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2012-09-18 09:41:34 AM
"Lost your kid Jihad at the airport. Can't yell for him. - #MuslimRage"

now that's funny
 
2012-09-18 10:02:09 AM
Just saw this one and it made me laugh:

Ramadan in Iceland when days are 23 hours long. #muslimrage
 
2012-09-18 10:05:54 AM
snort
 
2012-09-18 10:09:21 AM
FTA: "But it seems there is no consensus on just what incites rage these days."

In this case, a wee stipend, perhaps?
 
2012-09-18 10:10:29 AM
There's some pretty funny shiat on there.
 
2012-09-18 10:11:20 AM
Muslim rage...
Is that like a kind of dance party?
 
2012-09-18 10:13:47 AM
Non-muslims exist. #muslimrage
 
2012-09-18 10:13:54 AM
Can't find the fabric you need?

#muslin_rage
 
2012-09-18 10:15:47 AM
mypetjawa.mu.nu

THIS IS A #MUSLIMRAGE
 
2012-09-18 10:15:57 AM
So, let me get this right...an American uses his Constitutionally protected freedom of speech to make a youtube video that points out problems with how a great deal of the Middle East practices Islam, and despite numerous reports from on-ground sources (and the Libyan President) plainly describing how riots - that have cost Americans their lives - are ultimately unrelated to the video, but instead are a coordinated attack on American embassies, the White House asks Youtube to take down the video, the filmmaker gets taken in for questioning (not for a lame parole violation issue), and liberals like Hillary Clinton double-down on the notion that the video is to blame?

Remember all those riots and deaths when the piss-Christ thing was being trumpeted by the same crowd denouncing this film? Yeah, me neither.
 
2012-09-18 10:17:43 AM
I vote that we start a #ChristianRage tag on Twitter, see how well that floats in 'Merika.
 
2012-09-18 10:19:01 AM
We simply must come up with a perverse sex act to call "a Muslim Rage".
 
2012-09-18 10:19:46 AM
I thought a rage was the name for a group of Muslims. Like a prude of Christians, a flow of Taoists, or a bank of Jews.
 
PJ-
2012-09-18 10:20:14 AM

AgentBang: I vote that we start a #ChristianRage tag on Twitter, see how well that floats in 'Merika.


Found out my pool guy Jesus can't walk on water. What do you mean they don't pronounce it that way where they are from? #ChristianRage
 
gja [TotalFark]
2012-09-18 10:20:45 AM

JackieRabbit: We simply must come up with a perverse sex act to call "a Muslim Rage".


The beast with 2 Burkhas?
 
2012-09-18 10:20:56 AM
We've had #FARKrage for year, just go to the Politics page
 
2012-09-18 10:21:02 AM

AgentBang: I vote that we start a #ChristianRage tag on Twitter, see how well that floats in 'Merika.


Ha.

Had to pay taxes that went to healing the sick...#ChristianRage
 
2012-09-18 10:21:15 AM
The word "hilarious" must have caused me read that as Muslim Reggae.
 
2012-09-18 10:21:21 AM
"But it seems there is no consensus on just what incites rage these days."

Only among the willfully blind and ignorant, to everyone else it is extremely clear what incites muslim rage these days. Criticizing allah, mohammed, or islam itself.

Wow look! A bunch of muslims wrote corny jokes about minor details of their religion! HA HA they are a fun loving group are they not? Wait none of them actually said it was alright to draw mohammed if you are a non-muslim or that we have freedom of speech.
 
2012-09-18 10:23:11 AM

JackieRabbit: We simply must come up with a perverse sex act to call "a Muslim Rage".


It's like a donkey punch but you cut off your partners head instead of punching them.


/Or it involves poop in the beard
 
2012-09-18 10:25:24 AM

JackieRabbit: We simply must come up with a perverse sex act to call "a Muslim Rage".


It already exists, it is where you toss a bed sheet over your partner, punch them in the mouth, then fark a goat afterwards all the while screaming about dominating the world.
 
2012-09-18 10:26:20 AM
That's kind of funny. Though it would be nice if the Media displayed more such normal Muslims than the riled up, insane ones they like to splash all over the news.
 
2012-09-18 10:26:38 AM
Ha ha ha ha.

What the hell. Off to Google Translate.

ها ها ها ها ها ها.
 
2012-09-18 10:27:13 AM
A more serious discussion, on twitter? 
i.qkme.me
 
2012-09-18 10:27:25 AM

Lone Stranger: JackieRabbit: We simply must come up with a perverse sex act to call "a Muslim Rage".

It's like a donkey punch but you cut off your partners head instead of punching them.


/Or it involves poop in the beard


Do bring Katie Holmes and her sexual preferences into this!
 
2012-09-18 10:27:45 AM

JackieRabbit: We simply must come up with a perverse sex act to call "a Muslim Rage".


Unlubed anal to preserve the hymen for marriage?

www.musikchan.com
 
2012-09-18 10:27:52 AM

BokerBill: Muslim rage...
Is that like a kind of dance party?


See  #muslimrave
 
2012-09-18 10:28:03 AM

deffuse: Lone Stranger: JackieRabbit: We simply must come up with a perverse sex act to call "a Muslim Rage".

It's like a donkey punch but you cut off your partners head instead of punching them.


/Or it involves poop in the beard

Don't bring Katie Holmes and her sexual preferences into this!

 
2012-09-18 10:28:14 AM

NiceBeaver: So, let me get this right...an American uses his Constitutionally protected freedom of speech to make a youtube video that points out problems with how a great deal of the Middle East practices Islam, and despite numerous reports from on-ground sources (and the Libyan President) plainly describing how riots - that have cost Americans their lives - are ultimately unrelated to the video, but instead are a coordinated attack on American embassies, the White House asks Youtube to take down the video, the filmmaker gets taken in for questioning (not for a lame parole violation issue), and liberals like Hillary Clinton double-down on the notion that the video is to blame?
.


Wow, I don't think anything you just wrote is true. I don't like Barry Obama either, but get your shiat straight ya dope.
 
2012-09-18 10:29:22 AM
Muslim Rage...good name for a rock band.
static1.businessinsider.com
 
2012-09-18 10:30:36 AM

atomicmask: "But it seems there is no consensus on just what incites rage these days."

Only among the willfully blind and ignorant, to everyone else it is extremely clear what incites muslim rage these days. Criticizing allah, mohammed, or islam itself.

Wow look! A bunch of muslims wrote corny jokes about minor details of their religion! HA HA they are a fun loving group are they not? Wait none of them actually said it was alright to draw mohammed if you are a non-muslim or that we have freedom of speech.


If we can't draw Mohammed, that eliminates half of the men in the Muslim world. #ABDULRAGE
 
2012-09-18 10:30:58 AM

atomicmask: "But it seems there is no consensus on just what incites rage these days."

Only among the willfully blind and ignorant, to everyone else it is extremely clear what incites muslim rage these days. Criticizing allah, mohammed, or islam itself.

Wow look! A bunch of muslims wrote corny jokes about minor details of their religion! HA HA they are a fun loving group are they not? Wait none of them actually said it was alright to draw mohammed if you are a non-muslim or that we have freedom of speech.


Know how i know you're a frightened bigot who has haver been to the middle east?
 
2012-09-18 10:31:15 AM
1.bp.blogspot.com

Wait?!?! Whos that hugging Jesus?!?

Why does noone ever remember this....
 
2012-09-18 10:31:46 AM

AgentBang: I vote that we start a #ChristianRage tag on Twitter, see how well that floats in 'Merika.


Takes forever waiting for Hometown Buffet to refill its prime rib. Will result in even chintzier tip to the waitress. #ChristianRage
 
2012-09-18 10:32:21 AM

Rik01: That's kind of funny. Though it would be nice if the Media displayed more such normal Muslims than the riled up, insane ones they like to splash all over the news.


If only the more normal muslims blew shiat up or hijacked planes or stormed embassies they might get on the news!
 
2012-09-18 10:32:24 AM

Savage Bacon: JackieRabbit: We simply must come up with a perverse sex act to call "a Muslim Rage".

Unlubed anal to preserve the hymen for marriage?


Damn it, now i'm going to have that face in my mind the next time the lady and I have relations...

So.... thank you?
 
2012-09-18 10:32:41 AM
Give 10% of my salary to church so the priest can afford a house where he can fark my son's ass. #CatholicRage

amidoingitright
 
2012-09-18 10:32:59 AM

AgentBang: I vote that we start a #ChristianRage tag on Twitter, see how well that floats in 'Merika.


This was the big news across the Interwebs yesterday. Fark is late to the dance.

There are plenty of #ChristianRage, #JewishRage, #HinduRage, and even #AtheistRage postings out there already.
 
2012-09-18 10:32:59 AM

NiceBeaver: So, let me get this right...an American uses his Constitutionally protected freedom of speech to make a youtube video that points out problems with how a great deal of the Middle East practices Islam, and despite numerous reports from on-ground sources (and the Libyan President) plainly describing how riots - that have cost Americans their lives - are ultimately unrelated to the video, but instead are a coordinated attack on American embassies, the White House asks Youtube to take down the video, the filmmaker gets taken in for questioning (not for a lame parole violation issue), and liberals like Hillary Clinton double-down on the notion that the video is to blame?

Remember all those riots and deaths when the piss-Christ thing was being trumpeted by the same crowd denouncing this film? Yeah, me neither.


Go back and check out the threads on the topic over the past week or so. GAT_00 and cameroncrazy1984 have finally jumped the shark with their derp-tastic takes on the events. The multitude of smack downs, even from people with whom they normally agree, have not convinced them to rethink their position but have only served to reinforce their notion that they're "speaking truth to power" or whatever the hell they've convinced themselves they're doing.
 
2012-09-18 10:33:05 AM
people seem to use this term freedom of speech. wtf does it have to do with anything?

why on earth would anyone else give a flying fark about our constitutional protections? it's just the way this country does it, it's not some mandate from the law of the universe. no one else has to give a flying fark about freedom of speech, plus, it only protects you from government censorship... it doesn't protect you from being an ass and pissing people off
 
2012-09-18 10:34:24 AM
Also... if no one can draw Mohammed... how does anyone know when they've drawn mohammed?!
 
2012-09-18 10:34:43 AM
That's honestly some of the best material I've seen on the web in years. Good on 'em.
 
2012-09-18 10:34:49 AM

Rik01: That's kind of funny. Though it would be nice if the Media displayed more such normal Muslims than the riled up, insane ones they like to splash all over the news.


sp33deeohsix.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-09-18 10:35:00 AM

Rik01: That's kind of funny. Though it would be nice if the Media displayed more such normal Muslims than the riled up, insane ones they like to splash all over the news.


Yeah, but that's not going to happen. Normal people are boring and don't get the ratings, right?
 
2012-09-18 10:36:04 AM

pute kisses like a man: people seem to use this term freedom of speech. wtf does it have to do with anything?

why on earth would anyone else give a flying fark about our constitutional protections? it's just the way this country does it, it's not some mandate from the law of the universe. no one else has to give a flying fark about freedom of speech, plus, it only protects you from government censorship... it doesn't protect you from being an ass and pissing people off


You have no concept about the law, or its intended purpose or meaning. It does not protect us from pissing people off, it protects us from violence because we pissed someone off. It is that whole "Civilized society" thing we got going for us. The law exists to protect the few from the many and the weak from the strong. Why on earth should we care if we offend people half way around the world?
 
2012-09-18 10:36:59 AM
Hash tags, How do they work?
#MuslimRage
 
2012-09-18 10:37:22 AM
Starched my underwear again! #MormonRage
 
GBB
2012-09-18 10:38:01 AM

AgentBang: I vote that we start a #ChristianRage tag on Twitter, see how well that floats in 'Merika.


Getting dirty looks from co-workers when I point out they have smudge on forehead #ChristianRage
 
2012-09-18 10:38:09 AM
s15.postimage.org
 
2012-09-18 10:38:34 AM
Agreed to an arranged marriage at 45, find out wife is 10, to old for me! #muslimrage
 
2012-09-18 10:38:40 AM
Muslim rage is the bestest rage.
 
2012-09-18 10:38:41 AM

Canton: Rik01: That's kind of funny. Though it would be nice if the Media displayed more such normal Muslims than the riled up, insane ones they like to splash all over the news.

Yeah, but that's not going to happen. Normal people are boring and don't get the ratings, right?


Those ARE normal muslims
 
2012-09-18 10:39:10 AM

Rik01: That's kind of funny. Though it would be nice if the Media displayed more such normal Muslims than the riled up, insane ones they like to splash all over the news.


Check out the Canadian show Little Mosque on the Prairie. I think its finished its run now, but there are a few seasons of backwatching

/raised baptist
//believeth not
/// found the show decent enough, if not uproariously funny.
//// Corner Gas was better
 
2012-09-18 10:39:23 AM

NiceBeaver: So, let me get this right...an American uses his Constitutionally protected freedom of speech to make a youtube video that points out problems with how a great deal of the Middle East practices Islam, and despite numerous reports from on-ground sources (and the Libyan President) plainly describing how riots - that have cost Americans their lives - are ultimately unrelated to the video, but instead are a coordinated attack on American embassies, the White House asks Youtube to take down the video, the filmmaker gets taken in for questioning (not for a lame parole violation issue), and liberals like Hillary Clinton double-down on the notion that the video is to blame?

Remember all those riots and deaths when the piss-Christ thing was being trumpeted by the same crowd denouncing this film? Yeah, me neither.


I think you started out with a direction in mind but ended up wildly swerving all over the damned road and careening into the ditch. In the aftermath no one can discern your original intent.
 
2012-09-18 10:39:37 AM
1/2 a bottle of gin and plenty of tonic. NO LIMES #DrunkenRage
 
2012-09-18 10:39:38 AM
How do you say the following phrases in Pashto?

"Git r done."

"I don't care who you are, that's funny right there."

"Redneck."

"Who is on first?" ('first' as in first base in baseball)

"Surely you can't be serious?"

"My hovercraft is full of eels."
 
2012-09-18 10:39:54 AM

deffuse: deffuse: Lone Stranger: JackieRabbit: We simply must come up with a perverse sex act to call "a Muslim Rage".

It's like a donkey punch but you cut off your partners head instead of punching them.


/Or it involves poop in the beard

Don't bring Katie Holmes and her sexual preferences into this!


I liked it the original way better.
 
2012-09-18 10:40:27 AM

Zarquon's Flat Tire: I thought a rage was the name for a group of Muslims. Like a prude of Christians, a flow of Taoists, or a bank of Jews.


This joke is excellent. You are excellent.
 
2012-09-18 10:41:34 AM
JackieRabbit       
 
Smartest
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  2012-09-18 10:19:01 AM  
We simply must come up with a perverse sex act to call "a Muslim Rage".


it's when you have three people and one of them **** in the other's **** so that the **** oozes out around the sides and then the midget **** with the wide end of a dry ***** until everyone ****** in each other's *****.

see we can censor the things that might upset someone and thus create world peace. Of course no one will be able to communicate in any way but that's a small price to pay to avoid made-up butthurt.

\tower of babble
 
2012-09-18 10:41:52 AM

Savage Bacon: JackieRabbit: We simply must come up with a perverse sex act to call "a Muslim Rage".

Unlubed anal to preserve the hymen for marriage?

[www.musikchan.com image 360x284]


Smegma swapping for Allah
 
2012-09-18 10:41:54 AM
My lox was not sliced thinly enough and there are no garlic bagels! #JewishRage
 
2012-09-18 10:42:12 AM

Deep Contact: Muslim Rage...good name for a rock band.
[static1.businessinsider.com image 590x393]


Why not Amish Rage out of Corvallis, Oregon?

And then there's Amish road rage:

blog.davidhoyle.com

Finally, there's Quaker Rage:

chzupnextinsports.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-09-18 10:42:15 AM

atomicmask: "But it seems there is no consensus on just what incites rage these days."

Only among the willfully blind and ignorant, to everyone else it is extremely clear what incites muslim rage these days. Criticizing allah, mohammed, or islam itself.

Wow look! A bunch of muslims wrote corny jokes about minor details of their religion! HA HA they are a fun loving group are they not? Wait none of them actually said it was alright to draw mohammed if you are a non-muslim or that we have freedom of speech.


So the creator of the universe told them that no one should make an image of mohammed and your complaint is that they don't say that it's ok for people to make an image of mohammed? I don't think ... there ... oh wtf

i141.photobucket.com
 
2012-09-18 10:43:17 AM

Joe Blowme: Canton: Rik01: That's kind of funny. Though it would be nice if the Media displayed more such normal Muslims than the riled up, insane ones they like to splash all over the news.

Yeah, but that's not going to happen. Normal people are boring and don't get the ratings, right?

Those ARE normal muslims


Oh yeah? You spent a lot of time in a muslim country to form that conclusion?
 
2012-09-18 10:44:12 AM

atomicmask: Agreed to an arranged marriage at 45, find out wife is 10, to old for me! #muslimrage


Decaf. Look into it.

/the Twitter jokes were funny, Frances
 
2012-09-18 10:44:47 AM
Found out Sea of Galilee wasn't made of wine, even though Jesus walked all over it. #CHRISTIANRAGE
 
2012-09-18 10:45:10 AM

trappedspirit: atomicmask: "But it seems there is no consensus on just what incites rage these days."

Only among the willfully blind and ignorant, to everyone else it is extremely clear what incites muslim rage these days. Criticizing allah, mohammed, or islam itself.

Wow look! A bunch of muslims wrote corny jokes about minor details of their religion! HA HA they are a fun loving group are they not? Wait none of them actually said it was alright to draw mohammed if you are a non-muslim or that we have freedom of speech.

So the creator of the universe told them that no one should make an image of mohammed and your complaint is that they don't say that it's ok for people to make an image of mohammed? I don't think ... there ... oh wtf

[i141.photobucket.com image 342x538]


I want them to say that non-muslims have that right, the same way jews think non-jews are alright to eat shellfish. I want them to admit that the rules of islam do not apply to everyone in the world, just to muslims.
 
2012-09-18 10:45:34 AM

Bermuda59: We've had #FARKrage for year, just go to the Politics page


What's funny about that statement is that we Politics tabbers have been coming into relevant threads in other tabs trying to educate the rest of you about how all this wasn't caused by those videos since the day it happened. The one time we're more level-headed than the rest of you and none notice it...
 
2012-09-18 10:45:52 AM

susansto-helit: atomicmask: Agreed to an arranged marriage at 45, find out wife is 10, to old for me! #muslimrage

Decaf. Look into it.

/the Twitter jokes were funny, Frances


muslim pedophilia and arranged marriages, look into it.
 
2012-09-18 10:46:14 AM

atomicmask: pute kisses like a man: people seem to use this term freedom of speech. wtf does it have to do with anything?

why on earth would anyone else give a flying fark about our constitutional protections? it's just the way this country does it, it's not some mandate from the law of the universe. no one else has to give a flying fark about freedom of speech, plus, it only protects you from government censorship... it doesn't protect you from being an ass and pissing people off

You have no concept about the law, or its intended purpose or meaning. It does not protect us from pissing people off, it protects us from violence because we pissed someone off. It is that whole "Civilized society" thing we got going for us. The law exists to protect the few from the many and the weak from the strong. Why on earth should we care if we offend people half way around the world?


The First Amendment protects individuals from laws passed that would restrict what we are allowed to say. It was intended more to let citizens speak out against the government, than to allow people to say whatever they want about any topic.

The freedom of speech also does not include:

- Speech that contains "fighting words" (insulting or abusive language that is likely to cause "an immediate violent response");
- Obscenities;
- Language or communication directed to inciting, producing or urging the commission of a crime;
- Defamation - words or communication that are false and untrue and are intended to injure the character and reputation of another person;
- Abusive, obscene or harassing telephone calls;
- Loud speech and loud noise meant by volume to disturb others or to create a clear and present danger of violence.


I've bolded the relevant point above, which is that saying something that results in the commission of a crime is not protected speech.

Producing a video with the sole intent to disturb shiat, possibly getting American citizens killed, is just willfully negligent, if not criminal, and the asshole responsible should be facing charges.
 
2012-09-18 10:47:08 AM
Went to the Holy Land to find Jesus, and only found a bunch of bald guys in monk outfits #ChristianRage.

/I'm gonna have to work on this
//not as much material that would work in a society where Christians dominate
 
2012-09-18 10:47:33 AM
I requested to transfer $10,000 from my ING savings to buy a waverunner, and they told me the funds would be available in 2-3 days. #WASPRAGE
 
2012-09-18 10:48:23 AM

modesto: Joe Blowme: Canton: Rik01: That's kind of funny. Though it would be nice if the Media displayed more such normal Muslims than the riled up, insane ones they like to splash all over the news.

Yeah, but that's not going to happen. Normal people are boring and don't get the ratings, right?

Those ARE normal muslims

Oh yeah? You spent a lot of time in a muslim country to form that conclusion?


Yes i have, how about you?
 
2012-09-18 10:49:17 AM

lostcat: atomicmask: pute kisses like a man: people seem to use this term freedom of speech. wtf does it have to do with anything?

why on earth would anyone else give a flying fark about our constitutional protections? it's just the way this country does it, it's not some mandate from the law of the universe. no one else has to give a flying fark about freedom of speech, plus, it only protects you from government censorship... it doesn't protect you from being an ass and pissing people off

You have no concept about the law, or its intended purpose or meaning. It does not protect us from pissing people off, it protects us from violence because we pissed someone off. It is that whole "Civilized society" thing we got going for us. The law exists to protect the few from the many and the weak from the strong. Why on earth should we care if we offend people half way around the world?

The First Amendment protects individuals from laws passed that would restrict what we are allowed to say. It was intended more to let citizens speak out against the government, than to allow people to say whatever they want about any topic.

The freedom of speech also does not include:

- Speech that contains "fighting words" (insulting or abusive language that is likely to cause "an immediate violent response");
- Obscenities;
- Language or communication directed to inciting, producing or urging the commission of a crime;
- Defamation - words or communication that are false and untrue and are intended to injure the character and reputation of another person;
- Abusive, obscene or harassing telephone calls;
- Loud speech and loud noise meant by volume to disturb others or to create a clear and present danger of violence.


I've bolded the relevant point above, which is that saying something that results in the commission of a crime is not protected speech.

Producing a video with the sole intent to disturb shiat, possibly getting American citizens killed, is just willfully negligent, if not cri ...


Fantastic, your post has made me angry and im about to go commit a crime to show how mad I am, welcome to being my accomplice!


Again you have no concept of how the law works. How did that video uge the comission of a crime, especially a crime that happened across the world by unrelated individuals? Again, just critiquing or making satire about mohammed and islam?! Really? Sounds like Islam has become a protected religion in your mind..
 
2012-09-18 10:49:28 AM

brawberrys: Wait?!?! Whos that hugging Jesus?!?

Why does noone ever remember this....


It aways kind of irritated me that south park pussed out when it came to the mohammed episode. They trash everyone elses religion. I guess they figured no one from the other religions might try to kill them over a cartoon. Same goes for family guy.
 
2012-09-18 10:49:44 AM

Joe Blowme: modesto: Joe Blowme: Canton: Rik01: That's kind of funny. Though it would be nice if the Media displayed more such normal Muslims than the riled up, insane ones they like to splash all over the news.

Yeah, but that's not going to happen. Normal people are boring and don't get the ratings, right?

Those ARE normal muslims

Oh yeah? You spent a lot of time in a muslim country to form that conclusion?

Yes i have, how about you?


Writing from Cairo. You're lying.
 
2012-09-18 10:49:51 AM
The tipping point has begun.

People can only be broke, pissed off and angry so long before they get tired of being sick and tired and just go look for the nearest party or make a joke out of anything.

Those two dudes jumping up and down in the back of pick-up just put down their AK-47's and said fark it, let's go chill. I even notice with this a lot white folks lately. They just don't have the energy or even the will to be as racist anymore. It's like fark it, come do the chicken dance and let's just be happy n******s, I mean buddy. And the black folks are like fark it, it's all good. And we drag along some Asians and Latinos for the party and the next thing you know everyone is like fark it, let's just smoke a joint and call it a farking day.

fark Obama, fark Romney, fark all them motha farkas in congress and parliament and dictatorships the world over. fark Wall Street, fark the mothafarkas blowing up and shootin up shiat.

