only way to ensure no one ever gets their feelings hurt is to prevent everyone from expressing anything remotely controversial or challenging. A life of neutral stasis. fark that noise.
2012-09-18 05:11:57 PM
1 votes:

Stile4aly: liam76: Stile4aly: liam76: Stile4aly: I would disagree that there is no non-fundamentalist movement within Islam

What branch of Islam doesn't take the Koran as the direct word of God?

What branch of Christianity doesn't take the Bible as the inspired word of God.

Don't be dishonest.

I'm not intending to be dishonest, I don't see a signficant difference between the two. Additionally, Islam has no equivalent to papal infalliability.

Stile4aly: All religions take their holy texts as divine writ, why is Islam special in this case?

Deism?

Deism is a current religious movement?

There is the Catholic stance that the bible is the innerant word of god only on matters of faith (ie evolution, etc are ok).

In the 70's evangelicals got together in Chicago to declare the bible inerrant becasue of the fast growing christian belief that it was not.

Nevermind the whole split you mentioned earlier in this thread when I brought up fundamenatlists that arose from christians not looking at the bible as the direct word of God.

The Protestant split had nothing to do with Biblical innerrancy, it was about the centralized authority and infalliability of the Pope as well as the corruption of the Catholic Church particularly regarding the selling of indulgences.

Stile4aly: Likewise, you'll find cafeteria Muslims in the West (I'm one of them).

What major school of Islamic thought backs that belief?

None to my knowledge. That doesn't mean we don't exist.

Stile4aly: A pedo warlord... Get bent

He didn't bone a 9yr old? He didn't lead a war band?

Not a good student of your faith, are you?

Muhammad, after fleeing persecution in Mecca led a series of campaigns from Medina which included caravan raids against the Quraish tribe. Calling him a warlord suggests that his motive was personal wealth as opposed to a strategic goal of self defense of his followers and ultimately retaking Mecca.

Regarding Aisha, leaving aside the fact that child marriage for political purpose was commonp ...


You are a liar, but you are muslim, so its to be expected. Lets go over your lies, shall we?

1. Muhammed after fleeing persecution in mecca- He was banished from mecca for trying to forceably convert the polytheists. The entire city of mecca got together to speak to mohammed uncle about him, and said if Mohammed wanted to preach in Mecca, it was fine, but he is not to insult or try to force polytheists to his religion Mohammed refused and told them their gods were false (notice a trend already?) he was banished from mecca and started to raid peaceful traders and form a bandit army, the Quarish (a peaceful merchant class of people) was one of said tribes he persecuted and forced into slavery or islam. He was a farking warlord, stop trying to redefine terms to suit your goals. He was a bandit warlord at that, a thief and a rapist.

2. Regarding Aisha, leaving aside the fact that child marriage for political purpose was commonplace at the time and that the marriage could be declared invalid without consummation, there are arguments that she was older than is commonly believed at the time of her marriage and consummation. In the Hadith in question, Aisha states that she was 6 at the age of marriage and 9 at the age of consummation, however in other Hadith, Aisha reports witnessing events that she would not have been alive for if those ages were correct. Furthermore, in another Hadith, she uses a system of numerical substitution where she basically drops the "tens" column of her numbers. If she did the same then this would mean she was 16 when married and 19 when the marriage was consummated.

Funny that, how they mention that Aisha was playing with dolls at the age of consummating the marriage. as quoted from the Quran...



Narrated Aisha: The Prophet engaged me when I was a girl of six (years). We went to Medina and stayed at the home of Bani-al-Harith bin Khazraj. Then I got ill and my hair fell down. Later on my hair grew (again) and my mother, Um Ruman, came to me while I was playing in a swing with some of my girl friends. She called me, and I went to her, not knowing what she wanted to do to me. She caught me by the hand and made me stand at the door of the house. I was breathless then, and when my breathing became Allright, she took some water and rubbed my face and head with it. Then she took me into the house. There in the house I saw some Ansari women who said, "Best wishes and Allah's Blessing and a good luck." Then she entrusted me to them and they prepared me (for the marriage). Unexpectedly Allah's Apostle came to me in the forenoon and my mother handed me over to him, and at that time I was a girl of nine years of age. Volume 5, Book 58, Number 234

Narrated 'Aisha: I used to play with the dolls in the presence of the Prophet, and my girl friends also used to play with me. When Allah's Apostle used to enter (my dwelling place) they used to hide themselves, but the Prophet would call them to join and play with me. (The playing with the dolls and similar images is forbidden, but it was allowed for 'Aisha at that time, as she was a little girl, not yet reached the age of puberty.) (Fateh-al-Bari page 143, Vol.13) Volume 8, Book 73, Number 151


So, in conclusion, again, you are lair and your porphet was a pedophile bandit warlord. Deal with it.
2012-09-18 04:15:31 PM
1 votes:

Stile4aly: Steve McQueen's Motorcycle: Stile4aly: she uses a system of numerical substitution where she basically drops the "tens" column of her numbers. If she did the same then this would mean she was 16 when married and 19 when the marriage was consummated.

[incredulous Seth and Amy.gif]

Yes, I get it. My explanation is two sentences about a complex topic, so it sounds frivolous. The mathematical trick I mention does exist, though I don't have chapter and verse reference to it offhand and it's the less compelling argument anyway. Nevertheless, there is legitimate theological argument about Aisha's age at marriage and compelling arguments that she was in her mid to late teens when the marriage was consummated.


No, your explanation is a bad attempt at justifying pedophillia of teh prophet (piss be upon him)
2012-09-18 04:11:06 PM
1 votes:

Stile4aly: she uses a system of numerical substitution where she basically drops the "tens" column of her numbers. If she did the same then this would mean she was 16 when married and 19 when the marriage was consummated.


Wow! Thanks! I'm gonna remember that next time.

/yeah, she said she was eight, but I naturally assumed she used a system of numerical substitution where she basically drops the "tens" column of her numbers
2012-09-18 02:33:22 PM
1 votes:

modesto: liam76:
modesto is really dishing out a lot about his first hand knowledge of the ME without really explaining his knowledge.

