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2012-09-18 09:33:44 AM  
Screw that. I want nanocleaners NOW.
 
2012-09-18 09:34:24 AM  
Are you my mummy?
 
2012-09-18 10:04:32 AM  
Does that mean I'll finally be able to eat pizza for dinner, every day?
 
2012-09-18 10:20:03 AM  
They'll also help you get stronger, have better eyesight, make you run faster, protect you from small arms fire, be able to heal you, light the way around you....

motivateurself.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-09-18 11:00:09 AM  
upload.wikimedia.org
Nothing could go wrong with this.
 
2012-09-18 11:00:50 AM  
Shouldn't we have had nanobots in our blood stream about 4 years ago?
 
2012-09-18 11:02:22 AM  
In the future medical nanorobots will clear our arteries and veins, greenlight repeats
 
2012-09-18 11:05:27 AM  
ah crap

images4.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2012-09-18 11:07:42 AM  

Cythraul: Does that mean I'll finally be able to eat pizza for dinner, every day?


You'll be able to eat sketti sauce made from microwaved Country Crock and ketchup every day!
 
2012-09-18 11:08:30 AM  

pute kisses like a man: ah crap


Skinner died from a nanorobot infestation? Well, that's too bad. Another reason I'm glad I skipped the last two seasons.
 
2012-09-18 11:16:33 AM  

wildstarr: Shouldn't we have had nanobots in our blood stream about 4 years ago?


First human test case of nanobots was in 1997 with FDA approval for general use coming in 2003. Unfortunately production problems has kept them limited and we decided not to tell the stupid people about them.
 
2012-09-18 11:18:33 AM  
Yeah, I'm pretty convinced that this whole "eating right and exercising thing" is a fad that's going to pass. Fifteen, twenty years from now we'll look back and realize we wasted a lot of time and energy doing shiat we hated and eating food we hate when we'll have the technology to make us thin and healthy for the rest of our lives.
 
2012-09-18 11:19:12 AM  
upload.wikimedia.org
 
2012-09-18 11:24:27 AM  

meanmutton: Yeah, I'm pretty convinced that this whole "eating right and exercising thing" is a fad that's going to pass. Fifteen, twenty years from now we'll look back and realize we wasted a lot of time and energy doing shiat we hated and eating food we hate when we'll have the technology to make us thin and healthy for the rest of our lives.


Well, maybe the rich will.
 
2012-09-18 11:27:42 AM  

Cythraul: meanmutton: Yeah, I'm pretty convinced that this whole "eating right and exercising thing" is a fad that's going to pass. Fifteen, twenty years from now we'll look back and realize we wasted a lot of time and energy doing shiat we hated and eating food we hate when we'll have the technology to make us thin and healthy for the rest of our lives.

Well, maybe the rich will.


There aren't enough rich for that. Just like any other luxury product, it'll start with the rich and will bleed down. You make more money selling something at a 25% profit to 10,000,000 people than a 5,000% profit to 50 people.
 
2012-09-18 11:37:51 AM  

meanmutton: Yeah, I'm pretty convinced that this whole "eating right and exercising thing" is a fad that's going to pass. Fifteen, twenty years from now we'll look back and realize we wasted a lot of time and energy doing shiat we hated and eating food we hate when we'll have the technology to make us thin and healthy for the rest of our lives.


We already do.

oldspoke.com

/ hot, too hot to be mine, but one can dream...
 
2012-09-18 11:41:31 AM  
Resistance is futile
 
2012-09-18 11:55:31 AM  

theorellior: pute kisses like a man: ah crap

Skinner died from a nanorobot infestation? Well, that's too bad. Another reason I'm glad I skipped the last two seasons.


he didn't die irreversibly. (I'm watching on netflix, I never actually finished the show before)
 
2012-09-18 11:59:19 AM  
www.startrek.com 
 
2012-09-18 12:28:26 PM  
Well, they're probably not going to be what one traditionally thinks of when one says "Nanorobot". They're not going to be Tachikomas or anything. What's more likely is specialized or complex structures with different functions/chemical reactions? I imagine they'd be more like a specialized chemical machine, in a sense: like a super-specialized bacteria. Not, like, a robot with grasper arms (though I suppose that's possible, but... if it's on the size as shown in the drawing, that's, uh, more on the micron scale than the nano scale, and would be just as much of a risk at causing blockage...)

But, hopefully!

Currently, it's actually rather hard to assemble nanostructures. There's two methods: Top down (lithographically etching nanostructures) and bottom up (chemical self-assembly).

The top down method is limited by the wavelength of light/an electron beam/etc. There's only so small/finely detailed a structure you can make.