The only way to end these crazy mothafarkas is to laugh them the fark out of existence.

fark it.
 
2012-09-18 10:51:06 AM
The gyros at Shawarma King isn't halal. #MuslimRage
 
2012-09-18 10:51:11 AM
Rik01       
 
Smartest
Funniest
  2012-09-18 10:26:20 AM  
That's kind of funny. Though it would be nice if the Media displayed more such normal Muslims than the riled up, insane ones they like to splash all over the news.


Agreed but I'd prefer it if the governments and populaces of Islamic countries would deal with their own hate groups so we don't have to. Ultra-liberal, hedonistic, lazy America (according to the radicals) found a way to deal with the KKK. Why are Mohammed's chosen masses getting out preformed a bunch of infidels?
 
2012-09-18 10:51:17 AM
Can't hear the Wailing Wall because of all the people making noise. #JEWISHRAGE
 
2012-09-18 10:51:50 AM
These are all really funny.

/don't kill me
 
2012-09-18 10:51:57 AM

modesto: Joe Blowme: modesto: Joe Blowme: Canton: Rik01: That's kind of funny. Though it would be nice if the Media displayed more such normal Muslims than the riled up, insane ones they like to splash all over the news.

Yeah, but that's not going to happen. Normal people are boring and don't get the ratings, right?

Those ARE normal muslims

Oh yeah? You spent a lot of time in a muslim country to form that conclusion?

Yes i have, how about you?

Writing from Cairo. You're lying.


Writting from America, your lying.

/saudi 91-94
//Kuwait 97-2000
///Blow it out your ass dhimmi
 
2012-09-18 10:52:10 AM
Went to a rap club, found out my cotillion dance classes just didn't cut it on the dance floor. #WASPRAGE
 
2012-09-18 10:52:15 AM

lostcat:
- Language or communication directed to inciting, producing or urging the commission of a crime;
I've bolded the relevant point above, which is that saying something that results in the commission of a crime is not protected speech.

Producing a video with the sole intent to disturb shiat, possibly getting American citizens killed, is just willfully negligent, if not cri ...



That's cute. You think you're a lawyer. Let me just clear this up for you.

It's incitement to an imminent unlawful act. The paradigm is the crowd outside the court room with pitchforks. Absolutely nothing in that video was an incitement to an imminent unlawful act.

Hell you can even say "someone should go commit this crime." That isn't illegal, it's protected speech. You say it to an angry crowd pissed off about an acquittal and that's not protected speech.

Further, the first amendment is media specific. Speeches are different from videos. SCOTUS will never hold that a video is an incitement to an imminent unlawful act because it defies the word "imminent."

But it's cute you tried to play lawyer. Have some bacon.
 
2012-09-18 10:53:35 AM

flucto: "Lost your kid Jihad at the airport. Can't yell for him. - #MuslimRage"

now that's funny


Solution: name your kid "Harry Krishna".
 
2012-09-18 10:53:51 AM

Snarfangel: Can't hear the Wailing Wall because of all the people making noise. #JEWISHRAGE


Went to a party to have a good time, spent all of my time answering questions about whether I knew any good lawyers and accountants #JewishRage
 
2012-09-18 10:54:12 AM
Daughter is dating a Goy #JEWISHRAGE
 
2012-09-18 10:54:26 AM

lostcat: atomicmask: pute kisses like a man: people seem to use this term freedom of speech. wtf does it have to do with anything?

why on earth would anyone else give a flying fark about our constitutional protections? it's just the way this country does it, it's not some mandate from the law of the universe. no one else has to give a flying fark about freedom of speech, plus, it only protects you from government censorship... it doesn't protect you from being an ass and pissing people off

You have no concept about the law, or its intended purpose or meaning. It does not protect us from pissing people off, it protects us from violence because we pissed someone off. It is that whole "Civilized society" thing we got going for us. The law exists to protect the few from the many and the weak from the strong. Why on earth should we care if we offend people half way around the world?

The First Amendment protects individuals from laws passed that would restrict what we are allowed to say. It was intended more to let citizens speak out against the government, than to allow people to say whatever they want about any topic.

The freedom of speech also does not include:

- Speech that contains "fighting words" (insulting or abusive language that is likely to cause "an immediate violent response");
- Obscenities;
- Language or communication directed to inciting, producing or urging the commission of a crime;
- Defamation - words or communication that are false and untrue and are intended to injure the character and reputation of another person;
- Abusive, obscene or harassing telephone calls;
- Loud speech and loud noise meant by volume to disturb others or to create a clear and present danger of violence.


I've bolded the relevant point above, which is that saying something that results in the commission of a crime is not protected speech.

Producing a video with the sole intent to disturb shiat, possibly getting American citizens killed, is just willfully negligent, if not criminal, and the asshole responsible should be facing charges.


Derp. Thanks goodness we live in a country where opinions such as yours are dismissed. China and the Ukraine would like to subscribe to your newsletter, though.
 
2012-09-18 10:54:26 AM

Joe Blowme: modesto: Joe Blowme: modesto: Joe Blowme: Canton: Rik01: That's kind of funny. Though it would be nice if the Media displayed more such normal Muslims than the riled up, insane ones they like to splash all over the news.

Yeah, but that's not going to happen. Normal people are boring and don't get the ratings, right?

Those ARE normal muslims

Oh yeah? You spent a lot of time in a muslim country to form that conclusion?

Yes i have, how about you?

Writing from Cairo. You're lying.

Writting from America, your lying.

/saudi 91-94
//Kuwait 97-2000
///Blow it out your ass dhimmi


lol either this is a top troll or... or... man. i just got blood poisoning from the irony.
 
2012-09-18 10:55:24 AM
Third sister wife wakes me up, says she needs to be held on second sister wife's night. #MORMONRAGE
 
2012-09-18 10:55:32 AM

Joe Blowme: modesto: Joe Blowme: modesto: Joe Blowme: Canton: Rik01: That's kind of funny. Though it would be nice if the Media displayed more such normal Muslims than the riled up, insane ones they like to splash all over the news.

Yeah, but that's not going to happen. Normal people are boring and don't get the ratings, right?

Those ARE normal muslims

Oh yeah? You spent a lot of time in a muslim country to form that conclusion?

Yes i have, how about you?

Writing from Cairo. You're lying.

Writting from America, your lying.

/saudi 91-94
//Kuwait 97-2000
///Blow it out your ass dhimmi


Oh yeah? Military, or oil? Just wondering which kind of compound you lived on that stopped you from interacting with locals.

I apologize if you're not lying, but if so, you must have been sequestered to have such a ridiculously black and white view of a complex society.

I could say that the guys running drones bombing weddings represent america, but that would be a bit of an oversimplificaiton, no?
 
2012-09-18 10:55:37 AM

Publikwerks: Daughter is dating a Goy #JEWISHRAGE


As a goy dating a Jewish girl, I like the cut of your jib.

/I also like the cut of your hair
 
2012-09-18 10:55:42 AM
Found out my Wheel of Life has a flat. #BUDDHISTRAGE
 
2012-09-18 10:56:44 AM

atomicmask: susansto-helit: atomicmask: Agreed to an arranged marriage at 45, find out wife is 10, to old for me! #muslimrage

Decaf. Look into it.

/the Twitter jokes were funny, Frances

muslim pedophilia and arranged marriages, look into it.


You're talking to someone who has been a women's and children's rights activist for more than a decade. Historically, we're humorless types. When even I think you're shiatting all over an otherwise humorous thread, believe me, you're shiatting all over an otherwise humorous thread. 

/Frances
 
2012-09-18 10:57:00 AM

modesto: Joe Blowme: modesto: Joe Blowme: Canton: Rik01: That's kind of funny. Though it would be nice if the Media displayed more such normal Muslims than the riled up, insane ones they like to splash all over the news.

Yeah, but that's not going to happen. Normal people are boring and don't get the ratings, right?

Those ARE normal muslims

Oh yeah? You spent a lot of time in a muslim country to form that conclusion?

Yes i have, how about you?

Writing from Cairo. You're lying.


Link

You are not in egypt, and he is not lying.
 
2012-09-18 10:57:25 AM
Out of oatmeal, and have a run in my stocking. #QUAKERRAGE
 
2012-09-18 10:57:34 AM
Donate money that could have been used for gambling to the church, find out what that money paid for was pawned off by the pastor for gambling debt money. #ProtestantRage
 
2012-09-18 10:58:28 AM
My iPhone isn't syncing with my new $2000 pc so I had to manually drag all the files at once #firstworldrage
 
2012-09-18 10:58:37 AM

brawberrys: [1.bp.blogspot.com image 400x300]

Wait?!?! Whos that hugging Jesus?!?

Why does noone ever remember this....


I remember that episode, and I really wonder if they show that particular Super Best Friend in reruns or show it on new South Park DVDs...
I think that episode was ok because it was before September 11th.

Nowadays everyone has to follow every rule of every religion to avoid offense, and any religious insult will result in the loss of (some unrelated person's) life, so we need to be careful.
 
2012-09-18 10:58:40 AM

susansto-helit: atomicmask: susansto-helit: atomicmask: Agreed to an arranged marriage at 45, find out wife is 10, to old for me! #muslimrage

Decaf. Look into it.

/the Twitter jokes were funny, Frances

muslim pedophilia and arranged marriages, look into it.

You're talking to someone who has been a women's and children's rights activist for more than a decade. Historically, we're humorless types. When even I think you're shiatting all over an otherwise humorous thread, believe me, you're shiatting all over an otherwise humorous thread. 

/Frances


I am shiatting all over muslims, because i do not find the nazi`esque ideology funny, nor do I find the lame attempts at humor to mask an overall general evil in their culture funny. Don't like it, you can piss off.
 
2012-09-18 10:58:47 AM
Why would you name your kid Jihad?

Why not Jeff? Or Jimmy?
 
2012-09-18 11:00:12 AM
CL Benz in for servicing, the only loaner they had was a C Class #WASPRAGE
 
2012-09-18 11:00:25 AM

atomicmask: susansto-helit: atomicmask: susansto-helit: atomicmask: Agreed to an arranged marriage at 45, find out wife is 10, to old for me! #muslimrage

Decaf. Look into it.

/the Twitter jokes were funny, Frances

muslim pedophilia and arranged marriages, look into it.

You're talking to someone who has been a women's and children's rights activist for more than a decade. Historically, we're humorless types. When even I think you're shiatting all over an otherwise humorous thread, believe me, you're shiatting all over an otherwise humorous thread. 

/Frances

I am shiatting all over muslims, because i do not find the nazi`esque ideology funny, nor do I find the lame attempts at humor to mask an overall general evil in their culture funny. Don't like it, you can piss off.


Will do. *plonk*
 
2012-09-18 11:01:31 AM
Lost my voice shouting at an embassy. #MUSLIMRAGE
 
2012-09-18 11:02:30 AM
brawberrys

Also... if no one can draw Mohammed... how does anyone know when they've drawn Mohammed?!


You just blew my mind. What if he's represented by an ASCII character?

☻(PBUH)
 
2012-09-18 11:03:46 AM

atomicmask: modesto: Joe Blowme: modesto: Joe Blowme: Canton: Rik01: That's kind of funny. Though it would be nice if the Media displayed more such normal Muslims than the riled up, insane ones they like to splash all over the news.

Yeah, but that's not going to happen. Normal people are boring and don't get the ratings, right?

Those ARE normal muslims

Oh yeah? You spent a lot of time in a muslim country to form that conclusion?

Yes i have, how about you?

Writing from Cairo. You're lying.

Link

You are not in egypt, and he is not lying.


Oh FFS. The Inquisitor? Really? It must get tiring being so frightened and gullible.

Tech folks, is there any way I can show where I'm connecting from?

Oh forget it. Carry on being simple minded and afraid.
 
2012-09-18 11:03:51 AM
The drinks here are watered down and the DJ sucks. #RAVERAGE
 
2012-09-18 11:04:02 AM
Nobody wants to pump me up. #MUSCLEMANRAGE
 
2012-09-18 11:04:09 AM
Does anyone remember "Springtime for Hitler in Germany"
 
2012-09-18 11:04:57 AM

atomicmask: modesto: Joe Blowme: modesto: Joe Blowme: Canton: Rik01: That's kind of funny. Though it would be nice if the Media displayed more such normal Muslims than the riled up, insane ones they like to splash all over the news.

Yeah, but that's not going to happen. Normal people are boring and don't get the ratings, right?

Those ARE normal muslims

Oh yeah? You spent a lot of time in a muslim country to form that conclusion?

Yes i have, how about you?

Writing from Cairo. You're lying.

Link

You are not in egypt, and he is not lying.


actually, yeah, he is lying. If you think the billion or so muslims on the planet are all like the radical asshole Arab flavor, youre, well, kinda retarded. simple as that. This is a logical conclusion to come to if you live in the US, because theres nothing but this sorta stuff depicted in the media, ut you are, indeed, completely, and quantifiably wrong.

Please see Turkey, a secular muslim state. Or, perhaps Malaysia or Indonesia for further example of Islam can be meshed with modernity and be moderate. The Arab world is backwards and f'd up. So say "the arab world", and youre a little closer to being accurate.

These "muslim rage" islamicists are a buncha asshats and an awful lot of them need to get their wish and get killed in the jihand theyre so looking fwd to. But dude... math is your friend. The numbers are just not holding up your and JoeBlow me's assessment of islam's followers, anecdotal evidence to the contrary notwithstanding.
 
2012-09-18 11:06:42 AM
Nothing new is going on. #AVERAGE
 
2012-09-18 11:07:52 AM
During gang-rape of blonde reporter, some of Abdul's jizz got on my leg #MUSLIMRAGE

/sorry. too far I know.
 
2012-09-18 11:08:03 AM

modesto: Joe Blowme: modesto: Joe Blowme: modesto: Joe Blowme: Canton: Rik01: That's kind of funny. Though it would be nice if the Media displayed more such normal Muslims than the riled up, insane ones they like to splash all over the news.

Yeah, but that's not going to happen. Normal people are boring and don't get the ratings, right?

Those ARE normal muslims

Oh yeah? You spent a lot of time in a muslim country to form that conclusion?

Yes i have, how about you?

Writing from Cairo. You're lying.

Writting from America, your lying.

/saudi 91-94
//Kuwait 97-2000
///Blow it out your ass dhimmi

Oh yeah? Military, or oil? Just wondering which kind of compound you lived on that stopped you from interacting with locals.

I apologize if you're not lying, but if so, you must have been sequestered to have such a ridiculously black and white view of a complex society.

I could say that the guys running drones bombing weddings represent america, but that would be a bit of an oversimplificaiton, no?


You could say that, but then you would just be showing how retarded you are for trying to equate the two.
 
2012-09-18 11:08:51 AM

modesto: atomicmask: modesto: Joe Blowme: modesto: Joe Blowme: Canton: Rik01: That's kind of funny. Though it would be nice if the Media displayed more such normal Muslims than the riled up, insane ones they like to splash all over the news.

Yeah, but that's not going to happen. Normal people are boring and don't get the ratings, right?

Those ARE normal muslims

Oh yeah? You spent a lot of time in a muslim country to form that conclusion?

Yes i have, how about you?

Writing from Cairo. You're lying.

Link

You are not in egypt, and he is not lying.

Oh FFS. The Inquisitor? Really? It must get tiring being so frightened and gullible.

Tech folks, is there any way I can show where I'm connecting from?

Oh forget it. Carry on being simple minded and afraid.


So you deny the validity of the information based on the source? Fair enough...

Link

Link

Link

Link

Should I keep going? Or are you so entrenched in egypt that you are actually connected inside the great pyrmid and have no farking clue whats going on outside?
 
2012-09-18 11:09:09 AM
there's no darkness for me to cast magic missile at #magerage
 
2012-09-18 11:09:36 AM
You stutter while asking for a lo-lo-lo-lo-lo-lo-lottery ticket and are put on terrorist watch. #muslimrage

hahahaha.
 
2012-09-18 11:10:35 AM

JackieRabbit: We simply must come up with a perverse sex act to call "a Muslim Rage".


No, it sounds more like an alcoholic drink. "Hey, Carlie, the party at table 7 wants two Harvey Wallbangers, one Long Island Iced Tea, one Muslim Rage, and one Diet Pepsi."

It should, at a minimum, have both Rum and Vodka in it. A couple of drops of pig's blood for tang.
 
2012-09-18 11:10:47 AM
There are 90 million Egyptians. At the hight of the "rage" (which, by the way, is over and done with as far as the embassy and tahrir are concerned, has been for days), there were MAYBE 1,000 protestors. Of those, 800 were walking around in circles holding signs. 200 were fighting the police. Those were primarily soccer fans/hooligans known as Ultras who take any chance they can to fight with the police because of long standing grievances, most notably the killing of 74 of their members in February, widely believed to be at least in-part a government set-up.

Percentage of Egyptians raging- .000001
 
2012-09-18 11:13:13 AM

atomicmask: I want them to say that non-muslims have that right, the same way jews think non-jews are alright to eat shellfish. I want them to admit that the rules of islam do not apply to everyone in the world, just to muslims.


This is something Christians need a little work on, too. I'm not offended if you want to silently judge my actions and laugh at me because you're so sure I'm going to hell, and I won't tell you to stop believing in things you want to believe, but please don't try to make your faith into law which I have to follow.
 
2012-09-18 11:13:32 AM
If I don't survive, tell my wife, "Hello." #NEUTRAL
 
2012-09-18 11:14:34 AM
I read a good article that pointed out the media here focuses on the Muslim crazies, and ignores the moderates - even when those moderates are the majority.

It would be like Al Jazera saying the Westboro Baptist Church and the KKK spoke for all Americans. It may sell papers or drive pageviews - but it's deceptive, and it makes real dialog difficult.
 
Biv
2012-09-18 11:15:35 AM
i826.photobucket.com
 
2012-09-18 11:15:57 AM

atomicmask: susansto-helit: atomicmask: Agreed to an arranged marriage at 45, find out wife is 10, to old for me! #muslimrageDecaf. Look into it./the Twitter jokes were funny, Frances

muslim pedophilia and arranged marriages, look into it.


'Pedophilia' is sufficiently specific already. No need to further divide it into 'Muslim pedophilia', 'Catholic pedophilia' or 'BSA pedophilia'.
 
2012-09-18 11:15:59 AM

Father_Jack: atomicmask: modesto: Joe Blowme: modesto: Joe Blowme: Canton: Rik01: That's kind of funny. Though it would be nice if the Media displayed more such normal Muslims than the riled up, insane ones they like to splash all over the news.

Yeah, but that's not going to happen. Normal people are boring and don't get the ratings, right?

Those ARE normal muslims

Oh yeah? You spent a lot of time in a muslim country to form that conclusion?

Yes i have, how about you?

Writing from Cairo. You're lying.

Link

You are not in egypt, and he is not lying.

actually, yeah, he is lying. If you think the billion or so muslims on the planet are all like the radical asshole Arab flavor, youre, well, kinda retarded. simple as that. This is a logical conclusion to come to if you live in the US, because theres nothing but this sorta stuff depicted in the media, ut you are, indeed, completely, and quantifiably wrong.

Please see Turkey, a secular muslim state. Or, perhaps Malaysia or Indonesia for further example of Islam can be meshed with modernity and be moderate. The Arab world is backwards and f'd up. So say "the arab world", and youre a little closer to being accurate.

These "muslim rage" islamicists are a buncha asshats and an awful lot of them need to get their wish and get killed in the jihand theyre so looking fwd to. But dude... math is your friend. The numbers are just not holding up your and JoeBlow me's assessment of islam's followers, anecdotal evidence to the contrary notwithstanding.


They are indeed a bunch, enough to warrant concern in every nation that islam gains any footing. Funny how that is.
 
2012-09-18 11:18:05 AM

CheekyMonkey: atomicmask: susansto-helit: atomicmask: Agreed to an arranged marriage at 45, find out wife is 10, to old for me! #muslimrageDecaf. Look into it./the Twitter jokes were funny, Frances

muslim pedophilia and arranged marriages, look into it.

'Pedophilia' is sufficiently specific already. No need to further divide it into 'Muslim pedophilia', 'Catholic pedophilia' or 'BSA pedophilia'.


But she said she was 18. #UNDERAGE
 
2012-09-18 11:18:16 AM

BokerBill: Muslim rage...
Is that like a kind of dance party?


I think we need to get Psy on this stat.
 
2012-09-18 11:18:16 AM

gja: JackieRabbit: We simply must come up with a perverse sex act to call "a Muslim Rage".

The beast with 2 Burkhas?


Awesome.
 
2012-09-18 11:20:54 AM
Brah passed the Dutchie from the right -hand side. #RASTARAGE
 
2012-09-18 11:21:24 AM

Private_Citizen: I read a good article that pointed out the media here focuses on the Muslim crazies, and ignores the moderates - even when those moderates are the majority.

It would be like Al Jazera saying the Westboro Baptist Church and the KKK spoke for all Americans. It may sell papers or drive pageviews - but it's deceptive, and it makes real dialog difficult.


If the Westboro baptist church or KKK stormed the Libyan embassy in Washington, your analogy might be right.

The westboro baptist church doesn't do anything that is newsworthy in the middle east.
 
2012-09-18 11:21:35 AM
Running out of space #storage
 
2012-09-18 11:21:38 AM

Zarquon's Flat Tire: I thought a rage was the name for a group of Muslims. Like a prude of Christians, a flow of Taoists, or a bank of Jews.


It's a dance party with all men and no alcohol.
/Oonce Oonce Oonce Oonce
 
2012-09-18 11:21:41 AM

modesto: There are 90 million Egyptians. At the hight of the "rage" (which, by the way, is over and done with as far as the embassy and tahrir are concerned, has been for days), there were MAYBE 1,000 protestors. Of those, 800 were walking around in circles holding signs. 200 were fighting the police. Those were primarily soccer fans/hooligans known as Ultras who take any chance they can to fight with the police because of long standing grievances, most notably the killing of 74 of their members in February, widely believed to be at least in-part a government set-up.

Percentage of Egyptians raging- .000001


that is funny, according to Aljazeera the number of protesters INJURED is 244. that is well above the 200 that was fighting with police. That is logically, a small percentage of individuals fighting with police were hurt, a larger number of protesters were not scuffling with police.

Link

your dhimmitude is showing.
 
2012-09-18 11:21:42 AM
AgentBang

I vote that we start a #ChristianRage tag on Twitter, see how well that floats in 'Merika.

As soon as they start kidnapping/murdering ambassadors, flying planes into buildings, rioting by the tens of thousands, blowing up ships, school buses, embassies, world heritage sites, etc... etc.. etc.. , I'll be right there with you.

Until then, having some guy in a white dress shirt knock on my door once a year and asking if I've met Jesus really doesn't bother me enough to put on the amount of upset you and yours display.
 
2012-09-18 11:22:23 AM

Joe Blowme: modesto: Joe Blowme: modesto: Joe Blowme: modesto: Joe Blowme: Canton: Rik01: That's kind of funny. Though it would be nice if the Media displayed more such normal Muslims than the riled up, insane ones they like to splash all over the news.

Yeah, but that's not going to happen. Normal people are boring and don't get the ratings, right?

Those ARE normal muslims

Oh yeah? You spent a lot of time in a muslim country to form that conclusion?

Yes i have, how about you?

Writing from Cairo. You're lying.

Writting from America, your lying.

/saudi 91-94
//Kuwait 97-2000
///Blow it out your ass dhimmi

Oh yeah? Military, or oil? Just wondering which kind of compound you lived on that stopped you from interacting with locals.

I apologize if you're not lying, but if so, you must have been sequestered to have such a ridiculously black and white view of a complex society.

I could say that the guys running drones bombing weddings represent america, but that would be a bit of an oversimplificaiton, no?

You could say that, but then you would just be showing how retarded you are for trying to equate the two.


Our mass murder is....righteous and excusable? Explain why.
 
2012-09-18 11:23:06 AM

whenIsayGO: atomicmask: I want them to say that non-muslims have that right, the same way jews think non-jews are alright to eat shellfish. I want them to admit that the rules of islam do not apply to everyone in the world, just to muslims.