I know a few things:


I was talking more along the lines of you claiming anyone who had a different opinion than yours had never been to the ME, and when people said they had insisting they must be military or oil as they didn't understand.


modesto: 1. The media portrayal of violence here is inaccurate and overblown. I live a few blocks from Tahrir and when there has been clashes over the last 1.5 years, I have had to adjust to this crazy duality where there is stone and molotov and tear gas throwing a few blocks away, but on my street (and all other points in this vast city) people are going about normal life: eating, shopping, smoking, drinking.


Over the lasy 1.5 years all othe rpoints int he city have been drinking?

I am going to go ahead and call BS on that.

modesto: 2. Most people couldn't give two shiats about this film, and many are angry and ashamed of the (again....VERY few) who made a big deal out of it, and how they knew it would play on TV and make "Egypt" look. Admittedly, my sample is not huge here. That attitude was certainly the consensus amongst my dozen or so local friends, and amplified ad nauseum on social media. Also, a cab driver passing by the clashes on my way home (after asking me about the roads in america, and saying what good people we are....you get that a lot) shook his head and said "stupid." I add this because taxi drivers are notoriously reliable bellwethers of all things political here for saying things that they think won't hurt their tips.


FTFY.

It is great that you have a dozen or so friends that think this whole thing is stupid, but the overwhelming majortiy of Egyptians support the death penatly for blasphemy.

modesto: 3. This stuff is complex. There are a lot more variables than christian vs. islam, arabs vs. americans. Also, being opposed to American foreign policy in the region does not equal OMG KILL THE INFIDELS!!!. These people have lived through six decades of authoritarian rule where you were tortured and disappeared if you stepped out of line. That could not have been the case without US support. That's not debatable; it's just true.


Yes because when the US leaves other dictators never step up, you never get oppressive theocracies in their places, and no dictator in the world has power without the US.

modesto: Say what you want about Camp David and the Arab Spring etc. etc. and whether the whole thing is/was worthwhile, but the 300,000 strong army of riot police that is still in place here to keep the people compliant? They might as well have "Made in the USA" stamped on their batons, because that's where the money and supplies come from. It should not come as a surprise that there is anti-american sentiment. We reap what we sow. Again, for 99.9999% of Egyptians, this is, if anything, a political issue, not a rationale for violence. Beyond that, there are huge economic issues and unemployment....trash everywhere.....water and electricity shortages....a whole lot of things that make the situation ripe for radicals to mobilize angry young men. This stuff happens for a reason. And the reason is not GOOD vs. EVIL or "they hate our freedoms" as perceived in the Bushian school of black and white.


So black and white views are bad, unless you want to blame a dictatorship on the US? Seriously?



modesto: But nuance and perspective do not make good TV, so instead the radicals get their pulpit. Stupid youtube video is fuel for an idiot sheikh to get a few people to go to the embassy and burn a flag. Flag burning gets played over and over again in America, so all muslims are fanatics.


No. Most muslims are fanatics because most mulsims support death penalty for blasphemy.
2012-09-18 02:31:44 PM
1 votes:
Tired of the pointless bickering and wants more funny. #STFUage
2012-09-18 02:22:21 PM
1 votes:

Canton: Yeah. It's hard to tell who's normal and who isn't sometimes... I remain somewhat more worried about paranoid white dudes concealing hand guns and persecution complexes...


That's mostly because you're doing it wrong.

/past actions are indicative of future behavior, and words of any sort are meaningless unless past actions have backed them up
//if you believe that words are the only thing that matter and past actions are prejudicial and should be forgotten, then that's what makes you a commie or something
2012-09-18 02:16:50 PM
1 votes:

liam76:
modesto is really dishing out a lot about his first hand knowledge of the ME without really explaining his knowledge.

 

I know a few things:

1. The media portrayal of violence here is inaccurate and overblown. I live a few blocks from Tahrir and when there has been clashes over the last 1.5 years, I have had to adjust to this crazy duality where there is stone and molotov and tear gas throwing a few blocks away, but on my street (and all other points in this vast city) people are going about normal life: eating, shopping, smoking, drinking. People do get hurt and I am not arguing that Egypt doesn't have a long way to go to stability, but the picture you see that make it look like Cairo is burning give a false impression. Fights are within a two or three block radius. This was the case last weekend. Which leads me to-

2. Most people couldn't give two shiats about this film, and many are angry and ashamed of the (again....VERY few) who made a big deal out of it, and how they knew it would play on TV and make "Egypt" look. Admittedly, my sample is not huge here. That attitude was certainly the consensus amongst my dozen or so local friends, and amplified ad nauseum on social media. Also, a cab driver passing by the clashes on my way home (after asking me about the roads in america, and saying what good people we are....you get that a lot) shook his head and said "stupid." I add this because taxi drivers are notoriously reliable bellwethers of all things political here. So am I tapped in to the pulse of Egypt and the Middle East? No. But I think the extremely small support that these protests could muster speaks volumes.

3. This stuff is complex. There are a lot more variables than christian vs. islam, arabs vs. americans. Also, being opposed to American foreign policy in the region does not equal OMG KILL THE INFIDELS!!!. These people have lived through six decades of authoritarian rule where you were tortured and disappeared if you stepped out of line. That could not have been the case without US support. That's not debatable; it's just true. Say what you want about Camp David and the Arab Spring etc. etc. and whether the whole thing is/was worthwhile, but the 300,000 strong army of riot police that is still in place here to keep the people compliant? They might as well have "Made in the USA" stamped on their batons, because that's where the money and supplies come from. It should not come as a surprise that there is anti-american sentiment. We reap what we sow. Again, for 99.9999% of Egyptians, this is, if anything, a political issue, not a rationale for violence. Beyond that, there are huge economic issues and unemployment....trash everywhere.....water and electricity shortages....a whole lot of things that make the situation ripe for radicals to mobilize angry young men. This stuff happens for a reason. And the reason is not GOOD vs. EVIL or "they hate our freedoms" as perceived in the Bushian school of black and white.

But nuance and perspective do not make good TV, so instead the radicals get their pulpit. Stupid youtube video is fuel for an idiot sheikh to get a few people to go to the embassy and burn a flag. Flag burning gets played over and over again in America, so all muslims are fanatics. A few wackos take that to heart and make a stupid youtube video or cartoon. Rinse, repeat. Entertainment!
2012-09-18 02:16:29 PM
1 votes:
oh lordy. how many times do I have to tell you that there are lots of Muslims in the U.S. already and the vast majority of them are behaving themselves like anybody else?

