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(Huffington Post)   The Good news is that Obama's "convention bounce" seems to have rubbed off on MA Senate Candidate Elizabeth Warren too, putting her up by six points over Scott Brown. The bad news is up until now the Dem candidate was losing IN MASSACHUSETTS   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 84
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2012-09-17 04:29:58 PM
Think that's bad, I just learned that Michelle Bachmann is still holding on in Minnesota even though her opponent seems like a reasonable and sane person.
 
2012-09-17 04:33:48 PM
uh... the dem candidate lost last time, too.
 
2012-09-17 04:43:57 PM
Brown is getting a metric assload of money to win this. This part of MA has a lot of GOP strength and big money plus huge corporate money. The fact that a (D) is even in the running is pretty interesting.
 
2012-09-17 04:50:37 PM
I hate to break it to you, subby, but elections are tilted to favor the incumbent. Shocking, I know.
 
2012-09-17 05:35:35 PM
Maybe because people are slowly starting to tune in now, too.
 
2012-09-17 06:22:01 PM
Brown in a likeable and reasonable guy... Not that I'd vote for him but he doesn't offend me like a majority of senate republicans as of late. She needs to really tie him to the rest of the senate Rs. "sure, Scott's ok. But elect him and the wack-jobs get a majority in the senate."
 
2012-09-17 06:28:11 PM

xynix: Brown is getting a metric assload of money to win this. This part of MA has a lot of GOP strength and big money plus huge corporate money. The fact that a (D) is even in the running is pretty interesting.


Which part? Isn't he running for Senate? This means the whole state votes for him, right?
 
2012-09-17 06:31:27 PM

Nadie_AZ: xynix: Brown is getting a metric assload of money to win this. This part of MA has a lot of GOP strength and big money plus huge corporate money. The fact that a (D) is even in the running is pretty interesting.

Which part? Isn't he running for Senate? This means the whole state votes for him, right?


Speaking in localization.. I mean the west metro area of Boston where the winner will most likely be decided.
 
2012-09-17 06:35:51 PM
We have a lot of old white people here. Nuff said.
 
2012-09-17 06:39:15 PM

xynix: Nadie_AZ: xynix: Brown is getting a metric assload of money to win this. This part of MA has a lot of GOP strength and big money plus huge corporate money. The fact that a (D) is even in the running is pretty interesting.

Which part? Isn't he running for Senate? This means the whole state votes for him, right?

Speaking in localization.. I mean the west metro area of Boston where the winner will most likely be decided.


Ah.
 
2012-09-17 07:39:55 PM
I have my doubts as to whether Warren can beat Scott Brown. Scott Brown does have a 57% approval rating.
 
2012-09-17 08:47:27 PM
I'm always a bit skeptical of polls favoring a challenger, though I have to admit this isn't just one poll but two fairly reasonable polls putting warren in a pretty good spot. if an incumbent is up by 5 a month or so out from the election, it's a pretty safe bet, the challenger is toast. Not guaranteed, but safe. If a challenger is up by 5, that's a fun race to watch.
 
2012-09-17 09:04:51 PM
Romney released a statement on it. On Piers Morgan now.
 
2012-09-17 09:26:12 PM
 
2012-09-17 09:29:09 PM

Nadie_AZ: xynix: Nadie_AZ: xynix: Brown is getting a metric assload of money to win this. This part of MA has a lot of GOP strength and big money plus huge corporate money. The fact that a (D) is even in the running is pretty interesting.

Which part? Isn't he running for Senate? This means the whole state votes for him, right?

Speaking in localization.. I mean the west metro area of Boston where the winner will most likely be decided.


Did you read that in your local paper? That is just silly. The population of all the towns of Metro West together don't add up to half that of Boston. It doesn't matter if Brown gets 100% of the Metro West vote if he loses big in Boston.  (180,000 in Metro West versus 618,000 in Boston.)
 
