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2012-09-17 08:56:00 PM  
A guy who only pays a 13% tax rate is denigrating others for how little they pay in taxes. Cute.
 
2012-09-17 08:56:11 PM  

GhostFish: "It's shocking that a candidate for President of the United States would go behind closed doors and declare to a group of wealthy donors that half the American people view themselves as 'victims,' entitled to handouts, and are unwilling to take 'personal responsibility' for their lives. It's hard to serve as president for all Americans when you've disdainfully written off half the nation," read a statement from Obama's campaign manager Jim Messina.

Yeah, "shocking" is putting it lightly.


Well, in all fairness, he couldn't say "retarded and ignorant".....though that's what he very well may have been thinking.
 
2012-09-17 08:57:08 PM  
If Mitt wants to biatch about 47% not paying income taxes, he better show his.
 
2012-09-17 08:57:22 PM  

Carth: At this point in the campaign is anyone really surprised he is an asshole?


Surprised he's an asshole? Not at all.

Surprised at the degree to which he's openly an asshole? Yes. Most Republican politicians who feel the way Romney does have the good sense to not just farking come out and say what they are thinking. So yes, I am surprised by the fact he says these things, but not surprised by the fact he believes them.
 
2012-09-17 08:58:19 PM  

star_topology: "95% of life is set up for you if you are born in this country."

Some of us with more than 95% than others.

Generally speaking though, he's right (depending on his context of course)


Like if you are successful, you didn't create that all by yourself independtly. Being born in the US helps you build things in a way. Not your business per se but may be the infrastructure and societal advantages that allow you to be successful. You didn't build that. Your country did. Did I get the syntax right. Please don't take me out of context.
 
2012-09-17 08:58:30 PM  

Shrugging Atlas: Jesus it's the top story on BBC's website.



Only 3% of the Brits want to see Mittens elected here, so the BBC is kind of preaching to the choir.
 
2012-09-17 08:58:32 PM  
"My dad, as you probably, know was the governor of Michigan and was the head of a car company. But he was born in Mexico ... and, uh, had he been born of, uh, Mexican parents, I'd have a better shot at winning this," Romney said. "But he was unfortunately born to Americans living in Mexico. ... I mean I say that jokingly, but it would be helpful to be Latino."

Those Mexicans got it so easy...
 
2012-09-17 08:58:35 PM  
I have worked all my life sometimes taking two jobs just to make ends meet and still struggle to get by week to week.

fark YOU, YOU ARROGANT fark.


Hypnozombie

/it will feel so good to watch this elitist turn fail so hard in November
 
2012-09-17 08:58:56 PM  
I'm dependent on the government. hell, i ain't swimming the damn missouri river just to get to work. would you?

gosh, no, it took me those fancy socialist paved roads and a bridge to get over here.
 
2012-09-17 08:59:04 PM  

phritz: Romney, in a different video from the series:
My heritage, my dad as you probably know was the governor of Michigan and was the head of a car company. But he was born in Mexico, and, uh, had he been born of, uh, Mexican parents, I'd have a better shot at winning this. [Rich donors cracking up]

But he was unfortunately born to Americans living in Mexico. He lieved there for a number of years. And, uh, uh, I say that jokingly, but it would be helpful to be, uh ... Latino.
--Mitt Romney


He's half right. It would be helpful for a Republican in a general election to be latino. It would probably help him/her win some Latino votes. Of course, it would be impossible for a Latino Republican to win the primary in the first place.
 
2012-09-17 08:59:06 PM  

Shrugging Atlas: Dusk-You-n-Me: How Jimmy Carter's Grandson Helped Leak the Secret Romney Fund-raiser Video

That's farking beautiful.


Something poetic about that.
 
2012-09-17 08:59:25 PM  
Speaking of Americans who don't pay taxes, Mitt, can we see your returns from 2009?
 
2012-09-17 08:59:47 PM  

Shrugging Atlas: Jesus it's the top story on BBC's website.


