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2012-09-17 11:24:50 PM  

mrshowrules: neenerist: mrshowrules: If you have the false assumption that tax cuts are good for the economy,

You have the false assumption we (Canada) did anything superior. That moron Harper pumped $600+B of mortgage guarantees into the economy via the Canada Mortgage and Housing Corporation. Real estate and associated industries are now a hugely inflated percentage of the GDP and the population has personal debt levels rivaling America at the peak of their bubble. Our mouth breathing conservatives used a housing bubble for economic stimulus and we're about to pay the piper. For a generation. So please, please stop.

we didn't cut taxes and we implemented a National sales tax and we properly regulated the banks. If you don't believe me, read the articles about how we avoided the full brunt of the 2008 meltdown. What are we going to pay the piper and when?


I think he's confusing the housing cool down with doom in Canada. It will pass. Don't worry.

Harper is still a dick
 
2012-09-17 11:25:09 PM  

mainstreet62: No one said we were, asshole. I work, I pay taxes (income, property, etc..), and I have compassion for others who are less fortunate, and don't mind if my tax dollars help them. What's YOUR excuse for being a sub-human piece of shiat?


As do I, but I dont sit here with a straight face and think that some people exist solely to provide.

I pay taxes and obey the laws and I'm tired of being called a greedy dick because I'd like to keep half of my paycheck
 
2012-09-17 11:26:19 PM  
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2012-09-17 11:26:30 PM  

skullkrusher: St Jude's household here + some local charities our friends work with. Wasn't implying anything against you personally, just the joke about people spending other people's money saving kids.

/good on you
//throw out St Jude's thank you calendar before you open it. Sad sad stuff
///poor Sally Struthers


You're a good man.

My family (including myself) mostly donates to The Greek Children's Fund at Sloane Kettering, especially nowadays with all the economic hardship in Greece. We've helped out several families with plane tickets, a place to stay, etc.. in addition to funding for the hospital.
 
2012-09-17 11:26:46 PM  

A. Snatchfold: CorporatePerson: Grungehamster: The right wing has circled the wagons. It won't have a ripple effect just because who is going to find out about it in a way that isn't spun as "he was just talking about how the moochers are already in Obama's camp, as we already know" and gloss over him saying they are 47% of the electorate, no matter how obviously false that argument is?

No way this is gonna seriously impact the race. I don't believe there's a single Republican out there who believes they are part of that 47%. Part of voting Republican means you already see yourself as smarter and better than most of the country anyways.

Perhaps not, but maybe the independents will be swayed.


Presidential candidates don't call emergency 10 EST press conferences unless they're trying to put out a huge public relations grass fire out of control. Mitt has just unleashed a genie that he'll never get back in the bottle. This opens up a whole lot of fair game questions ranging to his tax returns to his ability to relate to working class that he doesn't want to spend the last 6 weeks of the campaign clarifying.
 
2012-09-17 11:26:49 PM  

Methadone Girls: mrshowrules: neenerist: mrshowrules: If you have the false assumption that tax cuts are good for the economy,

You have the false assumption we (Canada) did anything superior. That moron Harper pumped $600+B of mortgage guarantees into the economy via the Canada Mortgage and Housing Corporation. Real estate and associated industries are now a hugely inflated percentage of the GDP and the population has personal debt levels rivaling America at the peak of their bubble. Our mouth breathing conservatives used a housing bubble for economic stimulus and we're about to pay the piper. For a generation. So please, please stop.

we didn't cut taxes and we implemented a National sales tax and we properly regulated the banks. If you don't believe me, read the articles about how we avoided the full brunt of the 2008 meltdown. What are we going to pay the piper and when?

I think he's confusing the housing cool down with doom in Canada. It will pass. Don't worry.

Harper is still a dick


Anyways, we should could back to Romney's complete and epic failure.
 
2012-09-17 11:26:55 PM  

skullkrusher: dumbobruni: the argument for your "false" statement would be wealthier americans are not eligible for child tax credits

what you said was "every American with a kid gets subsidized". Tell me, is "being eligible" for subsidies the same as "gets" a subsidy? See, my argument for my "false" statement is "what you said is false".

dumbobruni: but they do remain eligible for 529s

yes, still not the same as "gets".

dumbobruni: and "I would imagine" = "I have no farking clue"

no, I have a pretty good clue, actually. See, that's how taxes work. If everyone just paid for the services they received, it wouldn't be taxes. That's how poorer kids get to go to public school - someone else picks up the slack that their parents cannot.


so who is picking up the slack for wealthy people getting mortgage subsidies?

replace eligible with gets. wealthy people do a very good job of maximizing their subsidies. like mortgages, they get the lions share of the benefits....close to 70% of 529 benefits go to the wealthy. 529s don't have to be used for colleges either.
 