Bottom up has issues, too. Namely, there's often a high degree of disorder. Like, if you want to stick spheres to the end of a rod to make a barbell shape, you also get spheres sticking to spheres, rods sticking to rods, spheres sticking to the SIDE of rods... basically a lot of crap you don't want, and it's hard to filter it all out...

But we know bottom-up, ordered self-assembly is *possible*, because... well, viruses do it.

I hope my advisor's work pans out. (We're working on an optically driven method of self-assembly: It's really neat and pretty clever, but I've rambled a lot here already!)

/WHEEEEE nanophysics. At least the field I'm in is growing and new!
 
2012-09-18 12:33:49 PM  

Quantum Apostrophe: [upload.wikimedia.org image 200x296]


You Immortality Nutters are just adorable. In spite of all the evidence of your own eyes, the laws of physics, and well-known principles of computer science, you're absolutely unswayable in your faith that we'll make magic machines the size of blood cells, which will just crawl in and Fix Everything. Never mind that the combined brainpower of one of the most advanced nations on Earth exerts itself to the limit to produce a thousand-kilogram robot that can cautiously crawl a few inches per day. I'm sure all the problems of power, heat dissipation, artificial intelligence and immune-system interaction can just be handwaved away.
 
2012-09-18 12:46:50 PM  

theorellior: pute kisses like a man: ah crap

Skinner died from a nanorobot infestation? Well, that's too bad. Another reason I'm glad I skipped the last two seasons.


No. Also, you suck.
 
2012-09-18 12:49:06 PM  

jfarkinB: Quantum Apostrophe: [upload.wikimedia.org image 200x296]

You Immortality Nutters are just adorable. In spite of all the evidence of your own eyes, the laws of physics, and well-known principles of computer science, you're absolutely unswayable in your faith that we'll make magic machines the size of blood cells, which will just crawl in and Fix Everything. Never mind that the combined brainpower of one of the most advanced nations on Earth exerts itself to the limit to produce a thousand-kilogram robot that can cautiously crawl a few inches per day. I'm sure all the problems of power, heat dissipation, artificial intelligence and immune-system interaction can just be handwaved away.


Yes, it's not like cells themselves aren't already filled with such machines. We'll never, ever understand those patterns of atoms. We will, however, have mastery over matter when it comes to Space Elevators and warp drives.

Very weak, sir. Very, very weak. Not even entertaining. I can smell the desperation though. You really wish we could never understand cells but build warp drives...
 
2012-09-18 12:54:19 PM  

jfarkinB: Quantum Apostrophe: [upload.wikimedia.org image 200x296]

You Immortality Nutters are just adorable. In spite of all the evidence of your own eyes, the laws of physics, and well-known principles of computer science, you're absolutely unswayable in your faith that we'll make magic machines the size of blood cells, which will just crawl in and Fix Everything. Never mind that the combined brainpower of one of the most advanced nations on Earth exerts itself to the limit to produce a thousand-kilogram robot that can cautiously crawl a few inches per day. I'm sure all the problems of power, heat dissipation, artificial intelligence and immune-system interaction can just be handwaved away.


Let's just not respond to captain Anti-Space Sphere and discuss the topic at hand. It is, after all, possible to be interested both in longeveity treatments/nanobots, and also space exploration/looking upwards. He's like some of my fellow physicists, who take a view I dislike: Those who look down their nose at people who *aren't* physicists. "Oh. You're an engineer. *Sniff*." Or look at biology with disdain, etc. Thankfully, that sort of person seems to be growing rarer, which is good. Science is a shared endeavor, after all (especially nanotech, where chemistry, biology, and physics all sort of ram into each other at high speeds!)

So let's ignore the man crippled by his fear of his own mortality, and look at the subject at hand. Even if it doesn't promise immortality, nanophysics/nanotech DOES provide a lot of really fascinating potential cancer treatments, even now! Some of them rely on an effect called Surface Plasmon Resonance, which is actually not nearly as terrifying/confusing as it sounds-I'd be happy to try and explain it, if you wish!)
 
2012-09-18 12:58:46 PM  
Isn't that what you're supposed to tell the ladies? Hey baby, they're like little nanobots that clean up your system. If you spit, you don't get to reap the benefits.
 
2012-09-18 01:23:38 PM  

meanmutton: Cythraul: meanmutton: Yeah, I'm pretty convinced that this whole "eating right and exercising thing" is a fad that's going to pass. Fifteen, twenty years from now we'll look back and realize we wasted a lot of time and energy doing shiat we hated and eating food we hate when we'll have the technology to make us thin and healthy for the rest of our lives.

Well, maybe the rich will.

There aren't enough rich for that. Just like any other luxury product, it'll start with the rich and will bleed down. You make more money selling something at a 25% profit to 10,000,000 people than a 5,000% profit to 50 people.


That's assuming we have a middle class left in even the near future.
 