I can't remember. Was Obama's "Clinging to guns and religion" comment the top story on the BBC website when it broke? Because NPR and other media outlets are basically saying this is Romney's version of that.
 
2012-09-17 09:00:05 PM  
fark you. Got mine.
 
2012-09-17 09:00:10 PM  

"95% of life is set up for you if you are born in this country."
We built this.

 
2012-09-17 09:00:39 PM  

Cubicle Jockey: Paul Baumer: Fun fact about where those moochers all live -

[taxfoundation.org image 800x590]


BWAHAHAHAHA!

I am curious as to why Alaska has such a remarkably lower percentage (21%) than even the second least-moochiest state, Massachusetts (27%).


They get that big socialist oil revenue sharing from the state. And I have no idea why the hell you would live up there without a decent job. Good luck trying to be homeless there.
 
2012-09-17 09:00:50 PM  
Romney/Ryan 2012: Less human than human

//Rachael didn't know, at first...
 
2012-09-17 09:01:17 PM  

themeaningoflifeisnot: mrshowrules: mrshowrules: themeaningoflifeisnot: mrshowrules: Canada had debt problems in the 90s. We even had our credit downgraded to AAA to AA. We since recovered our credit rating and we have a balance budget predicted for 2016 and a 7.1% unemployment rate. You know how we did it? I'll give you a hint, it wasn't by cutting spending or social benefits.

I'm not sure the comparison holds. Isn't Canada's GDP less than the state of California's? Hardly the same scale of economy when compared to the United States.

We raised taxes and regulated the banks. Canada is 1/10th the size of the US but our unemployment didn't increase because we raised taxes. If you don't like the scale, look at the US's own history. There was a 65 year study published yesterday I believe that shows the raising or lowering taxes on the upper brackets has no impact on GDP or unemployment. Just consider Canada as an example of how well the US could be doing today if it wasn't for electing Dubya.

No, I don't disagree with you. I just think that successfully implementing economic reforms in the US is orders of magnitude more difficult than in Canada, even if we had a Congress without its collective head up its collective ass.


I don't think it matter how small or big you are. If you have the false assumption that tax cuts are good for the economy, you are doomed to fail regardless.
 
2012-09-17 09:01:27 PM  

fusillade762: Bloody William: Nabb1: "A government that has the power to give you something has the power to take it away." - Thomas Jefferson. If you can provide yourself with the necessities in life, you have no right to demand others do so for you.

"The poor who have neither property, friends, nor strength to
labor, are boarded in the houses of good farmers, to whom a
stipulated sum is annually paid. To those who are able to help
themselves a little, or have friends from whom they derive some
succor, inadequate however to their full maintenance,
supplementary aids are given which enable them to live
comfortably in their own houses, or in the houses of their
friends."

-Thomas Jefferson. Notes on Virginia, 1782.

Need a picture of Jefferson saying "OH, SNAP!".


Actually, you are quoting from the wrong Jefferson. He was quoting from Republican Jefferson:

i1166.photobucket.com
 
2012-09-17 09:02:22 PM  
I truly want to believe this is the moment that doomed his campaign. Of course, he's had so many of those the last few months, it's been hard to keep track.
 
2012-09-17 09:02:42 PM  

phritz: Romney buys a factory:
When I was back in my private equity days, we went to China to buy a factory there. It employed about 20,000 people. And they were almost all young women between the ages of about 18 and 22 or 23. They were saving for potentially becoming married.

And they work in these huge factories, they made various uh, small appliances. And uh, as we were walking through this facility, seeing them work, the number of hours they worked per day, the pitance they earned, living in dormitories with uh, with little bathrooms at the end of maybe 10, 10 room, rooms. And the rooms they have 12 girls per room.
--Mitt Romney


gigg.ity
 
2012-09-17 09:03:26 PM  

shower_in_my_socks: Shrugging Atlas: Jesus it's the top story on BBC's website.