I would like to download into Islamophobes brains the image I have of getting out of a gay bar one night, in the primary gay district of a large city, and seeing taxis lined up down the street waiting to pick up drunk people -- people drunk on alcohol -- many of whom are gay. And many of the taxi drivers are Muslim.

Somehow this works without the cabbie blowing up his yellow Crown Vic (or whatever they're driving these days) in front of the gay strip joint.
2012-09-18 02:02:54 PM
1 votes:

Stile4aly: atomicmask: Remember kids, if someone finds evidence that your magical skewed view of muslims are wrong, and that the most "cultured" of muslim societies is still back assward and violent, you only need to divert the attention to christians or the united states! Don't rethink your position, change the subject!

You also forget the part that our government punishes individuals for domestic violence in the united states, in islamic nations the government looks the other way or condones it, because islam says a married woman is property and no such thing as rape exists between a husband a wife.

You miss my point completely. I do not for a moment pretend that violence or backwards notions do not exist in the Muslim world. They indeed exist at a greater per-capita level than in the United States. Where we differ is that you conclude that these problems exist because the people involved are Muslims and that there is something terrible about Islam which causes people to be violent and backwards. I conclude that there must be other causes because these same violent tendencies and backwards notions can be found in non-Muslim countries including the US. You casually denigrate over a billion people because of the ridiculous beliefs and deplorable actions of a handful and yet when it's pointed out that the same beliefs and actions exist all over the world you hand wave it away.

Let's put this in the simplest possible terms; it is impossible that a large percentage of Muslims actively support terrorism because if they did it would be the largest army of Earth and we couldn't have this pleasant conversation.


Islam is the problem, if you listen they will tell you so. Seeing it first hand and living arround it would give you a better perspective and understanding of how it truly is. You need to check out MEMRItv and see what they say to us in english then what they say when they think we are not listening. Maybe seek out a group of refugees that have lived under the yoke of islam and ask them to describe it.
2012-09-18 02:02:22 PM
1 votes:

Stile4aly: You miss my point completely. I do not for a moment pretend that violence or backwards notions do not exist in the Muslim world. They indeed exist at a greater per-capita level than in the United States. Where we differ is that you conclude that these problems exist because the people involved are Muslims and that there is something terrible about Islam which causes people to be violent and backwards. I conclude that there must be other causes because these same violent tendencies and backwards notions can be found in non-Muslim countries including the US.


No. The "same" beliefs and actions don't exist all over the world.

If it were they would all be the same religion.

Similiar actions happen, but they don't enjoy the same support.


You casually denigrate over a billion people because of the ridiculous beliefs and deplorable actions of a handful and yet when it's pointed out that the same beliefs and actions exist all over the world you hand wave it away.

It is far more than a handful.
2012-09-18 02:01:41 PM
1 votes:

atomicmask: That is sweet, would you be singing the same tune if you lived next door to a Klansmen?

Please stop basing your life and foreign policies off the "its a small world" ride at Disneyland.

Does it hurt to be so paranoid and afraid? It should.

Does it hurt that your best reply to what I say is to say that I am afraid?


Yes, it might bother me, because I tend to dislike specific individuals who denigrate and have an active and irrational fear and hatred of others.
2012-09-18 01:56:19 PM
1 votes:

Tatterdemalian: Canton: Yeah, but that's not going to happen. Normal people are boring and don't get the ratings, right?

They also don't tend to run around killing people, so survival doesn't depend on staying clear of normal people as much.

/likes to know which are normal people and which are murdering thugs
//apparently this makes me a paranoid Islamophobe


Yeah. It's hard to tell who's normal and who isn't sometimes. This is why I'm on the fence about concealed carry permits. Maybe that makes me an irrational anti-gun person, I don't know. But I will say this. Anecdotally, I have met quite a few openly Muslim people. I have taken classes with Muslims. (Michigan does in fact have a population outside of Dearborn.) I have eaten food prepared by Muslims. The Muslims I have met have been reasonable people who sometimes wear pretty head scarves.

I remain somewhat more worried about paranoid white dudes concealing hand guns and persecution complexes...

/Apparently that makes me a commie or something.
2012-09-18 01:51:20 PM
1 votes:

buckler: atomicmask: Have you ever bothered to ask them what they think about sharia law, or if they want to see it spread to your neighborhood? What about what they think about the way your wife dresses? Ask them if they think rape can happen between a husband and wife.

Yes, they are good sweet people because they bring you food.

No, I haven't asked them about those things, and they haven't asked those same questions of me; you see, we respect each others' privacy, and it's NONE OF MY GODDAMNED BUSINESS. I treat them the same way I treat anyone else, and they do the same. They are law-abiding, good people, and that's all I expect from anyone.


That is sweet, would you be singing the same tune if you lived next door to a Klansmen?

Please stop basing your life and foreign policies off the "its a small world" ride at Disneyland.
2012-09-18 01:45:42 PM
1 votes:

atomicmask: Remember kids, if someone finds evidence that your magical skewed view of muslims are wrong, and that the most "cultured" of muslim societies is still back assward and violent, you only need to divert the attention to christians or the united states! Don't rethink your position, change the subject!

You also forget the part that our government punishes individuals for domestic violence in the united states, in islamic nations the government looks the other way or condones it, because islam says a married woman is property and no such thing as rape exists between a husband a wife.


You miss my point completely. I do not for a moment pretend that violence or backwards notions do not exist in the Muslim world. They indeed exist at a greater per-capita level than in the United States. Where we differ is that you conclude that these problems exist because the people involved are Muslims and that there is something terrible about Islam which causes people to be violent and backwards. I conclude that there must be other causes because these same violent tendencies and backwards notions can be found in non-Muslim countries including the US. You casually denigrate over a billion people because of the ridiculous beliefs and deplorable actions of a handful and yet when it's pointed out that the same beliefs and actions exist all over the world you hand wave it away.

Let's put this in the simplest possible terms; it is impossible that a large percentage of Muslims actively support terrorism because if they did it would be the largest army of Earth and we couldn't have this pleasant conversation.
2012-09-18 01:45:22 PM
1 votes:

atomicmask: Have you ever bothered to ask them what they think about sharia law, or if they want to see it spread to your neighborhood? What about what they think about the way your wife dresses? Ask them if they think rape can happen between a husband and wife.