This is something Christians need a little work on, too. I'm not offended if you want to silently judge my actions and laugh at me because you're so sure I'm going to hell, and I won't tell you to stop believing in things you want to believe, but please don't try to make your faith into law which I have to follow.


everybody invokes their personal beliefs into laws and rules. wealth distribution, affirmative action, abortion, sin taxes, omfg socialism, etc. just because you think you are reasonable and you agree with people who think like you doesn't mean everyone has to think like you.

/oh noes the Christians are oppressing everyone!
 
2012-09-18 11:23:36 AM

EyeballKid: AgentBang: I vote that we start a #ChristianRage tag on Twitter, see how well that floats in 'Merika.

Takes forever waiting for Hometown Buffet to refill its prime rib. Will result in even chintzier tip to the waitress. #ChristianRage


Socialist liberals giving handouts to the help #christianrage
 
2012-09-18 11:24:02 AM
I'm going to break. I'm going to break my. I'm going to break my #RUSTYCAGE
 
2012-09-18 11:26:20 AM

modesto: Joe Blowme: modesto: Joe Blowme: modesto: Joe Blowme: modesto: Joe Blowme: Canton: Rik01: That's kind of funny. Though it would be nice if the Media displayed more such normal Muslims than the riled up, insane ones they like to splash all over the news.

Yeah, but that's not going to happen. Normal people are boring and don't get the ratings, right?

Those ARE normal muslims

Oh yeah? You spent a lot of time in a muslim country to form that conclusion?

Yes i have, how about you?

Writing from Cairo. You're lying.

Writting from America, your lying.

/saudi 91-94
//Kuwait 97-2000
///Blow it out your ass dhimmi

Oh yeah? Military, or oil? Just wondering which kind of compound you lived on that stopped you from interacting with locals.

I apologize if you're not lying, but if so, you must have been sequestered to have such a ridiculously black and white view of a complex society.

I could say that the guys running drones bombing weddings represent america, but that would be a bit of an oversimplificaiton, no?

You could say that, but then you would just be showing how retarded you are for trying to equate the two.

Our mass murder is....righteous and excusable? Explain why.


Let me explain a bit about islamic fighting tactics...

they like to hide combatants in schools, mosques, weddings, crowds of people, and fight from these positions. They abuse our notions of right and wrong, they use the fact that we value life to their advantage. Hezbollah did it against israel by firing mortars from schools, insurgents do it in iraq and Afghanistan by firing from Mosques and weddings...

I think it is perfectly alright to drop a bomb on a wedding if a group of islamic fundamentalists are fighting from that position, and the wedding goers do not have enough common sense to run for the farking hills.
 
2012-09-18 11:26:24 AM

Hermione_Granger: The tipping point has begun.

People can only be broke, pissed off and angry so long before they get tired of being sick and tired and just go look for the nearest party or make a joke out of anything.

Those two dudes jumping up and down in the back of pick-up just put down their AK-47's and said fark it, let's go chill. I even notice with this a lot white folks lately. They just don't have the energy or even the will to be as racist anymore. It's like fark it, come do the chicken dance and let's just be happy n******s, I mean buddy. And the black folks are like fark it, it's all good. And we drag along some Asians and Latinos for the party and the next thing you know everyone is like fark it, let's just smoke a joint and call it a farking day.

fark Obama, fark Romney, fark all them motha farkas in congress and parliament and dictatorships the world over. fark Wall Street, fark the mothafarkas blowing up and shootin up shiat.

The only way to end these crazy mothafarkas is to laugh them the fark out of existence.

fark it.


I want some of what you are smoking/mainlining.
 
2012-09-18 11:27:15 AM

atomicmask: modesto: There are 90 million Egyptians. At the hight of the "rage" (which, by the way, is over and done with as far as the embassy and tahrir are concerned, has been for days), there were MAYBE 1,000 protestors. Of those, 800 were walking around in circles holding signs. 200 were fighting the police. Those were primarily soccer fans/hooligans known as Ultras who take any chance they can to fight with the police because of long standing grievances, most notably the killing of 74 of their members in February, widely believed to be at least in-part a government set-up.

Percentage of Egyptians raging- .000001

that is funny, according to Aljazeera the number of protesters INJURED is 244. that is well above the 200 that was fighting with police. That is logically, a small percentage of individuals fighting with police were hurt, a larger number of protesters were not scuffling with police.

Link

your dhimmitude is showing.



Uhh...ok. Double my numbers. Heck, multiply by ten. .00001

Put it this way: compared to any of the anti-SCAF protests over the last 1.5 years, this event was tiny.
 
2012-09-18 11:27:20 AM
notatrollorami

>>> ...Remember all those riots and deaths when the piss-Christ thing was being trumpeted by
>>> the same crowd denouncing this film? ...

I think you started out with a direction in mind but ended up wildly swerving all over the damned road and careening into the ditch. In the aftermath no one can discern your original intent.
It's a simple question and you can't comprehend it? Go upstairs, get the dog off your mom and ask her to explain it to you.
 
2012-09-18 11:28:36 AM

atomicmask: I want them to say that non-muslims have that right, the same way jews think non-jews are alright to eat shellfish. I want them to admit that the rules of islam do not apply to everyone in the world, just to muslims.


How about we focus on getting them to stop killing people over it. I couldn't care less about whether or not they feel that I am going to be judged by God according to the law as they know it, regardless of my beliefs. Similarly I couldn't give two shiats that Jews think it's alright for me to eat what I want. Muslims might think that there are certain laws that apply to everyone or not. I don't care. Just don't be enforcing that tribal schwankhalla.
 
2012-09-18 11:29:45 AM
I'm ripping off Killer Instinct, just subbing the characters with dinosaurs and shiat. #PRIMALRAGE
 
2012-09-18 11:31:03 AM
A cow just slobbered all over me. #MOOSLIMERAGE

Sorry
 
2012-09-18 11:32:27 AM

Private_Citizen: I read a good article that pointed out the media here focuses on the Muslim crazies, and ignores the moderates - even when those moderates are the majority.

It would be like Al Jazera saying the Westboro Baptist Church and the KKK spoke for all Americans. It may sell papers or drive pageviews - but it's deceptive, and it makes real dialog difficult.


Typical Westboro protest group turnout:

www.theintelligencer.net

Typical KKK rally turnout:

cubiyanqui.files.wordpress.com

Just the latest, weekly Muslim rage turnout:

static.ibnlive.in.com
 
2012-09-18 11:32:58 AM

atomicmask: modesto: Joe Blowme: modesto: Joe Blowme: modesto: Joe Blowme: modesto: Joe Blowme: Canton: Rik01: That's kind of funny. Though it would be nice if the Media displayed more such normal Muslims than the riled up, insane ones they like to splash all over the news.

Yeah, but that's not going to happen. Normal people are boring and don't get the ratings, right?

Those ARE normal muslims

Oh yeah? You spent a lot of time in a muslim country to form that conclusion?

Yes i have, how about you?

Writing from Cairo. You're lying.

Writting from America, your lying.

/saudi 91-94
//Kuwait 97-2000
///Blow it out your ass dhimmi

Oh yeah? Military, or oil? Just wondering which kind of compound you lived on that stopped you from interacting with locals.

I apologize if you're not lying, but if so, you must have been sequestered to have such a ridiculously black and white view of a complex society.

I could say that the guys running drones bombing weddings represent america, but that would be a bit of an oversimplificaiton, no?

You could say that, but then you would just be showing how retarded you are for trying to equate the two.

Our mass murder is....righteous and excusable? Explain why.

Let me explain a bit about islamic fighting tactics...

they like to hide combatants in schools, mosques, weddings, crowds of people, and fight from these positions. They abuse our notions of right and wrong, they use the fact that we value life to their advantage. Hezbollah did it against israel by firing mortars from schools, insurgents do it in iraq and Afghanistan by firing from Mosques and weddings...

I think it is perfectly alright to drop a bomb on a wedding if a group of islamic fundamentalists are fighting from that position, and the wedding goers do not have enough common sense to run for the farking hills.


So the death of 4 representatives of our actual government (may they RIP) at the hands of militants is enough to justify a blanket condemnation of the muslim world, but it's perfectly fine for us to kill as many civillians as necessary to get whomever we deem bad guys. Got it.
 
2012-09-18 11:34:01 AM

CheekyMonkey: 'Pedophilia' is sufficiently specific already. No need to further divide it into 'Muslim pedophilia', 'Catholic pedophilia' or 'BSA pedophilia'.


Unless it's a thread about 'Catholic pedophilia' or 'BSA pedophilia'. Then it's okay. :)
 
2012-09-18 11:36:21 AM

trappedspirit: atomicmask: I want them to say that non-muslims have that right, the same way jews think non-jews are alright to eat shellfish. I want them to admit that the rules of islam do not apply to everyone in the world, just to muslims.

How about we focus on getting them to stop killing people over it. I couldn't care less about whether or not they feel that I am going to be judged by God according to the law as they know it, regardless of my beliefs. Similarly I couldn't give two shiats that Jews think it's alright for me to eat what I want. Muslims might think that there are certain laws that apply to everyone or not. I don't care. Just don't be enforcing that tribal schwankhalla.


That is the rub, that is exactly why I want them to admit what I said. If they can admit not everyone follows islamic law, not everyone is under sharia, not everyone is under the commandments of mohammed, we can get them to stop killing. But I doubt they ever will, hell, most of the time you cant even find a moderate muslim willing to admit that jews deserve to live.
 
2012-09-18 11:37:13 AM
modesto

>>> Those ARE normal muslims

Oh yeah? You spent a lot of time in a muslim country to form that conclusion?


Fark's islamologist logic:
1 obscure pastor burns a koran,
Reaction > "All chritians and jews are evil scum, deport (or kill) them."

100,000,000 muslims commit hundreds of acts of terrorism, violence, assist in stoning hangings and rapes
Reaction > "Isolated incident!!, but did you see what that one Christian/Jewish guy did?"
 
2012-09-18 11:39:59 AM
Wait it out.
They tire easily.

This is not Occupy, after all.
 
2012-09-18 11:40:08 AM

EyeballKid: I'm ripping off Killer Instinct, just subbing the characters with dinosaurs and shiat. #PRIMALRAGE


#ShaqFuRAGE
 
2012-09-18 11:40:28 AM

modesto: atomicmask: modesto: Joe Blowme: modesto: Joe Blowme: modesto: Joe Blowme: modesto: Joe Blowme: Canton: Rik01: That's kind of funny. Though it would be nice if the Media displayed more such normal Muslims than the riled up, insane ones they like to splash all over the news.

Yeah, but that's not going to happen. Normal people are boring and don't get the ratings, right?

Those ARE normal muslims

Oh yeah? You spent a lot of time in a muslim country to form that conclusion?

Yes i have, how about you?

Writing from Cairo. You're lying.

Writting from America, your lying.

/saudi 91-94
//Kuwait 97-2000
///Blow it out your ass dhimmi

Oh yeah? Military, or oil? Just wondering which kind of compound you lived on that stopped you from interacting with locals.

I apologize if you're not lying, but if so, you must have been sequestered to have such a ridiculously black and white view of a complex society.

I could say that the guys running drones bombing weddings represent america, but that would be a bit of an oversimplificaiton, no?

You could say that, but then you would just be showing how retarded you are for trying to equate the two.

Our mass murder is....righteous and excusable? Explain why.

Let me explain a bit about islamic fighting tactics...

they like to hide combatants in schools, mosques, weddings, crowds of people, and fight from these positions. They abuse our notions of right and wrong, they use the fact that we value life to their advantage. Hezbollah did it against israel by firing mortars from schools, insurgents do it in iraq and Afghanistan by firing from Mosques and weddings...

I think it is perfectly alright to drop a bomb on a wedding if a group of islamic fundamentalists are fighting from that position, and the wedding goers do not have enough common sense to run for the farking hills.

So the death of 4 representatives of our actual government (may they RIP) at the hands of militants is enough to justify a blanket condemnation of the muslim wo ...


You are either willfully stupid, or just cursed with it. Yes, it is alright, especially when said civilians are willing human shields for said militants. Especially when said civilians support the militants. Now you can argue all you like, but ample proof exists that they DO support and endorse the extremists, because the Imams do.

From a gallop pole on the issue

"How much fervor: Gallup polled over 50,000 Muslims across 10 countries and found that, if one defines radicals as those who deemed the 9/11 attacks "completely justified," their number constitutes about 7 percent of the total population. But if one includes Muslims who considered the attacks "largely justified," their ranks jump to 13.5 percent. Adding those who deemed the attacks "somewhat justified" boosts the number of radicals to 36.6 percent."

Now it is safe to assume that quite a few muslims did not tell the truth, perhaps fearing persecution, so I would gage that somewhat justified number at way, way higher.
 
2012-09-18 11:40:37 AM

CheekyMonkey: atomicmask: susansto-helit: atomicmask: Agreed to an arranged marriage at 45, find out wife is 10, to old for me! #muslimrageDecaf. Look into it./the Twitter jokes were funny, Frances

muslim pedophilia and arranged marriages, look into it.

'Pedophilia' is sufficiently specific already. No need to further divide it into 'Muslim pedophilia', 'Catholic pedophilia' or 'BSA pedophilia'.


I disagree. Catholic pedophilia has the added nuance of using the vast resources of the church to move around its practitioners like balls in a shell game while refusing to cooperate with authorities.

They've really earned the distinction in my book.
 
2012-09-18 11:41:35 AM

atomicmask: trappedspirit: atomicmask: I want them to say that non-muslims have that right, the same way jews think non-jews are alright to eat shellfish. I want them to admit that the rules of islam do not apply to everyone in the world, just to muslims.

How about we focus on getting them to stop killing people over it. I couldn't care less about whether or not they feel that I am going to be judged by God according to the law as they know it, regardless of my beliefs. Similarly I couldn't give two shiats that Jews think it's alright for me to eat what I want. Muslims might think that there are certain laws that apply to everyone or not. I don't care. Just don't be enforcing that tribal schwankhalla.

That is the rub, that is exactly why I want them to admit what I said. If they can admit not everyone follows islamic law, not everyone is under sharia, not everyone is under the commandments of mohammed, we can get them to stop killing. But I doubt they ever will, hell, most of the time you cant even find a moderate muslim willing to admit that jews deserve to live.


That is the fine thing about "belief".
Trumps all reality.
 
2012-09-18 11:41:36 AM

NiceBeaver: So, let me get this right...an American uses his Constitutionally protected freedom of speech to make a youtube video that points out problems with how a great deal of the Middle East practices Islam, and despite numerous reports from on-ground sources (and the Libyan President) plainly describing how riots - that have cost Americans their lives - are ultimately unrelated to the video, but instead are a coordinated attack on American embassies, the White House asks Youtube to take down the video, the filmmaker gets taken in for questioning (not for a lame parole violation issue), and liberals like Hillary Clinton double-down on the notion that the video is to blame?

Remember all those riots and deaths when the piss-Christ thing was being trumpeted by the same crowd denouncing this film? Yeah, me neither.


You must be the shiat at a party.
 
2012-09-18 11:43:40 AM
i.imgur.com

"Have a quad. None of them work. #Genophrage"
 
2012-09-18 11:43:51 AM

Drew P Balls: CheekyMonkey: atomicmask: susansto-helit: atomicmask: Agreed to an arranged marriage at 45, find out wife is 10, to old for me! #muslimrageDecaf. Look into it./the Twitter jokes were funny, Frances

muslim pedophilia and arranged marriages, look into it.

'Pedophilia' is sufficiently specific already. No need to further divide it into 'Muslim pedophilia', 'Catholic pedophilia' or 'BSA pedophilia'.

I disagree. Catholic pedophilia has the added nuance of using the vast resources of the church to move around its practitioners like balls in a shell game while refusing to cooperate with authorities.

They've really earned the distinction in my book.


Or, if you live in Yemen, you get the support of the government even when your child bride dies!

Link
 
2012-09-18 11:44:54 AM
SOCKS! I HATE SOCKS! #9YEAROLDCHRISTMASRAGE
 
2012-09-18 11:45:03 AM

JackieRabbit: We simply must come up with a perverse sex act to call "a Muslim Rage".


When the man reaches an orgasm so intense it must be a sign from Allah, only to find out she came first... 

//or the sheep came first, depending on the region...
 
2012-09-18 11:45:14 AM

trippdogg: NiceBeaver: So, let me get this right...an American uses his Constitutionally protected freedom of speech to make a youtube video that points out problems with how a great deal of the Middle East practices Islam, and despite numerous reports from on-ground sources (and the Libyan President) plainly describing how riots - that have cost Americans their lives - are ultimately unrelated to the video, but instead are a coordinated attack on American embassies, the White House asks Youtube to take down the video, the filmmaker gets taken in for questioning (not for a lame parole violation issue), and liberals like Hillary Clinton double-down on the notion that the video is to blame?

Remember all those riots and deaths when the piss-Christ thing was being trumpeted by the same crowd denouncing this film? Yeah, me neither.

You must be the shiat at a party.


I remember the butthurt here when The Last Temptation of Christ was released in 1988.
Not much difference, EXCEPT for the violence.
 
2012-09-18 11:46:34 AM
Eh, I got nothing #ZENRAGE
 
2012-09-18 11:47:04 AM

snocone: trippdogg: NiceBeaver: So, let me get this right...an American uses his Constitutionally protected freedom of speech to make a youtube video that points out problems with how a great deal of the Middle East practices Islam, and despite numerous reports from on-ground sources (and the Libyan President) plainly describing how riots - that have cost Americans their lives - are ultimately unrelated to the video, but instead are a coordinated attack on American embassies, the White House asks Youtube to take down the video, the filmmaker gets taken in for questioning (not for a lame parole violation issue), and liberals like Hillary Clinton double-down on the notion that the video is to blame?

Remember all those riots and deaths when the piss-Christ thing was being trumpeted by the same crowd denouncing this film? Yeah, me neither.

You must be the shiat at a party.

I remember the butthurt here when The Last Temptation of Christ was released in 1988.
Not much difference, EXCEPT for the violence.


And that is the only difference that matters.
 
Biv
2012-09-18 11:48:24 AM
Mother is human, dad is an angel. No one to play ball with.
#NephilimRage
 
2012-09-18 11:49:09 AM

Zarquon's Flat Tire: I thought a rage was the name for a group of Muslims. Like a prude of Christians, a flow of Taoists, or a bank of Jews.


you owe me a keyboard and two monitors.
 
2012-09-18 11:49:25 AM

snocone: I remember the butthurt here when The Last Temptation of Christ was released in 1988.
Not much difference, EXCEPT for the violence.


didn't someone bomb a theater in france that showed that movie?

/ so, uh, there was some violence, i think a dozen people were seriously injuried
 
2012-09-18 11:49:57 AM

atomicmask: And that is the only difference that matters.


Some French Christian fundamentalists firebombed a screening of The Last Temptation of Christ, injuring thirteen.
 
2012-09-18 11:50:14 AM
I like that they have an article like this. It's nice to see the perspective of non-retarded muslims.
 
2012-09-18 11:52:01 AM

Steve McQueen's Motorcycle: Private_Citizen: I read a good article that pointed out the media here focuses on the Muslim crazies, and ignores the moderates - even when those moderates are the majority.

It would be like Al Jazera saying the Westboro Baptist Church and the KKK spoke for all Americans. It may sell papers or drive pageviews - but it's deceptive, and it makes real dialog difficult.

Typical Westboro protest group turnout:

[www.theintelligencer.net image 410x308]

Typical KKK rally turnout:

[cubiyanqui.files.wordpress.com image 300x238]

Just the latest, weekly Muslim rage turnout:

[static.ibnlive.in.com image 630x420]


Wow, those people in the first pic are awfully worked up over the price of Busch 24 packs.
 
2012-09-18 11:52:15 AM

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: atomicmask: And that is the only difference that matters.

Some French Christian fundamentalists firebombed a screening of The Last Temptation of Christ, injuring thirteen.


well, you may have provided better information, but i was 20 seconds faster
 
2012-09-18 11:52:29 AM
Time to leave work so I am bowing out here. Going to go smoke shisha and drink tea with my radical islamist friends. It's really scary and dangerous. Sometimes the the glass is really hot!

It's funny how people from a country with incredibly high rates of violence and incarceration, and something like 200 bases in 80 countries, can be so quick to condemn others as violent radicals. Carry on tho.
 
2012-09-18 11:53:54 AM
Muslim joke from another thread:

You can't call out for your lost child named Jihad at the airport.

Or some sort of semantics like that.
Yea, they are people too.
 
2012-09-18 11:56:08 AM

modesto: Time to leave work so I am bowing out here. Going to go smoke shisha and drink tea with my radical islamist friends. It's really scary and dangerous. Sometimes the the glass is really hot!

It's funny how people from a country with incredibly high rates of violence and incarceration, and something like 200 bases in 80 countries, can be so quick to condemn others as violent radicals. Carry on tho.


That Forever War dealeo is about oil, money and power.
Not religeon.
 
2012-09-18 11:56:47 AM
Not enough milk for my cereal. #mueslixrage
 
2012-09-18 11:57:09 AM

OnlyM3: modesto

>>> Those ARE normal muslims

Oh yeah? You spent a lot of time in a muslim country to form that conclusion?

Fark's islamologist logic:
1 obscure pastor burns a koran,
Reaction > "All chritians and jews are evil scum, deport (or kill) them."

100,000,000 muslims commit hundreds of acts of terrorism, violence, assist in stoning hangings and rapes
Reaction > "Isolated incident!!, but did you see what that one Christian/Jewish guy did?"


You know, you might have had a valid point if, in fact, 100,000,000 muslims were committing hundreds* of acts of terrorism, etc. But, since that's not the case, you just look like a fkucing idiot.

*How do 100 million Muslims commit hundreds of acts? Is that hundreds of acts *each*, or are they really, really, lazy and inept, and even with 100 million, can only get their shiat together hundreds of times?
 
2012-09-18 11:58:19 AM

modesto: It's funny how people from a country with incredibly high rates of violence and incarceration, and something like 200 bases in 80 countries, can be so quick to condemn others as violent radicals. Carry on tho.


Yep because we are happy about the incredibly high rates of violence here, and never criticize it. You obviously have a a very sharp mind. :)
 
2012-09-18 11:58:49 AM

WhoGAS: I like that they have an article like this. It's nice to see the perspective of non-retarded muslims.


So, most of them.
 
2012-09-18 11:59:21 AM
My Thanksgiving stuffing doesn't taste right. #NEEDSMORESAGE
 
2012-09-18 11:59:29 AM
 
2012-09-18 12:00:11 PM

ThrobblefootSpectre: modesto: It's funny how people from a country with incredibly high rates of violence and incarceration, and something like 200 bases in 80 countries, can be so quick to condemn others as violent radicals. Carry on tho.

Yep because we are happy about the incredibly high rates of violence here, and never criticize it. You obviously have a a very sharp mind. :)


Go read up on "Plankeye syndrome"
 
2012-09-18 12:00:53 PM

OnlyM3: 100,000,000 muslims commit hundreds of acts of terrorism


How exactly do 100 million Muslims commit hundreds of acts of terrorism? That would be one million Muslims actually committing each act! How do they coordinate it? Set up all the logistics? How do they divide up the roles among a million active participants? That must be a big planning room!
 
2012-09-18 12:01:51 PM
eldezod beat me to it!
 
2012-09-18 12:02:29 PM

atomicmask: JackieRabbit: We simply must come up with a perverse sex act to call "a Muslim Rage".

It already exists, it is where you toss a bed sheet over your partner, punch them in the mouth, then fark a goat afterwards all the while screaming about dominating the world.


People sitting in their offices working isn't a news story.
People shooting RPGs at an ambassador is.
 
2012-09-18 12:02:58 PM

atomicmask: susansto-helit: atomicmask: susansto-helit: atomicmask: Agreed to an arranged marriage at 45, find out wife is 10, to old for me! #muslimrage

Decaf. Look into it.

/the Twitter jokes were funny, Frances

muslim pedophilia and arranged marriages, look into it.

You're talking to someone who has been a women's and children's rights activist for more than a decade. Historically, we're humorless types. When even I think you're shiatting all over an otherwise humorous thread, believe me, you're shiatting all over an otherwise humorous thread. 

/Frances

I am shiatting all over muslims, because i do not find the nazi`esque ideology funny, nor do I find the lame attempts at humor to mask an overall general evil in their culture funny. Don't like it, you can piss off.