Only 3% of the Brits want to see Mittens elected here, so the BBC is kind of preaching to the choir.


Oh I'm sure. Just remarking at the fact this story is taking off like crazy. Granted I was tied up in meetings all day so I'm just now getting caught up on all of this so it's still new to me at any rate.
 
2012-09-17 09:03:31 PM  

Coco LaFemme: I truly want to believe this is the moment that doomed his campaign. Of course, he's had so many of those the last few months, it's been hard to keep track.


The link says there are more clips from the speech to come. Bwa ha ha ha ha......
 
2012-09-17 09:04:11 PM  
LOL. From a tweet roundup on Andrew Sullivan's blog:


- Stand by for Mitt Romney's whitey tape.

- Romney 2012: You are not entitled to food.

- But what does Mitt Romney think of the people who don't pay ordinary income rates because of carried interest?

- That awkward moment when the guy wh ois running to give himself millions in tax breaks says you want free stuff.
 
2012-09-17 09:07:13 PM  

Mrtraveler01: Shrugging Atlas: Jesus it's the top story on BBC's website.

I can't remember. Was Obama's "Clinging to guns and religion" comment the top story on the BBC website when it broke? Because NPR and other media outlets are basically saying this is Romney's version of that.


I can't speak for BBC specifically, but I remember that story being all over the place back then...it's all people were talking about for days.

I'm not sure I see how the two remarks are the same thing though. To me you've got the Mexican comment which really has no parallel with Obama's guns/religion comment. Then you've got the fact he's claiming 47% of Obama supporters think of themselves as victims and entitled to government handouts. I'm not sure how I see that really comparing to the 'clinging to their guns and religion' thing. Maybe it's there and I'm missing it though.
 
2012-09-17 09:07:38 PM  

Mrtraveler01: Was Obama's "Clinging to guns and religion" comment the top story on the BBC website when it broke?



Mitt Romney is unbelievably unpopular in the UK. It was reported today that David Cameron said that Mitt Romney "had that unique distinction of uniting all of England against him with his various remarks." A poll released today also shows that 47% of Brits would look at the US less favorably if Mitt was elected President, vs. only 3% who would be more favorable.

Keeping in mind that they're our closest allies.
 
2012-09-17 09:07:38 PM  

eddiesocket: Coco LaFemme: I truly want to believe this is the moment that doomed his campaign. Of course, he's had so many of those the last few months, it's been hard to keep track.

The link says there are more clips from the speech to come. Bwa ha ha ha ha......


I saw that. Apparently they are worse than this. I'm curious to know if it is just hype or not.
 
2012-09-17 09:07:57 PM  

Bloody William: Nabb1: "A government that has the power to give you something has the power to take it away." - Thomas Jefferson. If you can provide yourself with the necessities in life, you have no right to demand others do so for you.

"The poor who have neither property, friends, nor strength to
labor, are boarded in the houses of good farmers, to whom a
stipulated sum is annually paid. To those who are able to help
themselves a little, or have friends from whom they derive some
succor, inadequate however to their full maintenance,
supplementary aids are given which enable them to live
comfortably in their own houses, or in the houses of their
friends."

-Thomas Jefferson. Notes on Virginia, 1782.


you dropped something

"Vagabonds without visible property or vocation, are placed in work houses, where they are well clothed, fed, lodged, and made to labor."

the end of your quote
 
2012-09-17 09:08:31 PM  

impaler: "95% of life is set up for you if you are born in this country."
We built this.


So free college tuiton for everyone is what I'm hearing? Bad ass!
 
2012-09-17 09:08:35 PM  
Nothing is going to change.