2012-09-17 09:53:29 PM
I did some canvassing for a couple of hours Saturday for Warren (best friend works/runs the office in Spilka's district) and there was a surprising amount of support that we ran into. Even managed to find a true undecided voter and convinced him to vote Warren. It was a cool experience.

Gonna be an interesting election

/csb
 
2012-09-17 10:11:56 PM

xynix: Brown is getting a metric assload of money to win this. This part of MA has a lot of GOP strength and big money plus huge corporate money. The fact that a (D) is even in the running is pretty interesting.


I was under the impression that Warren was much better funded than Brown.
 
2012-09-17 10:31:10 PM
Of all the Republicans in the Senate, I probably like Scott Brown the best. I'm a Massachusetts resident, and I'll be voting for Warren.
 
2012-09-17 10:32:25 PM
2010 Special election
Brown: 1,168,107
Coakley: 1,058,682

2008 Senate Election
Kerry: 1,959,843
Beaty: 922,727

It's all about turnout for Warren.
 
2012-09-17 10:32:54 PM
You have your good and bad news mixed up.
 
2012-09-17 10:36:23 PM

Voiceofreason01: Think that's bad, I just learned that Michelle Bachmann is still holding on in Minnesota even though her opponent seems like a reasonable and sane person.


Well, there's your problem right there.
 
2012-09-17 10:38:54 PM

violentsalvation: You have your good and bad news mixed up.


You have your ass and your elbow mixed up - but then again, you always do.
 
2012-09-17 10:40:06 PM
Scott Brown is the Massachusetts Republican that Mitt Romney once was. That was why he won Massachusetts in the first place.

But it seems like the Dems in MA got their shiat together this time around and picked a candidate who is likable.
 
2012-09-17 10:40:35 PM
Who are these people and why do I give a turd?
 
2012-09-17 10:42:23 PM
Finally, the Senate will have a proud Cherokee member.
 
2012-09-17 10:44:41 PM
 
2012-09-17 10:45:08 PM
Brown can be as nice as he wants, but he will always vote with the Republicans.
 
2012-09-17 10:46:02 PM
I like Scott Brown. I will probably

Waxing_Chewbacca: Brown in a likeable and reasonable guy... Not that I'd vote for him but he doesn't offend me like a majority of senate republicans as of late. She needs to really tie him to the rest of the senate Rs. "sure, Scott's ok. But elect him and the wack-jobs get a majority in the senate."


That's where I am. I like Scott Brown, but I just can't vote for anyone who might give the GOP more congressional power. Warren and lil' Kennedy have my votes.
 
2012-09-17 10:46:17 PM

somedude210: I did some canvassing for a couple of hours Saturday for Warren (best friend works/runs the office in Spilka's district) and there was a surprising amount of support that we ran into. Even managed to find a true undecided voter and convinced him to vote Warren. It was a cool experience.

Gonna be an interesting election

/csb


Agree that it's gonna be an interesting election and also that that is truly a cool story, Bro!

Will the Super Pac truce between the Warren campaign and the Brown campaign hold, do you think?

/Go Warren!
 
2012-09-17 10:47:46 PM

Waxing_Chewbacca: Brown in a likeable and reasonable guy... Not that I'd vote for him but he doesn't offend me like a majority of senate republicans as of late. She needs to really tie him to the rest of the senate Rs. "sure, Scott's ok. But elect him and the wack-jobs get a majority in the senate."


How many time has he actually broken rank with Senate Republicans? If, as I suspect, the answer is "rarely" then Warren needs needs to hitting that fact hard.
 
2012-09-17 10:48:03 PM
Cracks me up that people think Massachusetts is a through and through liberal state. Much like the rest of the country it's blue in the larger cities surrounded by a sea of red communities and a large independent voting block. And the older, whiter, catholic communities are turning noticeably Republican.
 
2012-09-17 10:49:04 PM

FlashHarry: uh... the dem candidate lost last time, too.