2012-09-17 11:27:22 PM  

eddiesocket: themeaningoflifeisnot: rewind2846: I just KNEW this Mittacular fu(k-up would make a tasty, tasty thread.

Not a good way to endear yourself to da votahs, Mitt... especially when so many of those people on welfare and food stamps and student loans and pell grants and SSI and other assistance are (or were, if they have any sense at all) republicans. I know you were talking with a bunch of your richy-rich-rich buddies and all and didn't think what you said would leave that room, but even with the bad recording the condescension was thick enough to cut with a bejeweled dagger.

If I were a working-class republican, I'd be pissed.
If I were a used-to-be-working-class-but-laid-off republican I'd be even pissed-er.

47% of the citizens of this country. I can smell the smoke from here.

And it's not like that 47% is just people who don't pay federal income taxes because they don't work. It includes the working poor who take advantage of earned income credits. It includes working folk who may not pay federal income tax, but still pay state income tax, which can be pretty significant. It includes working folks who may not pay federal income tax, but do pay significant payroll taxes that fund SS and Medicare.

So, Mitt is shiatting on not just the Republican stereotype of someone sucking at the government teat--black urban welfare queens--but also all of the millions in that 47% number who are actually working hard for not much.

And it includes mostly red staters, those damn mooches: Link


Ugh. Trying again. Link
 
2012-09-17 11:28:20 PM  
So what's the over/under on how many times Obama references 47% during the debates? 500?
 
2012-09-17 11:28:24 PM  
Juxtaposition

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2012-09-17 11:28:30 PM  

spongeboob: Someone who studies education would know more about teaching 2nd graders than parents would, and should be informing the congressman what to do. Leaders why do we elect them if not to lead.


Parents should choose how their children are educated. 100% of parents agree.
 
2012-09-17 11:28:36 PM  

skullkrusher: pacified: why don't poor people just sell their inherited stock options and pay 13% tax on it because it is "carried interest"?

because poor people have to burn their stock certificates for warmth, moran


Liquid shooting out of my nose burns!
 
2012-09-17 11:28:56 PM  

o5iiawah: mainstreet62: No one said we were, asshole. I work, I pay taxes (income, property, etc..), and I have compassion for others who are less fortunate, and don't mind if my tax dollars help them. What's YOUR excuse for being a sub-human piece of shiat?

As do I, but I dont sit here with a straight face and think that some people exist solely to provide.

I pay taxes and obey the laws and I'm tired of being called a greedy dick because I'd like to keep half of my paycheck


Tell me how you don't get to keep half your paycheck.
 
2012-09-17 11:29:05 PM  

mrshowrules: Methadone Girls: mrshowrules: neenerist: mrshowrules: If you have the false assumption that tax cuts are good for the economy,

You have the false assumption we (Canada) did anything superior. That moron Harper pumped $600+B of mortgage guarantees into the economy via the Canada Mortgage and Housing Corporation. Real estate and associated industries are now a hugely inflated percentage of the GDP and the population has personal debt levels rivaling America at the peak of their bubble. Our mouth breathing conservatives used a housing bubble for economic stimulus and we're about to pay the piper. For a generation. So please, please stop.

we didn't cut taxes and we implemented a National sales tax and we properly regulated the banks. If you don't believe me, read the articles about how we avoided the full brunt of the 2008 meltdown. What are we going to pay the piper and when?

I think he's confusing the housing cool down with doom in Canada. It will pass. Don't worry.

Harper is still a dick

Anyways, we should could back to Romney's complete and epic failure.


It really was beautiful.
 
2012-09-17 11:29:14 PM  

InmanRoshi: This opens up a whole lot of fair game questions ranging to his tax returns


Can't be overstated enough.
 
2012-09-17 11:29:35 PM  
Let's raise the minimum wage to $20/hr. Those suckers will be paying tax in no time!

(The 47% is a cherry-picked number of single filers from 2009, the worst recession year, so it's filled with underemployed folks and single parents, whose childcare credits wipe out federal income tax. The normal number is in the 30s somewhere, I've read numbers ranging form 33-39.--So really it's mostly old people and actual poor working people. The lucky duckies!)
 
