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(Reuters)   MTV exec slams pop talent TV shows for creating and promoting disposable music   (story.news.yahoo.com) divider line 184
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2003-11-25 07:02:40 AM
Great, more spin from one of the Merchants of Cool.
 
2003-11-25 07:28:12 AM
I was just about to say "At least they've quit blaming it on mp3s.", and then I spotted "Despite big hits from pop queen Christina Aguilera and rapper 50 Cent, the industry has been ravaged by Internet downloading and CD burning."
 
2003-11-25 09:11:12 AM
Well, somebody has to play music on television. Lord knows it isn't MTV.
 
2003-11-25 09:49:36 AM
Good point, Unfreakable. I remember the days you could turn on MTV and expect to see a music video. Now all you can expect to see is a rerun of a sucky reality show. I believe they trying to trim the music video programming down to 20 minutes a day and fill the rest with commercials.
 
2003-11-25 09:50:50 AM
unfreakable - that's too funny. i was just about to say "what does mtv care, they don't play any music!"
 
2003-11-25 09:55:28 AM
What the! I thought downloaders were responsible for all the bad music. Or so they would have you believe...
 
2003-11-25 09:55:55 AM
Props to the submitter. Nice use of the tag.
 
2003-11-25 09:56:34 AM
Doesn't pop = disposable?
 
2003-11-25 09:56:34 AM
Hmm, all this from the people who helped make our attention spans 23 minutes or less?
 
2003-11-25 09:57:04 AM
Would that be considered "comeuppance"?
 
2003-11-25 09:57:50 AM
There are plenty of videos on MTV...if you happen to watch from 2 A.M. - 8 A.M.
 
2003-11-25 09:59:05 AM
I have digital cable, so I have access to MTV2 and MTVHits. The funny thing is, even those channels play the same 10-15 videos ad nauseum.
 
2003-11-25 10:01:00 AM
Is there a hypocrite tag?
There should be!
Like MTV isn't disposable.
Sheesh.
 
2003-11-25 10:01:14 AM
Brilliant use of the irony tag.
 
2003-11-25 10:01:23 AM
MTV stoped being interesting way back. They used to have YO! Mtv Rap, Headbangers and loads of stuff you just didn't listen that much to.... Now it's all shait to no end. MTV UpNort, as it's called here, suck like a turbo-powered hoover.
They fixed something that wasn't broken...
 
2003-11-25 10:02:01 AM
I still think Fuse (formerly MuchMusic) has a good variety of music videos. Although they are starting to implement useless "music-related" variety shows as well.
 
2003-11-25 10:02:24 AM
typical exec clap-trap. I will concede that MTV europe does do much better than our very weak domestic version. they play music videos... that show girl's boobs. and I'm a boy.

23 minutes of that is hardly enough.
 
2003-11-25 10:02:47 AM
Oh yes, Elton, you have every right to be indignant. It's much more authentic to rehash one's old (and already overplayed) hits of the past and simply change the names...

"Goodbye, Norma Je-- Princess Diiii..."
 
2003-11-25 10:03:21 AM


Meanwhile, check out Pushmonkey from Austin. They've opened for Godsmack and Kiss (reunion tour). Great live band.

 
2003-11-25 10:03:27 AM
Hey, music industry executives, guess what? The decline in sales is related to the decline in quality!
 
2003-11-25 10:04:44 AM
Hansen, in Edinburgh for Thursday night's MTV Europe Awards, said the beleaguered music industry must hold its nerve and take time to nurture talent if it is to recover from its current slump.

Come on, let's give Fred Durst one more chance, his talent just needs some nurturing!
 
2003-11-25 10:05:02 AM
"I totally believe they have devalued us, taken us back to light entertainment and voyeurism" he said.

Um, Mr. Pot, you have a call from a Mr. Kettle on line 1, something about your appearance.
 
2003-11-25 10:06:19 AM

Wow... Ravaged by file trading/piracy. That's some mental image... Those poor bastards. Why didn't anyone tell me George Michael and Bono were pissed???

People are sick to the teeth... It is crap.

hank you Bono! somebody had to say it. Unfortunately, your band has also been Crap since Joshua Tree. That is all.
 
2003-11-25 10:06:28 AM
If he doesn't like it, he can go work for Disney. I hear their execs are outraged over the movies they produce and market.
 
2003-11-25 10:06:43 AM
Pushmonkey is pretty cool, most people would hear them and assume they are copying some mainstream bands but they've been kicking locally for years.
 
2003-11-25 10:07:24 AM


/Obvious
 
2003-11-25 10:09:00 AM
Bono, lead singer of the Irish supergroup U2, has argued: "People are sick to the teeth of processed and hyped pop bands. It is crap."

Bono Obviously came to that conclusion after releasing a couple of processed and hyped pop albums. They were crap.
 
2003-11-25 10:09:17 AM
Yep, he's right. The music industry has produced nothing of any permanence as of late. What they need is an icon that can instill a lasting legacy.



Somebody like say, Michael Jackson.
 
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2003-11-25 10:10:05 AM
I no longer want my Mtv.
You may have it back now.
 