In a low turnout, special election that saw the Dem candidate placed on the ballot by the party leadership, and who literally said when asked why she wasn't shaking hands outside of Fenway "Why would I, I have constituents to do that".

There were a lot of Dem's that would not pull the lever for a hack like Martha Coakley, myself included. This year I've donated and am knocking on doors for Warren. 'Her campaign had knocked on over 400,000 doors.

She's not going to lose, and the LV models they've been using for Massachusetts in a election year scenario and Obama on the top of the ticker are absurd. They're claiming the swing is just from Dems swinging back to her side, but the Dem/Indy vote is also in her camp.

John Fraking Kerry got 650,000 more votes in 2008, than scotty did in 2010. Pray tell where even half of those people stay home, or switch their Dem vote?


Meanwhile Scott Brown and the MA GP think they can run a Mississippi style campaign here. They think calling her Professor Betty, in a state where 30% of the population has master degrees or higher, is a insult.
 
2012-09-17 10:49:41 PM

BMulligan: violentsalvation: You have your good and bad news mixed up.

You have your ass and your elbow mixed up - but then again, you always do.


No wonder my armrest smells like beer farts.
 
2012-09-17 10:54:37 PM

Cuchulane: Cracks me up that people think Massachusetts is a through and through liberal state. Much like the rest of the country it's blue in the larger cities surrounded by a sea of red communities and a large independent voting block. And the older, whiter, catholic communities are turning noticeably Republican.


There's nothing "Red" about Massachusetts. The self identified GOP is 11% and falling.

There's a very large block of Conservative Independents/unenrolled that are somewhat fiscally conservative and socially liberal. In most other areas of the country, they'd be called downright moonbatty and librul. That's not Red.
 
2012-09-17 10:55:33 PM
2010 gubernatorial results

img96.imageshack.us
 
2012-09-17 10:57:13 PM

TyrantII: John Fraking Kerry got 650,000 more votes in 2008, than scotty did in 2010. Pray tell where even half of those people stay home, or switch their Dem vote?


News had not yet broken that the effete, French-looking Massachusetts Senator who by the way served in Vietnam was evading taxes by mooring his luxury yacht in another state. People tend to get pretty sour when their so-called leaders are cheating them out of their tax dollars while advocating hiking rates even higher. Given the number of tax cheats in the O-Bomb Admin, it's not surprising they're sticking with the more Honest and Moral party.
 
2012-09-17 11:00:39 PM

Shaggy_C: TyrantII: John Fraking Kerry got 650,000 more votes in 2008, than scotty did in 2010. Pray tell where even half of those people stay home, or switch their Dem vote?

News had not yet broken that the effete, French-looking Massachusetts Senator who by the way served in Vietnam was evading taxes by mooring his luxury yacht in another state. People tend to get pretty sour when their so-called leaders are cheating them out of their tax dollars while advocating hiking rates even higher. Given the number of tax cheats in the O-Bomb Admin, it's not surprising they're sticking with the more Honest and Moral party.


God, I can't even tell anymore if it's trolling. I mean, time was something stupid and over the top meant "definite troll." Now, it just means "moderate republican."
 
2012-09-17 11:01:08 PM

Shaggy_C: TyrantII: John Fraking Kerry got 650,000 more votes in 2008, than scotty did in 2010. Pray tell where even half of those people stay home, or switch their Dem vote?

News had not yet broken that the effete, French-looking Massachusetts Senator who by the way served in Vietnam was evading taxes by mooring his luxury yacht in another state. People tend to get pretty sour when their so-called leaders are cheating them out of their tax dollars while advocating hiking rates even higher. Given the number of tax cheats in the O-Bomb Admin, it's not surprising they're sticking with the more Honest and Moral party.


-10/10 troll.

That was 2004, Kerry was reelected by a landslide (compared to Scotty) in 2008.

Further, if mooring you Boat in RI is bad, how about mooring your boat in the Cayman Islands, avoiding paying even 1 cent to the federal or state governments?