Muslim "Nazi-esque" ideology? As opposed to 'Murrican breast-beating flag-waving mouth-breathing inbred impotent "Mexicans go home" "Obama wants to take our guns" "blacks were happier as slaves" ideology?

/sock-puppet
 
2012-09-18 12:04:26 PM
As stupid a thing as that video is and how reprehensible I find its release, I would never allow the government to silence speech because a religious minority demands it. This is my reason:
upload.wikimedia.org

Trey Parker, Matt Stone, and Robert Lopez: true defenders of freedom
 
2012-09-18 12:04:54 PM
img.photobucket.com
 
2012-09-18 12:04:56 PM

flucto: "Lost your kid Jihad at the airport. Can't yell for him. - #MuslimRage"

now that's funny


Agreed

I said ROFLMAO on the Internet, but in reality I just smirked.
 
2012-09-18 12:05:51 PM
Daughter was raped, had to honor kill her. It' really a shame. #muslimrage
 
2012-09-18 12:06:02 PM
Most of the violence is directed at other Muslims. I don't think they are too happy about it either.
 
2012-09-18 12:06:07 PM

give me doughnuts: atomicmask: JackieRabbit: We simply must come up with a perverse sex act to call "a Muslim Rage".

It already exists, it is where you toss a bed sheet over your partner, punch them in the mouth, then fark a goat afterwards all the while screaming about dominating the world.

People sitting in their offices working isn't a news story.
People shooting RPGs at an ambassador is.


Are these JRPG's or US RPG's?
 
2012-09-18 12:06:11 PM

Steve McQueen's Motorcycle: Private_Citizen: I read a good article that pointed out the media here focuses on the Muslim crazies, and ignores the moderates - even when those moderates are the majority.

It would be like Al Jazera saying the Westboro Baptist Church and the KKK spoke for all Americans. It may sell papers or drive pageviews - but it's deceptive, and it makes real dialog difficult.

Typical Westboro protest group turnout:

[www.theintelligencer.net image 410x308]

Typical KKK rally turnout:

[cubiyanqui.files.wordpress.com image 300x238]

Just the latest, weekly Muslim rage turnout:

[static.ibnlive.in.com image 630x420]


i suppose the facts that westboro baptist is a tiny church and the kkk faded into irrelevancy several decades ago, while there are about a billion and a half muslims in this world, would have something to do with that seemingly lopsided turnout
 
2012-09-18 12:07:15 PM

cameroncrazy1984: Go read up on "Plankeye syndrome"


So if we criticize violence at home, that makes us hypocrites for criticizing violence any where else? I see this more as a violent person vs non-violent person issue. Not U.S. vs. Evil muslim country like you do. So yeah, I will criticize violence. You will defend it.
 
2012-09-18 12:07:44 PM
An aweful lot of people here are focusing on the violence aspect. Not trolling, but I wonder who has a higher civilian body count: foreign militaries on Muslim soil, or Muslim extremists on foreign soil (hint: it's not even close).

/Please note many civilian deaths in Muslim countries are caused by Muslim extremists. Which is why the majority of Muslims don't like the extremists - but are scared to speak out.
 
2012-09-18 12:08:23 PM

gja: JackieRabbit: We simply must come up with a perverse sex act to call "a Muslim Rage".

The beast with 2 Burkhas?


I don't think he was talking about your mom
 
2012-09-18 12:09:49 PM

Snowflake Tubbybottom: Daughter was raped, had to honor kill her. It' really a shame. #muslimrage


I don't think you actually understand the joke.
 
2012-09-18 12:10:55 PM

atomicmask: "But it seems there is no consensus on just what incites rage these days."

Only among the willfully blind and ignorant, to everyone else it is extremely clear what incites muslim rage these days. Criticizing allah, mohammed, or islam itself.

Wow look! A bunch of muslims wrote corny jokes about minor details of their religion! HA HA they are a fun loving group are they not? Wait none of them actually said it was alright to draw mohammed if you are a non-muslim or that we have freedom of speech.


Umm the whole point of the original rage is that drawing likenesses of Mohammed (or any person really, I believe you will see very few faces in Islamic art) is forebidden in their culture. Muslims arent supposed to draw Mohammed. I think most non-extremist Muslims probably just take care that they are following their faith (and they can laugh about it) and dont get up in arms about what non-muslims do or else you would have seen more Muslims protesting this week.
 
2012-09-18 12:11:04 PM

Girion47: give me doughnuts: atomicmask: JackieRabbit: We simply must come up with a perverse sex act to call "a Muslim Rage".

It already exists, it is where you toss a bed sheet over your partner, punch them in the mouth, then fark a goat afterwards all the while screaming about dominating the world.

People sitting in their offices working isn't a news story.
People shooting RPGs at an ambassador is.

Are these JRPG's or US RPG's?


Soviet-designed RPG-7s, mostly. Shape-charges wth a self-forging copper penetrater.
 
2012-09-18 12:11:45 PM
"Ajeez hoksild hokypoky i saqkdh c havegas d hhdjsahydff llallak sks lalmlah ahahaa jsu! In jebus' name, Amen." #HolyRollerRage
 
2012-09-18 12:13:21 PM
Joe Blowme

I can't help notice you haven't answered modesto's question; Were in the region as a military contractor, oil guy, or for some other reason? It seems like the answer to that would be highly relevant to the kind of relationship you would have with the locals.
 
2012-09-18 12:13:57 PM

indig0c0gnito: "Ajeez hoksild hokypoky i saqkdh c havegas d hhdjsahydff llallak sks lalmlah ahahaa jsu! In jebus' name, Amen." #HolyRollerRage


Less spittle; more snakes.
 
2012-09-18 12:14:26 PM
The moving finger writes: and, having writ, moves on. #MUSLIMSAGE
 
2012-09-18 12:15:01 PM

Heron: Zarquon's Flat Tire: I thought a rage was the name for a group of Muslims. Like a prude of Christians, a flow of Taoists, or a bank of Jews.

This joke is excellent. You are excellent.



Don't forget a void of atheists and a bellyfull of Bhuddists.
 
2012-09-18 12:15:20 PM

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: Hermione


I was a little high when I wrote that.
 
2012-09-18 12:16:32 PM

atomicmask: You are either willfully stupid, or just cursed with it. Yes, it is alright, especially when said civilians are willing human shields for said militants. Especially when said civilians support the militants. Now you can argue all you like, but ample proof exists that they DO support and endorse the extremists, because the Imams do.

From a gallop pole on the issue

"How much fervor: Gallup polled over 50,000 Muslims across 10 countries and found that, if one defines radicals as those who deemed the 9/11 attacks "completely justified," their number constitutes about 7 percent of the total population. But if one includes Muslims who considered the attacks "largely justified," their ranks jump to 13.5 percent. Adding those who deemed the attacks "somewhat justified" boosts the number of radicals to 36.6 percent."

Now it is safe to assume that quite a few muslims did not tell the truth, perhaps fearing persecution, so I would gage that somewhat justified number at way, way higher.


Why not just include all the Muslims who don't consider the attacks "absolutely unjustified" because they're either with us or against us, right? That way you can get the number north of 50% instead of just imagining that it's "way, way higher" because of your keen Spidey Muzzie sense.

So, congratulations; you've proved some Muslims, perhaps even many Muslims believe stupid things. These people live in third world conditions where their state controlled media uses the US and Israel as a scapegoat for their problems. When these societies throw off the dictators that have oppressed them for 70 years you aren't patient about their first tentative steps towards democracy where mistakes will surely be made, instead you conclude they are incapable of civilization. Your answer to this isn't to try and open up those societies to modernization, but to write them off as hopeless savages. 

PS: Next time you want to pass off Daniel Pipes thinking as your own, you might want to change a few words so that a 5 second google search doesn't reveal your plagarism.
 
2012-09-18 12:18:34 PM

lostcat: atomicmask: pute kisses like a man: people seem to use this term freedom of speech. wtf does it have to do with anything?

why on earth would anyone else give a flying fark about our constitutional protections? it's just the way this country does it, it's not some mandate from the law of the universe. no one else has to give a flying fark about freedom of speech, plus, it only protects you from government censorship... it doesn't protect you from being an ass and pissing people off

You have no concept about the law, or its intended purpose or meaning. It does not protect us from pissing people off, it protects us from violence because we pissed someone off. It is that whole "Civilized society" thing we got going for us. The law exists to protect the few from the many and the weak from the strong. Why on earth should we care if we offend people half way around the world?

The First Amendment protects individuals from laws passed that would restrict what we are allowed to say. It was intended more to let citizens speak out against the government, than to allow people to say whatever they want about any topic.

The freedom of speech also does not include:

- Speech that contains "fighting words" (insulting or abusive language that is likely to cause "an immediate violent response");
- Obscenities;
- Language or communication directed to inciting, producing or urging the commission of a crime;
- Defamation - words or communication that are false and untrue and are intended to injure the character and reputation of another person;
- Abusive, obscene or harassing telephone calls;
- Loud speech and loud noise meant by volume to disturb others or to create a clear and present danger of violence.


I've bolded the relevant point above, which is that saying something that results in the commission of a crime is not protected speech.

Producing a video with the sole intent to disturb shiat, possibly getting American citizens killed, is just willfully negligent, if not cri ...


Seconded. Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes presided over the famous Schenck "yelling fire in a crowded theater" case, and he was famously conservative. If someone just hoping to see commotion could get jail for starting a fatal stampede, then what of a fanatic hoping to start a religious war?
 
2012-09-18 12:21:36 PM
Men with whiskers 'neath their noses oughta kiss like Eskimoses. #BURMARAGE
 
2012-09-18 12:22:48 PM

give me doughnuts: Girion47: give me doughnuts: atomicmask: JackieRabbit: We simply must come up with a perverse sex act to call "a Muslim Rage".

It already exists, it is where you toss a bed sheet over your partner, punch them in the mouth, then fark a goat afterwards all the while screaming about dominating the world.

People sitting in their offices working isn't a news story.
People shooting RPGs at an ambassador is.

Are these JRPG's or US RPG's?

Soviet-designed RPG-7s, mostly. Shape-charges wth a self-forging copper penetrater.


Oh. So World of Tanks?
 
2012-09-18 12:23:32 PM
Now that my buzz is gone...

I think it's long past time we stopped judging Muslims or whoever by the worst of the people in their society. It would be like everybody judging America by the KKK.

We have to stop listening to the derp and start listening to the reasonable folks.
 
2012-09-18 12:23:38 PM

give me doughnuts: Girion47: give me doughnuts: atomicmask: JackieRabbit: We simply must come up with a perverse sex act to call "a Muslim Rage".

It already exists, it is where you toss a bed sheet over your partner, punch them in the mouth, then fark a goat afterwards all the while screaming about dominating the world.

People sitting in their offices working isn't a news story.
People shooting RPGs at an ambassador is.

Are these JRPG's or US RPG's?

Soviet-designed RPG-7s, mostly. Shape-charges wth a self-forging copper penetrater.


Everyone knows that FF7 was the most overrated game of all time.
 
2012-09-18 12:24:05 PM
My horse team has the runs again. #AmishRage
 
2012-09-18 12:26:19 PM

Rik01: That's kind of funny. Though it would be nice if the Media displayed more such normal Muslims than the riled up, insane ones they like to splash all over the news.


"Normal" muslims aren't news.

modesto: Oh yeah? Military, or oil? Just wondering which kind of compound you lived on that stopped you from interacting with locals.

I apologize if you're not lying, but if so, you must have been sequestered to have such a ridiculously black and white view of a complex society.

I could say that the guys running drones bombing weddings represent america, but that would be a bit of an oversimplificaiton, no


You know a lot of loacals in Egypt that were against the deathpenalty for blasphemy? Cause pew polls ont eh subject woudl say you are full of shiat.
 
2012-09-18 12:27:26 PM

liam76: Rik01: That's kind of funny. Though it would be nice if the Media displayed more such normal Muslims than the riled up, insane ones they like to splash all over the news.

"Normal" muslims aren't news.

modesto: Oh yeah? Military, or oil? Just wondering which kind of compound you lived on that stopped you from interacting with locals.

I apologize if you're not lying, but if so, you must have been sequestered to have such a ridiculously black and white view of a complex society.

I could say that the guys running drones bombing weddings represent america, but that would be a bit of an oversimplificaiton, no

You know a lot of loacals in Egypt that were against the deathpenalty for blasphemy? Cause pew polls ont eh subject woudl say you are full of shiat.


is spelling just too difficult for you?
 
2012-09-18 12:27:34 PM

Hermione_Granger: The tipping point has begun.

People can only be broke, pissed off and angry so long before they get tired of being sick and tired and just go look for the nearest party or make a joke out of anything.

Those two dudes jumping up and down in the back of pick-up just put down their AK-47's and said fark it, let's go chill. I even notice with this a lot white folks lately. They just don't have the energy or even the will to be as racist anymore. It's like fark it, come do the chicken dance and let's just be happy n******s, I mean buddy. And the black folks are like fark it, it's all good. And we drag along some Asians and Latinos for the party and the next thing you know everyone is like fark it, let's just smoke a joint and call it a farking day.

fark Obama, fark Romney, fark all them motha farkas in congress and parliament and dictatorships the world over. fark Wall Street, fark the mothafarkas blowing up and shootin up shiat.

The only way to end these crazy mothafarkas is to laugh them the fark out of existence.

fark it.


Your magazine, I would like to subscribe
 
2012-09-18 12:28:22 PM

Hermione_Granger: Now that my buzz is gone...

I think it's long past time we stopped judging Muslims or whoever by the worst of the people in their society. It would be like everybody judging America by the KKK.

We have to stop listening to the derp and start listening to the reasonable folks.


Haven't you been paying attention to atomicmask? There are no reasonable Muslims. I know what you're thinking; "I work with a Muslim guy, he seems nice enough" but that's what he wants you to believe. Beneath the surface, he seethes with rage at your stupid dhimmi face. You can't trust him because if you do then one day he'll invite you to dinner. You'll go to his house thinking about how evolved you are and how you're promoting cultural awareness and then BAM, the old fork in the eye.
 
2012-09-18 12:28:58 PM
you guys hating on strangers in another country know that "the news" is for entertainment purposes only, right?

it's not for forming opinions... that would be a mistake.
 
2012-09-18 12:28:59 PM
You scratched my anchor! #FlyingWASPRage
 
2012-09-18 12:29:27 PM
I'm just going to go ahead and say this: Mohammed is a dick. There, I said it. Sorry bastard always changes the price of stuff when I go into his Chevron.
 
2012-09-18 12:30:40 PM
Quick! The cameras are rolling! #MUSLIMRAGE
 
2012-09-18 12:31:35 PM
I've got a pounding head ache from reading the non-funny... #Hemorrhage
 
2012-09-18 12:32:35 PM

modesto: atomicmask: "But it seems there is no consensus on just what incites rage these days."

Only among the willfully blind and ignorant, to everyone else it is extremely clear what incites muslim rage these days. Criticizing allah, mohammed, or islam itself.

Wow look! A bunch of muslims wrote corny jokes about minor details of their religion! HA HA they are a fun loving group are they not? Wait none of them actually said it was alright to draw mohammed if you are a non-muslim or that we have freedom of speech.

Know how i know you're a frightened bigot who has haver been to the middle east?


I want to know, how?
 
2012-09-18 12:33:11 PM
Dunno... #AgnosticRage
 
2012-09-18 12:36:13 PM
lostcat:

I've bolded the relevant point above, which is that saying something that results in the commission of a crime is not protected speech.

Producing a video with the sole intent to disturb shiat, possibly getting American citizens killed, is just willfully negligent, if not criminal, and the asshole responsible should be facing charges.


That's all fine and good, but are you hypothesizing that the creator of the video INTENDED for Americans to get killed by virtue of his film? How can you say or know that unless you're...HIM.

Oh my God, that's it. Your HIM.

*mind blown*
 
2012-09-18 12:36:19 PM
atomicmask

...Please see Turkey, a secular muslim state. Or, perhaps Malaysia or Indonesia...

Ok
_____________
Turkey

ISTANBUL - A woman in the studio audience stands up and, with the spotlight highlighting her covered head, announces to the crowd that her husband abuses her but that she doesn't know how to react and still be a good Muslim.
...
The host of this popular Turkish TV show, "Islam in Our Life," Professor Faruk Beser, is - from his trimmed mustache to his tailored suit - the image of a modern, successful Turkish man. But as he approaches the woman, his answer is far from progressive.

Looking her in the eye, Beser urges the woman to "carry this pain within you and keep living with your husband,"

--and--
On July 2, 1993, after Friday prayers in the local Sunni mosques, a mob of at least 15,000 Islamic fundamentalists spent eight hours besieging a cultural festival that had mainly attracted members of the Alevi community,
--and--
In 1923 when the creation of Turkish Republic was proclaimed, at that time there were 200,000 Jews living on its territory, including 100,000 in Istanbul alone... the subsequent pogroms and persecution triggered a mass Jewish emigration, that reduced the Jewish community by 10 times

...In the 1970s - 1980s anti-Semitic sentiments in Turkey have increased. Anti-Jewish thesises were included even in the programs of some political parties....

...March 2005 the attention of Western media towards Turkey has been drawn due to the fact that the book of Adolf Hitler "Mein Kampf" (Kavgam), as reported by the network of D&R, for the first two months of 2005 has taken the 4th place as the best-selling book in Turkey....

--and--
A June 2008 report by Turkey's Human Rights Directorate says that in Istanbul alone, there is one honour killing every week
--and--
Government figures released in February suggest murders of women increased 14-fold in seven years, from 66 in 2002, to 953 in the first seven months of 2009. In the past seven months, one rights organization has compiled more than 264 cases - nearly one per day - reported in the press in which a woman was killed by a family member, husband, ex-husband, or partner
_____________
Malaysia

...Twenty-nine members of an Islamic sect were charged with treason for looting two army camps last month in the northern state of Perak. The attackers made off with rocket launchers, more than 100 assault rifles, and 1,000 rounds of ammunition. They seized four hostages -- torturing and killing two...
--and--
Eleven Christian churches, a Sikh temple and a mosque have been attacked in violence
--and--
...Malaysia - The Metro Tabernacle Church, a storefront with metal shutters, sits gutted, black smoke stains on the concrete pillars bearing witness to the intense fire that destroyed the property.

The attacks on this and more than a dozen other houses of worship in January...

...This year Malaysia has seen the firebombing or vandalizing of 11 churches, two Muslim prayer halls, a mosque, the offices of the Catholic newspaper's attorneys and a Sikh temple.

"It's not just an issue of religious tolerance; after all, mainstream Malaysians are pretty tolerant people," said Norani Othman, a sociologist and founding member of SIS Forum Malaysia, a Muslim women's organization. "The silent majority has kept silent while the government keeps pandering to a minority of loudmouths."...

--and--
Tian Chua, an opposition politician with the People's Justice Party, says the government made the situation worse by urging Muslims to take to the street in protest against the court's decision.
* which resulted in violence and arson.
--and--
...So while a non-Muslim husband can be charged for raping his wife, a Muslim husband will only charged with "ill-treatment of wife" under the Syariah Family Enactment.
--and--
A MALAYSIAN state plans to recruit "spies" from the public to snoop on unmarried lovers and report them to Islamic religious authorities.
The Terengganu State Government plans to enlist the part-time spies to look out for un-Islamic behaviour

_____________
Indonesia

Global Campaign to Stop Killing and Stoning Women! (SKSW Campaign) join their allies in Indonesia in continuing to call for the repeal of a law (or 'qanun') passed by the Aceh Legislative Council (DPRD) on Monday 14 September 2009, that expands the range of violent punishments for alleged moral and sexual transgressions, including stoning to death for "adultery" and 100 lashes for homosexuality.
--and--
When a girl is taken - usually by her mother - to a free circumcision event held each spring in Bandung, Indonesia, she is handed over to a small group of women who, swiftly and yet with apparent affection, cut off a small piece of her genitals
--and--
...officers belonging to a special Shariah police unit stop women on the street who do not have their head scarves properly adjusted and often impose fines. In some instances, women have been publicly whipped for being caught in public with men who are not their husbands...
--and--
Caned for adultery

...thousands died in a long-running insurgency....

...Television footage showed first the man and then the woman, both dressed in white, given nine and seven strokes respectively with a rattan stick on a platform surrounded by a jeering crowd in the compound of the Kasik Putih mosque...



So tolerant. So peaceful.
 
2012-09-18 12:37:03 PM

JackieRabbit: We simply must come up with a perverse sex act to call "a Muslim Rage".


Aladeen: I trust everything is in there as your manager requested.
Megan Fox: Katy Perry said she got a diamond Rolex.
Aladeen: That's because she let me aladeen #muslimrage in her face.
 
2012-09-18 12:37:46 PM

Girion47: is spelling just too difficult for you?


Nope, just typing.


Nick Spiceyweiner: modesto: atomicmask: "But it seems there is no consensus on just what incites rage these days."

Only among the willfully blind and ignorant, to everyone else it is extremely clear what incites muslim rage these days. Criticizing allah, mohammed, or islam itself.

Wow look! A bunch of muslims wrote corny jokes about minor details of their religion! HA HA they are a fun loving group are they not? Wait none of them actually said it was alright to draw mohammed if you are a non-muslim or that we have freedom of speech.

Know how i know you're a frightened bigot who has haver been to the middle east?

I want to know, how?


modesto is really dishing out a lot about his first hand knowledge of the ME without really explaining his knowledge.
 
2012-09-18 12:37:49 PM

OnlyM3: notatrollorami

>>> ...Remember all those riots and deaths when the piss-Christ thing was being trumpeted by
>>> the same crowd denouncing this film? ...

I think you started out with a direction in mind but ended up wildly swerving all over the damned road and careening into the ditch. In the aftermath no one can discern your original intent. It's a simple question and you can't comprehend it? Go upstairs, get the dog off your mom and ask her to explain it to you.


Whoa, boy, I guess I didn't realize I was out of my depth when I made fun of your muddled original post. How was I to have foretold the uniquely inspired rebuttal to come. Not only have you implied that I live in my parents basement but also, OMFGLOL, that my mother is into bestiality. Your razor sharp mind and rapier wit are simply too much for me; I yield in the face of your brilliance.

////I can only assume you're in high school; if that is the case please take a debate class.
 
2012-09-18 12:44:29 PM
My blanket isn't big enough to cover my shoulders and my feet at the same time. #coverage
 
2012-09-18 12:45:09 PM
i0.kym-cdn.com

#FACERAGE
 
2012-09-18 12:47:15 PM

whenIsayGO: atomicmask: I want them to say that non-muslims have that right, the same way jews think non-jews are alright to eat shellfish. I want them to admit that the rules of islam do not apply to everyone in the world, just to muslims.

This is something Christians need a little work on, too. I'm not offended if you want to silently judge my actions and laugh at me because you're so sure I'm going to hell, and I won't tell you to stop believing in things you want to believe, but please don't try to make your faith into law which I have to follow.


As an increasingly (hopefully) committed Christian, I totally agree. Even Jesus would agree with you. Christianity is freedom to believe what you want to believe, and forgiveness for your sins, if you are truly repentant.

I've lived with Jesus in my heart, and without. My only regret is not fully trusting him sooner.
 
2012-09-18 12:47:24 PM
How do Muslim women go swimming?

They wear a burkini. (No joke.)

http://www.google.com/search?q=burkini&tbm=isch
 
2012-09-18 12:49:43 PM

Heron: Bermuda59: We've had #FARKrage for year, just go to the Politics page

What's funny about that statement is that we Politics tabbers have been coming into relevant threads in other tabs trying to educate the rest of you about how all this wasn't caused by those videos since the day it happened. The one time we're more level-headed than the rest of you and none notice it...


Yeah, right... "wolf" he said.
 
2012-09-18 12:52:43 PM

susansto-helit: atomicmask: Agreed to an arranged marriage at 45, find out wife is 10, to old for me! #muslimrage

Decaf. Look into it.

/the Twitter jokes were funny, Frances


susansto-helit: atomicmask: susansto-helit: atomicmask: Agreed to an arranged marriage at 45, find out wife is 10, to old for me! #muslimrage

Decaf. Look into it.

/the Twitter jokes were funny, Frances

muslim pedophilia and arranged marriages, look into it.

