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2012-09-17 04:12:09 PM
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Republicans are often assholes
 
2012-09-17 04:15:13 PM
they are "dependent on government" and "believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing,"

Is this an inaccurate statement?
 
2012-09-17 04:16:12 PM
"dependent on government" and "believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing,"

Yeah, those soldiers and veterans need to shut the f*ck up.
 
2012-09-17 04:17:05 PM

Aarontology: "dependent on government" and "believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing,"

Yeah, those soldiers and veterans need to shut the f*ck up.


And old people and children.
 
2012-09-17 04:18:39 PM

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Aarontology: "dependent on government" and "believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing,"

Yeah, those soldiers and veterans need to shut the f*ck up.

And old people and children.


It's the Republican Christian thing to do, after all.
 
2012-09-17 04:19:37 PM
yeah, fark those people who want food and shelter!
 
2012-09-17 04:21:50 PM

Dancin_In_Anson: they are "dependent on government" and "believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing,"

Is this an inaccurate statement?


Yes it is. He said 47%. 47% might want access to affordable health care insurance and employment. The number of people as a percentage that want a free ride, would in theory be at least less than the unemployment rate or do you assume all people who can't find work are lazy?
 
2012-09-17 04:22:53 PM

Dancin_In_Anson: they are "dependent on government" and "believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing,"

Is this an inaccurate statement?



Yes.
 
2012-09-17 04:22:57 PM

mrshowrules: Dancin_In_Anson: they are "dependent on government" and "believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing,"

Is this an inaccurate statement?

Yes it is. He said 47%. 47% might want access to affordable health care insurance and employment. The number of people as a percentage that want a free ride, would in theory be at least less than the unemployment rate or do you assume all people who can't find work are lazy?


You're talking to a guy who honestly believes the current US government is comparable to the nazis.
 
2012-09-17 04:23:07 PM

ManateeGag: yeah, fark those people who want food and shelter!


I want food and shelter.
 
2012-09-17 04:23:52 PM

Aarontology: You're talking to a guy who honestly believes the current US government is comparable to the nazis.


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2012-09-17 04:24:07 PM

Aarontology: "dependent on government" and "believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing,"

Yeah, those soldiers and veterans need to shut the f*ck up.


I for one don't consider compensation for services rendered the same thing as public entitlements.
 
2012-09-17 04:24:23 PM
Go f*ck yourself, Mitt

/seriously, FOAD
 
2012-09-17 04:24:33 PM

Aarontology: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Aarontology: "dependent on government" and "believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing,"

Yeah, those soldiers and veterans need to shut the f*ck up.

And old people and children.

It's the Republican Christian thing to do, after all.


And lo Jesus took one loaf of bread and made everyone bootstraps.
 
2012-09-17 04:26:28 PM

Blues_X: Yes.


But...


Aarontology: Yeah, those soldiers and veterans need to shut the f*ck up


Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: And old people and children


ManateeGag: yeah, fark those people who want food and shelter!


Those three statements seem to suggest that soldiers, old people, children and people who want food and shelter are "dependent on government" and "believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing,"

Which is it?
 
2012-09-17 04:26:34 PM

Dancin_In_Anson: they are "dependent on government" and "believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing,"

Is this an inaccurate statement?


It assumes that those three things are readily available, with no chance of exception or failure, to anyone who wants it. There's a reason we have safety nets, and it's not just because it's the human, civilized thing to have.
 
2012-09-17 04:27:53 PM
Fundamental ideological differences: Liberals fear something bad will happen to someone who doesn't deserve it. Conservatives fear something good will happen to someone who doesn't deserve it.
 
2012-09-17 04:29:52 PM

Nabb1: I for one don't consider compensation for services rendered the same thing as public entitlements.


I for one, consider both to be forms of welfare.
 
2012-09-17 04:30:04 PM

Bloody William: It assumes that those three things are readily available


They are.
 
