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(Reuters)   If you picked today when Romney would flip on his tough immigration stance, collect your prize. Romney now says he will support "bi-partisan immigration reform"   (in.reuters.com) divider line 91
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2012-09-17 06:44:01 PM
Oh man, this is going to piss off the base. He'll end up walking it back by tomorrow, I bet.
 
2012-09-17 06:49:50 PM
So he was for it before he was against it and then is now for it?

/ If only there was a term for this sort of behavior...
 
2012-09-17 06:57:39 PM
A Gallup poll in June said 66 percent of Hispanic voters planned to vote for Obama, compared to 25 percent for Romney. The same survey said 20 percent of Hispanics cited unemployment as their biggest challenge, the same percentage as the issue usually associated with them, immigration. This is why Romney spent more time on jobs and the economy than immigration.

This is the demographic he's chasing, now?


His central theme on Monday was how to make a dent in the annual $1 trillion budget deficits that have been run up by Obama as the president grapples with an economy that is not producing enough tax revenue to meet the demands of government spending.

Romney said he would pursue a 5 percent cut in non-security discretionary spending on his first day in office as a first step toward bringing federal spending back to its historical level of 20 percent of GDP, down from about 25 percent now.

He would eliminate programs that are not absolutely essential and cut federal subsidies for Amtrak, the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, the Legal Services Corporation, and the National Endowments for the Arts and Humanities. He would cut the government workforce by 10 percent through attrition.

Most of these ideas he has talked about in the past but the Romney campaign said many Americans are just now tuning in the campaign and wanted to hear more about what the former Massachusetts governor would do as president.

The Obama campaign said Romney did not provide enough specifics. "The debut of Mitt Romney's new campaign of specifics was a flop," said spokeswoman Lis Smith.


So he wants to help unemployment by cutting 10% of Government workforce. I suck at math, how does that work?


Romney did not get into the specifics of how he would patch up a deep divide between Democrats and Republicans on the approach to repairing the U.S. immigration system.

The last serious attempt at an immigration overhaul was made by Republican President George W. Bush in 2007 but it collapsed in Congress as conservatives rebelled. They said the plan called for an amnesty for the estimated 12 million illegal immigrants already living in the United States.

After promising during his 2008 campaign to take on the immigration issue, Obama never followed through, leading to disappointment among various Hispanic groups.

Romney said Obama's inability to work on the problem was a failure. The president, in his video message to the business conference, pledged anew to work toward a comprehensive immigration overhaul.


Wow. He's going to follow Bush and offer amnesty to the illegals here. Sheriff Joe and Jan Brewer are going to go apesh*t on Romney. Also, I'd point out that the DREAM Act was put down by Congress and Obama had to use the Executive Order to create something temporary as the GOP would not work with him on it.
 
2012-09-17 07:07:35 PM
The Romney pander machine continues at full steam.
 
2012-09-17 07:12:21 PM
He was retroactively for it.
 
2012-09-17 07:30:07 PM
When news of this new spirit of bipartisan cooperation Mitt is embracing hits the airwaves, illegals throughout the country will be hurriedly preparing themselves for self-deportation.
 
2012-09-17 07:32:26 PM
I think I have this figured out: Romney is the guy from Memento, and the only thing he has tattooed on his arm is "Become President."
 
2012-09-17 07:35:20 PM

GAT_00: The Romney pander machine continues at full steam.


I haven't seen panders like this since Ling Ling and Hsing Hsing.
 
2012-09-17 07:35:23 PM
That doesn't MEAN anything. "Bi-partisanship" to a republican just means "capitulate to our every insane whim or we'll throw a tantrum".
 
2012-09-17 07:35:49 PM
Cristo, lo que es un culo.
 
2012-09-17 07:55:20 PM
I like how he wishes he was hispanic- he would probably win the election if he were:

My heritage, my dad as you probably know was the governor of Michigan and was the head of a car company. But he was born in Mexico, and, uh, had he been born of, uh, Mexican parents, I'd have a better shot at winning this.

But he was unfortunately born to Americans living in Mexico. He lived there for a number of years. And, uh, uh, I say that jokingly, but it would be helpful to be, uh ... Latino.
 
2012-09-17 08:27:22 PM

Nadie_AZ: I like how he wishes he was hispanic- he would probably win the election if he were:

My heritage, my dad as you probably know was the governor of Michigan and was the head of a car company. But he was born in Mexico, and, uh, had he been born of, uh, Mexican parents, I'd have a better shot at winning this.

