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(Guardian)   Jack Kerouac's ex-girlfriend claims "On the Road" wasn't written in a 3-week blast of energy in 1951, but that he spent years revising it. In related news, Jack Kerouac's ex-girlfriend claims something sensational in her own book to help sales   (guardian.co.uk) divider line 33
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2012-09-17 10:03:01 PM  
And not a fark was given.
 
2012-09-18 12:56:00 AM  
I like Willie Nelson's cover more.
 
2012-09-18 01:02:36 AM  
I've done a lot of traveling. Everything from hobo style, to first class, and I just don't think his story is all that amazing.
 
2012-09-18 01:26:25 AM  
Lady, 1976 is callin'. It wants your story.
 
2012-09-18 01:40:50 AM  
O MY GOD NOOOOOOOO!!11111
 
2012-09-18 05:38:57 AM  

TommyymmoT: I've done a lot of traveling. Everything from hobo style, to first class, and I just don't think his story is all that amazing.


I've always felt the same way about it. His writing lacks structure, and he's not a very interesting person. It's probably why On the Road is middle school/high school reading.
 
2012-09-18 06:42:47 AM  
Everything William S. Burroughs wrote > On the Road
 
2012-09-18 06:47:44 AM  
This book did not inspire me.
 
2012-09-18 07:12:11 AM  

PhiloeBedoe: I like Willie Nelson's cover more.


It wasn't a cover; it was a sequel. That's why it's called, "On the Road Again".
 
2012-09-18 07:33:26 AM  
This guy had a girlfriend???
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2012-09-18 07:36:28 AM  
Sooo much better than the edited version.

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2012-09-18 07:44:34 AM  
That's sensational?
 
2012-09-18 08:29:23 AM  

Snapper Carr: Everything William S. Burroughs wrote > On the Road


To be fair, Kerouac knew he was overrated, and said so publicly. On the Road was a competent and engaging piece of American storytelling - fun, and forgettable - and it's author hadn't intended much more than that.
All of his readable stuff (Desolation Angels, The Subterraneans, etc.) is storytelling. His attempts at "serious" prose and poetry are horrible.
 
2012-09-18 08:49:36 AM  
I read it in high school and thought it was one of the dumbest things I'd ever come across. But then I hated Catcher in the Rye too. I came across Bukowski's Post Office about a decade later and it did for me what everybody else seems to get out of Kerouac. I wish somebody had pointed that book out to me back in high school, I think my life would have taken a better direction.
 
2012-09-18 09:16:32 AM  
Is she hot?

/Check out some of the Buckly-Kerouac teevee interviews on youtube. Great stuff.
 
2012-09-18 09:40:45 AM  
I feel validated now. I read the book last summer, and couldn't figure out why everyone was creaming themselves over it. I thought it was stupid. Thank you Farkers!
 
2012-09-18 09:55:26 AM  
This is a well-known fact about Kerouac.

He'd carried the book around in his head and in drafts for years.

The 'scroll' did happen in three weeks, but it was simply the attempt to shift the text into what he was then calling 'spontaneous prose' - previously not available because of the need to change the paper in typewriters. Kerouac's incredible typing speed (he'd won prizes and been clocked at 120 wpm) made a flexibility in writing possible that even today isn't possible on word processors.

thamike: TommyymmoT: I've done a lot of traveling. Everything from hobo style, to first class, and I just don't think his story is all that amazing.

I've always felt the same way about it. His writing lacks structure, and he's not a very interesting person. It's probably why On the Road is middle school/high school reading.


I asked a friend of mine why the "New York Dolls" album sounded so ... ordinary, and almost immediately the realization came to me that ... it sounds so because its largest ideas are no longer transgressive. Inspiring thousands of others to make art on your shoulders invariably makes you look small.

You have to remember, this was during the Hayes Code, where you never saw bad things happening to good people in TV or in the movies. Additionally, this was in the period of postwar cultural redefinition and consolidation that went with the HUAC trials. Finally, The book reached out to a wave of children who were used to material comfort and new suburban uber-normalcy.