2012-09-18 01:50:14 PM  

ThatDarkFellow: No. Also, you suck.


Okay. Thanks. I think.
 
2012-09-18 01:59:23 PM  
We're running out of things that trim the fat of the human race. We need a new plague.
 
2012-09-18 02:16:03 PM  
would you trust your heath to these guys?

images.wikia.com
 
2012-09-18 02:20:07 PM  
I read a sci fi short story once where citizens of the future had nanobots, controlled and recharged through a vertebrae-shaped device (where they remove one of your upper vertebra, and replace it with this titanium electronic one). This device drew power from your blood glucose (yay! weight loss!), monitored your vitals (a heartattack you say?!) and could even perform some motor functions such as allowing you to go jogging whilst reading a book in your head and not feel the exertion.

Damn, I wish I could find that story.

/a Deus-Ex, Crysis solution is also acceptable
//needs me some nano-armor
 
2012-09-18 02:26:15 PM  
They'll also change the battlefield as we know it.

/ID-tagged slashies
//In ID-tagged comments
///Poested by ID-tagged farkers
 
2012-09-18 03:52:01 PM  

Quantum Apostrophe: Very weak, sir. Very, very weak. Not even entertaining. I can smell the desperation though. You really wish we could never understand cells but build warp drives...


Damn, but you're easily trolled by your own schtick.
 
2012-09-18 04:10:55 PM  
Hooray sausagebots!
 
2012-09-18 04:21:40 PM  

Nefarious: would you trust your heath to these guys?

[images.wikia.com image 645x421]


You kidding?

I got my hair done by Shelli the other day and my hair ended up looking like Charlie Sheen's in Major League. I wouldn't trust her any where near my aorta!
 
2012-09-18 04:33:10 PM  
Nanobots wage their battle to destroy the evil forces of cholesterol...
 
2012-09-18 04:46:51 PM  

jfarkinB: Quantum Apostrophe: [upload.wikimedia.org image 200x296]

You Immortality Nutters are just adorable. In spite of all the evidence of your own eyes, the laws of physics, and well-known principles of computer science, you're absolutely unswayable in your faith that we'll make magic machines the size of blood cells, which will just crawl in and Fix Everything. Never mind that the combined brainpower of one of the most advanced nations on Earth exerts itself to the limit to produce a thousand-kilogram robot that can cautiously crawl a few inches per day. I'm sure all the problems of power, heat dissipation, artificial intelligence and immune-system interaction can just be handwaved away.


Why are there so many supposed self-proclaimed technology "experts" that proudly declare that future technology is impossible?
 
2012-09-18 05:13:09 PM  

Shazam999: jfarkinB: Quantum Apostrophe: [upload.wikimedia.org image 200x296]

You Immortality Nutters are just adorable. In spite of all the evidence of your own eyes, the laws of physics, and well-known principles of computer science, you're absolutely unswayable in your faith that we'll make magic machines the size of blood cells, which will just crawl in and Fix Everything. Never mind that the combined brainpower of one of the most advanced nations on Earth exerts itself to the limit to produce a thousand-kilogram robot that can cautiously crawl a few inches per day. I'm sure all the problems of power, heat dissipation, artificial intelligence and immune-system interaction can just be handwaved away.

Why are there so many supposed self-proclaimed technology "experts" that proudly declare that future technology is impossible?


I don't think he accidentally believe that, he's just trolling QA, who barges into any thread that has to deal with space exploration calling everyone 'space nutters' and... well, a lot of his angst seems to come from some bizzaree believe that people interested in space exploration are somehow taking away from/preventing research into clinical immortality, which he apparently desperately, desperately wants discovered within his lifetime.
 
2012-09-18 05:14:16 PM  
actually, not accidentally.

I did not mean to accidentally my post.
 
2012-09-18 05:43:31 PM  
www.exotica.org.uk 

Wouldn't it be easier to just to shrink a ship full of people?
 
2012-09-18 05:53:31 PM  

Felgraf: I don't think he accidentally believe that, he's just trolling QA, who barges into any thread that has to deal with space exploration calling everyone 'space nutters' and... well, a lot of his angst seems to come from some bizzaree believe that people interested in space exploration are somehow taking away from/preventing research into clinical immortality, which he apparently desperately, desperately wants discovered within his lifetime.


Which isn't really a sensible thing to want. Keeping the meat machine running (or indeed replacing sections chunks of it with machinery) is one thing and exceptionally possible within our lifetimes. Would you want to be functionally immortal in a world that still has alzheimer's or dementia though? I'm honestly not too sure I would.

But he's welcome to roll the dice on the understanding that if in 100+ years it turns out he rolled snake eyes... he gets to eat a shotgun blast rather than be a perpetual drain on society.
 
