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(Stuff.co.nz)   Gay actor Rupert Everett says he can't imagine anything worse than being raised by two gay dads, and there's too many children on the planet anyway. Wait, what?   (stuff.co.nz) divider line 151
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2012-09-18 04:45:30 AM
He's entitled to his opinion, but do us a favor Rupert, keep it to yourself. We really don't need to hear about your mommy issues, and too many kids on the planet?

I think you flunked basic biology there mister, unless you know some secret about two guys being able to make a baby together that everyone else on the planet doesn't know about.
 
2012-09-18 05:27:31 AM
Apparently he's no homersexual.
 
2012-09-18 05:36:28 AM
Now the Sunday Times has quoted Everett saying his mother Sara had met his boyfriend but "still wishes I had a wife and kids". "She thinks children need a father and a mother adults who respect each other and work together in the best interests of the child, and I agree with her," he said.

FTFY.

Having differing sets of genitals doesn't automatically make people good parents.
 
2012-09-18 06:02:10 AM
The never ending argument pops up again: is it possible to be a bigot against your own kind?

I would say yes, others would say no. Kinda like the chicken or the egg problem in the fact that it probably never will be solved.
 
2012-09-18 06:06:43 AM
Well there are too many kids in the world but I'd think that two dudes adopting one of them would be part of the solution, not the problem.
 
2012-09-18 06:56:28 AM
New York City:

Masturbating on women in the subway: OK
Serving someone a 20 ounce Coke: THAT'S AGAINST THE LAW!
 
2012-09-18 07:02:04 AM
FTFA:
"In the US, the Family Equality Council responded by saying 30 years of scientific research showed overwhelmingly that children raised by parents who were LGBT (lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender) did as well as children raised by homosexual parents."
hunh, 30 years.


/hopes there's a word missing in there....
 
2012-09-18 07:04:09 AM

sno man: FTFA:
"In the US, the Family Equality Council responded by saying 30 years of scientific research showed overwhelmingly that children raised by parents who were LGBT (lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender) did as well as children raised by homosexual parents."
hunh, 30 years.


/hopes there's a word missing in there....


Parents care for their children and raise them right regardless of their sexual orientation? What kind of bullshiat are you pulling, sir? HAVE YOU GOT NO RESPECT FOR JESUS? GO BACK TO WORSHIPING FARTBONGO YOU FREAK.
 
2012-09-18 07:11:49 AM
I think Rupert has a few issues going on, but mum is number one. She needs to get over the fact he's gay and not going to give her a biological grandchild. No wonder he doesn't want kids. I think he got his mum's thought/speech filter too.
 
2012-09-18 07:17:43 AM

cman: sno man: FTFA:
"In the US, the Family Equality Council responded by saying 30 years of scientific research showed overwhelmingly that children raised by parents who were LGBT (lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender) did as well as children raised by homosexual parents."
hunh, 30 years.


/hopes there's a word missing in there....

Parents care for their children and raise them right regardless of their sexual orientation? What kind of bullshiat are you pulling, sir? HAVE YOU GOT NO RESPECT FOR JESUS? GO BACK TO WORSHIPING FARTBONGO YOU FREAK.


Especially the part where it says that LGBT did as well as homosexuals. I think the research might have been a little narrow there.
 
2012-09-18 07:19:09 AM

Walker: New York City:

Masturbating on women in the subway: OK
Serving someone a 20 ounce Coke: THAT'S AGAINST THE LAW!


Does Rupert have some hobbies we're not aware of?
 
2012-09-18 07:27:06 AM

Mugato: Well there are too many kids in the world but I'd think that two dudes adopting one of them would be part of the solution, not the problem.


Yeah I'm not sure if he thinks they just get eaten by vultures if they aren't adopted or what.
 
2012-09-18 07:27:58 AM
The one "out" gay actor in the West who can't f*cking act. . .
 
2012-09-18 07:30:45 AM

strangeluck: He's entitled to his opinion, but do us a favor Rupert, keep it to yourself.


Why do you have a problem with Free Speech?
 
2012-09-18 07:31:16 AM
Sure, kids need both a Mother and Father figure in their lives, but that role can be accomplished through extended family. As long as there are two adults demonstrating a loving relationship raising the child I don't see why they have to be different genders.
 