Kerouac's tales of screwing Mexican girls, hanging with Black people and enjoying black music, smoking pot, crossing national boarders and regional boarders, randomly hooking up with women (or trying and failing ), shirking a real job, and still having some kind of spiritual satisfaction is subversive to that kind of culture.
 
2012-09-18 10:01:38 AM  

Snapper Carr: Everything William S. Burroughs wrote > On the Road


this...
 
2012-09-18 10:04:51 AM  
Consequences will never be the same again.
 
2012-09-18 11:30:35 AM  
I'm too hip to read anything from Jack Kerouac.
 
2012-09-18 12:04:13 PM  
Prefer The Dharma Bums
 
2012-09-18 12:56:43 PM  
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Author edits, revises work before publication.
 
2012-09-18 03:03:46 PM  
I knew Jack Kerouac. Jack Kerouac was a friend of mine. Senator, you're no Jack Kerouac."

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2012-09-18 03:04:07 PM  

Crudbucket: That's sensational?


To the hippie cultists who adore this guy. 'Cause rewriting and revising is so conventional, maaaan! Writing should be, like, totally freeform with no editing at all, duuuuuude! (takes hit off bong)
 
2012-09-18 03:09:41 PM  

rubi_con_man: This is a well-known fact about Kerouac.

He'd carried the book around in his head and in drafts for years.

The 'scroll' did happen in three weeks, but it was simply the attempt to shift the text into what he was then calling 'spontaneous prose' - previously not available because of the need to change the paper in typewriters. Kerouac's incredible typing speed (he'd won prizes and been clocked at 120 wpm) made a flexibility in writing possible that even today isn't possible on word processors.

thamike: TommyymmoT: I've done a lot of traveling. Everything from hobo style, to first class, and I just don't think his story is all that amazing.

I've always felt the same way about it. His writing lacks structure, and he's not a very interesting person. It's probably why On the Road is middle school/high school reading.

I asked a friend of mine why the "New York Dolls" album sounded so ... ordinary, and almost immediately the realization came to me that ... it sounds so because its largest ideas are no longer transgressive. Inspiring thousands of others to make art on your shoulders invariably makes you look small.

You have to remember, this was during the Hayes Code, where you never saw bad things happening to good people in TV or in the movies. Additionally, this was in the period of postwar cultural redefinition and consolidation that went with the HUAC trials. Finally, The book reached out to a wave of children who were used to material comfort and new suburban uber-normalcy.

Kerouac's tales of screwing Mexican girls, hanging with Black people and enjoying black music, smoking pot, crossing national boarders and regional boarders, randomly hooking up with women (or trying and failing ), shirking a real job, and still having some kind of spiritual satisfaction is subversive to that kind of culture.


Thank you for this. I was beginning to think Fark was made up entirely of hipsters.

/Irony.
 
2012-09-18 04:17:46 PM  

Eshman: rubi_con_man: This is a well-known fact about Kerouac.

He'd carried the book around in his head and in drafts for years.

The 'scroll' did happen in three weeks, but it was simply the attempt to shift the text into what he was then calling 'spontaneous prose' - previously not available because of the need to change the paper in typewriters. Kerouac's incredible typing speed (he'd won prizes and been clocked at 120 wpm) made a flexibility in writing possible that even today isn't possible on word processors.

thamike: TommyymmoT: I've done a lot of traveling. Everything from hobo style, to first class, and I just don't think his story is all that amazing.

I've always felt the same way about it. His writing lacks structure, and he's not a very interesting person. It's probably why On the Road is middle school/high school reading.

I asked a friend of mine why the "New York Dolls" album sounded so ... ordinary, and almost immediately the realization came to me that ... it sounds so because its largest ideas are no longer transgressive. Inspiring thousands of others to make art on your shoulders invariably makes you look small.

You have to remember, this was during the Hayes Code, where you never saw bad things happening to good people in TV or in the movies. Additionally, this was in the period of postwar cultural redefinition and consolidation that went with the HUAC trials. Finally, The book reached out to a wave of children who were used to material comfort and new suburban uber-normalcy.

Kerouac's tales of screwing Mexican girls, hanging with Black people and enjoying black music, smoking pot, crossing national boarders and regional boarders, randomly hooking up with women (or trying and failing ), shirking a real job, and still having some kind of spiritual satisfaction is subversive to that kind of culture.