2012-09-17 04:31:16 PM

Dancin_In_Anson: Bloody William: It assumes that those three things are readily available

They are.


Bloody William: Dancin_In_Anson: they are "dependent on government" and "believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing,"

Is this an inaccurate statement?

It assumes that those three things are readily available, with no chance of exception or failure, to anyone who wants it. There's a reason we have safety nets, and it's not just because it's the human, civilized thing to have.


YOU COULDN'T EVEN QUOTE THE FULL SENTENCE AND THE CONTEXT THEREIN.
 
2012-09-17 04:31:47 PM

Bloody William: YOU COULDN'T EVEN QUOTE THE FULL SENTENCE AND THE CONTEXT THEREIN.


he's a teabagger, what do you expect?
 
2012-09-17 04:33:12 PM

Dancin_In_Anson: they are "dependent on government" and "believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing,"

Is this an inaccurate statement?


No. I believe peopled are entitled to those things. It is farking ludicrous to even entertain the thought that 47% of the country agrees with me.

Bloody William

Liberals fear something bad will happen to someone who doesn't deserve it care. Conservatives fear something good will happen to someone who doesn't deserve it.
 
2012-09-17 04:34:23 PM

vartian: Dancin_In_Anson: they are "dependent on government" and "believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing,"

Is this an inaccurate statement?

No. I believe peopled are entitled to those things. It is farking ludicrous to even entertain the thought that 47% of the country agrees with me.


It's also ludicrous to entertain the thought that the two aforementioned statements overlap completely as a single statement about a single group.
 
2012-09-17 04:34:26 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Go f*ck yourself, Mitt

 
2012-09-17 04:36:18 PM

Bloody William: Dancin_In_Anson: they are "dependent on government" and "believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing,"

Is this an inaccurate statement?

It assumes that those three things are readily available, with no chance of exception or failure, to anyone who wants it. There's a reason we have safety nets, and it's not just because it's the human, civilized thing to have.


Further, he phrased it in such a way that he asserted people want the government to give them those things. I don't know very many people who want life handed to them, because it's bare-bones no-frills kind of life (comparitively speaking vs. other American families, before we get into a pissing contest about mud huts in Africa).

I think those people are just glad knowing the government is available to help them get those things if all other avenues have failed. The alternative is a governing strategy and party that literally, and completely, ignores the plight of people who have fallen on hard times and actively ushers them along the path to ruin. The party that wants to get rid of welfare, of affordable health care, of women's rights to make decisions for their own bodies, of tax credits that benefit the poor, of progressive taxation, of food stamp eligibility, I mean the list just keeps on going.

They are beyond "got mine, f**k you". They seem to believe that failure should just about be punished, and the dregs of society should be encouraged to die, quickly and quietly and without making all that fuss, so the well-to-do can continue their lives of blissful ignorance without having to cast eyes upon the filth.
 
2012-09-17 04:36:50 PM

mrshowrules: 47% might want access to affordable health care insurance and employment. The number of people as a percentage that want a free ride, would in theory be at least less than the unemployment rate or do you assume all people who can't find work are lazy?


47% is equal to the percentage of people that didn't pay federal INCOME taxes in 2009 (but still paid federal FICA and excise taxes).

Note: When looking at "taxes as percentage of income", remember Romney's income tax is 13%
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2012-09-17 04:37:34 PM

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Aarontology: "dependent on government" and "believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing,"

Yeah, those soldiers and veterans need to shut the f*ck up.

And old people and children.


And half the country.
 
2012-09-17 04:38:18 PM

Bloody William:

It's also ludicrous to entertain the thought that the two aforementioned statements overlap completely as a single statement about a single group.


Exactly. I know plenty of people who support the idea of a universal health care system, but are all "fark those people in section 8 housing." And every one of them already has heath care.