You're talking to someone who has been a women's and children's rights activist for more than a decade. Historically, we're humorless types. When even I think you're shiatting all over an otherwise humorous thread, believe me, you're shiatting all over an otherwise humorous thread. 

/Frances


I thought the joke was funny, Frances. Slowly remove the stick from your buttocks.
 
2012-09-18 12:52:50 PM

OnlyM3: notatrollorami

>>> ...Remember all those riots and deaths when the piss-Christ thing was being trumpeted by
>>> the same crowd denouncing this film? ...

I think you started out with a direction in mind but ended up wildly swerving all over the damned road and careening into the ditch. In the aftermath no one can discern your original intent. It's a simple question and you can't comprehend it? Go upstairs, get the dog off your mom and ask her to explain it to you.


Seriously choked on my coffee. Friggin' hilarious.
 
2012-09-18 12:56:13 PM

Gone In 26 Minutes: give me doughnuts: Girion47: give me doughnuts: atomicmask: JackieRabbit: We simply must come up with a perverse sex act to call "a Muslim Rage".

It already exists, it is where you toss a bed sheet over your partner, punch them in the mouth, then fark a goat afterwards all the while screaming about dominating the world.

People sitting in their offices working isn't a news story.
People shooting RPGs at an ambassador is.

Are these JRPG's or US RPG's?

Soviet-designed RPG-7s, mostly. Shape-charges wth a self-forging copper penetrater.

Oh. So World of Tanks?


No. World of Burning Consular Vehicles With Dead State Department Personnel Inside.
 
2012-09-18 12:57:27 PM

Canton: Yeah, but that's not going to happen. Normal people are boring and don't get the ratings, right?


They also don't tend to run around killing people, so survival doesn't depend on staying clear of normal people as much.

/likes to know which are normal people and which are murdering thugs
//apparently this makes me a paranoid Islamophobe
 
2012-09-18 01:01:11 PM

Elegy: Abdul married an 8 year old! #MuslimHappiness

/just stirring the pot


So...WTF was up there? A drone? The ISS? An apparition of Muhammed?
 
2012-09-18 01:02:59 PM
Construction keeps me out of my favourite drinking establishment. #barrage

Thunderstorms every day of my vacation in France. #horage

I think that pic of the Russian space station is fake. #mirage

I've been around long enough that it's legal for me to take nude picture of myself. #image
 
2012-09-18 01:03:55 PM

Porous Horace: I think that pic of the Russian space station is fake. #mirage


Its not a mirage #sabotage
 
2012-09-18 01:08:57 PM
Shoving the clogs my parents think I'm too young to wear into the lawnmower. #sabotage

I'm old enough to wear patterns - why must my mom fuss over my clothes? #dotage
 
2012-09-18 01:09:58 PM

OnlyM3: atomicmask

...Please see Turkey, a secular muslim state. Or, perhaps Malaysia or Indonesia...
Ok
_____________
Turkey

ISTANBUL - A woman in the studio audience stands up and, with the spotlight highlighting her covered head, announces to the crowd that her husband abuses her but that she doesn't know how to react and still be a good Muslim.
...
The host of this popular Turkish TV show, "Islam in Our Life," Professor Faruk Beser, is - from his trimmed mustache to his tailored suit - the image of a modern, successful Turkish man. But as he approaches the woman, his answer is far from progressive.

Looking her in the eye, Beser urges the woman to "carry this pain within you and keep living with your husband,"
--and--
On July 2, 1993, after Friday prayers in the local Sunni mosques, a mob of at least 15,000 Islamic fundamentalists spent eight hours besieging a cultural festival that had mainly attracted members of the Alevi community,
--and--
In 1923 when the creation of Turkish Republic was proclaimed, at that time there were 200,000 Jews living on its territory, including 100,000 in Istanbul alone... the subsequent pogroms and persecution triggered a mass Jewish emigration, that reduced the Jewish community by 10 times

...In the 1970s - 1980s anti-Semitic sentiments in Turkey have increased. Anti-Jewish thesises were included even in the programs of some political parties....

...March 2005 the attention of Western media towards Turkey has been drawn due to the fact that the book of Adolf Hitler "Mein Kampf" (Kavgam), as reported by the network of D&R, for the first two months of 2005 has taken the 4th place as the best-selling book in Turkey....
--and--
A June 2008 report by Turkey's Human Rights Directorate says that in Istanbul alone, there is one honour killing every week
--and--
Government figures released in February suggest murders of women increased 14-fold in seven years, from 66 in 2002, to 953 in the first seven months of 2009. In the past seven months, ...


The sad thing is, these ARE the best examples of westernized and modern muslim nations. If people notice, when muslims immigrate they do not try to update themselves, they just try to tear down and create as equal of shiat hole as where ever they just left.
 
2012-09-18 01:10:20 PM

atomicmask: susansto-helit: atomicmask: susansto-helit: atomicmask: Agreed to an arranged marriage at 45, find out wife is 10, to old for me! #muslimrage

Decaf. Look into it.

/the Twitter jokes were funny, Frances

muslim pedophilia and arranged marriages, look into it.

You're talking to someone who has been a women's and children's rights activist for more than a decade. Historically, we're humorless types. When even I think you're shiatting all over an otherwise humorous thread, believe me, you're shiatting all over an otherwise humorous thread. 

/Frances

I am shiatting all over muslims, because i do not find the nazi`esque ideology funny, nor do I find the lame attempts at humor to mask an overall general evil in their culture funny. Don't like it, you can piss off.


Aren't you edgy and cool.
 
2012-09-18 01:11:22 PM

Hickory-smoked: Snowflake Tubbybottom: Daughter was raped, had to honor kill her. It' really a shame. #muslimrage

I don't think you actually understand the joke.


I would go with:
Dislocated my shoulder stoning a rape victim. #muslimrage
 
2012-09-18 01:12:29 PM
Being Moslam myself, I'm getting a ki...wait.. a RAGE OUT OF THIS!!!
 
2012-09-18 01:13:02 PM

give me doughnuts: Girion47: give me doughnuts: atomicmask: JackieRabbit: We simply must come up with a perverse sex act to call "a Muslim Rage".

It already exists, it is where you toss a bed sheet over your partner, punch them in the mouth, then fark a goat afterwards all the while screaming about dominating the world.

People sitting in their offices working isn't a news story.
People shooting RPGs at an ambassador is.

Are these JRPG's or US RPG's?

Soviet-designed RPG-7s, mostly. Shape-charges wth a self-forging copper penetrater.


Meh, let me know when they manage to get PPGs.
 
2012-09-18 01:13:19 PM
It's impressive how this topic once exposed to Fark quickly went from 'We're all human on the inside tongue-in-cheek' to 'This is what herp actually bederp'.
 
2012-09-18 01:13:43 PM

LowbrowDeluxe: atomicmask: susansto-helit: atomicmask: susansto-helit: atomicmask: Agreed to an arranged marriage at 45, find out wife is 10, to old for me! #muslimrage

Decaf. Look into it.

/the Twitter jokes were funny, Frances

muslim pedophilia and arranged marriages, look into it.

You're talking to someone who has been a women's and children's rights activist for more than a decade. Historically, we're humorless types. When even I think you're shiatting all over an otherwise humorous thread, believe me, you're shiatting all over an otherwise humorous thread. 

/Frances

I am shiatting all over muslims, because i do not find the nazi`esque ideology funny, nor do I find the lame attempts at humor to mask an overall general evil in their culture funny. Don't like it, you can piss off.

Aren't you edgy and cool.


Who is trying to be Edgy, I am telling the truth. Sorry to ruin your PC happy we are the world everybody hold hands and kiss ass moment, but islam is a cancer.
 
2012-09-18 01:14:51 PM

modesto: Tech folks, is there any way I can show where I'm connecting from?

Oh forget it. Carry on being simple minded and afraid.


This will do it, if you're still interested.
 
2012-09-18 01:19:25 PM

TrixieDelite: Elegy: Abdul married an 8 year old! #MuslimHappiness

/just stirring the pot

So...WTF was up there? A drone? The ISS? An apparition of Muhammed?


Meh, wish I had a witty reply just for you. But I don't. I just wanted to subtly point out that #MuslimRage looks surprisingly similar to #MuslimHappiness, all while providing the deliciously xenophobic image of a bunch of swarthy, turbaned men hanging out in a walled villa with their mercedes and beemers, firing their automatic weapons into the air for no good reason.

/as I said, stirring the pot just to stir
//What a boring day at work
 
2012-09-18 01:20:46 PM
no more italian food!? #suasage
 
2012-09-18 01:22:07 PM
My braids are too tight and this dirt keeps getting on my hooves. #dressage
 
2012-09-18 01:22:25 PM
Next time there is a thread where people are bashing Christians and someone objects, I'll just use this:

I am shiatting all over muslimsChristians, because i do not find the nazi`esque ideology funny, nor do I find the lame attempts at humor to mask an overall general evil in their culture funny. Don't like it, you can piss off.


Good for the goose...
 
2012-09-18 01:22:51 PM

OnlyM3: atomicmask

...Please see Turkey, a secular muslim state. Or, perhaps Malaysia or Indonesia...
Ok
_____________
Turkey

ISTANBUL - A woman in the studio audience stands up and, with the spotlight highlighting her covered head, announces to the crowd that her husband abuses her but that she doesn't know how to react and still be a good Muslim.
...
The host of this popular Turkish TV show, "Islam in Our Life," Professor Faruk Beser, is - from his trimmed mustache to his tailored suit - the image of a modern, successful Turkish man. But as he approaches the woman, his answer is far from progressive.

Looking her in the eye, Beser urges the woman to "carry this pain within you and keep living with your husband,"


Wow, that sounds just like the Baltimore judge who refused to grant a restraining order for a woman who was being beaten by her husband because he questioned her motives.

--and--
On July 2, 1993, after Friday prayers in the local Sunni mosques, a mob of at least 15,000 Islamic fundamentalists spent eight hours besieging a cultural festival that had mainly attracted members of the Alevi community,


Wow, that sounds just like the protests held at the "Ground Zero Mosque" or the EDL, or the protest in California where protestors called Muslims terrorists and told them to go home.

--and--
In 1923 when the creation of Turkish Republic was proclaimed, at that time there were 200,000 Jews living on its territory, including 100,000 in Istanbul alone... the subsequent pogroms and persecution triggered a mass Jewish emigration, that reduced the Jewish community by 10 times
..In the 1970s - 1980s anti-Semitic sentiments in Turkey have increased. Anti-Jewish thesises were included even in the programs of some political parties....

...March 2005 the attention of Western media towards Turkey has been drawn due to the fact that the book of Adolf Hitler "Mein Kampf" (Kavgam), as reported by the network of D&R, for the first two months of 2005 has taken the 4th place as the best-selling book in Turkey....


No non-Muslim has ever persecuted Jews. Regarding Mein Kampf, it appears that between 50 - 100K books were sold in early 2005 at a time when sales of the book were soaring across Europe. There are nearly 80 million people in Turkey so we're talking about at worst 1/10th of 1% of the population.

--and--
A June 2008 report by Turkey's Human Rights Directorate says that in Istanbul alone, there is one honour killing every week
--and--
Government figures released in February suggest murders of women increased 14-fold in seven years, from 66 in 2002, to 953 in the first seven months of 2009. In the past seven months, ...


And what are the figures for domestic violence deaths in the US?

Remember, kids, if you can find a handful of examples of despicable behavior by Muslims it means that all Muslims are backwards savages.
 
2012-09-18 01:24:25 PM
meatball sub sammiches. #pastafarianrage
 
2012-09-18 01:26:02 PM

Stile4aly: OnlyM3: atomicmask

...Please see Turkey, a secular muslim state. Or, perhaps Malaysia or Indonesia...
Ok
_____________
Turkey

ISTANBUL - A woman in the studio audience stands up and, with the spotlight highlighting her covered head, announces to the crowd that her husband abuses her but that she doesn't know how to react and still be a good Muslim.
...
The host of this popular Turkish TV show, "Islam in Our Life," Professor Faruk Beser, is - from his trimmed mustache to his tailored suit - the image of a modern, successful Turkish man. But as he approaches the woman, his answer is far from progressive.

Looking her in the eye, Beser urges the woman to "carry this pain within you and keep living with your husband,"

Wow, that sounds just like the Baltimore judge who refused to grant a restraining order for a woman who was being beaten by her husband because he questioned her motives.

--and--
On July 2, 1993, after Friday prayers in the local Sunni mosques, a mob of at least 15,000 Islamic fundamentalists spent eight hours besieging a cultural festival that had mainly attracted members of the Alevi community,

Wow, that sounds just like the protests held at the "Ground Zero Mosque" or the EDL, or the protest in California where protestors called Muslims terrorists and told them to go home.

--and--
In 1923 when the creation of Turkish Republic was proclaimed, at that time there were 200,000 Jews living on its territory, including 100,000 in Istanbul alone... the subsequent pogroms and persecution triggered a mass Jewish emigration, that reduced the Jewish community by 10 times
..In the 1970s - 1980s anti-Semitic sentiments in Turkey have increased. Anti-Jewish thesises were included even in the programs of some political parties....

...March 2005 the attention of Western media towards Turkey has been drawn due to the fact that the book of Adolf Hitler "Mein Kampf" (Kavgam), as reported by the network of D&R, for the first two months of 2005 has taken the 4th place ...


Remember kids, if someone finds evidence that your magical skewed view of muslims are wrong, and that the most "cultured" of muslim societies is still back assward and violent, you only need to divert the attention to christians or the united states! Don't rethink your position, change the subject!

You also forget the part that our government punishes individuals for domestic violence in the united states, in islamic nations the government looks the other way or condones it, because islam says a married woman is property and no such thing as rape exists between a husband a wife.
 
2012-09-18 01:26:24 PM
Muslims

Like

Nickleback
 
2012-09-18 01:27:19 PM

atomicmask: The sad thing is, these ARE the best examples of westernized and modern muslim nations. If people notice, when muslims immigrate they do not try to update themselves, they just try to tear down and create as equal of shiat hole as where ever they just left.


Yes, I know. I live in constant fear of my Somali Muslim neighbors. Why, just last week they brought over a plate of food for me, and they were full of smiles and kind words. I'm sure they're just lulling me into a false sense of security before coming over to behead me one night. Or the Muslim guy around the corner who I always see helping his neighbor fix up his car. He's probably planting bombs to use it in a suicide run.
 
2012-09-18 01:29:23 PM
I love being a cowboy! #homeontherange
I love being a frying pan! #homeontherange
Nobody wants to rhyme with me. #orange
I hate my buggy! #carraige
Who's driving the boat? I can't tell from down here. #steerage
Mad cow. #steerage
I hate my equals. #peerage
 
2012-09-18 01:30:12 PM

buckler: atomicmask: The sad thing is, these ARE the best examples of westernized and modern muslim nations. If people notice, when muslims immigrate they do not try to update themselves, they just try to tear down and create as equal of shiat hole as where ever they just left.

Yes, I know. I live in constant fear of my Somali Muslim neighbors. Why, just last week they brought over a plate of food for me, and they were full of smiles and kind words. I'm sure they're just lulling me into a false sense of security before coming over to behead me one night. Or the Muslim guy around the corner who I always see helping his neighbor fix up his car. He's probably planting bombs to use it in a suicide run.


Have you ever bothered to ask them what they think about sharia law, or if they want to see it spread to your neighborhood? What about what they think about the way your wife dresses? Ask them if they think rape can happen between a husband and wife.

Yes, they are good sweet people because they bring you food.
 
2012-09-18 01:33:59 PM

Stile4aly: Remember, kids, if you can find a handful of examples of despicable behavior by Muslims it means that all Muslims are backwards savages


A handful of examples of despicable behavior by Muslims doesn't mean that all Muslims are backwards savages.

The lack of a non-fundamentalist branch of Islam means it is far easier to get Muslims riled up over religion.

The widespread support on things like death for blasphemy means it is much harder for them to be part of or accept western society.
 
2012-09-18 01:35:21 PM
I've used up all my anger. #outrage
Angry because my kid told me he's gay. #outrage
That pig keeps sniffing me. #snoutrage
 
2012-09-18 01:36:28 PM
energy from crystals. #newage
 
2012-09-18 01:39:01 PM
www.pixeljoint.com

#MONKEYRAGE
 
2012-09-18 01:43:32 PM
img.karaoke-lyrics.net

#AGAINSTTHEMACHINERAGE
 
2012-09-18 01:44:17 PM
Gee, things have slowed down.
Is WOW back up?
 
2012-09-18 01:45:22 PM

atomicmask: Have you ever bothered to ask them what they think about sharia law, or if they want to see it spread to your neighborhood? What about what they think about the way your wife dresses? Ask them if they think rape can happen between a husband and wife.

Yes, they are good sweet people because they bring you food.


No, I haven't asked them about those things, and they haven't asked those same questions of me; you see, we respect each others' privacy, and it's NONE OF MY GODDAMNED BUSINESS. I treat them the same way I treat anyone else, and they do the same. They are law-abiding, good people, and that's all I expect from anyone.
 
2012-09-18 01:45:26 PM

Nick Spiceyweiner: I'm just going to go ahead and say this: Mohammed is a dick. There, I said it. Sorry bastard always changes the price of stuff when I go into his Chevron.


and won't let me use my debit card for an item less than $5 #customerRAGE
 
2012-09-18 01:45:42 PM

atomicmask: Remember kids, if someone finds evidence that your magical skewed view of muslims are wrong, and that the most "cultured" of muslim societies is still back assward and violent, you only need to divert the attention to christians or the united states! Don't rethink your position, change the subject!

You also forget the part that our government punishes individuals for domestic violence in the united states, in islamic nations the government looks the other way or condones it, because islam says a married woman is property and no such thing as rape exists between a husband a wife.


You miss my point completely. I do not for a moment pretend that violence or backwards notions do not exist in the Muslim world. They indeed exist at a greater per-capita level than in the United States. Where we differ is that you conclude that these problems exist because the people involved are Muslims and that there is something terrible about Islam which causes people to be violent and backwards. I conclude that there must be other causes because these same violent tendencies and backwards notions can be found in non-Muslim countries including the US. You casually denigrate over a billion people because of the ridiculous beliefs and deplorable actions of a handful and yet when it's pointed out that the same beliefs and actions exist all over the world you hand wave it away.

Let's put this in the simplest possible terms; it is impossible that a large percentage of Muslims actively support terrorism because if they did it would be the largest army of Earth and we couldn't have this pleasant conversation.
 
2012-09-18 01:47:25 PM

Fooby: How do Muslim women go swimming?

They wear a burkini. (No joke.)

http://www.google.com/search?q=burkini&tbm=isch


I was thinking "in the water"? actually, they look like ninja suits..
 
2012-09-18 01:51:20 PM

buckler: atomicmask: Have you ever bothered to ask them what they think about sharia law, or if they want to see it spread to your neighborhood? What about what they think about the way your wife dresses? Ask them if they think rape can happen between a husband and wife.

Yes, they are good sweet people because they bring you food.

No, I haven't asked them about those things, and they haven't asked those same questions of me; you see, we respect each others' privacy, and it's NONE OF MY GODDAMNED BUSINESS. I treat them the same way I treat anyone else, and they do the same. They are law-abiding, good people, and that's all I expect from anyone.


That is sweet, would you be singing the same tune if you lived next door to a Klansmen?

Please stop basing your life and foreign policies off the "its a small world" ride at Disneyland.
 
2012-09-18 01:55:23 PM

atomicmask: buckler: atomicmask: Have you ever bothered to ask them what they think about sharia law, or if they want to see it spread to your neighborhood? What about what they think about the way your wife dresses? Ask them if they think rape can happen between a husband and wife.

Yes, they are good sweet people because they bring you food.

No, I haven't asked them about those things, and they haven't asked those same questions of me; you see, we respect each others' privacy, and it's NONE OF MY GODDAMNED BUSINESS. I treat them the same way I treat anyone else, and they do the same. They are law-abiding, good people, and that's all I expect from anyone.

That is sweet, would you be singing the same tune if you lived next door to a Klansmen?

Please stop basing your life and foreign policies off the "its a small world" ride at Disneyland.


Does it hurt to be so paranoid and afraid? It should.
 
2012-09-18 01:56:19 PM

Tatterdemalian: Canton: Yeah, but that's not going to happen. Normal people are boring and don't get the ratings, right?

They also don't tend to run around killing people, so survival doesn't depend on staying clear of normal people as much.

/likes to know which are normal people and which are murdering thugs
//apparently this makes me a paranoid Islamophobe


Yeah. It's hard to tell who's normal and who isn't sometimes. This is why I'm on the fence about concealed carry permits. Maybe that makes me an irrational anti-gun person, I don't know. But I will say this. Anecdotally, I have met quite a few openly Muslim people. I have taken classes with Muslims. (Michigan does in fact have a population outside of Dearborn.) I have eaten food prepared by Muslims. The Muslims I have met have been reasonable people who sometimes wear pretty head scarves.

I remain somewhat more worried about paranoid white dudes concealing hand guns and persecution complexes...

/Apparently that makes me a commie or something.
 
2012-09-18 01:56:50 PM
Please have a seat over there. #underage
 
2012-09-18 01:57:03 PM

Stile4aly: atomicmask: Remember kids, if someone finds evidence that your magical skewed view of muslims are wrong, and that the most "cultured" of muslim societies is still back assward and violent, you only need to divert the attention to christians or the united states! Don't rethink your position, change the subject!

You also forget the part that our government punishes individuals for domestic violence in the united states, in islamic nations the government looks the other way or condones it, because islam says a married woman is property and no such thing as rape exists between a husband a wife.

You miss my point completely. I do not for a moment pretend that violence or backwards notions do not exist in the Muslim world. They indeed exist at a greater per-capita level than in the United States. Where we differ is that you conclude that these problems exist because the people involved are Muslims and that there is something terrible about Islam which causes people to be violent and backwards. I conclude that there must be other causes because these same violent tendencies and backwards notions can be found in non-Muslim countries including the US. You casually denigrate over a billion people because of the ridiculous beliefs and deplorable actions of a handful and yet when it's pointed out that the same beliefs and actions exist all over the world you hand wave it away.

Let's put this in the simplest possible terms; it is impossible that a large percentage of Muslims actively support terrorism because if they did it would be the largest army of Earth and we couldn't have this pleasant conversation.


Actually it is not, you could have every muslim on earth support radical islam (a lot of them do, a few do not) because not every one is a combatant. SUPPORT does not mean "actively engage in it" but rather "Back them by upholding the standards and allowing them the means by which to pratice radical islam" How do they do that? It is rather easy..

1. Support islam itself, which in itself is a violent ideology.

2. Not reporting radical muslims or extremists to the authorities

3. Having authorities that are themselves radical muslims and extremists.

4. overthrowing dictators and in turn electing Radical muslim groups like the muslim brotherhood and hezbollah into positions of power.


you see, if the radicalist movement was so thin and in such a minority, they would not be able to gain so high of positions of power. Exactly how the klan has no power in America, exactly how The national socialist movement no longer has power in germany. And to make the example even more clear, when we invaded Nazi germany, we were hard pressed to find a "real" nazi also, even though everyone supported and loved the national socialist government during the good times, and loved being a nazi. If you allow said things to happen, and do nothing to speak out or try to inhibit the spread and rise to power of an extremist group, you in effect support them. Apathy is as bad as actively working for them.
 
2012-09-18 01:57:51 PM

buckler: atomicmask: buckler: atomicmask: Have you ever bothered to ask them what they think about sharia law, or if they want to see it spread to your neighborhood? What about what they think about the way your wife dresses? Ask them if they think rape can happen between a husband and wife.

Yes, they are good sweet people because they bring you food.

No, I haven't asked them about those things, and they haven't asked those same questions of me; you see, we respect each others' privacy, and it's NONE OF MY GODDAMNED BUSINESS. I treat them the same way I treat anyone else, and they do the same. They are law-abiding, good people, and that's all I expect from anyone.

That is sweet, would you be singing the same tune if you lived next door to a Klansmen?

Please stop basing your life and foreign policies off the "its a small world" ride at Disneyland.

Does it hurt to be so paranoid and afraid? It should.


Does it hurt that your best reply to what I say is to say that I am afraid?
 
2012-09-18 02:01:41 PM

atomicmask: That is sweet, would you be singing the same tune if you lived next door to a Klansmen?