2012-09-18 07:31:25 AM
Would depend on your gay dads, I guess. Richard Simmons and Little Richard would be unbearable as your parents. Anderson Cooper and Stephen Fry would probably be pretty sweet.
 
2012-09-18 07:31:50 AM

dittybopper: strangeluck: He's entitled to his opinion, but do us a favor Rupert, keep it to yourself.

Why do you have a problem with Free Speech?


It doesn't fit the agenda.
 
2012-09-18 07:32:55 AM
Is Dumbass tag for subby? If more gay people were like Rupert, society might have a chance.
 
2012-09-18 07:32:57 AM

sno man: cman: sno man: FTFA:
"In the US, the Family Equality Council responded by saying 30 years of scientific research showed overwhelmingly that children raised by parents who were LGBT (lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender) did as well as children raised by homosexual parents."
hunh, 30 years.


/hopes there's a word missing in there....

Parents care for their children and raise them right regardless of their sexual orientation? What kind of bullshiat are you pulling, sir? HAVE YOU GOT NO RESPECT FOR JESUS? GO BACK TO WORSHIPING FARTBONGO YOU FREAK.

Especially the part where it says that LGBT did as well as homosexuals. I think the research might have been a little narrow there.


Well, that's certainly one way to get the results you want.

In other news, children raised by straight couples did as well as those raised by heterosexuals. Film at 11:00.
 
2012-09-18 07:34:20 AM
Meh.
 
2012-09-18 07:36:11 AM
I agree with the too many children part.

/DNRTFA
 
2012-09-18 07:44:28 AM
WTF... a gay man can't have an opinion that's different from what apparently all other gays think? So... does he lose his gay card or something?


and yeah... fark free speech.
 
2012-09-18 07:44:44 AM
I can certainly see where he's coming from. If his mother doesn't support him and his career has been limited due to his sexual orientation -- you certainly have plenty of reasons to think that a kid with two dads would have a lot of hurdles. I can't disagree there.

I also don't feel that two dads or two moms would make worse parents than a mother and father.

Frankly though, he also sounds like more than a bit of a momma's boy and I half wonder if his comments are more a result of his upbringing and his mother than actual facts.
 
2012-09-18 07:45:33 AM

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: Richard Simmons and Little Richard would be unbearable as your parents.


Little Richard Simmons.
 
2012-09-18 07:50:22 AM

strangeluck: I think you flunked basic biology there mister, unless you know some secret about two guys being able to make a baby together that everyone else on the planet doesn't know about.


Well, we may not be able to make babies, but dammit, we're still gonna try!
 
2012-09-18 07:51:03 AM

Simonsezz: WTF... a gay man can't have an opinion that's different from what apparently all other gays think? So... does he lose his gay card or something?


and yeah... fark free speech.


Because if you criticize opinions you don't agree with, that's stifling free speech. Got it.
 
2012-09-18 07:53:21 AM
I've never adopted a child before. Can someone here who has explain to me what step in the adoption causes another child to be created?

/Why haven't I heard of this baby-making machine yet?
 
2012-09-18 07:54:07 AM
I'm Straight

CSB: Best friend has a gay dad and preferred to grow up with him since his mom was more than slightly off her rocker. As he liked to say, "According to Pat Robertson, we're destroying America. Dad is gay and I'm an atheist."

Meanwhile, my straight parents had a crappy marriage (which they stuck through because that was what they were "supped to do") that the kids ending up paying the price for.

As said above in this thread, type of genitals =/= good parenting.
 
2012-09-18 07:54:19 AM
What a twat. Next thing you know, Ice Tea (or however you spell it) Will be saying he doesn't belive in interracial couples.

Any who, wouldn't you rather have a set of gay parents that loved each other and you, as opposed to straight parents who fought all the time and the bitterness trickled down to how you were treated?
 
2012-09-18 07:54:49 AM
"All in the best possible taste!!"

RIP Kenney Everet, you flaming looney, you!

/not obscure to brits of a certain generation
 
2012-09-18 07:55:14 AM

miss diminutive: Walker: New York City:

Masturbating on women in the subway: OK
Serving someone a 20 ounce Coke: THAT'S AGAINST THE LAW!