2012-09-17 11:29:40 PM  

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Mitt Romney looks like he's either high on speed or has a curling iron up his ass. He's clearly rattled.
 
2012-09-17 11:30:42 PM  

Sir Roderick Glossop: /Don't blame me, I voted for Huntsman.


Don't blame me, either, I voted for Gingrich. But I admit I was wrong--Romney's somehow even worse at this than Nominee Newt would be.

/open primaries for the lulz
 
2012-09-17 11:30:47 PM  

o5iiawah: rewind2846: 1. Because we are human beings, not animals in the jungle.
2. Because any one of us could be in the same situation ourselves, even the most wealthy of us.

Do you really think we would have survived as a species if we did not help each other and share what we had?
That is what sets us apart from most other animals... and even some of them group together for their mutual benefit. Packs, prides, gaggles, herds, etc.... strength and survival in numbers.

The argument is not that we should help one another but whether it should be compulsory by law at the Federal level. The fact that we are human beings means that we need to operate our society on a basis of law. When you make a statement like "we are humans, so we should help each other" do you mean that each human should out of the goodness of their heart help someone else in need or are you in favor of making it Law that if one individual is in need, it is the obligation of another individual to provide with subsequent punishment if the individual in unwilling or unable? Personally? I'm in favor of a small safety net to help individuals out and my state (PA) has a small income tax which supports those things. Consequently, I am relatively close to my local representatives who vote on these laws at the state level..

People who frame arguments like this often do so with 2 choices: Central Control or Mad-Max anarchy....That if you oppose massive federal benefit programs then you want to live in Somalia.

Mrtraveler01: But hey, thanks to those states, it'll make it easier for me to find a job over their unqualified asses.

And it shouldn't be the job of a steelworker in PA or a personal trainer in California to subsidize the lousy decisions of a school board in Texas since those individuals have no say in the matter, they are just asked to pay taxes and shut the fark up.

So an entity run by the government is not socialism?

what layer of government? You're aware we have those things, right?


Just admit your a total states' rights supporter, you'd be happy with a return to the Articles of Confederation, and you want every state to be it's own little country...except when they need military protection, tariff controls, interstate highways, impartial courts of law and all the trappings of Full Faith & Credit and Privileges and Immunities we so take for granted that we don't even know they're there.

I'm sorry, but you can't have it both ways. Either we are 50 separate countries--which is fine by me, I live in California and we're almost a country by ourselves--or we have a strong central government that can enforce unity between our several states and that means assisting the poorer residents of other states. If you don't like that, fine. But be prepared for a massive immigration from the flyover states to the coasts when your vision of a perfect Un-United States comes to pass. Without support and protection from the federal government, states like Wyoming, Arkansas and Tennessee will be unable to survive for very long, and they won't stay where the jobs and money aren't.
 
2012-09-17 11:30:55 PM  

o5iiawah: I pay taxes and obey the laws and I'm tired of being called a greedy dick because I'd like to keep half of my paycheck


You're not a greedy dick because you'd like to keep half your paycheck.

Romney, however, is a greedy dick because he pays 15% of his real and tangible gains as taxes now, finds it contemptible that he's paying that much, and under his proposed tax structure would instead pay (Bill Clinton voice) ZEE ROH.
 
2012-09-17 11:31:05 PM  

o5iiawah: spongeboob: Someone who studies education would know more about teaching 2nd graders than parents would, and should be informing the congressman what to do. Leaders why do we elect them if not to lead.

Parents should choose how their children are educated. 100% of parents agree.


I agree. That's why parents have a choice in where their kids can go to school/be home schooled. 

I don't agree with them writing the curriculum though. That's how the religious zealots get away with that creationism intelligent design bullcrap.
 
2012-09-17 11:31:25 PM  

o5iiawah: I pay taxes and obey the laws and I'm tired of being called a greedy dick because I'd like to keep half of my paycheck


i.chzbgr.com
 
2012-09-17 11:31:55 PM  

o5iiawah: spongeboob: Someone who studies education would know more about teaching 2nd graders than parents would, and should be informing the congressman what to do. Leaders why do we elect them if not to lead.

Parents should choose how their children are educated. 100% of parents agree.


Because those who study how children learn don't know as much as parents do. Gotchya.

Do you even have kids?
 