But no, Republicans...47% of the country is a sucking vortex of entitlement that produces nothing. Your vote this election is the only thing keeping a FEMA trailer out of your backyard.
 
2012-09-17 04:38:22 PM
"There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what," Romney says in one clip. "All right -- there are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent on government, who believe that, that they are victims, who believe that government has the responsibility to care for them. Who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing."

I am part of the 47% and I am not dependent on the government for anything besides roads, public schools, fire department, police etc.

I don't need housing, food or health care provided from the government.

Does Romney truly believe that EVERYONE who votes for Obama is on the dole?
 
2012-09-17 04:38:48 PM

vartian: Dancin_In_Anson: they are "dependent on government" and "believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing,"

Is this an inaccurate statement?

No. I believe peopled are entitled to those things. It is farking ludicrous to even entertain the thought that 47% of the country agrees with me.


No, they aren't. You're not entitled to anything else from anyone else. Providing for those who cannot provide for themselves is charity, and there's nothing wrong with helping people. But no one has a right to demand the government provide them anything. "A government that has the power to give you something has the power to take it away." - Thomas Jefferson. If you can provide yourself with the necessities in life, you have no right to demand others do so for you.
 
2012-09-17 04:39:39 PM
99.999% of "humans" believe they are entitled to food and shelter.
 
2012-09-17 04:39:55 PM

Nabb1: No, they aren't. You're not entitled to anything else from anyone else. Providing for those who cannot provide for themselves is charity, and there's nothing wrong with helping people. But no one has a right to demand the government provide them anything. "A government that has the power to give you something has the power to take it away." - Thomas Jefferson. If you can provide yourself with the necessities in life, you have no right to demand others do so for you.


So does that mean I can have the money back that was given to Louisiana after the hurricanes and the oil spill?
 
2012-09-17 04:40:42 PM

vartian: I believe peopled are entitled to those things.


At least you agree with the statement and are happy to admit it. Everyone else does but seems to be bothered by that fact.
 
2012-09-17 04:41:17 PM

Aarontology: Nabb1: No, they aren't. You're not entitled to anything else from anyone else. Providing for those who cannot provide for themselves is charity, and there's nothing wrong with helping people. But no one has a right to demand the government provide them anything. "A government that has the power to give you something has the power to take it away." - Thomas Jefferson. If you can provide yourself with the necessities in life, you have no right to demand others do so for you.

So does that mean I can have the money back that was given to Louisiana after the hurricanes and the oil spill?


What's your own personal stake in that? Like six bucks? Do you accepts the PayPal?
 
2012-09-17 04:41:24 PM
5% of Farkers are Social Darwinists.
 
2012-09-17 04:41:34 PM

Nabb1: "A government that has the power to give you something has the power to take it away." - Thomas Jefferson. If you can provide yourself with the necessities in life, you have no right to demand others do so for you.


"The poor who have neither property, friends, nor strength to
labor, are boarded in the houses of good farmers, to whom a
stipulated sum is annually paid. To those who are able to help
themselves a little, or have friends from whom they derive some
succor, inadequate however to their full maintenance,
supplementary aids are given which enable them to live
comfortably in their own houses, or in the houses of their
friends."

-Thomas Jefferson. Notes on Virginia, 1782.
 
2012-09-17 04:41:46 PM

Nabb1:

No, they aren't. You're not entitled to anything else from anyone else. Providing for those who cannot provide for themselves is charity, and there's nothing wrong with helping people. But no one has a right to demand the government provide them anything. "A government that has the power to give you something has the power to take it away." - Thomas Jefferson. If you can provide yourself with the necessities in life, you have no right to demand others do so for you.


Look, make the "we're all in this alone" argument with me until you pass out, it will never farking sell with me. We are beholden to each other as a country and should provide a basic level of existence and support to our fellow citizens. Period.

You want me to value money over humanity, a proposition that would be humorous if it wasn't so damn sad.
 