But he was unfortunately born to Americans living in Mexico. He lived there for a number of years. And, uh, uh, I say that jokingly, but it would be helpful to be, uh ... Latino.


Well, technically he is a natural born Mexican citizen.
 
2012-09-17 08:30:11 PM

Nadie_AZ: I like how he wishes he was hispanic- he would probably win the election if he were:

My heritage, my dad as you probably know was the governor of Michigan and was the head of a car company. But he was born in Mexico, and, uh, had he been born of, uh, Mexican parents, I'd have a better shot at winning this.

But he was unfortunately born to Americans living in Mexico. He lived there for a number of years. And, uh, uh, I say that jokingly, but it would be helpful to be, uh ... Latino.


You know what's funny?

If Romney HAD been born of Mexican parents, the birthers would be all over it.
 
2012-09-17 09:01:03 PM

Osomatic: Oh man, this is going to piss off the base. He'll end up walking it back by tomorrow, I bet.


Yep. The desperate flailing has commenced in earnest. It's going to be like watching a man drowning but taking 6 weeks to do it.
 
2012-09-17 09:02:07 PM
I don't suppose he would support the Uniting American Families Act? I mean, he and the Republicans talk all the time about how pro-family they are. Oh, wait, I nearly forgot that "pro-family" is Republican code for anti-gay bigotry.
 
2012-09-17 09:18:41 PM
Did Sheriff Joe endorse Romney? Any chance this could be awkward in Arizona?
 
2012-09-17 09:24:38 PM

djkutch: Did Sheriff Joe endorse Romney? Any chance this could be awkward in Arizona?


Mormons will, by and large, ignore it. Arpaio won't care, he's suddenly airing ads about how he's protected our children from something or other. The blue hairs will continue to cling to their religion and social security checks.
 
2012-09-17 09:29:13 PM

Nadie_AZ: djkutch: Did Sheriff Joe endorse Romney? Any chance this could be awkward in Arizona?

Mormons will, by and large, ignore it. Arpaio won't care, he's suddenly airing ads about how he's protected our children from something or other. The blue hairs will continue to cling to their religion and social security checks.


It's a shame you can't be apart of sea of blue in an ocean of red up north.
 
2012-09-17 09:33:40 PM
Here's what happen. He went full derp, and it didn't work, stretched it as far as he could, there aren't enough votes there. He embraced the right on every issue they are totally wrong about, including but not limited to immigration, and now he knows he won't win unless he can suck up to immigrants and women and win over the moderates.

Reality check - it won't matter. He doesn't have the personality, and he's going to lose.
 
2012-09-17 09:50:03 PM
It doesn't matter what Romney says. He says stuff for the front page or the evening TV news; his staff makes a correction or a "walk-back" that will appear on page C-13.

And nothing he or his staff say matters, anyway, once he's taken the oath of office his job is to rubber stamp whatever the Republican majority in Congress passes. And under reconciliation, all of their tax dreams can come true with only 50% of the Senate (+ Vice President Ryan's tie-breaking vote), because budgetary items cannot be filibustered.
 
2012-09-17 09:50:28 PM
he was there scoping out new domestics. Car elevators aren't self cleaning you know.
 
2012-09-17 09:51:00 PM

djkutch: Nadie_AZ: djkutch: Did Sheriff Joe endorse Romney? Any chance this could be awkward in Arizona?

Mormons will, by and large, ignore it. Arpaio won't care, he's suddenly airing ads about how he's protected our children from something or other. The blue hairs will continue to cling to their religion and social security checks.

It's a shame you can't be apart of sea of blue in an ocean of red up north.


Yeah. It'd be nice.
 
2012-09-17 09:56:55 PM
We get it. He Romney'd his position again. If there is a fark thread every time it happens we'll never talk about anything else.
 
2012-09-17 09:57:24 PM

gilgigamesh: Osomatic: Oh man, this is going to piss off the base. He'll end up walking it back by tomorrow, I bet.

Yep. The desperate flailing has commenced in earnest. It's going to be like watching a man drowning but taking 6 weeks to do it.


You ever see footage of orcas drowning a whale calf? I picture that taking 6 years, except the calf is the GOP, and the orcas are the GOP base.
 