2003-11-25 10:10:19 AM
Or get a real rock idol and then film his stupid farkin kids for a show=\
 
2003-11-25 10:10:21 AM
It's funny they will only believe it from an MTV Exec. Most of us music fans have been saying the same damn thing for 10 years now.. POP MUSIC BLOWS! We have not had one industry moving artist since Nirvana.. Sure, we've had good bands come out, low promotion from the suits, but none that rip our very foundation... STOP WITH THIS GHEY POP CRAP! Enough already... If I have to see another "vocalist" sing like a fruitcake on national television I'm gonna vomit!
 
2003-11-25 10:10:48 AM
Attention Pot, the kettle is black. I repeat the kettle is black. Thank you.
 
2003-11-25 10:11:33 AM
mtv is still around?!
 
2003-11-25 10:13:35 AM
Just to encourage such usage in the future, congratulations to the poster on using the "Ironic" tag correctly.
 
2003-11-25 10:14:54 AM
FUSE > MTV
 
2003-11-25 10:15:00 AM
fark MTV. Iced Earth has a new album coming in January.
 
2003-11-25 10:15:09 AM
By the way, the fact that mainstream music sucks right now is your fault. Yep I'm talking to YOU.

There's plenty of good music out there. The artists aren't extinct. They just don't get any play anymore. So go find them and buy them. They're on the internet. I'm not going to list any good bands because tastes vary. But, I can guarantee, if you think music on the radio sucks, with a little bit of looking you can find music that doesn't suck for sale on the internet. So fricken buy it! Or it will go away.
 
2003-11-25 10:15:43 AM
Hmmmm......Let's see. Didn't MTV give us O-Town, Da-Band, some crappy chick group, Jesse Camp, Carson Daley, Tech from the real world.....If I'm not mistaken, aren't these people no talent tools that were thrust into the spotlight and shoved down our throats? Oh yeah...how can we forget the gem "bum bum" song from one Tom Green? Wasn't that song #1 on TRL....as a joke?
 
2003-11-25 10:16:22 AM
Superoogie
I still say there should be a hypocrite tag for articles such as these.
 
2003-11-25 10:16:52 AM
i'm sick to the teeth of stupid articles such as this.
 
2003-11-25 10:17:07 AM
Amazing MTV executives complaining shows like American Idol is damaging the music industry by "manufacturing" artist. No mention of the recording industry who have been doing this for decades with girl/boy bands which has been a mainstay of MTV Networks. Even Rap/Hip-Hop which I hate is less original and more canned for widest possible distribution.
 
2003-11-25 10:17:07 AM
All the more reason to go classical . . .

Or oldies, folk, disco . . . which was pop back then, but no one listens to that do they?

(I'm referring to my age demographic, I'm not a normal 18 yr old).
 
ESH
2003-11-25 10:17:32 AM
It's been 10 years since any major shift in popular music (Soundgarden, PerlJam, Nirvana). I anxiously await another and honestly feel Austin, TX is where the next big wave will come from. There are so many great artists/bands that regularly play there: The Resentments, Flametrick Subs, Alejandro Escovedo, Toni Price, Patti Griffin, so many more. I have never been to a bad show in Austin and try to buy CD's from the artists whenever I have the money.

I really feel this will be the place to be in the next year or two. Hopefully, I can move back by then.
 
2003-11-25 10:17:54 AM
Meh.

Every generation creats crapy music with one or two peices that stand the test of time.

Sure we still play Classical music (and by that I include baroque, classical romantic etc.) but most of the music from those movements has been lost -- and for good reason, a great deal of it sucked.

Bach, Verdi, Vavaldi and other greats will contine to be played for the next 100+ years and there will be some popular music from the 20th century that makes it as well. But since so much of this pop music relies on gigantic companies spinning it and making it popular with the masses I think most of it falls by the wayside when these companies stop premoting it. Also most pop music is firmy rooted to the time period in which it was created so it doesn't have much staying power.

Where am I going with this, who knows. Just my thoughts on pop music.
 
2003-11-25 10:18:23 AM
How many 18-30 year olds got turned on to the Beatles or the Stones or Led Zep or Pink Floyd or whatever because of their parents? I'm going to guess a lot. But what music from right now are people still going to listen to in 20 years?
 
2003-11-25 10:19:57 AM
But what music from right now are people still going to listen to in 20 years


What ever it is, I promise you classical will be in the list.
 
ESH
2003-11-25 10:20:28 AM
Elwood But what music from right now are people still going to listen to in 20 years?

Beatles, Stones, Led Zep, Pink Floyd.
 
2003-11-25 10:25:54 AM
But what music from right now are people still going to listen to in 20 years?

Well....Appetite for destruction came out in like 87. 3 more years and Guns N' Roses will be what is still being played on the radio. Tupac is making more money now that he is dead than when alive and he is going on his 10th year....U2 is still around....I think, for some reason, that Justing Timberlake will be a main-stay in the music industry. SCARY shiat!!!
 
2003-11-25 10:25:57 AM
Guys, you don't get it. You see, MTV plays music... in the background of their "reality" shows. :-|
So that makes it Music/TV. Odd.

/sarcasm off
 
2003-11-25 10:26:29 AM
Why is Yahoo posting record industry memos as news?
 
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