Please stop basing your life and foreign policies off the "its a small world" ride at Disneyland.

Does it hurt to be so paranoid and afraid? It should.

Does it hurt that your best reply to what I say is to say that I am afraid?


Yes, it might bother me, because I tend to dislike specific individuals who denigrate and have an active and irrational fear and hatred of others.
 
2012-09-18 02:02:22 PM

Stile4aly: You miss my point completely. I do not for a moment pretend that violence or backwards notions do not exist in the Muslim world. They indeed exist at a greater per-capita level than in the United States. Where we differ is that you conclude that these problems exist because the people involved are Muslims and that there is something terrible about Islam which causes people to be violent and backwards. I conclude that there must be other causes because these same violent tendencies and backwards notions can be found in non-Muslim countries including the US.


No. The "same" beliefs and actions don't exist all over the world.

If it were they would all be the same religion.

Similiar actions happen, but they don't enjoy the same support.


You casually denigrate over a billion people because of the ridiculous beliefs and deplorable actions of a handful and yet when it's pointed out that the same beliefs and actions exist all over the world you hand wave it away.

It is far more than a handful.
 
2012-09-18 02:02:27 PM
China v Japan, Israel v Iran, Muslims v Christians...... this is turning into one hell of a year, and we got 3 more months to go.
 
2012-09-18 02:02:54 PM

Stile4aly: atomicmask: Remember kids, if someone finds evidence that your magical skewed view of muslims are wrong, and that the most "cultured" of muslim societies is still back assward and violent, you only need to divert the attention to christians or the united states! Don't rethink your position, change the subject!

You also forget the part that our government punishes individuals for domestic violence in the united states, in islamic nations the government looks the other way or condones it, because islam says a married woman is property and no such thing as rape exists between a husband a wife.

You miss my point completely. I do not for a moment pretend that violence or backwards notions do not exist in the Muslim world. They indeed exist at a greater per-capita level than in the United States. Where we differ is that you conclude that these problems exist because the people involved are Muslims and that there is something terrible about Islam which causes people to be violent and backwards. I conclude that there must be other causes because these same violent tendencies and backwards notions can be found in non-Muslim countries including the US. You casually denigrate over a billion people because of the ridiculous beliefs and deplorable actions of a handful and yet when it's pointed out that the same beliefs and actions exist all over the world you hand wave it away.

Let's put this in the simplest possible terms; it is impossible that a large percentage of Muslims actively support terrorism because if they did it would be the largest army of Earth and we couldn't have this pleasant conversation.


Islam is the problem, if you listen they will tell you so. Seeing it first hand and living arround it would give you a better perspective and understanding of how it truly is. You need to check out MEMRItv and see what they say to us in english then what they say when they think we are not listening. Maybe seek out a group of refugees that have lived under the yoke of islam and ask them to describe it.
 
2012-09-18 02:04:51 PM
Didn't catch a fish all day. #troutrage
The pouring part of my ewer's cracked. #spoutrage
That boor is getting on my nerves. #loutrage
 
2012-09-18 02:04:58 PM

buckler: atomicmask: That is sweet, would you be singing the same tune if you lived next door to a Klansmen?

Please stop basing your life and foreign policies off the "its a small world" ride at Disneyland.

Does it hurt to be so paranoid and afraid? It should.

Does it hurt that your best reply to what I say is to say that I am afraid?

Yes, it might bother me, because I tend to dislike specific individuals who denigrate and have an active and irrational fear and hatred of others.


You do not know what "irrational" means do you? Irrational implies we have not experienced muslim violence and hate before. irrational implies that we have no proof of it, such as, say...a book that clearly states a groups intended goals and desires and none of them are peaceful or tolerant.

You know, it is alright to lump people into groups when they actively admit to belonging to said groups and profess the ideals of said group to be their own.
 
2012-09-18 02:06:40 PM
My bathroom tiles are falling off the wall. #groutrage
Tears For Fears cancelled the concert. #shoutrage

And so on ...
 
2012-09-18 02:06:56 PM

liam76: Stile4aly: Remember, kids, if you can find a handful of examples of despicable behavior by Muslims it means that all Muslims are backwards savages

A handful of examples of despicable behavior by Muslims doesn't mean that all Muslims are backwards savages.


Thank you.

The lack of a non-fundamentalist branch of Islam means it is far easier to get Muslims riled up over religion.

I would disagree that there is no non-fundamentalist movement within Islam, but I think the problem is one of labels. Because Islam never had a Protestant movement resulting in a splintering of the core religious interpretations we're left with Sunni and Shia and clearly you can't bucket a billion+ people into two groups. So, there are certainly non-fundamentalists, but there is no central organization of them from a religious perspective, and I think this has more to do with economics than religion. Religious moderation seems to require the establishment of a middle class which barely exists across much of the Middle East.

The widespread support on things like death for blasphemy means it is much harder for them to be part of or accept western society.

I agree completely. I think this stems from and early failure of Islamic philosophy. During the Islamic golden age there was a practice called Ijtihad which was essentially a tradition of Islamic scholarship and secular analysis. One particular philopsopher, Al-Ghazali, made the argument that because philosophical arguments couldn't solve fundamental religious questions, that such arguments should be abandoned and people should rely on faith alone. This rejection of intellectualism is a root cause of many problems in the Islamic world today. If there were a 1400 year history of Islamic intellectualism and philosophy, then medieval ideas like the penalties for blasphemy or apostasy would have ceased to exist long ago.
 
2012-09-18 02:08:18 PM

cameroncrazy1984: WhoGAS: I like that they have an article like this. It's nice to see the perspective of non-retarded muslims.

So, most of them.


I don't know, I haven't counted them on either side but it's nice to see an article like this.
 
2012-09-18 02:16:29 PM
oh lordy. how many times do I have to tell you that there are lots of Muslims in the U.S. already and the vast majority of them are behaving themselves like anybody else?

I would like to download into Islamophobes brains the image I have of getting out of a gay bar one night, in the primary gay district of a large city, and seeing taxis lined up down the street waiting to pick up drunk people -- people drunk on alcohol -- many of whom are gay. And many of the taxi drivers are Muslim.

Somehow this works without the cabbie blowing up his yellow Crown Vic (or whatever they're driving these days) in front of the gay strip joint.
 
2012-09-18 02:16:50 PM

liam76:
modesto is really dishing out a lot about his first hand knowledge of the ME without really explaining his knowledge.

 

I know a few things:

1. The media portrayal of violence here is inaccurate and overblown. I live a few blocks from Tahrir and when there has been clashes over the last 1.5 years, I have had to adjust to this crazy duality where there is stone and molotov and tear gas throwing a few blocks away, but on my street (and all other points in this vast city) people are going about normal life: eating, shopping, smoking, drinking. People do get hurt and I am not arguing that Egypt doesn't have a long way to go to stability, but the picture you see that make it look like Cairo is burning give a false impression. Fights are within a two or three block radius. This was the case last weekend. Which leads me to-

2. Most people couldn't give two shiats about this film, and many are angry and ashamed of the (again....VERY few) who made a big deal out of it, and how they knew it would play on TV and make "Egypt" look. Admittedly, my sample is not huge here. That attitude was certainly the consensus amongst my dozen or so local friends, and amplified ad nauseum on social media. Also, a cab driver passing by the clashes on my way home (after asking me about the roads in america, and saying what good people we are....you get that a lot) shook his head and said "stupid." I add this because taxi drivers are notoriously reliable bellwethers of all things political here. So am I tapped in to the pulse of Egypt and the Middle East? No. But I think the extremely small support that these protests could muster speaks volumes.

3. This stuff is complex. There are a lot more variables than christian vs. islam, arabs vs. americans. Also, being opposed to American foreign policy in the region does not equal OMG KILL THE INFIDELS!!!. These people have lived through six decades of authoritarian rule where you were tortured and disappeared if you stepped out of line. That could not have been the case without US support. That's not debatable; it's just true. Say what you want about Camp David and the Arab Spring etc. etc. and whether the whole thing is/was worthwhile, but the 300,000 strong army of riot police that is still in place here to keep the people compliant? They might as well have "Made in the USA" stamped on their batons, because that's where the money and supplies come from. It should not come as a surprise that there is anti-american sentiment. We reap what we sow. Again, for 99.9999% of Egyptians, this is, if anything, a political issue, not a rationale for violence. Beyond that, there are huge economic issues and unemployment....trash everywhere.....water and electricity shortages....a whole lot of things that make the situation ripe for radicals to mobilize angry young men. This stuff happens for a reason. And the reason is not GOOD vs. EVIL or "they hate our freedoms" as perceived in the Bushian school of black and white.

But nuance and perspective do not make good TV, so instead the radicals get their pulpit. Stupid youtube video is fuel for an idiot sheikh to get a few people to go to the embassy and burn a flag. Flag burning gets played over and over again in America, so all muslims are fanatics. A few wackos take that to heart and make a stupid youtube video or cartoon. Rinse, repeat. Entertainment!
 
2012-09-18 02:18:14 PM

Stile4aly: I would disagree that there is no non-fundamentalist movement within Islam


What branch of Islam doesn't take the Koran as the direct word of God?

This is one of the huge problesm with Islam when contrasted with Christianity. The other is that the main prophet you are supposed to be like was a pedo warlord, vice a dirty hippy.

Stile4aly: I think the problem is one of labels. Because Islam never had a Protestant movement resulting in a splintering of the core religious interpretations we're left with Sunni and Shia and clearly you can't bucket a billion+ people into two groups. So, there are certainly non-fundamentalists, but there is no central organization of them from a religious perspective, and I think this has more to do with economics than religion. Religious moderation seems to require the establishment of a middle class which barely exists across much of the Middle East


Ignore the ME. Look at muslims in the west or Asia.

Every major school of Islamic thought has the Koran as the direct word of Gopd as the pillar.

Until there is a school of thought that can say some od the stuff in there is garbage they are all fundamentalists.


Stile4aly: If there were a 1400 year history of Islamic intellectualism and philosophy, then medieval ideas like the penalties for blasphemy or apostasy would could have ceased to exist long ago


Fixed that for you. There is no guarantee that the "intellectuals" woudl have one that fight as yoru previous comments prove. They could have come out more extremist than before.
 
2012-09-18 02:19:01 PM
Can't get angry, found inner peace.
#Zen
 
2012-09-18 02:20:29 PM

Stile4aly: You miss my point completely. I do not for a moment pretend that violence or backwards notions do not exist in the Muslim world. They indeed exist at a greater per-capita level than in the United States. Where we differ is that you conclude that these problems exist because the people involved are Muslims and that there is something terrible about Islam which causes people to be violent and backwards. I conclude that there must be other causes because these same violent tendencies and backwards notions can be found in non-Muslim countries including the US. You casually denigrate over a billion people because of the ridiculous beliefs and deplorable actions of a handful and yet when it's pointed out that the same beliefs and actions exist all over the world you hand wave it away.

You

are the one missing the point. All of those billion people have ridiculous beliefs. Yes, we have a ton of people here with ridiculous beliefs as well. We call them Christians. The difference is that we ridicule and marginalize ours. As a result, the number of people who fall for such nonsense is declining. Islam deserves the same amount of respect as any other form of make-believe.

I would say they are no different than cosplay or furry geeks, but cosplayers and furries don't kill their detractors.
 
2012-09-18 02:22:21 PM

Canton: Yeah. It's hard to tell who's normal and who isn't sometimes... I remain somewhat more worried about paranoid white dudes concealing hand guns and persecution complexes...


That's mostly because you're doing it wrong.

/past actions are indicative of future behavior, and words of any sort are meaningless unless past actions have backed them up
//if you believe that words are the only thing that matter and past actions are prejudicial and should be forgotten, then that's what makes you a commie or something
 
2012-09-18 02:26:32 PM

buckler: modesto: Tech folks, is there any way I can show where I'm connecting from?

Oh forget it. Carry on being simple minded and afraid.

This will do it, if you're still interested.

 

Thanks

s12.postimage.org
 
2012-09-18 02:30:14 PM
People turned a funny thread into a gd political debate. #Farkrage
 
2012-09-18 02:31:44 PM
Tired of the pointless bickering and wants more funny. #STFUage
 
2012-09-18 02:32:34 PM

modesto: buckler: modesto: Tech folks, is there any way I can show where I'm connecting from?

Oh forget it. Carry on being simple minded and afraid.

This will do it, if you're still interested. 

Thanks

[s12.postimage.org image 448x355]


Good thin you are in a moderate islamic country...

"Egypt's general prosecutor on Tuesday issued arrest warrants for Florida Pastor Terry Jones and seven Coptic Christian Egyptians linked to an anti-Islam video on YouTube that sparked riots across the Middle East, The Associated Press is reporting.
The eight individuals, none of whom are believed to be in Egypt, are charged with harming national unity, insulting and publicly attacking Islam and spreading false information. They could face the death penalty."
Can you see the problem with your so called moderate peace loving muslims? All over a youtube video, thats just insane or retardation through years of inbreeding
 
2012-09-18 02:33:22 PM

modesto: liam76:
modesto is really dishing out a lot about his first hand knowledge of the ME without really explaining his knowledge.

I know a few things:


I was talking more along the lines of you claiming anyone who had a different opinion than yours had never been to the ME, and when people said they had insisting they must be military or oil as they didn't understand.


modesto: 1. The media portrayal of violence here is inaccurate and overblown. I live a few blocks from Tahrir and when there has been clashes over the last 1.5 years, I have had to adjust to this crazy duality where there is stone and molotov and tear gas throwing a few blocks away, but on my street (and all other points in this vast city) people are going about normal life: eating, shopping, smoking, drinking.


Over the lasy 1.5 years all othe rpoints int he city have been drinking?

I am going to go ahead and call BS on that.

modesto: 2. Most people couldn't give two shiats about this film, and many are angry and ashamed of the (again....VERY few) who made a big deal out of it, and how they knew it would play on TV and make "Egypt" look. Admittedly, my sample is not huge here. That attitude was certainly the consensus amongst my dozen or so local friends, and amplified ad nauseum on social media. Also, a cab driver passing by the clashes on my way home (after asking me about the roads in america, and saying what good people we are....you get that a lot) shook his head and said "stupid." I add this because taxi drivers are notoriously reliable bellwethers of all things political here for saying things that they think won't hurt their tips.


FTFY.

It is great that you have a dozen or so friends that think this whole thing is stupid, but the overwhelming majortiy of Egyptians support the death penatly for blasphemy.

modesto: 3. This stuff is complex. There are a lot more variables than christian vs. islam, arabs vs. americans. Also, being opposed to American foreign policy in the region does not equal OMG KILL THE INFIDELS!!!. These people have lived through six decades of authoritarian rule where you were tortured and disappeared if you stepped out of line. That could not have been the case without US support. That's not debatable; it's just true.


Yes because when the US leaves other dictators never step up, you never get oppressive theocracies in their places, and no dictator in the world has power without the US.

modesto: Say what you want about Camp David and the Arab Spring etc. etc. and whether the whole thing is/was worthwhile, but the 300,000 strong army of riot police that is still in place here to keep the people compliant? They might as well have "Made in the USA" stamped on their batons, because that's where the money and supplies come from. It should not come as a surprise that there is anti-american sentiment. We reap what we sow. Again, for 99.9999% of Egyptians, this is, if anything, a political issue, not a rationale for violence. Beyond that, there are huge economic issues and unemployment....trash everywhere.....water and electricity shortages....a whole lot of things that make the situation ripe for radicals to mobilize angry young men. This stuff happens for a reason. And the reason is not GOOD vs. EVIL or "they hate our freedoms" as perceived in the Bushian school of black and white.


So black and white views are bad, unless you want to blame a dictatorship on the US? Seriously?



modesto: But nuance and perspective do not make good TV, so instead the radicals get their pulpit. Stupid youtube video is fuel for an idiot sheikh to get a few people to go to the embassy and burn a flag. Flag burning gets played over and over again in America, so all muslims are fanatics.


No. Most muslims are fanatics because most mulsims support death penalty for blasphemy.
 
2012-09-18 02:37:00 PM

imtheonlylp: Nick Spiceyweiner: I'm just going to go ahead and say this: Mohammed is a dick. There, I said it. Sorry bastard always changes the price of stuff when I go into his Chevron.

and won't let me use my debit card for an item less than $5 #customerRAGE


I hear you! I hope he knows I draw some terrible cartoons about him at least once a day.
 
2012-09-18 02:37:38 PM

Zarquon's Flat Tire: I thought a rage was the name for a group of Muslims. Like a prude of Christians, a flow of Taoists, or a bank of Jews.


you forgot a "troll of atheists"
 
2012-09-18 02:39:15 PM

atomicmask: Stile4aly:
You miss my point completely. I do not for a moment pretend that violence or backwards notions do not exist in the Muslim world. They indeed exist at a greater per-capita level than in the United States. Where we differ is that you conclude that these problems exist because the people involved are Muslims and that there is something terrible about Islam which causes people to be violent and backwards. I conclude that there must be other causes because these same violent tendencies and backwards notions can be found in non-Muslim countries including the US. You casually denigrate over a billion people because of the ridiculous beliefs and deplorable actions of a handful and yet when it's pointed out that the same beliefs and actions exist all over the world you hand wave it away.

Let's put this in the simplest possible terms; it is impossible that a large percentage of Muslims actively support terrorism because if they did it would be the largest army of Earth and we couldn't have this pleasant conversation.

Actually it is not, you could have every muslim on earth support radical islam (a lot of them do, a few do not) because not every one is a combatant. SUPPORT does not mean "actively engage in it" but rather "Back them by upholding the standards and allowing them the means by which to pratice radical islam" How do they do that? It is rather easy..

1. Support islam itself, which in itself is a violent ideology.


Brilliant. So what you're saying is that if Muslims weren't terrorists, then they'd choose to convert to some other religion. Victory by definition!

2. Not reporting radical muslims or extremists to the authorities

New York city recently admitted it spent millions of dollars monitoring mosques over the last 10 years without a single reliable lead on a terrorist of any stripe. What leads you to believe there is some massive conspiracy to hide terrorists from the authorities?

3. Having authorities that are themselves radical muslims and extremists.

4. overthrowing dictators and in turn electing Radical muslim groups like the muslim brotherhood and hezbollah into positions of power.


Hezbollah is a proxy group for Syria and Iran, not some home-grown poltical party. And for your worries of them being in a position of power, they hold less than 10% of the Lebanese parliament and aren't part of the ruling coalition. The Muslim Brotherhood repudiated violence in the 1970s and and has been held up as a boogeyman because the West has historically feared a nationalist movement in the Middle East. What I've read about Morsi is that he promises to be a technocrat, not an Ayatollah. Now, the proof will be in the pudding, but you don't seem to be willing to give them that chance.

you see, if the radicalist movement was so thin and in such a minority, they would not be able to gain so high of positions of power. Exactly how the klan has no power in America, exactly how The national socialist movement no longer has power in germany. And to make the example even more clear, when we invaded Nazi germany, we were hard pressed to find a "real" nazi also, even though everyone supported and loved the national socialist government during the good times, and loved being a nazi. If you allow said things to happen, and do nothing to speak out or try to inhibit the spread and rise to power of an extremist group, you in effect support them. Apathy is as bad as actively working for them.

I reject the notion that groups like the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt are analogous to the Klan or the neo-nazis. I would argue that the closest parallel would be something like Sinn Fein which, much like the MB, had its origins in religious violence against an oppressive power (the Protestant British in Ireland, and the Western supported monarchy and later the Sadat and Mubarak regimes in Egypt) which it later repudiated in an effort to become a legitimate political party.

As far as Muslims being apathetic, I know this list of condemnations of terrorism by Muslims won't change your mind, but maybe a lurker or two will see something new.
 
2012-09-18 02:42:56 PM

atomicmask: "How much fervor: Gallup polled over 50,000 Muslims across 10 countries and found that, if one defines radicals as those who deemed the 9/11 attacks "completely justified," their number constitutes about 7 percent of the total population. But if one includes Muslims who considered the attacks "largely justified," their ranks jump to 13.5 percent. Adding those who deemed the attacks "somewhat justified" boosts the number of radicals to 36.6 percent."

Now it is safe to assume that quite a few muslims did not tell the truth, perhaps fearing persecution, so I would gage that somewhat justified number at way, way higher.


Way way? You sound way way statistical
 
2012-09-18 02:43:47 PM

Joe Blowme: modesto: buckler: modesto: Tech folks, is there any way I can show where I'm connecting from?

Oh forget it. Carry on being simple minded and afraid.

This will do it, if you're still interested. 

Thanks

[s12.postimage.org image 448x355]

Good thin you are in a moderate islamic country...

"Egypt's general prosecutor on Tuesday issued arrest warrants for Florida Pastor Terry Jones and seven Coptic Christian Egyptians linked to an anti-Islam video on YouTube that sparked riots across the Middle East, The Associated Press is reporting.
The eight individuals, none of whom are believed to be in Egypt, are charged with harming national unity, insulting and publicly attacking Islam and spreading false information. They could face the death penalty."
Can you see the problem with your so called moderate peace loving muslims? All over a youtube video, thats just insane or retardation through years of inbreeding


Pretty odious, no doubt. Also though, a completely symbolic gesture since none of them will ever face trial here. A publicity stunt by a politician trying to make a name for himself. Probably will be walked back in a few days, or at least that's typical of the farcical government these days.

Another thing to keep in mind here is that because of the authoritarian regimes that everyone has lived their whole lives under (in no small part due to us), they really can't grasp the nature of free speech without prior restraint. If something came out, the government must have ok'd it.

What is your contention, exactly? That holding a quran at any point in your life will turn you completely, irrevocably evil? Is it like.....a virus? Zombie muslims bent on eating american brains?
 
2012-09-18 02:45:41 PM

liam76: Stile4aly: I would disagree that there is no non-fundamentalist movement within Islam

What branch of Islam doesn't take the Koran as the direct word of God?


What branch of Christianity doesn't take the Bible as the inspired word of God. All religions take their holy texts as divine writ, why is Islam special in this case? Certainly you'll find plenty of cafeteria Christianity in the West, but this is hardly an organized religious movement. Likewise, you'll find cafeteria Muslims in the West (I'm one of them).

This is one of the huge problesm with Islam when contrasted with Christianity. The other is that the main prophet you are supposed to be like was a pedo warlord, vice a dirty hippy.

A pedo warlord... Get bent.
 
2012-09-18 02:47:47 PM
I want to participate in a funny thread about Islam, but can't because there are too many trolls and I feel compelled to defend my religion. #MUSLIMRAGE
 
2012-09-18 02:56:30 PM
"The difference is that we ridicule and marginalize ours."


That's harsh. I smile at them, pat them on the head, and hurry out of their way.
 
2012-09-18 02:57:42 PM

Stile4aly: liam76: Stile4aly: I would disagree that there is no non-fundamentalist movement within Islam

What branch of Islam doesn't take the Koran as the direct word of God?

What branch of Christianity doesn't take the Bible as the inspired word of God.


Don't be dishonest.

Stile4aly: All religions take their holy texts as divine writ, why is Islam special in this case?


Deism?

There is the Catholic stance that the bible is the innerant word of god only on matters of faith (ie evolution, etc are ok).

In the 70's evangelicals got together in Chicago to declare the bible inerrant becasue of the fast growing christian belief that it was not.

Nevermind the whole split you mentioned earlier in this thread when I brought up fundamenatlists that arose from christians not looking at the bible as the direct word of God.

Stile4aly: Likewise, you'll find cafeteria Muslims in the West (I'm one of them).


What major school of Islamic thought backs that belief?

Stile4aly: A pedo warlord... Get bent


He didn't bone a 9yr old? He didn't lead a war band?

Not a good student of your faith, are you?
 
2012-09-18 03:00:33 PM

Stile4aly: I want to participate in a funny thread about Islam, but can't because there are too many trolls and I feel compelled to defend my religionI get butthurt when people bring up that Mo banged his 9yr old bride and led people in battle.#MUSLIMRAGE


FTFY
 
2012-09-18 03:02:17 PM

liam76: modesto: liam76:


Over the lasy 1.5 years all othe rpoints int he city have been drinking?

I am going to go ahead and call BS on that.