Does Rupert have some hobbies we're not aware of?


Methinks someone got distracted while reading the article.
 
2012-09-18 07:57:54 AM
I don't think any 2 random people are likely to do a very good job raising a human being, I don't think gender matters much. Studies seem to back this up.
 
2012-09-18 07:58:10 AM

RadicalEryn82: Any who, wouldn't you rather have a set of gay parents that loved each other and you, as opposed to straight parents who fought all the time and the bitterness trickled down to how you were treated?


Speaking from experience: Yes!

I do think that good role models of both genders should be in a child's life so they understand the other gender and treat them with respect. However, that can be an aunt/uncle, Grandparent, or a best friend of the family. It doesn't have to be a Mommy or a Daddy.

In fact, in certain Polynesian tribes where lines of decent or traced matirlineally, it is the mother's brother who takes on what we would consider the "father role" in a child's life. So it does not have to be a biological parent.
 
2012-09-18 07:58:17 AM

markfara: Simonsezz: WTF... a gay man can't have an opinion that's different from what apparently all other gays think? So... does he lose his gay card or something?


and yeah... fark free speech.

Because if you criticize opinions you don't agree with, that's stifling free speech. Got it.


Criticizing the opinion is one thing. That's more free speech, which is inherently good. Trying to *STIFLE* it by saying "He's entitled to his opinion, but do us a favor Rupert, keep it to yourself." is bad. It's using free speech in an attempt to stifle free speech.

Now, I recognize that there *IS* a bit of a contradiction here, but I'm *NOT* saying that strangeluck should keep his opinion to himself, which I think is an important distinction. He's entitled to his opinion, and to shout it out to the World, and I'm just as entitled to point out that his opinion is wrong, in *MY* opinion.

/Next post I will emphasize *RANDOM* words.
 
2012-09-18 07:59:02 AM

Walker: New York City:

Masturbating on women in the subway: OK
Serving someone a 20 ounce Coke: THAT'S AGAINST THE LAW!


Hi-jack OFF.
 
2012-09-18 07:59:55 AM
I think the Navajo do sit the same way: It's the mother's brother who helps raise the child, not the biological father.

So yeah, there is absolutely no reason that a gay couple couldn't raise a completely well-adjusted kid.
 
2012-09-18 08:00:39 AM
I will say Evertt seems to a self-hating tool. Ever since he came out, he's blamed his crappy career on being gay.
 
2012-09-18 08:01:01 AM

xanadian: strangeluck: I think you flunked basic biology there mister, unless you know some secret about two guys being able to make a baby together that everyone else on the planet doesn't know about.

Well, we may not be able to make babies, but dammit, we're still gonna try!


Try the ear next time - might get lucky.
 
2012-09-18 08:02:09 AM

strangeluck: He's entitled to his opinion, but do us a favor Rupert, keep it to yourself. We really don't need to hear about your mommy issues, and too many kids on the planet?

I think you flunked basic biology there mister, unless you know some secret about two guys being able to make a baby together that everyone else on the planet doesn't know about.


Ah yes. He should keep his opinions to himself. I'm sure if he'd spoken out in favor of guys raising children you'd be praising him, though.
 
2012-09-18 08:02:33 AM

KiplingKat872: RadicalEryn82: Any who, wouldn't you rather have a set of gay parents that loved each other and you, as opposed to straight parents who fought all the time and the bitterness trickled down to how you were treated?

Speaking from experience: Yes!

I do think that good role models of both genders should be in a child's life so they understand the other gender and treat them with respect. However, that can be an aunt/uncle, Grandparent, or a best friend of the family. It doesn't have to be a Mommy or a Daddy.

In fact, in certain Polynesian tribes where lines of decent or traced matirlineally, it is the mother's brother who takes on what we would consider the "father role" in a child's life. So it does not have to be a biological parent.


Actually, *THAT'S* true. I'm not the biological *PARENT* of the littlebopper. The distaffbopper *AND* I adopted him, so *HE* has zero genetic material in *COMMON* with us. I like *TO* think we are the ultimate Nature *VS.* Nurture argument.
 