2012-09-17 11:32:12 PM  

quartercomma: Let's raise the minimum wage to $20/hr. Those suckers will be paying tax in no time!

(The 47% is a cherry-picked number of single filers from 2009, the worst recession year, so it's filled with underemployed folks and single parents, whose childcare credits wipe out federal income tax. The normal number is in the 30s somewhere, I've read numbers ranging form 33-39.--So really it's mostly old people and actual poor working people. The lucky duckies!)


This. It is a one year snap shot. Who knows how much tax those people paid in other years, over their lifetime.
 
2012-09-17 11:32:13 PM  

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I think this is the first time in the years since I've heard of him that I've seen him looking like anything BUT an overconfident, smug douchenozzle.

The schadenfreude...it is gloriously tasty...
 
2012-09-17 11:33:46 PM  

Dancin_In_Anson: they are "dependent on government" and "believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing,"

Is this an inaccurate statement?


considering he was saying it about all Obama supporters, no, no it isn't since i personally know many (myself included) who pay taxes and is not dependent on gov't. So if there is even one obama supporter who pays taxes and isn't dependent on gov't , it is an inaccurate statement.

you are just asking questions though, right cutie?
 
2012-09-17 11:33:55 PM  

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Lol, "Not elegantly stated". That's a hell of a campaign slogan there, Mitt.
 
2012-09-17 11:34:08 PM  

spongeboob: o5iiawah: mainstreet62: No one said we were, asshole. I work, I pay taxes (income, property, etc..), and I have compassion for others who are less fortunate, and don't mind if my tax dollars help them. What's YOUR excuse for being a sub-human piece of shiat?

As do I, but I dont sit here with a straight face and think that some people exist solely to provide.

I pay taxes and obey the laws and I'm tired of being called a greedy dick because I'd like to keep half of my paycheck

Tell me how you don't get to keep half your paycheck.


It's because of selfish, greedy dicks like this one that we have to have laws requiring taxes to go to social services. Can you even imagine him voluntarily donating any of his hardearned money to charity? F*ck no, if he didn't have to pay taxes he'd be in his basement counting all his extra money like a dragon on its hoard.
 
2012-09-17 11:34:11 PM  

o5iiawah: rewind2846: 1. Because we are human beings, not animals in the jungle.
2. Because any one of us could be in the same situation ourselves, even the most wealthy of us.

Do you really think we would have survived as a species if we did not help each other and share what we had?
That is what sets us apart from most other animals... and even some of them group together for their mutual benefit. Packs, prides, gaggles, herds, etc.... strength and survival in numbers.

The argument is not that we should help one another but whether it should be compulsory by law at the Federal level. The fact that we are human beings means that we need to operate our society on a basis of law. When you make a statement like "we are humans, so we should help each other" do you mean that each human should out of the goodness of their heart help someone else in need or are you in favor of making it Law that if one individual is in need, it is the obligation of another individual to provide with subsequent punishment if the individual in unwilling or unable? Personally? I'm in favor of a small safety net to help individuals out and my state (PA) has a small income tax which supports those things. Consequently, I am relatively close to my local representatives who vote on these laws at the state level..

People who frame arguments like this often do so with 2 choices: Central Control or Mad-Max anarchy....That if you oppose massive federal benefit programs then you want to live in Somalia.

Mrtraveler01: But hey, thanks to those states, it'll make it easier for me to find a job over their unqualified asses.

And it shouldn't be the job of a steelworker in PA or a personal trainer in California to subsidize the lousy decisions of a school board in Texas since those individuals have no say in the matter, they are just asked to pay taxes and shut the fark up.

So an entity run by the government is not socialism?

what layer of government? You're aware we have those things, right?


Safety net programs are the hallmark of a first world country, their is no prosperous country that exists without them. What exactly do you want to do away with?

Realitity has passed about as cLear a verdict as it ever does on the issue of social programs and it seems your ideas are on the wrong side, but I could be wrong, if you clarified exactly what you want to eliminate that would be a start.
 
2012-09-17 11:34:52 PM  

o5iiawah: spongeboob: Someone who studies education would know more about teaching 2nd graders than parents would, and should be informing the congressman what to do. Leaders why do we elect them if not to lead.

Parents should choose how their children are educated. 100% of parents agree.



Yeah why have teachers and education programs parents know how to educate their kids.
 