Check it out, dog. Bars and clubs all over town.


modesto: 2. Most people couldn't give two shiats about this film, and many are angry and ashamed of the (again....VERY few) who made a big deal out of it, and how they knew it would play on TV and make "Egypt" look. Admittedly, my sample is not huge here. That attitude was certainly the consensus amongst my dozen or so local friends, and amplified ad nauseum on social media. Also, a cab driver passing by the clashes on my way home (after asking me about the roads in america, and saying what good people we are....you get that a lot) shook his head and said "stupid." I add this because taxi drivers are notoriously reliable bellwethers of all things political here for saying things that they think won't hurt their tips.

FTFY.

Right. I'm sure he was internally seething with rage and just making pleasant small talk to placate me while he tried to plot my beheading in a moving vehicle.

It is great that you have a dozen or so friends that think this whole thing is stupid, but the overwhelming majortiy of Egyptians support the death penatly for blasphemy.


Cite?

modesto: 3. This stuff is complex. There are a lot more variables than christian vs. islam, arabs vs. americans. Also, being opposed to American foreign policy in the region does ... 

If you don't think that Mubarak stayed in power because of US backing, you are simply uninformed.
 
2012-09-18 03:03:02 PM
Got cut off in the fast lane. Reaching for Glock in glove box. #roadrage
 
2012-09-18 03:18:00 PM

Ryker's Peninsula: Got cut off in the fast lane. Reaching for Glock in glove box. #roadrage


Got ganked in PVP. #RogueRage

/sorry, just had to :D
 
2012-09-18 03:21:44 PM

modesto: liam76: modesto: liam76:


Over the lasy 1.5 years all othe rpoints int he city have been drinking?

I am going to go ahead and call BS on that.

Check it out, dog. Bars and clubs all over town.


Look how many are in hotels.

How many of those not in hotels serve booze during Ramadan?


Still wondering why you didn't answer what you are doing there, when you thought it was so important for everyone else who weighed in.


modesto:
Right. I'm sure he was internally seething with rage and just making pleasant small talk to placate me while he tried to plot my beheading in a moving vehicle.

Why do you feel the need to make shiat up instead of responding to what I said. He wanted a bigger tip. You are likely going to tip more if he says how much he likes the US. Expecting honesty out of a cab driver on his feelings towards your country is like expecting honesty out of a hooker on how you kiss.

modesto: Cite?


But when asked about how the new government would be run, about 62% of polled said they want society to strictly follow the Quran.

At least three-quarters of Muslims in Egypt (86%, mentioned later in article)and Pakistan say they would favor making each of the following the law in their countries: stoning people who commit adultery, whippings and cutting off of hands for crimes like theft and robbery and the death penalty for those who leave the Muslim religion.


modesto: If you don't think that Mubarak stayed in power because of US backing, you are simply uninformed


If we had cut all aid, yes he would have lost power, but that is because the poeple would be starving, not because we were directly propping him up. We stop aid and he was still the most powerful guy there with a stangle hold on all parts of the govt.

This is where that whole "black and white" issue comes into play, which you are apprently fine with if it suits you.
 
2012-09-18 03:23:28 PM

liam76: But when asked about how the new government would be run, about 62% of polled said they want society to strictly follow the Quran


hmmm

Don't know why it threw out this link.

http://moderatemuslimvoices.blogspot.com/2011/04/pew-research-poll-on - egypt.html
 
2012-09-18 03:30:06 PM
Relevant to this thread, but borderline NSFW:

http://www.theonion.com/articles/no-one-murdered-because-of-this-imag e ,29553/

Every religion has fundies, and all fundies are easy to offend, but only one has fundies who routinely kill because they're offended.
 
2012-09-18 03:31:24 PM
liam76:

I work with refugees.

You're Mubarak reasoning doesn't work. The standard package which has been adjusted for inflation since Camp david now provides about 1 billion to the military and 250 million for development. It's not relief money, it's state-sponsorship money. And the absolute beauty is that we give them the billion, then they buy equipment from our contractors! It's a fantastic shakedown all around.
 
2012-09-18 03:40:10 PM

liam76: Stile4aly: liam76: Stile4aly: I would disagree that there is no non-fundamentalist movement within Islam

What branch of Islam doesn't take the Koran as the direct word of God?

What branch of Christianity doesn't take the Bible as the inspired word of God.

Don't be dishonest.


I'm not intending to be dishonest, I don't see a signficant difference between the two. Additionally, Islam has no equivalent to papal infalliability.

Stile4aly: All religions take their holy texts as divine writ, why is Islam special in this case?

Deism?


Deism is a current religious movement?

There is the Catholic stance that the bible is the innerant word of god only on matters of faith (ie evolution, etc are ok).

In the 70's evangelicals got together in Chicago to declare the bible inerrant becasue of the fast growing christian belief that it was not.

Nevermind the whole split you mentioned earlier in this thread when I brought up fundamenatlists that arose from christians not looking at the bible as the direct word of God.


The Protestant split had nothing to do with Biblical innerrancy, it was about the centralized authority and infalliability of the Pope as well as the corruption of the Catholic Church particularly regarding the selling of indulgences.

Stile4aly: Likewise, you'll find cafeteria Muslims in the West (I'm one of them).

What major school of Islamic thought backs that belief?


None to my knowledge. That doesn't mean we don't exist.

Stile4aly: A pedo warlord... Get bent

He didn't bone a 9yr old? He didn't lead a war band?

Not a good student of your faith, are you?


Muhammad, after fleeing persecution in Mecca led a series of campaigns from Medina which included caravan raids against the Quraish tribe. Calling him a warlord suggests that his motive was personal wealth as opposed to a strategic goal of self defense of his followers and ultimately retaking Mecca.

Regarding Aisha, leaving aside the fact that child marriage for political purpose was commonplace at the time and that the marriage could be declared invalid without consummation, there are arguments that she was older than is commonly believed at the time of her marriage and consummation. In the Hadith in question, Aisha states that she was 6 at the age of marriage and 9 at the age of consummation, however in other Hadith, Aisha reports witnessing events that she would not have been alive for if those ages were correct. Furthermore, in another Hadith, she uses a system of numerical substitution where she basically drops the "tens" column of her numbers. If she did the same then this would mean she was 16 when married and 19 when the marriage was consummated.
 
2012-09-18 03:41:03 PM

liam76: modesto: liam76: modesto: liam76:


How many of those not in hotels serve booze during Ramadan?

Some. Is that the definition of extremism now?

modesto: Right. I'm sure he was internally seething with rage and just making pleasant small talk to placate me while he tried to plot my beheading in a moving vehicle.

Why do you feel the need to make shiat up instead of responding to what I said. He wanted a bigger tip. You are likely going to tip more if he says how much he likes the US. Expecting honesty out of a cab driver on his feelings towards your country is like expecting honesty out of a hooker on how you kiss.

Did all 18 million people who didn't protest in this city all went me to tip them too? Crap.
 
2012-09-18 03:41:19 PM

Private_Citizen: Every religion has fundies, and all fundies are easy to offend, but only one has fundies who routinely aren't too lazy to go out of their way to kill because they're offended.


FTFY (fine point, but based on my bible-belt-centric observations)
 
2012-09-18 03:45:23 PM

liam76: Stile4aly: I want to participate in a funny thread about Islam, but can't because there are too many trolls and I feel compelled to defend my religionI get butthurt when people bring up that Mo banged his 9yr old bride and led people in battle.#MUSLIMRAGE

FTFY


Bigotry annoys me, but fark me, right?
 
2012-09-18 03:55:49 PM

Stile4aly: she uses a system of numerical substitution where she basically drops the "tens" column of her numbers. If she did the same then this would mean she was 16 when married and 19 when the marriage was consummated.


cultofmac.cultofmaccom.netdna-cdn.com
 
2012-09-18 04:07:45 PM
For the people who are saying that we have freedom of speech and religion in the USA, you have to understand that in some parts of this world, people don't have a concept of those things. Concepts that we believe are natural and fundamental aren't either of those to a lot of people outside of the West. To them, this video being made in America is the same thing as the American government agreeing with it because in their nations it would be censored.

Also, to the people who say that Muslim is a religion of violence: read a book instead of listening to talking points. Sorry to point it out, but the Jews, Christians, and Muslims all worship the same deity. I know nobody in any of those groups wants to hear that they're basically the same...but they are.

Lastly, as a Muslim, I think #muslimrage is hi-larious.
 
2012-09-18 04:07:58 PM

Stile4aly: liam76: Stile4aly: I want to participate in a funny thread about Islam, but can't because there are too many trolls and I feel compelled to defend my religionI get butthurt when people bring up that Mo banged his 9yr old bride and led people in battle.#MUSLIMRAGE

FTFY

Bigotry annoys me, but fark me, right?


you are part of the biggest bigoted religion on earth, but bigotry annoys you?
 
2012-09-18 04:10:53 PM

Steve McQueen's Motorcycle: Stile4aly: she uses a system of numerical substitution where she basically drops the "tens" column of her numbers. If she did the same then this would mean she was 16 when married and 19 when the marriage was consummated.

[incredulous Seth and Amy.gif]


Yes, I get it. My explanation is two sentences about a complex topic, so it sounds frivolous. The mathematical trick I mention does exist, though I don't have chapter and verse reference to it offhand and it's the less compelling argument anyway. Nevertheless, there is legitimate theological argument about Aisha's age at marriage and compelling arguments that she was in her mid to late teens when the marriage was consummated.
 
2012-09-18 04:11:06 PM

Stile4aly: she uses a system of numerical substitution where she basically drops the "tens" column of her numbers. If she did the same then this would mean she was 16 when married and 19 when the marriage was consummated.


Wow! Thanks! I'm gonna remember that next time.

/yeah, she said she was eight, but I naturally assumed she used a system of numerical substitution where she basically drops the "tens" column of her numbers
 
2012-09-18 04:13:16 PM

EmmaLou: For the people who are saying that we have freedom of speech and religion in the USA, you have to understand that in some parts of this world, people don't have a concept of those things. Concepts that we believe are natural and fundamental aren't either of those to a lot of people outside of the West. To them, this video being made in America is the same thing as the American government agreeing with it because in their nations it would be censored.

Also, to the people who say that Muslim is a religion of violence: read a book instead of listening to talking points. Sorry to point it out, but the Jews, Christians, and Muslims all worship the same deity. I know nobody in any of those groups wants to hear that they're basically the same...but they are.

Lastly, as a Muslim, I think #muslimrage is hi-larious.


How bout we read the quran? Same? just with out all the rape, incest, death, and destruction right?
Just because they have no concept, does not give them a pass. They have a concept that women are property and can be beaten, do we just say "oh well, part of their conceptions"
There is right and wrong in the real world no matter if they choose to see it or not.
 
2012-09-18 04:15:31 PM

Stile4aly: Steve McQueen's Motorcycle: Stile4aly: she uses a system of numerical substitution where she basically drops the "tens" column of her numbers. If she did the same then this would mean she was 16 when married and 19 when the marriage was consummated.

[incredulous Seth and Amy.gif]

Yes, I get it. My explanation is two sentences about a complex topic, so it sounds frivolous. The mathematical trick I mention does exist, though I don't have chapter and verse reference to it offhand and it's the less compelling argument anyway. Nevertheless, there is legitimate theological argument about Aisha's age at marriage and compelling arguments that she was in her mid to late teens when the marriage was consummated.


No, your explanation is a bad attempt at justifying pedophillia of teh prophet (piss be upon him)
 
2012-09-18 04:19:59 PM
Guinness factory burns to the ground #StoutRage
 
2012-09-18 04:27:36 PM

MBooda: Stile4aly: she uses a system of numerical substitution where she basically drops the "tens" column of her numbers. If she did the same then this would mean she was 16 when married and 19 when the marriage was consummated.

Wow! Thanks! I'm gonna remember that next time.

/yeah, she said she was eight, but I naturally assumed she used a system of numerical substitution where she basically drops the "tens" column of her numbers


There is another hadith where Aisha basically says "such and such happens on the 5th day, and such and such happens on the 8th day" where in fact the events happen on the 25th day and 28th day. I'm simply saying that in conjunction with other evidence, there is an argument to be made that she was not 6 at the age of marriage.

Joe Blowme:
No, your explanation is a bad attempt at justifying pedophillia of teh prophet (piss be upon him)


I do not justify pedophilia. I was simply stating that the question of Aisha's age at marriage is not settled and I happen to find the evidence that she was older compelling.
 
2012-09-18 04:30:31 PM

Stile4aly: The mathematical trick I mention does exist, though I don't have chapter and verse reference to it offhand and it's the less compelling argument anyway.


You forgot "there is insufficient room in the margins".
www.fermatcapital.com
 
2012-09-18 04:33:10 PM

halfof33: NiceBeaver: So, let me get this right...an American uses his Constitutionally protected freedom of speech to make a youtube video that points out problems with how a great deal of the Middle East practices Islam, and despite numerous reports from on-ground sources (and the Libyan President) plainly describing how riots - that have cost Americans their lives - are ultimately unrelated to the video, but instead are a coordinated attack on American embassies, the White House asks Youtube to take down the video, the filmmaker gets taken in for questioning (not for a lame parole violation issue), and liberals like Hillary Clinton double-down on the notion that the video is to blame?
.

Wow, I don't think anything you just wrote is true. I don't like Barry Obama either, but get your shiat straight ya dope.


Nothing I wrote is true? Get your facts straight, dumbass.
1. He has freedom of speech
2. A great deal of the Middle East practices Islamic religion
3. Americans have lost their lives as a result of the riots
4. The riots are coordinated, and not a result of a farking video. Unorganized events that spontaneously pop-up don't generally involve RPGs
5. Dude did get taken in for questioning
6. Hillary did, in fact, continue to link the video the riots

Please go suck off someone at HuffPo.
 
2012-09-18 04:34:54 PM

Harvey Manfrenjensenjen: NiceBeaver: So, let me get this right...an American uses his Constitutionally protected freedom of speech to make a youtube video that points out problems with how a great deal of the Middle East practices Islam, and despite numerous reports from on-ground sources (and the Libyan President) plainly describing how riots - that have cost Americans their lives - are ultimately unrelated to the video, but instead are a coordinated attack on American embassies, the White House asks Youtube to take down the video, the filmmaker gets taken in for questioning (not for a lame parole violation issue), and liberals like Hillary Clinton double-down on the notion that the video is to blame?

Remember all those riots and deaths when the piss-Christ thing was being trumpeted by the same crowd denouncing this film? Yeah, me neither.

Go back and check out the threads on the topic over the past week or so. GAT_00 and cameroncrazy1984 have finally jumped the shark with their derp-tastic takes on the events. The multitude of smack downs, even from people with whom they normally agree, have not convinced them to rethink their position but have only served to reinforce their notion that they're "speaking truth to power" or whatever the hell they've convinced themselves they're doing.


No need. GAT_00 is a known dipshiat, and cameroncrazy is farkied as tinfoil hat dipshiat, lives with mommy.
 
2012-09-18 04:37:12 PM

notatrollorami: NiceBeaver: So, let me get this right...an American uses his Constitutionally protected freedom of speech to make a youtube video that points out problems with how a great deal of the Middle East practices Islam, and despite numerous reports from on-ground sources (and the Libyan President) plainly describing how riots - that have cost Americans their lives - are ultimately unrelated to the video, but instead are a coordinated attack on American embassies, the White House asks Youtube to take down the video, the filmmaker gets taken in for questioning (not for a lame parole violation issue), and liberals like Hillary Clinton double-down on the notion that the video is to blame?

Remember all those riots and deaths when the piss-Christ thing was being trumpeted by the same crowd denouncing this film? Yeah, me neither.

I think you started out with a direction in mind but ended up wildly swerving all over the damned road and careening into the ditch. In the aftermath no one can discern your original intent.


I'm sorry you don't follow coherent thought without a summary sentence that ties everything into a little bow. I bet you had to have someone explain Memento to you about 45 times, with stick figures, pantomime, powerpoint slideshows, and a timeline drawn on the sidewalk with multiple colors of chalk before you finally got it.
 
2012-09-18 04:37:13 PM

Stile4aly: The mathematical trick I mention does exist, though I don't have chapter and verse reference to it offhand


What would be the purpose of arbitrarily throwing away data?
 
2012-09-18 04:38:11 PM

Joe Blowme: (piss be upon him)


Ugh. No need to be intentionally offensive. Don't stoop to the level of the bigots in fark christian bashing threads.
 
2012-09-18 04:38:31 PM

lostcat: atomicmask: pute kisses like a man: people seem to use this term freedom of speech. wtf does it have to do with anything?

why on earth would anyone else give a flying fark about our constitutional protections? it's just the way this country does it, it's not some mandate from the law of the universe. no one else has to give a flying fark about freedom of speech, plus, it only protects you from government censorship... it doesn't protect you from being an ass and pissing people off

You have no concept about the law, or its intended purpose or meaning. It does not protect us from pissing people off, it protects us from violence because we pissed someone off. It is that whole "Civilized society" thing we got going for us. The law exists to protect the few from the many and the weak from the strong. Why on earth should we care if we offend people half way around the world?

The First Amendment protects individuals from laws passed that would restrict what we are allowed to say. It was intended more to let citizens speak out against the government, than to allow people to say whatever they want about any topic.

The freedom of speech also does not include:

- Speech that contains "fighting words" (insulting or abusive language that is likely to cause "an immediate violent response");
- Obscenities;
- Language or communication directed to inciting, producing or urging the commission of a crime;
- Defamation - words or communication that are false and untrue and are intended to injure the character and reputation of another person;
- Abusive, obscene or harassing telephone calls;
- Loud speech and loud noise meant by volume to disturb others or to create a clear and present danger of violence.


I've bolded the relevant point above, which is that saying something that results in the commission of a crime is not protected speech.

Producing a video with the sole intent to disturb shiat, possibly getting American citizens killed, is just willfully negligent, if not cri ...


There are "smart" and "funny" buttons, but I can't find the "doesn't have a farking clue how the First Amendment works" button so I can properly credit your post.
 
2012-09-18 04:41:49 PM

trippdogg: NiceBeaver: So, let me get this right...an American uses his Constitutionally protected freedom of speech to make a youtube video that points out problems with how a great deal of the Middle East practices Islam, and despite numerous reports from on-ground sources (and the Libyan President) plainly describing how riots - that have cost Americans their lives - are ultimately unrelated to the video, but instead are a coordinated attack on American embassies, the White House asks Youtube to take down the video, the filmmaker gets taken in for questioning (not for a lame parole violation issue), and liberals like Hillary Clinton double-down on the notion that the video is to blame?

Remember all those riots and deaths when the piss-Christ thing was being trumpeted by the same crowd denouncing this film? Yeah, me neither.

You must be the shiat at a party.


Actually, I am. Thanks for noticing.
 
2012-09-18 04:42:19 PM

trappedspirit: Stile4aly: The mathematical trick I mention does exist, though I don't have chapter and verse reference to it offhand

What would be the purpose of arbitrarily throwing away data?


My understanding is that it was a colloquialism of 7th century Arabic, not a subject I'm well versed in.
 
2012-09-18 04:44:59 PM

Stile4aly: My understanding is that it was a colloquialism of 7th century Arabic, not a subject I'm well versed in.


Mighty proud that you're not letting your ignorance stop you.
 
2012-09-18 04:48:01 PM

MBooda: Stile4aly: My understanding is that it was a colloquialism of 7th century Arabic, not a subject I'm well versed in.

Mighty proud that you're not letting your ignorance stop you.


Last time I checked, it is possible to refer to experts without being one yourself.
 
2012-09-18 04:54:12 PM

Stile4aly: Muhammad, after fleeing persecution in Mecca led a series of campaigns from Medina which included caravan raids against the Quraish tribe.


Cool, I am going to Medina next week to watch the Ryder Cup.
 
2012-09-18 04:55:56 PM

PJ-: AgentBang: I vote that we start a #ChristianRage tag on Twitter, see how well that floats in 'Merika.

Found out my pool guy Jesus can't walk on water. What do you mean they don't pronounce it that way where they are from? #ChristianRage


Dude you are going to get me fired I am laughing so hard.
 
2012-09-18 04:57:00 PM

ThrowYourHatredDown: Stile4aly: Muhammad, after fleeing persecution in Mecca led a series of campaigns from Medina which included caravan raids against the Quraish tribe.

Cool, I am going to Medina next week to watch the Ryder Cup.


I wanted to make a pilgrimage to Medina, but ended up at the Ryder Cup. #MUSLIMRAGE
 
2012-09-18 04:58:42 PM

trappedspirit: Stile4aly: The mathematical trick I mention does exist, though I don't have chapter and verse reference to it offhand

What would be the purpose of arbitrarily throwing away data?


Ask the Council of Nicea.
 
2012-09-18 05:11:24 PM
Stile4aly:

FWIW, big respect points for not becoming childish and when faced with gang antagonism. And for analyzing the recent events in a reasonable way, without trying to shift blame or attention away from the topic.

You would probably be one of the few people on fark I could disagree with and have a fruitful conversation with at the same time.
 
2012-09-18 05:11:57 PM

Stile4aly: liam76: Stile4aly: liam76: Stile4aly: I would disagree that there is no non-fundamentalist movement within Islam

What branch of Islam doesn't take the Koran as the direct word of God?

What branch of Christianity doesn't take the Bible as the inspired word of God.

Don't be dishonest.

I'm not intending to be dishonest, I don't see a signficant difference between the two. Additionally, Islam has no equivalent to papal infalliability.

Stile4aly: All religions take their holy texts as divine writ, why is Islam special in this case?

Deism?

Deism is a current religious movement?

There is the Catholic stance that the bible is the innerant word of god only on matters of faith (ie evolution, etc are ok).

In the 70's evangelicals got together in Chicago to declare the bible inerrant becasue of the fast growing christian belief that it was not.

Nevermind the whole split you mentioned earlier in this thread when I brought up fundamenatlists that arose from christians not looking at the bible as the direct word of God.

The Protestant split had nothing to do with Biblical innerrancy, it was about the centralized authority and infalliability of the Pope as well as the corruption of the Catholic Church particularly regarding the selling of indulgences.

Stile4aly: Likewise, you'll find cafeteria Muslims in the West (I'm one of them).

What major school of Islamic thought backs that belief?

None to my knowledge. That doesn't mean we don't exist.

Stile4aly: A pedo warlord... Get bent

He didn't bone a 9yr old? He didn't lead a war band?

Not a good student of your faith, are you?

Muhammad, after fleeing persecution in Mecca led a series of campaigns from Medina which included caravan raids against the Quraish tribe. Calling him a warlord suggests that his motive was personal wealth as opposed to a strategic goal of self defense of his followers and ultimately retaking Mecca.

Regarding Aisha, leaving aside the fact that child marriage for political purpose was commonp ...


You are a liar, but you are muslim, so its to be expected. Lets go over your lies, shall we?

1. Muhammed after fleeing persecution in mecca- He was banished from mecca for trying to forceably convert the polytheists. The entire city of mecca got together to speak to mohammed uncle about him, and said if Mohammed wanted to preach in Mecca, it was fine, but he is not to insult or try to force polytheists to his religion Mohammed refused and told them their gods were false (notice a trend already?) he was banished from mecca and started to raid peaceful traders and form a bandit army, the Quarish (a peaceful merchant class of people) was one of said tribes he persecuted and forced into slavery or islam. He was a farking warlord, stop trying to redefine terms to suit your goals. He was a bandit warlord at that, a thief and a rapist.

2. Regarding Aisha, leaving aside the fact that child marriage for political purpose was commonplace at the time and that the marriage could be declared invalid without consummation, there are arguments that she was older than is commonly believed at the time of her marriage and consummation. In the Hadith in question, Aisha states that she was 6 at the age of marriage and 9 at the age of consummation, however in other Hadith, Aisha reports witnessing events that she would not have been alive for if those ages were correct. Furthermore, in another Hadith, she uses a system of numerical substitution where she basically drops the "tens" column of her numbers. If she did the same then this would mean she was 16 when married and 19 when the marriage was consummated.

Funny that, how they mention that Aisha was playing with dolls at the age of consummating the marriage. as quoted from the Quran...