Politicians on both sides of the aisle keep declaring "War" on the effects, but nobody does a damn thing about the causes. War on Poverty, War on Drugs, War on Terrorism- these are all wars on the side- effects of the real problem: the predatory program of exploitation by the rich. Exploitation of natural resources, (with the accompanying meddling in the governments in the Middle East,) THAT'S where your problem in terrorism really comes from. Exploitation of human resources, with the attendant lack of any hopes for the future-THERE'S the cause of your poverty and drug use. But any real measures to help the little guy get ahead- that's "Class Warfare and "socialism". The rich are on top of the heap, and they plan to stay there. The "American Dream" is a threat to them, for it represents their supplantment by somebody else at the top of the pecking order.
 
2012-09-17 09:08:42 PM  

Shrugging Atlas: I'm not sure I see how the two remarks are the same thing though. To me you've got the Mexican comment which really has no parallel with Obama's guns/religion comment. Then you've got the fact he's claiming 47% of Obama supporters think of themselves as victims and entitled to government handouts. I'm not sure how I see that really comparing to the 'clinging to their guns and religion' thing. Maybe it's there and I'm missing it though.


GOP response to Obama's "cling to guns and religion" statement: "You bet your arse we do!"
 
2012-09-17 09:09:21 PM  

Mrtraveler01: Shrugging Atlas: Jesus it's the top story on BBC's website.

I can't remember. Was Obama's "Clinging to guns and religion" comment the top story on the BBC website when it broke? Because NPR and other media outlets are basically saying this is Romney's version of that.


Ryan said the same thing already. BSABVR is apparently a campaign slogan now. Statements like Romney's are going to hurt him far more than the "gun and religion" comment ever did Obama - between Romneys refusal to give any policy specificity, and to even show what he pays in taxes, these quotes fit around the neck of the public Mitt persona to a "T"
 
2012-09-17 09:09:22 PM  
Sounds an awful lot like Mitt is using the dangerous language of class warfare to breed contempt of one side of Americans against the other. So who's he declaring war against?

www.taxpolicycenter.org

Mostly the elderly, and working families who get exempt from paying income taxes because they qualify for enough deductions through things like housing, marriage and child deductions that their liability is net zero.
 
2012-09-17 09:09:47 PM  
This is why Mittens can't win. Like with Palin, it's one gaffe after another. There's never a long enough lull for his campaign to even make an ATTEMPT at taking over the narrative. They're on permanent damage-control because of this extremist, lunatic bullshiat.
 
2012-09-17 09:10:00 PM  

12349876: Cubicle Jockey: Paul Baumer: Fun fact about where those moochers all live -

[taxfoundation.org image 800x590]


BWAHAHAHAHA!

I am curious as to why Alaska has such a remarkably lower percentage (21%) than even the second least-moochiest state, Massachusetts (27%).

They get that big socialist oil revenue sharing from the state. And I have no idea why the hell you would live up there without a decent job. Good luck trying to be homeless there.


upload.wikimedia.org 
Strongly Agrees

/Is this where I request a window or aisle seat?
 
2012-09-17 09:10:08 PM  

skullkrusher: Bloody William: Nabb1: "A government that has the power to give you something has the power to take it away." - Thomas Jefferson. If you can provide yourself with the necessities in life, you have no right to demand others do so for you.

"The poor who have neither property, friends, nor strength to
labor, are boarded in the houses of good farmers, to whom a
stipulated sum is annually paid. To those who are able to help
themselves a little, or have friends from whom they derive some
succor, inadequate however to their full maintenance,
supplementary aids are given which enable them to live
comfortably in their own houses, or in the houses of their
friends."

-Thomas Jefferson. Notes on Virginia, 1782.

you dropped something

"Vagabonds without visible property or vocation, are placed in work houses, where they are well clothed, fed, lodged, and made to labor."

the end of your quote


So they are provided clothing, food, housing, AND a job? Awesome! Where do we sign up?
 
2012-09-17 09:10:08 PM  

Jerkwater: Smelly McUgly: Also, yes I think human beings are entitled to housing and food. No, the rare person that is genuinely lazy as opposed to the many who toil in poverty or near poverty doesn't change that. Yes, the lazy person deserves food too, being that Jesus taught me to care for my fellow man without any stipulation - and really any decent set of ethics, whether based on religious background or not, would say the same thing.