2012-09-17 09:57:42 PM
In other words it is really hard to win Florida when your policy is "get rid of them dirty furriners and lets the old farts die"
 
2012-09-17 09:59:48 PM
So he will have is going to are were have been in favour of an amnesty and flexible immigration reform, unless he is talking to conservatives in which case he will never ever ever do such a thing.
 
2012-09-17 10:00:27 PM
This is one of the things that actually made the base criticize Bush. And they loved Bush. Romney is cutting his own throat if he tries to push this. He's lucky he doesn't have the resolve to push anything.
 
2012-09-17 10:01:35 PM
If Hispanics support Obama, doesn't that make them part of the 47% moochers of America he doesn't care about?
 
2012-09-17 10:01:39 PM

Nadie_AZ: A Gallup poll in June said 66 percent of Hispanic voters planned to vote for Obama, compared to 25 percent for Romney. The same survey said 20 percent of Hispanics cited unemployment as their biggest challenge, the same percentage as the issue usually associated with them, immigration. This is why Romney spent more time on jobs and the economy than immigration.

This is the demographic he's chasing, now?


His central theme on Monday was how to make a dent in the annual $1 trillion budget deficits that have been run up by Obama as the president grapples with an economy that is not producing enough tax revenue to meet the demands of government spending.

Romney said he would pursue a 5 percent cut in non-security discretionary spending on his first day in office as a first step toward bringing federal spending back to its historical level of 20 percent of GDP, down from about 25 percent now.

He would eliminate programs that are not absolutely essential and cut federal subsidies for Amtrak, the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, the Legal Services Corporation, and the National Endowments for the Arts and Humanities. He would cut the government workforce by 10 percent through attrition.

Most of these ideas he has talked about in the past but the Romney campaign said many Americans are just now tuning in the campaign and wanted to hear more about what the former Massachusetts governor would do as president.

The Obama campaign said Romney did not provide enough specifics. "The debut of Mitt Romney's new campaign of specifics was a flop," said spokeswoman Lis Smith.

So he wants to help unemployment by cutting 10% of Government workforce. I suck at math, how does that work?


Romney did not get into the specifics of how he would patch up a deep divide between Democrats and Republicans on the approach to repairing the U.S. immigration system.

The last serious attempt at an immigration overhaul was made by Republican President George W. Bush in 2007 but it collapsed i ...


What I don't understand is that cutting the entire 2012 budgets of Corporation for Public Broadcasting, Amtrak, The Legal Services Corporation, and the NEA would total...let's see...0.13% of the defense budget. Yep, way to cut the deficit there, Mittens!

Seriously - these programs are not even a drop in the bucket compared to military spending - but look at who they benefit. About 554 billion dollars - about 50 times the budget of all those social programs put together - went to military contractors like Halliburton. So, to make it clear: cutting $1.9 billion in services that mostly help the poor or advance the arts is good, but cutting the $554 billion to military contractors is bad.

Just admit it, Republicans. You hate the poor and you love giving money to your rich friends.
 
2012-09-17 10:02:44 PM
In an effort to gain a few thousand latino votes across the country, Romney succeeds in preventing 10s of thousands of his base from turning out.
 
2012-09-17 10:03:07 PM
As someone who is closer to the issue than most, I'm not sure what needs to be reformed, other than the governement doing a better job of tracking and keeping the illegal bastards out.
 
2012-09-17 10:03:37 PM
Last night, four fine young boys were murdered by men claiming to represent the race of white American Christians. I will not speak the name of that so-called organization in this house of god... But I can assure you, as treasurer of Atlantic County, and more personally, as someone who has always regarded the members of our colored community as friends and equals, that neither I, Sheriff Thompson, or any of his men will rest until these hooded cowards are brought to justice! The message is sent loud and clear...

elsilenciero.com

...That no one need fear for their safety, or the safety of their wives, children, or property in the face of the obstreperous negro! These coloreds need to learn a lesson, and we are going to teach it, with dare I say in these sacred confines, an iron fist!
 
2012-09-17 10:03:39 PM
If you picked today when Romney would flip on his tough immigration stance, collect your prize. Romney now says he will support "bi-partisan immigration reform"

So tomorrow he'll support rainbow farting unicorns?

/actually unicorns are probably sighted more often than bi-partisan immigration reform
 
2012-09-17 10:04:20 PM
Isn't saying, "I'll support bi-partisan legislation" like saying "I'll support unicorns that crap rainbow shebert"?

It doesn't matter if you "support" it or not when it's never going to exist.
 