2012-09-18 06:11:30 PM  

Felgraf: Shazam999: jfarkinB: Quantum Apostrophe: [upload.wikimedia.org image 200x296]

You Immortality Nutters are just adorable. In spite of all the evidence of your own eyes, the laws of physics, and well-known principles of computer science, you're absolutely unswayable in your faith that we'll make magic machines the size of blood cells, which will just crawl in and Fix Everything. Never mind that the combined brainpower of one of the most advanced nations on Earth exerts itself to the limit to produce a thousand-kilogram robot that can cautiously crawl a few inches per day. I'm sure all the problems of power, heat dissipation, artificial intelligence and immune-system interaction can just be handwaved away.

Why are there so many supposed self-proclaimed technology "experts" that proudly declare that future technology is impossible?

I don't think he accidentally believe that, he's just trolling QA, who barges into any thread that has to deal with space exploration calling everyone 'space nutters' and... well, a lot of his angst seems to come from some bizzaree believe that people interested in space exploration are somehow taking away from/preventing research into clinical immortality, which he apparently desperately, desperately wants discovered within his lifetime.


Well.. to be fair, space is big. Really big.

I think we'll be immortal before we ever set sail for the stars.
 
2012-09-18 06:41:23 PM  

Shazam999: Well.. to be fair, space is big. Really big.

I think we'll be immortal before we ever set sail for the stars.


And to be just as fair, forever is a long time. A really long time.
 
2012-09-18 06:43:29 PM  

Mentalpatient87: Shazam999: Well.. to be fair, space is big. Really big.

I think we'll be immortal before we ever set sail for the stars.

And to be just as fair, forever is a long time. A really long time.


Yeah, that's my point...
 
2012-09-18 06:45:00 PM  

Shazam999: Felgraf: Shazam999: jfarkinB: Quantum Apostrophe: [upload.wikimedia.org image 200x296]

You Immortality Nutters are just adorable. In spite of all the evidence of your own eyes, the laws of physics, and well-known principles of computer science, you're absolutely unswayable in your faith that we'll make magic machines the size of blood cells, which will just crawl in and Fix Everything. Never mind that the combined brainpower of one of the most advanced nations on Earth exerts itself to the limit to produce a thousand-kilogram robot that can cautiously crawl a few inches per day. I'm sure all the problems of power, heat dissipation, artificial intelligence and immune-system interaction can just be handwaved away.

Why are there so many supposed self-proclaimed technology "experts" that proudly declare that future technology is impossible?

I don't think he accidentally believe that, he's just trolling QA, who barges into any thread that has to deal with space exploration calling everyone 'space nutters' and... well, a lot of his angst seems to come from some bizzaree believe that people interested in space exploration are somehow taking away from/preventing research into clinical immortality, which he apparently desperately, desperately wants discovered within his lifetime.

Well.. to be fair, space is big. Really big.

I think we'll be immortal before we ever set sail for the stars.


If the little nanomachines can't keep us alive for an interstellar voyage, and we can't make the damn ship go faster, I think I'd want to be immortalized as a virtual sentience in one of those Monolith-thingys from Clarke's works. That or reboot the universe with a more reasonable speed of light. You know, whichever is less impossible.
 
2012-09-18 06:46:18 PM  

Shazam999: Well.. to be fair, space is big. Really big.


I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist's, but that's just peanuts to space.
 
2012-09-18 06:49:11 PM  

theorellior: Shazam999: Well.. to be fair, space is big. Really big.

I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist's, but that's just peanuts to space.


+1

Might have to go listen to those audiobooks again.
 
2012-09-18 08:02:29 PM  

Vaneshi: Felgraf: Would you want to be functionally immortal in a world that still has alzheimer's or dementia though? I'm honestly not too sure I would.


Being immortal sounds like a really bad idea even without alzheimer's or dementia.

I'm almost 60. The stupid has become painful to watch. I'm clogging my arteries as fast as I can.
 
2012-09-18 09:39:31 PM  
In the future medical nanorobots will clear our arteries and veins

Well hurry up! That bacon isn't going to eat itself.
 
2012-09-18 11:35:44 PM  

Felgraf: So let's ignore the man crippled by his fear of his own mortality,


But being crippled by the fear that the SPECIES will die out is perfectly normal, right? And if you're so convinced that liking life is the same as "fearing" mortality, you are welcome to stop using all the modern conveniences and advances that allow us to live longer than before.
 
2012-09-19 03:52:05 AM  
I'm kinda scared about this whole nanobots in the bloodstream bit..

Wouldn't that mean one false move and they could puncture a vein/artery, which could make you internally bleed out and die? 

Also, if this nanobot is doing the task of unclogging the fat out of our arteries... where would it place the fat that's removed? It has to come out somewhere. 

How would these nanobots be powered in order to keep doing these tasks 24-7?
 
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