Let's also not fall into the trap of assuming that all genuinely lazy people are receiving entitlements. I've carved out a nice career over 15 years of spending 60% of my working hours on Fark.com and other online distractions, and 20% in the bathroom. My seniority affords me the cube on the back corner of my office and I can see everyone's monitor, so I know I'm not alone.


I want you in my office when You come in tomorrow, bring a pen.
 
2012-09-17 09:10:11 PM  
It's now on the front page on CNN, CBS and ABC news websites.
 
2012-09-17 09:10:51 PM  
If any Democratic candidate ran a campaign for President that was a third as bad as Romney's campaign, they wouldn't bother having an election in November as that Democratic candidate would just concede that he had already lost. Yet Romney is still in the running.
 
2012-09-17 09:11:14 PM  
Another day, another pile of dog crap to step in.

Great campaign you got there.
 
2012-09-17 09:12:13 PM  
Mitt speaks to the faithful. "Just wait, when you elect me President, I'm going to get you so much rope. You know where they live. It will be great."
 
2012-09-17 09:12:37 PM  

GhostFish: RexTalionis: Look, I don't like defending Romney, but I don't really see the big deal about this. He's a candidate running an election with an extremely polarised populace. Of course he's going to denigrate the voters of the other side.

You really think that the Obama campaign doesn't think that a good portion of Romney's base is a bunch of racist whackjobs, either?

This would be like Obama coming out and saying that everyone voting against him is a racist whackjob.


Actually that exact scenario happened in 2008. In an almost perfect mirror image of this situation, Obama was talking to a room full of wealthy liberals when he brought up poverty stricken right wing Pennsylvanians who have become "bitter" from years of downsizing and outsourcing and were now clinging to their "guns and Bibles" and using immigrants as scapegoats to explain their problems.

Which Republicans went on to say meant Obama had just said all the people who won't vote for him are racist whackjobs.

Of course Obama's point was that he wanted to help these people, not that he could then just dismiss them all outright and shouldn't be bothered to worry about getting their votes. Which is exactly what Romney said:

"[M]y job is not to worry about those people. I'll never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives."

That is the line that should be the most damning of all of this. It's not very different from the statement he made earlier this year when he said "I'm not concerned about they very poor". These aren't gaffes, they're indications of his core beliefs.

Obama tried to understand and empathize with the poor on the right who would never vote for him, Romney tried to demonize and dismiss the poor on the left who would never vote for him. I think that speaks volumes about both men.
 
2012-09-17 09:12:43 PM  
Fundraiser was at this guy's Boca Raton home in May.
 
2012-09-17 09:13:29 PM  

Kome: skullkrusher: Bloody William: Nabb1: "A government that has the power to give you something has the power to take it away." - Thomas Jefferson. If you can provide yourself with the necessities in life, you have no right to demand others do so for you.

"The poor who have neither property, friends, nor strength to
labor, are boarded in the houses of good farmers, to whom a
stipulated sum is annually paid. To those who are able to help
themselves a little, or have friends from whom they derive some
succor, inadequate however to their full maintenance,
supplementary aids are given which enable them to live
comfortably in their own houses, or in the houses of their
friends."

-Thomas Jefferson. Notes on Virginia, 1782.

you dropped something

"Vagabonds without visible property or vocation, are placed in work houses, where they are well clothed, fed, lodged, and made to labor."

the end of your quote

So they are provided clothing, food, housing, AND a job? Awesome! Where do we sign up?


your nearest workhouse. You're supposed to hate those
 
2012-09-17 09:14:07 PM  

Nadie_AZ: eddiesocket: Coco LaFemme: I truly want to believe this is the moment that doomed his campaign. Of course, he's had so many of those the last few months, it's been hard to keep track.