2012-09-17 11:37:14 PM  
taxfoundation.org
 
2012-09-17 11:37:52 PM  

spongeboob: o5iiawah: mainstreet62: No one said we were, asshole. I work, I pay taxes (income, property, etc..), and I have compassion for others who are less fortunate, and don't mind if my tax dollars help them. What's YOUR excuse for being a sub-human piece of shiat?

As do I, but I dont sit here with a straight face and think that some people exist solely to provide.

I pay taxes and obey the laws and I'm tired of being called a greedy dick because I'd like to keep half of my paycheck

Tell me how you don't get to keep half your paycheck.


he must have a ridiculously expensive health care plan.

even in NYC, one of the most heavily taxed places in the nation, the total tax rate doesn't hit 50% even assuming no deductions.
 
2012-09-17 11:38:15 PM  

dumbobruni: so who is picking up the slack for wealthy people getting mortgage subsidies?


ah, the 1/2 of your post that I said was true you mean?

dumbobruni: replace eligible with gets. wealthy people do a very good job of maximizing their subsidies. like mortgages, they get the lions share of the benefits....close to 70% of 529 benefits go to the wealthy. 529s don't have to be used for colleges either.


I would be interested in seeing these stats on 529s. 529 contributions are post federal taxes and often tax deductible on state taxes depending on your state. Distribution of earnings are federal tax exempt for qualified educational expenditures.
 
2012-09-17 11:39:09 PM  

Funk Brothers: I find it amusing that the Romney tape filmed in May took until mid-September to be shown. The Democrats are fighting a losing battle. The Democrats are pulling the few straws they have left. They know their poll numbers from the convention bump are declining and Romney is closing the gap. When the October Surprise comes around, Obama will be doomed.

This is 1980 all over again and it seems a Carter is involved in this candidacy.


Are you serious? This isn't mine, but it's a perfect response:

Obama is not Carter. Romney is not Reagan. And it's not 1980.

Obama winning this election is all but a given. The real battle is in Congress.

If I'm wrong, feel free to save this comment and laugh at me in November.
 
2012-09-17 11:39:37 PM  

mainstreet62: skullkrusher: St Jude's household here + some local charities our friends work with. Wasn't implying anything against you personally, just the joke about people spending other people's money saving kids.

/good on you
//throw out St Jude's thank you calendar before you open it. Sad sad stuff
///poor Sally Struthers

You're a good man.

My family (including myself) mostly donates to The Greek Children's Fund at Sloane Kettering, especially nowadays with all the economic hardship in Greece. We've helped out several families with plane tickets, a place to stay, etc.. in addition to funding for the hospital.


very nice. Had to talk my wife out of fostering kids. She's going through post-Republican withdrawal and we're just not ready for that sort of thing right now :)
 
2012-09-17 11:39:44 PM  
So, how would one "elegantly" state that sentiment, Mitt?
 
2012-09-17 11:40:45 PM  
What Mitt actually said is less interesting to me then how he's handling it. Mitt held a hasty presser, seemed flustered that the press wasn't going along with his explanation for events, and walked away after three questions. This is a preview of Mitt handling a national emergency. If he was this flustered by a potential hit to his poll numbers, I sure as hell don't want him leading in a situation where people could actually die.

/where's your smirk now, motherfarker?
 
2012-09-17 11:40:48 PM  
"not elegantly stated"

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Cornelius Hackl knows Mitt will never ever carry this election off like that.
 
2012-09-17 11:41:08 PM  

Methadone Girls: Because those who study how children learn don't know as much as parents do. Gotchya.

Do you even have kids?


I've had significant experience raising childrens within my own family.

You made a correct statement and then followed it up with sarcasm. You should have stuck with it the first time. Those who study how children learn can provide all of the knowledge in the world, if the parent doesn't want the child in that curriculum, it should be their choice.

Gyrfalcon: ust admit your a total states' rights supporter, you'd be happy with a return to the Articles of Confederation, and you want every state to be it's own little country..


What do the articles of confederation have to do with this? They were a complete and abject failure. We should Follow the Constitution, which plainly lays out the function of the federal government. If you dont like it, there's avenues to change it.

I think states are best equipped to handle state issues just as counties and townships are best equipped to handle issues at that level. If a bunch of hayseeds in MS want to write a textbook about Man walking with dinosaurs that is their own business, so long as it is their taxes that go to fund the school and not mine.
 
2012-09-17 11:41:50 PM  
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Huh. I guess Mittens only grins when he's talking about dead Americans. When it's his campaign that's dead, he turns into Mr. Frowny Pants.
 