Yes, they are good sweet people because they bring you food.


No, I haven't asked them about those things, and they haven't asked those same questions of me; you see, we respect each others' privacy, and it's NONE OF MY GODDAMNED BUSINESS. I treat them the same way I treat anyone else, and they do the same. They are law-abiding, good people, and that's all I expect from anyone.
2012-09-18 01:30:12 PM
1 votes:

buckler: atomicmask: The sad thing is, these ARE the best examples of westernized and modern muslim nations. If people notice, when muslims immigrate they do not try to update themselves, they just try to tear down and create as equal of shiat hole as where ever they just left.

Yes, I know. I live in constant fear of my Somali Muslim neighbors. Why, just last week they brought over a plate of food for me, and they were full of smiles and kind words. I'm sure they're just lulling me into a false sense of security before coming over to behead me one night. Or the Muslim guy around the corner who I always see helping his neighbor fix up his car. He's probably planting bombs to use it in a suicide run.


Have you ever bothered to ask them what they think about sharia law, or if they want to see it spread to your neighborhood? What about what they think about the way your wife dresses? Ask them if they think rape can happen between a husband and wife.

Yes, they are good sweet people because they bring you food.
2012-09-18 01:26:02 PM
1 votes:

Stile4aly: OnlyM3: atomicmask

...Please see Turkey, a secular muslim state. Or, perhaps Malaysia or Indonesia...
Ok
_____________
Turkey

ISTANBUL - A woman in the studio audience stands up and, with the spotlight highlighting her covered head, announces to the crowd that her husband abuses her but that she doesn't know how to react and still be a good Muslim.
...
The host of this popular Turkish TV show, "Islam in Our Life," Professor Faruk Beser, is - from his trimmed mustache to his tailored suit - the image of a modern, successful Turkish man. But as he approaches the woman, his answer is far from progressive.

Looking her in the eye, Beser urges the woman to "carry this pain within you and keep living with your husband,"

Wow, that sounds just like the Baltimore judge who refused to grant a restraining order for a woman who was being beaten by her husband because he questioned her motives.

--and--
On July 2, 1993, after Friday prayers in the local Sunni mosques, a mob of at least 15,000 Islamic fundamentalists spent eight hours besieging a cultural festival that had mainly attracted members of the Alevi community,

Wow, that sounds just like the protests held at the "Ground Zero Mosque" or the EDL, or the protest in California where protestors called Muslims terrorists and told them to go home.

--and--
In 1923 when the creation of Turkish Republic was proclaimed, at that time there were 200,000 Jews living on its territory, including 100,000 in Istanbul alone... the subsequent pogroms and persecution triggered a mass Jewish emigration, that reduced the Jewish community by 10 times
..In the 1970s - 1980s anti-Semitic sentiments in Turkey have increased. Anti-Jewish thesises were included even in the programs of some political parties....

...March 2005 the attention of Western media towards Turkey has been drawn due to the fact that the book of Adolf Hitler "Mein Kampf" (Kavgam), as reported by the network of D&R, for the first two months of 2005 has taken the 4th place ...


Remember kids, if someone finds evidence that your magical skewed view of muslims are wrong, and that the most "cultured" of muslim societies is still back assward and violent, you only need to divert the attention to christians or the united states! Don't rethink your position, change the subject!

You also forget the part that our government punishes individuals for domestic violence in the united states, in islamic nations the government looks the other way or condones it, because islam says a married woman is property and no such thing as rape exists between a husband a wife.
2012-09-18 01:13:43 PM
1 votes:

LowbrowDeluxe: atomicmask: susansto-helit: atomicmask: susansto-helit: atomicmask: Agreed to an arranged marriage at 45, find out wife is 10, to old for me! #muslimrage

Decaf. Look into it.

/the Twitter jokes were funny, Frances

muslim pedophilia and arranged marriages, look into it.

You're talking to someone who has been a women's and children's rights activist for more than a decade. Historically, we're humorless types. When even I think you're shiatting all over an otherwise humorous thread, believe me, you're shiatting all over an otherwise humorous thread. 

/Frances

I am shiatting all over muslims, because i do not find the nazi`esque ideology funny, nor do I find the lame attempts at humor to mask an overall general evil in their culture funny. Don't like it, you can piss off.

Aren't you edgy and cool.


Who is trying to be Edgy, I am telling the truth. Sorry to ruin your PC happy we are the world everybody hold hands and kiss ass moment, but islam is a cancer.
2012-09-18 01:11:22 PM
1 votes:

Hickory-smoked: Snowflake Tubbybottom: Daughter was raped, had to honor kill her. It' really a shame. #muslimrage

I don't think you actually understand the joke.


I would go with:
Dislocated my shoulder stoning a rape victim. #muslimrage
2012-09-18 12:30:40 PM
1 votes:
Quick! The cameras are rolling! #MUSLIMRAGE
2012-09-18 12:23:32 PM
1 votes:
Now that my buzz is gone...

I think it's long past time we stopped judging Muslims or whoever by the worst of the people in their society. It would be like everybody judging America by the KKK.

We have to stop listening to the derp and start listening to the reasonable folks.
2012-09-18 12:21:36 PM
1 votes:
Men with whiskers 'neath their noses oughta kiss like Eskimoses. #BURMARAGE
2012-09-18 12:18:34 PM
1 votes:

lostcat: atomicmask: pute kisses like a man: people seem to use this term freedom of speech. wtf does it have to do with anything?

why on earth would anyone else give a flying fark about our constitutional protections? it's just the way this country does it, it's not some mandate from the law of the universe. no one else has to give a flying fark about freedom of speech, plus, it only protects you from government censorship... it doesn't protect you from being an ass and pissing people off

You have no concept about the law, or its intended purpose or meaning. It does not protect us from pissing people off, it protects us from violence because we pissed someone off. It is that whole "Civilized society" thing we got going for us. The law exists to protect the few from the many and the weak from the strong. Why on earth should we care if we offend people half way around the world?

The First Amendment protects individuals from laws passed that would restrict what we are allowed to say. It was intended more to let citizens speak out against the government, than to allow people to say whatever they want about any topic.