The link says there are more clips from the speech to come. Bwa ha ha ha ha......

I saw that. Apparently they are worse than this. I'm curious to know if it is just hype or not.


Yeah, I guess it could go either way. They either released the "money shot" today and are trying to get more hits in the coming days, or this is just the tease. I hope it's the latter.
 
2012-09-17 09:14:25 PM  

impaler: Shrugging Atlas: I'm not sure I see how the two remarks are the same thing though. To me you've got the Mexican comment which really has no parallel with Obama's guns/religion comment. Then you've got the fact he's claiming 47% of Obama supporters think of themselves as victims and entitled to government handouts. I'm not sure how I see that really comparing to the 'clinging to their guns and religion' thing. Maybe it's there and I'm missing it though.

GOP response to Obama's "cling to guns and religion" statement: "You bet your arse we do!"


He wasn't claiming 47% of Obama voters think of themselves as victims. He was saying 96% of Obama voters think of themselves as victims. If Obama said that 96% of Republicans were racists or 96% clung to guns and religion, or 96% wanted to see people starve, die from treatable health disease or died outside in the, well, you'd have yourself a shiatstorm. Clearly, the above only applies to 90% of Republicans.

jk
 
2012-09-17 09:14:51 PM  

skullkrusher: Kome: skullkrusher: Bloody William: Nabb1: "A government that has the power to give you something has the power to take it away." - Thomas Jefferson. If you can provide yourself with the necessities in life, you have no right to demand others do so for you.

"The poor who have neither property, friends, nor strength to
labor, are boarded in the houses of good farmers, to whom a
stipulated sum is annually paid. To those who are able to help
themselves a little, or have friends from whom they derive some
succor, inadequate however to their full maintenance,
supplementary aids are given which enable them to live
comfortably in their own houses, or in the houses of their
friends."

-Thomas Jefferson. Notes on Virginia, 1782.

you dropped something

"Vagabonds without visible property or vocation, are placed in work houses, where they are well clothed, fed, lodged, and made to labor."

the end of your quote

So they are provided clothing, food, housing, AND a job? Awesome! Where do we sign up?

your nearest workhouse. You're supposed to hate those


Why am I supposed to hate those?
 
2012-09-17 09:15:24 PM  
This is so bad, the trolls have apparently given up.

Or they won't receive their talking points until tomorrow morning.
 
2012-09-17 09:15:29 PM  

Paul Baumer: Mrtraveler01: Shrugging Atlas: Jesus it's the top story on BBC's website.

I can't remember. Was Obama's "Clinging to guns and religion" comment the top story on the BBC website when it broke? Because NPR and other media outlets are basically saying this is Romney's version of that.

Ryan said the same thing already. BSABVR is apparently a campaign slogan now. Statements like Romney's are going to hurt him far more than the "gun and religion" comment ever did Obama - between Romneys refusal to give any policy specificity, and to even show what he pays in taxes, these quotes fit around the neck of the public Mitt persona to a "T"


I caught the right-wing talkers while I was fighting traffic on the way home tonight. Basically they're trying to dismiss this because this incident happened in the past and that we should be focusing on the Middle East and why we need to swing our dick harder at it (I'm paraphrasing of course).

But they really think that people side with the GOP on this issue. Talk about delusional.
 
2012-09-17 09:15:38 PM  

RexTalionis: Look, I don't like defending Romney, but I don't really see the big deal about this. He's a candidate running an election with an extremely polarised populace. Of course he's going to denigrate the voters of the other side.

You really think that the Obama campaign doesn't think that a good portion of Romney's base is a bunch of racist whackjobs, either?


Yeah its such a great strategy to insult half the voting population.

Obama has been saying over and over how he will work with Republicans.
Romney just pretty much said fark them, fark them all..

I can see how the Romney voters have been going into overdrive trying to defend this. This not only could sink him but could sink the GOP in the house and senate elections. Nice try though!
 
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