EABOD
 
2012-09-17 11:03:12 PM
Her speech at the convention war remarkable.
 
2012-09-17 11:04:22 PM
she needs a truck
 
2012-09-17 11:04:48 PM
Her speech at the convention was remarkable.
 
2012-09-17 11:05:02 PM

Cuchulane: 2010 gubernatorial results

[img96.imageshack.us image 622x392]


That's a thought-provoking graphic and thanks for providing it, but I will point out that voting for a local Republican for local office in New England is a different game than voting for the national Republican platform. New England Republicans (Brown, Snowe, Collins) are not representative of the current, uber-conservative GOP (yes, I am aware of the moron governing Maine -- no rule is perfect).

I suspect there are many people, myself included, who would be inclined to give Romney more of a look-in if the national GOP wasn't so farking terrifying.
 
2012-09-17 11:06:29 PM

TyrantII: Shaggy_C: TyrantII: John Fraking Kerry got 650,000 more votes in 2008, than scotty did in 2010. Pray tell where even half of those people stay home, or switch their Dem vote?

News had not yet broken that the effete, French-looking Massachusetts Senator who by the way served in Vietnam was evading taxes by mooring his luxury yacht in another state. People tend to get pretty sour when their so-called leaders are cheating them out of their tax dollars while advocating hiking rates even higher. Given the number of tax cheats in the O-Bomb Admin, it's not surprising they're sticking with the more Honest and Moral party.

-10/10 troll.

That was 2004, Kerry was reelected by a landslide (compared to Scotty) in 2008.

Further, if mooring you Boat in RI is bad, how about mooring your boat in the Cayman Islands, avoiding paying even 1 cent to the federal or state governments?

EABOD


toppun.com
 
2012-09-17 11:06:48 PM

somedude210: I did some canvassing for a couple of hours Saturday for Warren (best friend works/runs the office in Spilka's district) and there was a surprising amount of support that we ran into. Even managed to find a true undecided voter and convinced him to vote Warren it wasn't a stinky chocolate bar he had picked up off the ground and begun eating. It was a cool experience.

Gonna be an interesting election

/csb

 

I have to ask: were there any obvious signs of inbreeding, deformity, displaced facial features, drooling, failed competency over the English language?
 
2012-09-17 11:07:17 PM

TyrantII: That was 2004, Kerry was reelected by a landslide (compared to Scotty) in 2008.


Well, in all seriousness, the national mood of the country towards the Republican brand in 2008 was pretty negative. You could have run the exact same race that Brown won in 2008 and he would have lost miserably. If there's one thing you can credit Republicans with, it's their ability to make people forget about their long history of failure when elected to national office.
 
2012-09-17 11:11:07 PM
In any part of the country other than the Northeast or DC, Scott Brown (Olympia Snowe, Susan Collins, etc...) would be a Democrat.

That tells you how much party lines actually matter, because if he were a Democrat, he wouldn't have been helping the Republican obstruction machine.
 
2012-09-17 11:15:26 PM
checks for PPP poll.

Yup.

Okay, nothing to see here.
 
2012-09-17 11:17:01 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: checks for PPP poll.

Yup.

Okay, nothing to see here.


Coincidentally

Just In: Suffolk/7 News #masen poll: Warren 48%, Brown 44%: suffolk.edu/offices/53560....

- Ben Swasey (@benswasey) September 17, 2012
 
2012-09-17 11:23:06 PM

FlashHarry: uh... the dem candidate lost last time, too.


Wasn't she also a dick though? I mean, Scott Brown won, but isn't it more that Whasserface lost?
 
2012-09-17 11:29:22 PM
tenpoundsofcheese

PPP had Warren up 2. Suffolk up 4, Western New England up 6. You sure you want to discount PPP?

/Voting Warren and encouraging everyone else to do likewise
//Scott Brown takes wall street money, killed the Disclose Act, and watered down Dodd-Frank. Warren has a national reputation for being tough on the banks who got us into this mess.
 
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