The freedom of speech also does not include:

- Speech that contains "fighting words" (insulting or abusive language that is likely to cause "an immediate violent response");
- Obscenities;
- Language or communication directed to inciting, producing or urging the commission of a crime;
- Defamation - words or communication that are false and untrue and are intended to injure the character and reputation of another person;
- Abusive, obscene or harassing telephone calls;
- Loud speech and loud noise meant by volume to disturb others or to create a clear and present danger of violence.


I've bolded the relevant point above, which is that saying something that results in the commission of a crime is not protected speech.

Producing a video with the sole intent to disturb shiat, possibly getting American citizens killed, is just willfully negligent, if not cri ...


Seconded. Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes presided over the famous Schenck "yelling fire in a crowded theater" case, and he was famously conservative. If someone just hoping to see commotion could get jail for starting a fatal stampede, then what of a fanatic hoping to start a religious war?
2012-09-18 12:16:32 PM
1 votes:

atomicmask: You are either willfully stupid, or just cursed with it. Yes, it is alright, especially when said civilians are willing human shields for said militants. Especially when said civilians support the militants. Now you can argue all you like, but ample proof exists that they DO support and endorse the extremists, because the Imams do.

From a gallop pole on the issue

"How much fervor: Gallup polled over 50,000 Muslims across 10 countries and found that, if one defines radicals as those who deemed the 9/11 attacks "completely justified," their number constitutes about 7 percent of the total population. But if one includes Muslims who considered the attacks "largely justified," their ranks jump to 13.5 percent. Adding those who deemed the attacks "somewhat justified" boosts the number of radicals to 36.6 percent."

Now it is safe to assume that quite a few muslims did not tell the truth, perhaps fearing persecution, so I would gage that somewhat justified number at way, way higher.


Why not just include all the Muslims who don't consider the attacks "absolutely unjustified" because they're either with us or against us, right? That way you can get the number north of 50% instead of just imagining that it's "way, way higher" because of your keen Spidey Muzzie sense.

So, congratulations; you've proved some Muslims, perhaps even many Muslims believe stupid things. These people live in third world conditions where their state controlled media uses the US and Israel as a scapegoat for their problems. When these societies throw off the dictators that have oppressed them for 70 years you aren't patient about their first tentative steps towards democracy where mistakes will surely be made, instead you conclude they are incapable of civilization. Your answer to this isn't to try and open up those societies to modernization, but to write them off as hopeless savages. 

PS: Next time you want to pass off Daniel Pipes thinking as your own, you might want to change a few words so that a 5 second google search doesn't reveal your plagarism.
2012-09-18 12:13:21 PM
1 votes:
Joe Blowme

I can't help notice you haven't answered modesto's question; Were in the region as a military contractor, oil guy, or for some other reason? It seems like the answer to that would be highly relevant to the kind of relationship you would have with the locals.
2012-09-18 12:06:11 PM
1 votes:

Steve McQueen's Motorcycle: Private_Citizen: I read a good article that pointed out the media here focuses on the Muslim crazies, and ignores the moderates - even when those moderates are the majority.

It would be like Al Jazera saying the Westboro Baptist Church and the KKK spoke for all Americans. It may sell papers or drive pageviews - but it's deceptive, and it makes real dialog difficult.

Typical Westboro protest group turnout:

[www.theintelligencer.net image 410x308]

Typical KKK rally turnout:

[cubiyanqui.files.wordpress.com image 300x238]

Just the latest, weekly Muslim rage turnout:

[static.ibnlive.in.com image 630x420]


i suppose the facts that westboro baptist is a tiny church and the kkk faded into irrelevancy several decades ago, while there are about a billion and a half muslims in this world, would have something to do with that seemingly lopsided turnout
2012-09-18 11:58:19 AM
1 votes:

modesto: It's funny how people from a country with incredibly high rates of violence and incarceration, and something like 200 bases in 80 countries, can be so quick to condemn others as violent radicals. Carry on tho.


Yep because we are happy about the incredibly high rates of violence here, and never criticize it. You obviously have a a very sharp mind. :)
2012-09-18 11:52:01 AM
1 votes:

Steve McQueen's Motorcycle: Private_Citizen: I read a good article that pointed out the media here focuses on the Muslim crazies, and ignores the moderates - even when those moderates are the majority.

It would be like Al Jazera saying the Westboro Baptist Church and the KKK spoke for all Americans. It may sell papers or drive pageviews - but it's deceptive, and it makes real dialog difficult.

Typical Westboro protest group turnout:

[www.theintelligencer.net image 410x308]

Typical KKK rally turnout:

[cubiyanqui.files.wordpress.com image 300x238]

Just the latest, weekly Muslim rage turnout:

[static.ibnlive.in.com image 630x420]


Wow, those people in the first pic are awfully worked up over the price of Busch 24 packs.
2012-09-18 11:45:14 AM
1 votes:

trippdogg: NiceBeaver: So, let me get this right...an American uses his Constitutionally protected freedom of speech to make a youtube video that points out problems with how a great deal of the Middle East practices Islam, and despite numerous reports from on-ground sources (and the Libyan President) plainly describing how riots - that have cost Americans their lives - are ultimately unrelated to the video, but instead are a coordinated attack on American embassies, the White House asks Youtube to take down the video, the filmmaker gets taken in for questioning (not for a lame parole violation issue), and liberals like Hillary Clinton double-down on the notion that the video is to blame?

Remember all those riots and deaths when the piss-Christ thing was being trumpeted by the same crowd denouncing this film? Yeah, me neither.

You must be the shiat at a party.


I remember the butthurt here when The Last Temptation of Christ was released in 1988.
Not much difference, EXCEPT for the violence.
2012-09-18 11:41:35 AM
1 votes:

atomicmask: trappedspirit: atomicmask: I want them to say that non-muslims have that right, the same way jews think non-jews are alright to eat shellfish. I want them to admit that the rules of islam do not apply to everyone in the world, just to muslims.

How about we focus on getting them to stop killing people over it. I couldn't care less about whether or not they feel that I am going to be judged by God according to the law as they know it, regardless of my beliefs. Similarly I couldn't give two shiats that Jews think it's alright for me to eat what I want. Muslims might think that there are certain laws that apply to everyone or not. I don't care. Just don't be enforcing that tribal schwankhalla.

That is the rub, that is exactly why I want them to admit what I said. If they can admit not everyone follows islamic law, not everyone is under sharia, not everyone is under the commandments of mohammed, we can get them to stop killing. But I doubt they ever will, hell, most of the time you cant even find a moderate muslim willing to admit that jews deserve to live.