Thank you for this. I was beginning to think Fark was made up entirely of hipsters.

/Irony.


We're an entirely different kind of hipster.
 
2012-09-18 05:33:44 PM  

rubi_con_man: Kerouac's tales of screwing Mexican girls, hanging with Black people and enjoying black music, smoking pot, crossing national boarders and regional boarders, randomly hooking up with women (or trying and failing ), shirking a real job, and still having some kind of spiritual satisfaction is subversive to that kind of culture.


Oh, I understand the historical significance. I just never thought he was a very good writer. And for a subversive, even given the times, he ranks below his peers in my opinion.
 
2012-09-18 05:52:42 PM  
I find Burroughs disappointing. OnThe Road was disappointing too, but I read it as a teenager in the 90's. I chalked it up to it bei g a generational thing, though I did enjoy it somewhat. There wasnt much of a story, but I think thy was kinda the point...like reality tv of the day. After reading it, i found myself empowere to be self-indulgent and impulsive which, as it did with Kerouac, resulted I. Some great times, but ultimately regret. It also engaged me enough that I read some o his other books, which were much better (Deailation Angels, Dharma Bums, biographies, Mexico City Blues). Now, Maked Lunch was garbage, as was much of Ginsberg's stuff.
 
2012-09-18 06:30:18 PM  
"That's not writing, that's typing." - Truman Capote
 
2012-09-18 10:08:16 PM  

CigaretteSmokingMan: "That's not writing, that's typing." - Truman Capote


Came for this.
 
2012-09-18 11:22:06 PM  
A guy I went to high school with lived on the property where the cabin was located that Gary Snyder shared with Jack Kerouac.

Kerouac describes the site and his experiences there in "The Dharma Bums." At the time, and until recently, I was unaware that anyone "famous" had ever lived there. Rock and roll stars like Mike Bloomfield, Quicksilver Messenger Service, Clover and other musicians all lived around the neighborhood at the time. That is what I cared about.

The house and its land is now owned by some Open Space California thing, but I think my high school friend still lives there, under some arrangement. Now and then, strangers knock on his door (as of 2002, anyway). They want to see where Jack Kerouac used to live. Or so I have read.

I have never read "On The Road" or "The Dharma Bums." I had heard of Snyder, Kerouak and other Beat Poets, but do not recall any mention of any of them living nearby at any point in time.

An aunt of mine got me somewhat interested in the beat poets, and took me to a poetry bash at Longshoreman's Hall in San Francisco where Philip Whalen, Richard Brautigan, Gary Snyder, Robert Creeley, Allen Ginzberg, Yevgeny Yevtushenko and others read. I was still in high school, and I didn't think it was cool until I went to a junior college evening art class I had enrolled in; a hot college chick said she saw me at the poetry reading.

I melted.

/CSB
 
2012-09-19 05:26:51 AM  

NorCalLos: I find Burroughs disappointing. OnThe Road was disappointing too, but I read it as a teenager in the 90's. I chalked it up to it bei g a generational thing, though I did enjoy it somewhat. There wasnt much of a story, but I think thy was kinda the point...like reality tv of the day. After reading it, i found myself empowere to be self-indulgent and impulsive which, as it did with Kerouac, resulted I. Some great times, but ultimately regret. It also engaged me enough that I read some o his other books, which were much better (Deailation Angels, Dharma Bums, biographies, Mexico City Blues). Now, Maked Lunch was garbage, as was much of Ginsberg's stuff.


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2012-09-19 07:50:40 PM  

thamike: NorCalLos: I find Burroughs disappointing. OnThe Road was disappointing too, but I read it as a teenager in the 90's. I chalked it up to it bei g a generational thing, though I did enjoy it somewhat. There wasnt much of a story, but I think thy was kinda the point...like reality tv of the day. After reading it, i found myself empowere to be self-indulgent and impulsive which, as it did with Kerouac, resulted I. Some great times, but ultimately regret. It also engaged me enough that I read some o his other books, which were much better (Deailation Angels, Dharma Bums, biographies, Mexico City Blues). Now, Maked Lunch was garbage, as was much of Ginsberg's stuff.

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