2012-09-17 10:05:13 PM

vartian: I think I have this figured out: Romney is the guy from Memento, and the only thing he has tattooed on his arm is "Become President."


Consider that stolen.
 
2012-09-17 10:05:55 PM

Skyrmion: Isn't saying, "I'll support bi-partisan legislation" like saying "I'll support unicorns that crap rainbow shebert"?

It doesn't matter if you "support" it or not when it's never going to exist.


He really means "gets approved by Congress" and if Romney is elected president there's a good chance the Republicans will control both houses of Congress as well.
 
2012-09-17 10:06:22 PM

minoridiot: As someone who is closer to the issue than most, I'm not sure what needs to be reformed, other than the governement doing a better job of tracking and keeping the illegal bastards out.


So you're saying that under Obama enforcement of immigration law improved? So you're going to vote for him now, right?
 
2012-09-17 10:06:53 PM
LOL too little, too late f*ckstick.
 
2012-09-17 10:07:53 PM

Snatch Bandergrip: Last night, four fine young boys were murdered by men claiming to represent the race of white American Christians. I will not speak the name of that so-called organization in this house of god... But I can assure you, as treasurer of Atlantic County, and more personally, as someone who has always regarded the members of our colored community as friends and equals, that neither I, Sheriff Thompson, or any of his men will rest until these hooded cowards are brought to justice! The message is sent loud and clear...

[elsilenciero.com image 425x291]

...That no one need fear for their safety, or the safety of their wives, children, or property in the face of the obstreperous negro! These coloreds need to learn a lesson, and we are going to teach it, with dare I say in these sacred confines, an iron fist!


WTF?
 
2012-09-17 10:15:18 PM
Mitt Romney's Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Campaign
 
2012-09-17 10:17:05 PM
I have a conspiracy theory in which I think his campaign staffers are placing $10,000 bets on whether or not they can get Romney to say or do something really stupid.

I thought this with the whole "Obamaloney" thing and I think it's in this situation too.
 
2012-09-17 10:19:11 PM

NotARocketScientist: If you picked today when Romney would flip on his tough immigration stance, collect your prize. Romney now says he will support "bi-partisan immigration reform"

So tomorrow he'll support rainbow farting unicorns?

/actually unicorns are probably sighted more often than bi-partisan immigration reform


Dammit. Beat me by 41 seconds.
 
2012-09-17 10:20:43 PM
malialitman.files.wordpress.com

Desperado, why don't you come to your senses?
You been out ridin' fences for so long now
Oh, you're a hard one
I know that you got your reasons
These things that are pleasin' you
Can hurt you somehow

Desperado, oh, you ain't gettin' no younger
Your pain and your hunger, they're drivin' you home
And freedom, oh freedom well, that's just some people talkin'
Your prison is walking through this world all alone
 
2012-09-17 10:23:02 PM

Elzar: So he was for it before he was against it and then is now for it?

/ If only there was a term for this sort of behavior...


"pulling a Romney"
 
2012-09-17 10:23:09 PM
What a joke. He supports bi-partisan immigration reform but as usual he fails to specify any details as to what he thinks this reform should include. He talks of reducing the deficit by eliminating programs that are not essential without stating which programs he believes are not essential and he would reduce or eliminate some subsidies to Amtrak, CPB, NEA which plays well to his base but wouldn't really put a dent in the deficit. If the deficit is such a problem then why is he insisting on tax cuts that at best would be revenue neutral and therefore would not reduce the deficit one cent? It will be interesting to see if during the debates he will be challenged to go beyond the talking points.
 
2012-09-17 10:23:13 PM
malialitman.files.wordpress.com
♫ Yo soy un hombre sincero... ♫
 
2012-09-17 10:30:22 PM
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Say, Brick - do you smell somethin'?
 
2012-09-17 10:31:39 PM
malialitman.files.wordpress.com

'o sole mio sta nfronte a te!

/wait.. what?
 
2012-09-17 10:31:58 PM
If only he were Hispanic, then all those people would vote for him, like the blacks do for Obama.

/quotes you will hear tomorrow
 
2012-09-17 10:32:37 PM
So... "Mitt "They'll just self deport" Romney is now trying to suck up to the Hispanic vote with a few mumbled words about a bi-partisan fix on immigration and feigned concern for higher Hispanic unemployment?

Yeah, that'll work.

*rolls eyes*

/I'd ask how the teatards over at the site-that-shall-not-be-named are taking this but I don't think I really wanna know.
 
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