2012-09-17 04:42:07 PM

Nabb1: Providing for those who cannot provide for themselves is charity, and there's nothing wrong with helping people


Oh man...you say stuff like that and you fark up their whole way of thinking.
 
2012-09-17 04:42:31 PM

Dancin_In_Anson: vartian: I believe peopled are entitled to those things.

At least you agree with the statement and are happy to admit it. Everyone else does but seems to be bothered by that fact.


I own my fuzzy liberalism, good sir :)
 
2012-09-17 04:43:38 PM

vartian: Look, make the "we're all in this alone" argument with me until you pass out, it will never farking sell with me


How about you take care of yourself FIRST, then look to help others?
 
2012-09-17 04:44:14 PM

vartian: I own my fuzzy liberalism, good sir :)


:)
 
2012-09-17 04:44:30 PM

vartian: Dancin_In_Anson: vartian: I believe peopled are entitled to those things.

At least you agree with the statement and are happy to admit it. Everyone else does but seems to be bothered by that fact.

I own my fuzzy liberalism, good sir :)


I freely admit it, too. Though I think DIA's trying to ignore my existence after I pointed out how utterly full of shiat he is both in quoting me and in presenting two potentially exclusive statements as one consistent one.
 
2012-09-17 04:44:57 PM
Christ, I would think that we would want to be living in a society in which we considered keeping our people fed to be a minimum standard.
 
2012-09-17 04:45:26 PM

Hollie Maea: Christ, I would think that we would want to be living in a society in which we considered keeping our people fed to be a minimum standard.


If people want bread to live, they'll have to work harder. Then they can have cake.
 
2012-09-17 04:47:03 PM
But Obama is the divisive one. Right.
 
2012-09-17 04:47:24 PM

Nabb1: What's your own personal stake in that? Like six bucks? Do you accepts the PayPal?


I want interest, too. Like you said, you aren't entitled to anything from anyone else, and you don't have the right to demand the government provide you with anything. Your flood protection and oil spill clean up aren't any different than someone else's food stamps.
 
2012-09-17 04:48:34 PM

Dancin_In_Anson: vartian: Look, make the "we're all in this alone" argument with me until you pass out, it will never farking sell with me

How about you take care of yourself FIRST, then look to help others?


What does this even mean? I work 55+ hours a week. I have health insurance. I'm good. This changes nothing about the level of poverty in this country.

It is bizarre how some of you guys come up against compassion and can think of nothing else to do but shout at it until it goes away.
 
2012-09-17 04:50:55 PM

Bloody William: It assumes that those three things are readily available, with no chance of exception or failure, to anyone who wants it. There's a reason we have safety nets, and it's not just because it's the human, civilized thing to have.


I would suggest that in America those three things are readily available without exception or failure to anyone who wants it.

That's a problem. We have confused want with need.
 
2012-09-17 04:51:40 PM

Aarontology: Nabb1: What's your own personal stake in that? Like six bucks? Do you accepts the PayPal?

I want interest, too. Like you said, you aren't entitled to anything from anyone else, and you don't have the right to demand the government provide you with anything. Your flood protection and oil spill clean up aren't any different than someone else's food stamps.


I don't think our flood protection is an entitlement. Considering that the city itself is a major port and is the largest confluence of brown water, blue water and rail shipping in North America, it is an important city to the nation. Protecting it is a good idea, but not an entitlement. Same with cleaning up BP's mess, which, BTW, BP should be footing in its entirety. It's their responsibility to pay for the damage they caused, but I don't think it's something we are "entitled to" from the government. Again, is it a good idea to restore damages wetlands from the oil spill? Of course. Is it an entitlement? No, it is not.
 
2012-09-17 04:52:00 PM

vartian: What does this even mean? I work 55+ hours a week. I have health insurance. I'm good. This changes nothing about the level of poverty in this country.


Got any left? Check my profile. There are a couple of links I'd like you to check out. Thanks!
 
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