2012-09-17 11:43:58 PM  

sirrerun: So, how would one "elegantly" state that sentiment, Mitt?


Keep the words the same, but raise your pinky. And keep your monacle adjusted.
 
2012-09-17 11:44:15 PM  

o5iiawah: mainstreet62: No one said we were, asshole. I work, I pay taxes (income, property, etc..), and I have compassion for others who are less fortunate, and don't mind if my tax dollars help them. What's YOUR excuse for being a sub-human piece of shiat?

As do I, but I dont sit here with a straight face and think that some people exist solely to provide.

I pay taxes and obey the laws and I'm tired of being called a greedy dick because I'd like to keep half of my paycheck


You're keeping closer to 75% of your paycheck, probably more. Don't be obtuse.

Taxes are fundamental to society, they provide basic services that we all need. You know this. Unfortunately, you think "freeloaders" are out to get you. This is simply not true. You really need to get over that, you and about 25% of this population of the United States.

Of course, paying as little in taxes is something that is in everyone's interests, but only if society has it's safety nets intact.
 
2012-09-17 11:44:33 PM  

shower_in_my_socks: [imageshack.us image 600x400]

Huh. I guess Mittens only grins when he's talking about dead Americans. When it's his campaign that's dead, he turns into Mr. Frowny Pants.


That image will never get old. I'd save it to my computer, if I wasn't so sure doing so would irreparably corrupt my hard drive.
 
2012-09-17 11:44:59 PM  
Don't you think he looks tired?
 
2012-09-17 11:45:01 PM  

sirrerun: So, how would one "elegantly" state that sentiment, Mitt?


mainstreet62: o5iiawah: We arent a society where a minority provide and the majority receive.

No one said we were, asshole. I work, I pay taxes (income, property, etc..), and I have compassion for others who are less fortunate, and don't mind if my tax dollars help them. What's YOUR excuse for being a sub-human piece of shiat?

o5iiawah: Go fark yourself if you think you're entitled to someone else's property simply because you exist.

Hey, look, I found a picture of you in the background. 

[4.bp.blogspot.com image 640x427] 

It's too bad we can feed the f*cking idiots like you in this country to the starving children.


Somebody get that kid some bootstraps.
 
2012-09-17 11:45:10 PM  

shower_in_my_socks: Huh. I guess Mittens only grins when he's talking about dead Americans. When it's his campaign that's dead, he turns into Mr. Frowny Pants.


Those dead Americans could be blamed on Obama, or at least they could have been, if mitt hadn't pulled the trigger a little to soon.
 
2012-09-17 11:45:16 PM  

skullkrusher: dumbobruni: so who is picking up the slack for wealthy people getting mortgage subsidies?

ah, the 1/2 of your post that I said was true you mean?

dumbobruni: replace eligible with gets. wealthy people do a very good job of maximizing their subsidies. like mortgages, they get the lions share of the benefits....close to 70% of 529 benefits go to the wealthy. 529s don't have to be used for colleges either.

I would be interested in seeing these stats on 529s. 529 contributions are post federal taxes and often tax deductible on state taxes depending on your state. Distribution of earnings are federal tax exempt for qualified educational expenditures.


false, for the first half of my statement that you disagree with.

http://www.house.leg.state.mn.us/hrd/pubs/529plans.pdf
 
2012-09-17 11:45:42 PM  

o5iiawah: In the absence of a crime, When did one person incur a debt to take care of another?


2.bp.blogspot.com

Moochers. They need to bootstrap themselves
 
2012-09-17 11:45:44 PM  

indylaw: Don't you think he looks tired?


I've never seen his hair that out of place before.
 
2012-09-17 11:45:45 PM  

skullkrusher: mainstreet62: skullkrusher: St Jude's household here + some local charities our friends work with. Wasn't implying anything against you personally, just the joke about people spending other people's money saving kids.

/good on you
//throw out St Jude's thank you calendar before you open it. Sad sad stuff
///poor Sally Struthers

You're a good man.

My family (including myself) mostly donates to The Greek Children's Fund at Sloane Kettering, especially nowadays with all the economic hardship in Greece. We've helped out several families with plane tickets, a place to stay, etc.. in addition to funding for the hospital.

very nice. Had to talk my wife out of fostering kids. She's going through post-Republican withdrawal and we're just not ready for that sort of thing right now :)


Eh, get her a few cats. Or a vacation. Girls like those. ;-)
 
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