That is the fine thing about "belief".
Trumps all reality.
2012-09-18 11:40:28 AM
1 votes:

modesto: atomicmask: modesto: Joe Blowme: modesto: Joe Blowme: modesto: Joe Blowme: modesto: Joe Blowme: Canton: Rik01: That's kind of funny. Though it would be nice if the Media displayed more such normal Muslims than the riled up, insane ones they like to splash all over the news.

Yeah, but that's not going to happen. Normal people are boring and don't get the ratings, right?

Those ARE normal muslims

Oh yeah? You spent a lot of time in a muslim country to form that conclusion?

Yes i have, how about you?

Writing from Cairo. You're lying.

Writting from America, your lying.

/saudi 91-94
//Kuwait 97-2000
///Blow it out your ass dhimmi

Oh yeah? Military, or oil? Just wondering which kind of compound you lived on that stopped you from interacting with locals.

I apologize if you're not lying, but if so, you must have been sequestered to have such a ridiculously black and white view of a complex society.

I could say that the guys running drones bombing weddings represent america, but that would be a bit of an oversimplificaiton, no?

You could say that, but then you would just be showing how retarded you are for trying to equate the two.

Our mass murder is....righteous and excusable? Explain why.

Let me explain a bit about islamic fighting tactics...

they like to hide combatants in schools, mosques, weddings, crowds of people, and fight from these positions. They abuse our notions of right and wrong, they use the fact that we value life to their advantage. Hezbollah did it against israel by firing mortars from schools, insurgents do it in iraq and Afghanistan by firing from Mosques and weddings...

I think it is perfectly alright to drop a bomb on a wedding if a group of islamic fundamentalists are fighting from that position, and the wedding goers do not have enough common sense to run for the farking hills.

So the death of 4 representatives of our actual government (may they RIP) at the hands of militants is enough to justify a blanket condemnation of the muslim wo ...


You are either willfully stupid, or just cursed with it. Yes, it is alright, especially when said civilians are willing human shields for said militants. Especially when said civilians support the militants. Now you can argue all you like, but ample proof exists that they DO support and endorse the extremists, because the Imams do.

From a gallop pole on the issue

"How much fervor: Gallup polled over 50,000 Muslims across 10 countries and found that, if one defines radicals as those who deemed the 9/11 attacks "completely justified," their number constitutes about 7 percent of the total population. But if one includes Muslims who considered the attacks "largely justified," their ranks jump to 13.5 percent. Adding those who deemed the attacks "somewhat justified" boosts the number of radicals to 36.6 percent."

Now it is safe to assume that quite a few muslims did not tell the truth, perhaps fearing persecution, so I would gage that somewhat justified number at way, way higher.
2012-09-18 11:34:01 AM
1 votes:

CheekyMonkey: 'Pedophilia' is sufficiently specific already. No need to further divide it into 'Muslim pedophilia', 'Catholic pedophilia' or 'BSA pedophilia'.


Unless it's a thread about 'Catholic pedophilia' or 'BSA pedophilia'. Then it's okay. :)
2012-09-18 11:24:02 AM
1 votes:
I'm going to break. I'm going to break my. I'm going to break my #RUSTYCAGE
2012-09-18 11:13:13 AM
1 votes:

atomicmask: I want them to say that non-muslims have that right, the same way jews think non-jews are alright to eat shellfish. I want them to admit that the rules of islam do not apply to everyone in the world, just to muslims.


This is something Christians need a little work on, too. I'm not offended if you want to silently judge my actions and laugh at me because you're so sure I'm going to hell, and I won't tell you to stop believing in things you want to believe, but please don't try to make your faith into law which I have to follow.
2012-09-18 11:09:36 AM
1 votes:
You stutter while asking for a lo-lo-lo-lo-lo-lo-lottery ticket and are put on terrorist watch. #muslimrage

hahahaha.
2012-09-18 11:08:03 AM
1 votes:

modesto: Joe Blowme: modesto: Joe Blowme: modesto: Joe Blowme: Canton: Rik01: That's kind of funny. Though it would be nice if the Media displayed more such normal Muslims than the riled up, insane ones they like to splash all over the news.

Yeah, but that's not going to happen. Normal people are boring and don't get the ratings, right?

Those ARE normal muslims

Oh yeah? You spent a lot of time in a muslim country to form that conclusion?

Yes i have, how about you?

Writing from Cairo. You're lying.

Writting from America, your lying.

/saudi 91-94
//Kuwait 97-2000
///Blow it out your ass dhimmi

Oh yeah? Military, or oil? Just wondering which kind of compound you lived on that stopped you from interacting with locals.

I apologize if you're not lying, but if so, you must have been sequestered to have such a ridiculously black and white view of a complex society.

I could say that the guys running drones bombing weddings represent america, but that would be a bit of an oversimplificaiton, no?


You could say that, but then you would just be showing how retarded you are for trying to equate the two.
2012-09-18 11:07:52 AM
1 votes:
During gang-rape of blonde reporter, some of Abdul's jizz got on my leg #MUSLIMRAGE

/sorry. too far I know.
2012-09-18 11:06:42 AM
1 votes:
Nothing new is going on. #AVERAGE
2012-09-18 11:04:57 AM
1 votes:

atomicmask: modesto: Joe Blowme: modesto: Joe Blowme: Canton: Rik01: That's kind of funny. Though it would be nice if the Media displayed more such normal Muslims than the riled up, insane ones they like to splash all over the news.

Yeah, but that's not going to happen. Normal people are boring and don't get the ratings, right?

Those ARE normal muslims

Oh yeah? You spent a lot of time in a muslim country to form that conclusion?

Yes i have, how about you?

Writing from Cairo. You're lying.

Link

You are not in egypt, and he is not lying.


actually, yeah, he is lying. If you think the billion or so muslims on the planet are all like the radical asshole Arab flavor, youre, well, kinda retarded. simple as that. This is a logical conclusion to come to if you live in the US, because theres nothing but this sorta stuff depicted in the media, ut you are, indeed, completely, and quantifiably wrong.

Please see Turkey, a secular muslim state. Or, perhaps Malaysia or Indonesia for further example of Islam can be meshed with modernity and be moderate. The Arab world is backwards and f'd up. So say "the arab world", and youre a little closer to being accurate.