2012-09-18 08:03:52 AM
OMG! He has a great relationship with his mother... AND he promotes it. Revoke his rainbow card! (attenuating the sarcasm)

/opinions are like aholes...
 
2012-09-18 08:04:14 AM

sno man: I think Rupert has a few issues going on, but mum is number one. She needs to get over the fact he's gay and not going to give her a biological grandchild. No wonder he doesn't want kids. I think he got his mum's thought/speech filter too.


Yup, as I read through the hail of non-sequitors which constituted that 'article', my face shape-shifted into the WTF AM I READING? clown.

An appropriate response might just be '...actors...' Had the same thought when Eastwood delivered his clunky monologue.
 
2012-09-18 08:05:47 AM
This just in: People have opinions about things!

It's not enough to just be gay anymore. Now everyone who comes out is supposed to act as banner-bearer for the gay community, marching in lockstep with all of the others and not for a second disliking who they are or wondering about how things would be different if they weren't the same. Reality just ain't like that. People dislike themselves for all sorts of reasons, and gayness is no more or less valid a reason than fatness or hair colour or that thing the skin on the end of their nose does or whatever.

Besides, unanimity from any community is downright creepy. Having a dissenter in the mix just makes the majority opinion more credible.
 
2012-09-18 08:07:47 AM
well yeah if your gay and your dads are gay then they'll be trying to pick-up your boyfriends all the time, you'll constantly be getting their spandex shorts mixed up with yours, and the house would explode from an excess of FABULOUS!

Think about living in that horror for a second and see if you can't dig up a bit of sympathy.
 
2012-09-18 08:11:18 AM

KiplingKat872: I think the Navajo do sit the same way: It's the mother's brother who helps raise the child, not the biological father.

So yeah, there is absolutely no reason that a gay couple couldn't raise a completely well-adjusted kid.


OK, so you don't think there would be a difference between "Female/Male child raising partnership" vs. "Male/Male child raising partnership" or "Female/Female child raising partnership"?

Understand that I'm not passing judgment on that, I'm merely pointing out that saying "X culture that has the mother's brother taking on the male role model" isn't the same as "No close male role model" or "No close female role model". Those two are entirely different, but you're arguing that because the male role model in some cultures isn't the actual sperm donor, they are the same.

Again, I'm not passing judgment on gay parentage, just pointing out the logical fallacy inherent in your point.
 
2012-09-18 08:12:06 AM

cman: The never ending argument pops up again: is it possible to be a bigot against your own kind?

I would say yes, others would say no. Kinda like the chicken or the egg problem in the fact that it probably never will be solved.


I came to make a joke that the angry gay fark brigade should call him a bigot, and look at you, actually making the attempt. It's amazing that you people never seem to realize how desperate and irrational you sound.
 
2012-09-18 08:13:02 AM

Flakeloaf: Besides, unanimity from any community is downright creepy. Having a dissenter in the mix just makes the majority opinion more credible.


Not only that, it's down right healthy. Sometimes the dissenter is right.
 
2012-09-18 08:15:25 AM
Oh, come on. What the hell would that guy know about being gay? Certainly not as much as straight people, apparently.
 
2012-09-18 08:16:28 AM

dittybopper: OK, so you don't think there would be a difference between "Female/Male child raising partnership" vs. "Male/Male child raising partnership" or "Female/Female child raising partnership"?

Understand that I'm not passing judgment on that, I'm merely pointing out that saying "X culture that has the mother's brother taking on the male role model" isn't the same as "No close male role model" or "No close female role model". Those two are entirely different, but you're arguing that because the male role model in some cultures isn't the actual sperm donor, they are the same.

Again, I'm not passing judgment on gay parentage, just pointing out the logical fallacy inherent in your point.


There is no logical fallacy as this proves it does not have to be a male or female as a biological parent of the child in order to have a good role model of the opposing gender to help influence them. If a grandparent or uncle/aunt is around a lot and takes care of the kid regularly, like babysitting, that provides the positive male/female role model.
 
2012-09-18 08:16:56 AM

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: Would depend on your gay dads, I guess. Richard Simmons and Little Richard would be unbearable as your parents. Anderson Cooper and Stephen Fry would probably be pretty sweet.


I didn't realize Stephen Fry was gay. I thought he was just British.
 
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