Narrated Aisha: The Prophet engaged me when I was a girl of six (years). We went to Medina and stayed at the home of Bani-al-Harith bin Khazraj. Then I got ill and my hair fell down. Later on my hair grew (again) and my mother, Um Ruman, came to me while I was playing in a swing with some of my girl friends. She called me, and I went to her, not knowing what she wanted to do to me. She caught me by the hand and made me stand at the door of the house. I was breathless then, and when my breathing became Allright, she took some water and rubbed my face and head with it. Then she took me into the house. There in the house I saw some Ansari women who said, "Best wishes and Allah's Blessing and a good luck." Then she entrusted me to them and they prepared me (for the marriage). Unexpectedly Allah's Apostle came to me in the forenoon and my mother handed me over to him, and at that time I was a girl of nine years of age. Volume 5, Book 58, Number 234

Narrated 'Aisha: I used to play with the dolls in the presence of the Prophet, and my girl friends also used to play with me. When Allah's Apostle used to enter (my dwelling place) they used to hide themselves, but the Prophet would call them to join and play with me. (The playing with the dolls and similar images is forbidden, but it was allowed for 'Aisha at that time, as she was a little girl, not yet reached the age of puberty.) (Fateh-al-Bari page 143, Vol.13) Volume 8, Book 73, Number 151


So, in conclusion, again, you are lair and your porphet was a pedophile bandit warlord. Deal with it.
 
2012-09-18 05:21:21 PM

Stile4aly: MBooda: Stile4aly: My understanding is that it was a colloquialism of 7th century Arabic, not a subject I'm well versed in.

Mighty proud that you're not letting your ignorance stop you.

Last time I checked, it is possible to refer to experts without being one yourself.


To which experts do you refer?
 
2012-09-18 05:31:13 PM

modesto: Say what you want about Camp David and the Arab Spring etc. etc. and whether the whole thing is/was worthwhile, but the 300,000 strong army of riot police that is still in place here to keep the people compliant?


The alternative was that the present western border of Israel would be Libya.

Egypt lost the Sinai three times in 16 years, and the last time the cease-fire was called with the Israeli army on the roads to Damascus and Cairo.

The alternative wasn't no riot police; it was riot police stamped with the Star of David instead.
 
2012-09-18 05:32:44 PM

atomicmask: but it was allowed for 'Aisha at that time, as she was a little girl, not yet reached the age of puberty.


Puberty didn't start until age 25 back then. Don't you know girls have been hitting puberty earlier and earlier? If you extrapolate back...yeah, 25 is about right, dontcha think?

;o)
 
2012-09-18 05:43:16 PM

Stile4aly: Deism is a current religious movement?


I thought it was accepted that they were the "root" of unitarian churches.

Stile4aly: The Protestant split had nothing to do with Biblical innerrancy, it was about the centralized authority and infalliability of the Pope as well as the corruption of the Catholic Church particularly regarding the selling of indulgences.


The "split", no the "splintering" it caused, yes. (your exact words, a Protestant movement resulting in a splintering). You had a number of protestant churches, many different movements, lots of which stopped looking at the bible as perfect. The whole "fundamentalist" movement in christianity was to fight those movements.

Stile4aly: None to my knowledge. That doesn't mean we don't exist.


Yes but it does speak about how many of you there are.

Stile4aly: Muhammad, after fleeing persecution (for trying to forcibly convert people) in Mecca led a series of campaigns from Medina which included caravan raids against the peaceful Quraish tribe. Calling him a warlord suggests that his motive was personal wealth as opposed to a strategic goal of self defense of his followers and ultimately retaking Mecca.


No calling him a warlord suggests he led fights as opposed to turning the other cheek. It suggest he was trying to "take" land (retaking doesn't make it any better).

Stile4aly: Regarding Aisha, leaving aside the fact that child marriage for political purpose was commonplace at the time and that the marriage could be declared invalid without consummation, there are arguments that she was older than is commonly believed at the time of her marriage and consummation. In the Hadith in question, Aisha states that she was 6 at the age of marriage and 9 at the age of consummation, however in other Hadith, Aisha reports witnessing events that she would not have been alive for if those ages were correct. Furthermore, in another Hadith, she uses a system of numerical substitution where she basically drops the "tens" column of her numbers. If she did the same then this would mean she was 16 when married and 19 when the marriage was consummated


Excusing pedophilia because it was acceptable at the time may work for you, but it doesn't change the facts. And given that many muslims look at Mo's life (and all aspects of it) as something to model your self after it provides me no comfort for his followers trying to emulate him on other matters.

If she was just dropping numbers why was the historical marriage age in muslim countries 6 or 9? Apparently experts used to believe this. It seems they now want to pick another story because modern age is catching up with him.


Clean up or try and defend his actions all you want, I have the same issues when comparing people following Christ vs him.
 
2012-09-18 05:44:08 PM

This text is now purple: modesto: Say what you want about Camp David and the Arab Spring etc. etc. and whether the whole thing is/was worthwhile, but the 300,000 strong army of riot police that is still in place here to keep the people compliant?

The alternative was that the present western border of Israel would be Libya.

Egypt lost the Sinai three times in 16 years, and the last time the cease-fire was called with the Israeli army on the roads to Damascus and Cairo.

The alternative wasn't no riot police; it was riot police stamped with the Star of David instead.


Point taken. I'm not as fluent in the history as I'd like to be. Still though....my original point was that people have legitimate complaints against our role here. The one incident of anti-americanism I have encountered was when someone wanted to show me a canister of the Made in USA tear gas being used to disperse peaceful protestors. I'm not sure how us giving them the money to buy that from us relates to israeli occupation at this point.
 
2012-09-18 05:46:15 PM

modesto: liam76: Why do you feel the need to make shiat up instead of responding to what I said. He wanted a bigger tip. You are likely going to tip more if he says how much he likes the US. Expecting honesty out of a cab driver on his feelings towards your country is like expecting honesty out of a hooker on how you kiss.

Did all 18 million people who didn't protest in this city all went me to tip them too? Crap


Hmm. How many times am I going to have to repeat that bolded portion to you?

Cabbies make money off you, it stands to reason that they want to make you happy. Taking their stance as a barometer for the feelings of the city is stupid.

modesto: Some. Is that the definition of extremism now?


No. I never said that was what the definition of extremism was.

But when most of the people support death penalty for the things I laid out, stoning for adultery, etc, that is.

Not surprised you ignored those responses.


Stile4aly: liam76: Stile4aly: I want to participate in a funny thread about Islam, but can't because there are too many trolls and I feel compelled to defend my religionI get butthurt when people bring up that Mo banged his 9yr old bride and led people in battle.#MUSLIMRAGE

FTFY

Bigotry annoys me, but fark me, right?


Where is the bigotry?

Stile4aly: I'm not intending to be dishonest, I don't see a signficant difference between the two. Additionally, Islam has no equivalent to papal infalliability.


Direct word can't be wrong. Inspired means it was actually written by man so parts can be wrong, but the "entire message" is right.
 
2012-09-18 05:48:55 PM

modesto: I work with refugees.


Doing what exactly, refugees from where?


Still being very vague for someone who questioned the knowledge of people based on what they did there.

I had friends (educated engineers) from Cairo and Alexandria, but I also worked day in day out with with people from small towns. I worked with Nubians.


modesto: You're Mubarak reasoning doesn't work. The standard package which has been adjusted for inflation since Camp david now provides about 1 billion to the military and 250 million for development. It's not relief money, it's state-sponsorship money. And the absolute beauty is that we give them the billion, then they buy equipment from our contractors! It's a fantastic shakedown all around


He didn't control virtually every aspect of the govt and many aspects of the economy?

The "standard package" was not the entiriety of our aid, and even if we dropped military aid the people got a lot from us (even if much of it was through us).

Yes he likely would have fallen in a couple years, but that would only if no other state stepped up, and who knows who would have won. Look how well his party did in the last election.
 
2012-09-18 05:50:47 PM

modesto: Still though....my original point was that people have legitimate complaints against our role here.


But that wasn't' what you argued. You argued that a dictator was there solely because of the US (and then went on to biatch about people seeing in black and white, otherwise I probably would have let it slide).
 
2012-09-18 05:52:20 PM

atomicmask: You are a liar, but you are muslim, so its to be expected.


If you reject what I say out of hand because of my faith then what's the point in arguing?
 
2012-09-18 05:58:00 PM

liam76: modesto: liam76:

Hmm. How many times am I going to have to repeat that bolded portion to you?

Several more, please.

Cabbies make money off you, it stands to reason that they want to make you happy. Taking their stance as a barometer for the feelings of the city is stupid.

The cabbie thing was a silly anecdote. Sheesh. Lighten up, man. Not surprised you won't reply to my question of why the 18 million non-protesting muslims in this city were somehow able to restrain their murderous rage and convincingly appear to not give a fark.

Night night sweetheart.
 
2012-09-18 05:58:49 PM

Stile4aly: If you reject what I say out of hand because of my faith then what's the point in arguing


He didn't reject it out of hand. He explained a number of points why he thought you were wrong (with more citations than you provided)
 
2012-09-18 06:05:01 PM

modesto: The cabbie thing was a silly anecdote.


Sure sounds like an anecdote.

I add this because taxi drivers are notoriously reliable bellwethers of all things political here


modesto: Not surprised you won't reply to my question of why the 18 million non-protesting muslims in this city were somehow able to restrain their murderous rage and convincingly appear to not give a fark


Mostly because you are pulling shiat out of your ass that doesn't have fark all to do with what I said.

Like the bolded part.

I never said all the non-protestors were filled with murderous rage. I pointed out (and backed it up with polls, and personal experience) that Egyptian muslims overwhelmingly have some very savage extremist views.
 
2012-09-18 06:23:40 PM

liam76: Stile4aly: If you reject what I say out of hand because of my faith then what's the point in arguing

He didn't reject it out of hand. He explained a number of points why he thought you were wrong (with more citations than you provided)


He first called me a liar and said it's to be expected because I'm a Muslim. If all Muslims are liars, then how can I convince him of anything.

Next, he presented a stilted summary of Muhammad's early years in Mecca which doesn't correspond with any historical view and concluding that Muhammad was a warlord, a thief, and a rapist.

Finally, he posts two hadith from Sahih Bukhari (not from the Qur'an as he mistakenly states) where Aisha discusses her betrothal to the prophet. As I've already stated, there is disagreement about the validity of the ages listed here. For what it's worth here is an article which discusses some of the inconsistencies in Aisha's narrations which lend credence to the idea that she was older than listed in the above hadith.
 
2012-09-18 06:25:27 PM

liam76: modesto: The cabbie thing was a silly anecdote.

Sure sounds like an anecdote.

I add this because taxi drivers are notoriously reliable bellwethers of all things political here


modesto: Not surprised you won't reply to my question of why the 18 million non-protesting muslims in this city were somehow able to restrain their murderous rage and convincingly appear to not give a fark

Mostly because you are pulling shiat out of your ass that doesn't have fark all to do with what I said.

Like the bolded part.

I never said all the non-protestors were filled with murderous rage. I pointed out (and backed it up with polls, and personal experience) that Egyptian muslims overwhelmingly have some very savage extremist views.


So if they have such savage and extremist views, why didn't they act on them by joining these protests or turning violent against non-Muslims in Egypt?
 
2012-09-18 06:30:57 PM

Stile4aly: liam76: modesto: The cabbie thing was a silly anecdote.

Sure sounds like an anecdote.

I add this because taxi drivers are notoriously reliable bellwethers of all things political here


modesto: Not surprised you won't reply to my question of why the 18 million non-protesting muslims in this city were somehow able to restrain their murderous rage and convincingly appear to not give a fark

Mostly because you are pulling shiat out of your ass that doesn't have fark all to do with what I said.

Like the bolded part.

I never said all the non-protestors were filled with murderous rage. I pointed out (and backed it up with polls, and personal experience) that Egyptian muslims overwhelmingly have some very savage extremist views.

So if they have such savage and extremist views, why didn't they act on them by joining these protests or turning violent against non-Muslims in Egypt?


Laziness.
 
2012-09-18 07:14:55 PM

Joe Blowme: How bout we read the quran? Same? just with out all the rape, incest, death, and destruction right?


Maybe I've missed it, but did you ever answer modesto's question of what you were doing in the Middle East in the 90s?
 
2012-09-18 07:19:59 PM
i48.tinypic.com

/ What is it with pictures of protesting yokels and the words "Go Packers" that seem to go together so well?
// Go. Packers.
 
2012-09-18 07:21:58 PM

Stile4aly: Next, he presented a stilted summary of Muhammad's early years in Mecca which doesn't correspond with any historical view and concluding that Muhammad was a warlord, a thief, and a rapist.


It corresponds far better than what you described.

Stile4aly: So if they have such savage and extremist views, why didn't they act on them by joining these protests or turning violent against non-Muslims in Egypt?


Having savage extremist views doesn't mean you are retarted, or that you don't have a job, or event hat you can't realize that burning shiat in front of the US embassy doesn't really hurt the people behind the film.

Doesn't change the fact that those polls show those views are there in Egyptian Muslims and very prominent.

As far as violence against non-Muslims, you may want to read up on why so many coptics were afraid when Mubarak left (and read up on those that were attacked before he even left).
 
2012-09-18 07:41:26 PM

EmmaLou: Sorry to point it out, but the Jews, Christians, and Muslims all worship the same deity. I know nobody in any of those groups wants to hear that they're basically the same...but they are.


No they don't.

It is cute when I hear similar condescending shiat from Mormons. Normally me pointing out that if I said I was a Mormon, but I have a new Holy book, and most of their stuff is wrong, then point out a whole new set of rules, and afterlife then I asked them if we worshipped the same God, they would admit it was different.

I was brought up Catholic and they were pretty clear on teaching that it was insulting to Jews to say shiat like that.

It take s a lot of ignorance of other faiths to make those blanket statements. You are basically saying others are wrong and you are right on how to worship the same God. What is really funny to hear claims like that muslims is their treatment of the Bahá'í (and to a lesser extent the druze).
 
2012-09-18 09:07:58 PM
Rosemary and Time #ParsleySage
 
2012-09-18 09:52:05 PM

liam76: EmmaLou: Sorry to point it out, but the Jews, Christians, and Muslims all worship the same deity. I know nobody in any of those groups wants to hear that they're basically the same...but they are.

No they don't.

It is cute when I hear similar condescending shiat from Mormons. Normally me pointing out that if I said I was a Mormon, but I have a new Holy book, and most of their stuff is wrong, then point out a whole new set of rules, and afterlife then I asked them if we worshipped the same God, they would admit it was different.

I was brought up Catholic and they were pretty clear on teaching that it was insulting to Jews to say shiat like that.

It take s a lot of ignorance of other faiths to make those blanket statements. You are basically saying others are wrong and you are right on how to worship the same God. What is really funny to hear claims like that muslims is their treatment of the Bahá'í (and to a lesser extent the druze).


Well, to be fair, they're all kooky. The Mormons have their own special brand of crazy going on.

/recovered mormon
 
2012-09-18 09:58:48 PM
Let's make a lot of farking money #arbitRAGE
 
2012-09-18 10:09:25 PM

JackieRabbit: We simply must come up with a perverse sex act to call "a Muslim Rage".


How about a cocktail named "Muslim Rage"?

/served in a prophet-shaped glass?
 
2012-09-18 11:36:29 PM

susansto-helit: atomicmask: Agreed to an arranged marriage at 45, find out wife is 10, to old for me! #muslimrage

Decaf. Look into it.

/the Twitter jokes were funny, Frances


Actually it was kinda funny, lighten up Frances.
 
2012-09-19 12:26:49 AM

liam76: Stile4aly: Next, he presented a stilted summary of Muhammad's early years in Mecca which doesn't correspond with any historical view and concluding that Muhammad was a warlord, a thief, and a rapist.

It corresponds far better than what you described.


No reputable historian relates the origins of Islam in anything close to the same vein as atomicmask. It reads more like something out of Robert Spencer or Pam Geller's websites.

Stile4aly: So if they have such savage and extremist views, why didn't they act on them by joining these protests or turning violent against non-Muslims in Egypt?

Having savage extremist views doesn't mean you are retarted, or that you don't have a job, or event hat you can't realize that burning shiat in front of the US embassy doesn't really hurt the people behind the film.


So, if thousands of Egyptians had turned out to protest or had become violent that would have proved your point. The fact that thousands did not turn out to protest also proves your point because all the others really want to protest and get violent, but can't because they have to be at work the next day.

Doesn't change the fact that those polls show those views are there in Egyptian Muslims and very prominent.

So, are you more interested in working to change those views, or simply demonizing people?

As far as violence against non-Muslims, you may want to read up on why so many coptics were afraid when Mubarak left (and read up on those that were attacked before he even left).

I am well aware of the historical persecution of Copts in Egypt, and although this persecution has not disappeared since the revolution, I believe there is hope of progress. Morsi has met with Coptic leaders, he has promised publically that the freedom of religion of Copts will be respected, and has promised to appoint a Copt to his cabinet. Again, the proof will be in the pudding.
 
2012-09-19 12:30:27 AM

ThrobblefootSpectre: Stile4aly:

FWIW, big respect points for not becoming childish and when faced with gang antagonism. And for analyzing the recent events in a reasonable way, without trying to shift blame or attention away from the topic.

You would probably be one of the few people on fark I could disagree with and have a fruitful conversation with at the same time.


I appreciate it. It's nice to know my desire to be civil isn't fruitless.
 
2012-09-19 05:36:36 AM

JackieRabbit: Muslims

Like

Nickleback


Great; you're just trying to keep the cycle of violence going, aren't you? How many lives will be required to atone for your outrageous comments, Infidel?

Also:
Been in a pot too long, now I'm ten days old #Pease PorRidge
 
2012-09-19 06:09:28 AM
The further from the fulcrum, the greater the mechanical advantage #LEVERAGE
 
2012-09-19 06:59:24 AM

Stile4aly: No reputable historian relates the origins of Islam in anything close to the same vein as atomicmask. It reads more like something out of Robert Spencer or Pam Geller's websites.


No reputable historian said he was asked to "behave" wrt other religions before he was tossed out? Mo didn't tell them their gods were false?

What did the Quarish do other than boycott him?

Odd that you are trying to justify Mo as not a warlord for raiding traders who didn't attack him because he had "strategic goals" to take a city in order to "protect hsi followers".

Once again, his version is far closer to anything I have read by historians (or what I got from the Koran).

Even if you dislike the connotation of "warlord*" he still lead people in battle and raided peopel who weren't attacking him for a stable, open and free society I will take a guy who idolizes a hippy who said turn the other cheek over that any day of the week. (*even though he was the leader both militarily and civily of the people he was directing, fighting for his goals which makes the definition correct regardless of how you like to see it)

Stile4aly: So, if thousands of Egyptians had turned out to protest or had become violent that would have proved your point. The fact that thousands did not turn out to protest also proves your point because all the others really want to protest and get violent, but can't because they have to be at work the next day.


No. What proves my point is the periodic violence towards non-muslims, and polls showing support for such actions, including things like death for apostacy, stoning fro adultery, and cutting off the hands for theives. You are trying to distract from that violence, and those pollls by pointing to 1 protest and saying since most muslims weren't there then they had no support (and I didn't just say work did I, I also pointed out that protesting there isn;t going to magically produce the peopel who made the film).

Stile4aly: So, are you more interested in working to change those views, or simply demonizing people?


You can't get real change unless people recognize it.

If you think people who change their faith deserve to be killed you are a farking savage in my book, call that "demonizing them" if you want, but it seems to me you are just apologizing for them.


Stile4aly: he has promised publically that the freedom of religion of Copts will be respected


He has also said they will base laws off the Koran. Those two ideas are mutually exclusive (see the point about apostocy above).
 
2012-09-19 08:24:51 AM
John Tesh's music really sucks! #NewAge
 
2012-09-19 09:00:16 AM

Stile4aly: Hermione_Granger: Now that my buzz is gone...

I think it's long past time we stopped judging Muslims or whoever by the worst of the people in their society. It would be like everybody judging America by the KKK.

We have to stop listening to the derp and start listening to the reasonable folks.

Haven't you been paying attention to atomicmask? There are no reasonable Muslims. I know what you're thinking; "I work with a Muslim guy, he seems nice enough" but that's what he wants you to believe. Beneath the surface, he seethes with rage at your stupid dhimmi face. You can't trust him because if you do then one day he'll invite you to dinner. You'll go to his house thinking about how evolved you are and how you're promoting cultural awareness and then BAM, the old fork in the eye.


There are no reasonable white people.
 
2012-09-19 11:23:53 AM

Publikwerks: Daughter is dating a Goy #JEWISHRAGE



Do lesbian Jews date Goyls???
 
2012-09-19 11:30:36 AM

lostcat: atomicmask: pute kisses like a man: people seem to use this term freedom of speech. wtf does it have to do with anything?

why on earth would anyone else give a flying fark about our constitutional protections? it's just the way this country does it, it's not some mandate from the law of the universe. no one else has to give a flying fark about freedom of speech, plus, it only protects you from government censorship... it doesn't protect you from being an ass and pissing people off

You have no concept about the law, or its intended purpose or meaning. It does not protect us from pissing people off, it protects us from violence because we pissed someone off. It is that whole "Civilized society" thing we got going for us. The law exists to protect the few from the many and the weak from the strong. Why on earth should we care if we offend people half way around the world?

The First Amendment protects individuals from laws passed that would restrict what we are allowed to say. It was intended more to let citizens speak out against the government, than to allow people to say whatever they want about any topic.

The freedom of speech also does not include:

- Speech that contains "fighting words" (insulting or abusive language that is likely to cause "an immediate violent response");
- Obscenities;
- Language or communication directed to inciting, producing or urging the commission of a crime;
- Defamation - words or communication that are false and untrue and are intended to injure the character and reputation of another person;
- Abusive, obscene or harassing telephone calls;
- Loud speech and loud noise meant by volume to disturb others or to create a clear and present danger of violence.


I've bolded the relevant point above, which is that saying something that results in the commission of a crime is not protected speech.

Producing a video with the sole intent to disturb shiat, possibly getting American citizens killed, is just willfully negligent, if not criminal, and the asshole responsible should be facing charges.


You're an idiot. That exception is narrowly confined to directly exhorting a specific person or group to commit a specific crime. You can say "Black people are subhuman." all day, and it's not illegal. You can't say "Black people are subhuman, kill one tonight." See the difference?

There's a disturbing temporal chauvinism in your implicit assumption that our generation alone and for all time, has achieved total consciousness.

Many of the ideals we hold most precious today were at one time offensive and ridiculous to every right, thinking person. Punishing people for the actions others take in response to their views isn't just unAmerican, it's dehumanizing.

It stems from the handwringing desire to soothe every hurt feeling and write away every stray trear. The only way to ensure no one ever gets their feelings hurt is to prevent everyone from expressing anything remotely controversial or challenging. A life of neutral stasis. fark that noise.
 
2012-09-19 01:14:29 PM

Marine1: Went to a rap club, found out my cotillion dance classes just didn't cut it on the dance floor. #WASPRAGE



Tried to study entomology, got stung on the final exam. #wasprage
 
2012-09-19 01:23:57 PM

Debeo Summa Credo: During gang-rape of blonde reporter, some of Abdul's jizz got on my leg #MUSLIMRAGE

/sorry. too far I know.



I got nothing but altergirls in my parish. #preiestrage
 
2012-09-20 01:14:20 AM

serialsuicidebomber: Debeo Summa Credo: During gang-rape of blonde reporter, some of Abdul's jizz got on my leg #MUSLIMRAGE

/sorry. too far I know.


I got nothing but altergirls in my parish. #preiestrage



DAMN, I meant '#priestrage'.
 
2012-09-20 01:21:57 AM

liam76: modesto: liam76: modesto: liam76:

blah blah blah (breath) blah blah blah....... Expecting honesty out of a cab driver on his feelings towards your country is like expecting honesty out of a hooker on how you kiss.



You can kiss a hooker???!!!???

-need to book an appointment STAT!
 
2012-09-20 01:39:20 AM

L33t Squirrel: Can't get angry, found inner peace.
#Zen



Took my meds, all is calm now. #quakerrage
 
2012-09-20 11:06:03 AM

serialsuicidebomber: serialsuicidebomber: Debeo Summa Credo: During gang-rape of blonde reporter, some of Abdul's jizz got on my leg #MUSLIMRAGE

/sorry. too far I know.


I got nothing but altergirls in my parish. #preiestrage


DAMN, I meant '#priestrage'.


It was still funny...
 
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