These "muslim rage" islamicists are a buncha asshats and an awful lot of them need to get their wish and get killed in the jihand theyre so looking fwd to. But dude... math is your friend. The numbers are just not holding up your and JoeBlow me's assessment of islam's followers, anecdotal evidence to the contrary notwithstanding.
2012-09-18 10:58:40 AM
1 votes:

susansto-helit: atomicmask: susansto-helit: atomicmask: Agreed to an arranged marriage at 45, find out wife is 10, to old for me! #muslimrage

Decaf. Look into it.

/the Twitter jokes were funny, Frances

muslim pedophilia and arranged marriages, look into it.

You're talking to someone who has been a women's and children's rights activist for more than a decade. Historically, we're humorless types. When even I think you're shiatting all over an otherwise humorous thread, believe me, you're shiatting all over an otherwise humorous thread. 

/Frances


I am shiatting all over muslims, because i do not find the nazi`esque ideology funny, nor do I find the lame attempts at humor to mask an overall general evil in their culture funny. Don't like it, you can piss off.
2012-09-18 10:57:00 AM
1 votes:

modesto: Joe Blowme: modesto: Joe Blowme: Canton: Rik01: That's kind of funny. Though it would be nice if the Media displayed more such normal Muslims than the riled up, insane ones they like to splash all over the news.

Yeah, but that's not going to happen. Normal people are boring and don't get the ratings, right?

Those ARE normal muslims

Oh yeah? You spent a lot of time in a muslim country to form that conclusion?

Yes i have, how about you?

Writing from Cairo. You're lying.


Link

You are not in egypt, and he is not lying.
2012-09-18 10:56:44 AM
1 votes:

atomicmask: susansto-helit: atomicmask: Agreed to an arranged marriage at 45, find out wife is 10, to old for me! #muslimrage

Decaf. Look into it.

/the Twitter jokes were funny, Frances

muslim pedophilia and arranged marriages, look into it.


You're talking to someone who has been a women's and children's rights activist for more than a decade. Historically, we're humorless types. When even I think you're shiatting all over an otherwise humorous thread, believe me, you're shiatting all over an otherwise humorous thread. 

/Frances
2012-09-18 10:55:37 AM
1 votes:

Publikwerks: Daughter is dating a Goy #JEWISHRAGE


As a goy dating a Jewish girl, I like the cut of your jib.

/I also like the cut of your hair
2012-09-18 10:55:32 AM
1 votes:

Joe Blowme: modesto: Joe Blowme: modesto: Joe Blowme: Canton: Rik01: That's kind of funny. Though it would be nice if the Media displayed more such normal Muslims than the riled up, insane ones they like to splash all over the news.

Yeah, but that's not going to happen. Normal people are boring and don't get the ratings, right?

Those ARE normal muslims

Oh yeah? You spent a lot of time in a muslim country to form that conclusion?

Yes i have, how about you?

Writing from Cairo. You're lying.

Writting from America, your lying.

/saudi 91-94
//Kuwait 97-2000
///Blow it out your ass dhimmi


Oh yeah? Military, or oil? Just wondering which kind of compound you lived on that stopped you from interacting with locals.

I apologize if you're not lying, but if so, you must have been sequestered to have such a ridiculously black and white view of a complex society.

I could say that the guys running drones bombing weddings represent america, but that would be a bit of an oversimplificaiton, no?
2012-09-18 10:54:26 AM
1 votes:

lostcat: atomicmask: pute kisses like a man: people seem to use this term freedom of speech. wtf does it have to do with anything?

why on earth would anyone else give a flying fark about our constitutional protections? it's just the way this country does it, it's not some mandate from the law of the universe. no one else has to give a flying fark about freedom of speech, plus, it only protects you from government censorship... it doesn't protect you from being an ass and pissing people off

You have no concept about the law, or its intended purpose or meaning. It does not protect us from pissing people off, it protects us from violence because we pissed someone off. It is that whole "Civilized society" thing we got going for us. The law exists to protect the few from the many and the weak from the strong. Why on earth should we care if we offend people half way around the world?

The First Amendment protects individuals from laws passed that would restrict what we are allowed to say. It was intended more to let citizens speak out against the government, than to allow people to say whatever they want about any topic.

The freedom of speech also does not include:

- Speech that contains "fighting words" (insulting or abusive language that is likely to cause "an immediate violent response");
- Obscenities;
- Language or communication directed to inciting, producing or urging the commission of a crime;
- Defamation - words or communication that are false and untrue and are intended to injure the character and reputation of another person;
- Abusive, obscene or harassing telephone calls;
- Loud speech and loud noise meant by volume to disturb others or to create a clear and present danger of violence.


I've bolded the relevant point above, which is that saying something that results in the commission of a crime is not protected speech.

Producing a video with the sole intent to disturb shiat, possibly getting American citizens killed, is just willfully negligent, if not criminal, and the asshole responsible should be facing charges.


Derp. Thanks goodness we live in a country where opinions such as yours are dismissed. China and the Ukraine would like to subscribe to your newsletter, though.
2012-09-18 10:51:57 AM
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modesto: Joe Blowme: modesto: Joe Blowme: Canton: Rik01: That's kind of funny. Though it would be nice if the Media displayed more such normal Muslims than the riled up, insane ones they like to splash all over the news.

Yeah, but that's not going to happen. Normal people are boring and don't get the ratings, right?

Those ARE normal muslims

Oh yeah? You spent a lot of time in a muslim country to form that conclusion?

Yes i have, how about you?

Writing from Cairo. You're lying.


Writting from America, your lying.

/saudi 91-94
//Kuwait 97-2000
///Blow it out your ass dhimmi
2012-09-18 10:51:11 AM
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  2012-09-18 10:26:20 AM  
That's kind of funny. Though it would be nice if the Media displayed more such normal Muslims than the riled up, insane ones they like to splash all over the news.


Agreed but I'd prefer it if the governments and populaces of Islamic countries would deal with their own hate groups so we don't have to. Ultra-liberal, hedonistic, lazy America (according to the radicals) found a way to deal with the KKK. Why are Mohammed's chosen masses getting out preformed a bunch of infidels?
2012-09-18 10:49:51 AM
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The tipping point has begun.

People can only be broke, pissed off and angry so long before they get tired of being sick and tired and just go look for the nearest party or make a joke out of anything.

Those two dudes jumping up and down in the back of pick-up just put down their AK-47's and said fark it, let's go chill. I even notice with this a lot white folks lately. They just don't have the energy or even the will to be as racist anymore. It's like fark it, come do the chicken dance and let's just be happy n******s, I mean buddy. And the black folks are like fark it, it's all good. And we drag along some Asians and Latinos for the party and the next thing you know everyone is like fark it, let's just smoke a joint and call it a farking day.

fark Obama, fark Romney, fark all them motha farkas in congress and parliament and dictatorships the world over. fark Wall Street, fark the mothafarkas blowing up and shootin up shiat.

The only way to end these crazy mothafarkas is to laugh them the fark out of existence.

fark it.
2012-09-18 10:49:44 AM
1 votes:

Joe Blowme: modesto: Joe Blowme: Canton: Rik01: That's kind of funny. Though it would be nice if the Media displayed more such normal Muslims than the riled up, insane ones they like to splash all over the news.

Yeah, but that's not going to happen. Normal people are boring and don't get the ratings, right?

Those ARE normal muslims

Oh yeah? You spent a lot of time in a muslim country to form that conclusion?

Yes i have, how about you?


Writing from Cairo. You're lying.
2012-09-18 10:46:14 AM
1 votes:

atomicmask: pute kisses like a man: people seem to use this term freedom of speech. wtf does it have to do with anything?

why on earth would anyone else give a flying fark about our constitutional protections? it's just the way this country does it, it's not some mandate from the law of the universe. no one else has to give a flying fark about freedom of speech, plus, it only protects you from government censorship... it doesn't protect you from being an ass and pissing people off

You have no concept about the law, or its intended purpose or meaning. It does not protect us from pissing people off, it protects us from violence because we pissed someone off. It is that whole "Civilized society" thing we got going for us. The law exists to protect the few from the many and the weak from the strong. Why on earth should we care if we offend people half way around the world?


The First Amendment protects individuals from laws passed that would restrict what we are allowed to say. It was intended more to let citizens speak out against the government, than to allow people to say whatever they want about any topic.

The freedom of speech also does not include:

- Speech that contains "fighting words" (insulting or abusive language that is likely to cause "an immediate violent response");
- Obscenities;
- Language or communication directed to inciting, producing or urging the commission of a crime;
- Defamation - words or communication that are false and untrue and are intended to injure the character and reputation of another person;
- Abusive, obscene or harassing telephone calls;
- Loud speech and loud noise meant by volume to disturb others or to create a clear and present danger of violence.


I've bolded the relevant point above, which is that saying something that results in the commission of a crime is not protected speech.

Producing a video with the sole intent to disturb shiat, possibly getting American citizens killed, is just willfully negligent, if not criminal, and the asshole responsible should be facing charges.
2012-09-18 10:45:34 AM
1 votes:

Bermuda59: We've had #FARKrage for year, just go to the Politics page


What's funny about that statement is that we Politics tabbers have been coming into relevant threads in other tabs trying to educate the rest of you about how all this wasn't caused by those videos since the day it happened. The one time we're more level-headed than the rest of you and none notice it...
2012-09-18 10:40:27 AM
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Zarquon's Flat Tire: I thought a rage was the name for a group of Muslims. Like a prude of Christians, a flow of Taoists, or a bank of Jews.


This joke is excellent. You are excellent.
2012-09-18 10:38:41 AM
1 votes:

Canton: Rik01: That's kind of funny. Though it would be nice if the Media displayed more such normal Muslims than the riled up, insane ones they like to splash all over the news.

Yeah, but that's not going to happen. Normal people are boring and don't get the ratings, right?


Those ARE normal muslims
2012-09-18 10:38:34 AM
1 votes:
Agreed to an arranged marriage at 45, find out wife is 10, to old for me! #muslimrage
2012-09-18 10:34:24 AM
1 votes:
Also... if no one can draw Mohammed... how does anyone know when they've drawn mohammed?!
2012-09-18 10:32:41 AM
1 votes:
Give 10% of my salary to church so the priest can afford a house where he can fark my son's ass. #CatholicRage

amidoingitright
2012-09-18 10:32:21 AM
1 votes:

Rik01: That's kind of funny. Though it would be nice if the Media displayed more such normal Muslims than the riled up, insane ones they like to splash all over the news.


If only the more normal muslims blew shiat up or hijacked planes or stormed embassies they might get on the news!
2012-09-18 10:28:14 AM
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NiceBeaver: So, let me get this right...an American uses his Constitutionally protected freedom of speech to make a youtube video that points out problems with how a great deal of the Middle East practices Islam, and despite numerous reports from on-ground sources (and the Libyan President) plainly describing how riots - that have cost Americans their lives - are ultimately unrelated to the video, but instead are a coordinated attack on American embassies, the White House asks Youtube to take down the video, the filmmaker gets taken in for questioning (not for a lame parole violation issue), and liberals like Hillary Clinton double-down on the notion that the video is to blame?
.


Wow, I don't think anything you just wrote is true. I don't like Barry Obama either, but get your shiat straight ya dope.
2012-09-18 10:27:45 AM
1 votes:

JackieRabbit: We simply must come up with a perverse sex act to call "a Muslim Rage".


Unlubed anal to preserve the hymen for marriage?

www.musikchan.com
2012-09-18 10:26:20 AM
1 votes:
That's kind of funny. Though it would be nice if the Media displayed more such normal Muslims than the riled up, insane ones they like to splash all over the news.
2012-09-18 10:21:15 AM
1 votes:
The word "hilarious" must have caused me read that as Muslim Reggae.
2012-09-18 10:20:56 AM
1 votes:
We've had #FARKrage for year, just go to the Politics page
PJ-
2012-09-18 10:20:14 AM
1 votes:

AgentBang: I vote that we start a #ChristianRage tag on Twitter, see how well that floats in 'Merika.


Found out my pool guy Jesus can't walk on water. What do you mean they don't pronounce it that way where they are from? #ChristianRage
2012-09-18 10:19:01 AM
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We simply must come up with a perverse sex act to call "a Muslim Rage".
2012-09-18 10:10:29 AM
1 votes:
There's some pretty funny shiat on there.
2012-09-18 10:05:54 AM
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