Concrete wall ahead?

farkit.

If I didn't know where I was and I was blind while driving...you bet I'd be panicing.

MayoSlather: If I didn't know where I was and I was blind while driving...you bet I'd be panicing.

k

Men would not need to ask for directions if women could read a stinking map.

The only time I've ever suffered from 'blind panic' was in some broad's room that didn't have any curtains to wipe my dick on.

Indubitably: MayoSlather: If I didn't know where I was and I was blind while driving...you bet I'd be panicing.

k

Yeah I saw that as soon as i posted.

If it were not for the fact that men cannot ask for direction we would not have GPS for out cars.

According to the article, women think people don't turn on the lights in the house in the morning?

/my wife might think so since her "morning" usually starts around 10:30

MayoSlather: Indubitably: MayoSlather: If I didn't know where I was and I was blind while driving...you bet I'd be panicing.

k

Yeah I saw that as soon as i posted.

Does not dissuade love.

It's simple. Men don't ask for directions because they are given out by other men. And they are usually wrong.

I definitely turned on the lights when I woke up before the sun was up this morning. Am I some kind of weirdo?

brap: Thank goodness for GPS is all I'm gonna say.

Although it does ruin my annual vacation trip through the worst part of town.

Men actually preplan their trip to a new place. Using the googles.
The printed maps are backups invade navteq's data on the nuvi crapped the bed. GIS Data quality is better than quantity.

aerojockey: I, as a man, do ask for directions when I'm lost, especially when there's a lady with me, but it's only because I'm making a conscious decision not to be "that guy". If I had no shame, I'd be the super-most-never-asking-directions-est man there was.

"as a van, wut?"

I quit going out of town the last time my wife got us lost.She had us headed east toward La.instead of north
to St.Louis.Ergo,I don't need no stinking directions.

Another Government Employee: It's simple. Men don't ask for directions because they are given out by other men. And they are usually wrong.

Yup. My wife and I always have this disagreement about directions.

I'm not adverse to asking directions from someone I think will provide good directions but I generally don't ask just anyone around.

She will ask anyone around--and it's amazing how many bad directions she gets.

Oh I've driven all over New England and I have a basic lay of the land embedded in my brain. I don't have to stop and ask for directions. I know how to get to the major roadways. That's all you really need.

Not asking directions is not a male trait. It may be a common habit in certain cultures, but that's all.

Take a cross-town taxi ride in the Middle East and your driver will unabashedly stop to ask directions about half a dozen times. You'll notice too that he'll preferentially ask directions of groups of men, which will result in lengthy curbside debates with arms pointing out every which way.

I think it has to do with different habits of mind you grow up with. A Western man finding his way believes that he is faced with a navigational problem. If he doesn't ask for help with it, it's probably because he has no reason to assume that some random bystander is better able to solve it, or because it's his problem and he doesn't want to be rude and impose it on others. An Arab man (at least among the ones I've known) is raised to solve problems by consensus and is always checking his results with others; and he's also raised to think it perfectly polite to accost strangers and set them to work on his problems.

If a Western woman is more inclined to ask directions, I bet it is due to her assumption (possibly unjustified and born of self-doubt) that a randomly selected strange is better able to find her destination than she is.

A real man wouldn't get lost to begin with.

I (honestly) usually know where I'm going but pretend to get lost because the drama gives her something to do.

Adding random strangers to the mix either kills my joy or introduces an actual problem. No thanks.

I've always been very good with getting from point A to point B doing a lot of traveling and tours and stuff, however, the whole "men NEVER ask for directions" stereotype thing is sort of lost on me because, in those occasions where I did lose my way, I had no compunction whatsoever about pulling into a gas station and asking the man "where the hell am I?".

zez: According to the article, women think people don't turn on the lights in the house in the morning?

This. And my second thought...if you don't know what time it is, morning or evening, you probably have larger problems then being lost.

Gyrfalcon: "It is a little like creating something from a box - the women will read the instructions to find out how it should be done and the men will just go forth and see what bits are left over."

No comment. Well, none that I can make without laughing at EVERY SINGLE MAN I KNOW.

Just a guess here, but you probably don't mean "Single" men. As in not married. Cause, single men get by just fine. They are single. They are still alive. Obviously they didn't need a woman to tell them they are wrong. Ofc, women might feel differently, but that gets to 1 of the many reasons they are single.

So, you are probably talking about men you have dated and or married, hence all the men you "know". This brings me to the conclusion that your choice in men is the issue here. That there are plenty of men who know what to do, where to go, how to read directions. And you apparently avoid them like the plague for whatever reason.

BummerDuck: Gyrfalcon: "It is a little like creating something from a box - the women will read the instructions to find out how it should be done and the men will just go forth and see what bits are left over."

No comment. Well, none that I can make without laughing at EVERY SINGLE MAN I KNOW.

Just a guess here, but you probably don't mean "Single" men. As in not married. Cause, single men get by just fine. They are single. They are still alive. Obviously they didn't need a woman to tell them they are wrong. Ofc, women might feel differently, but that gets to 1 of the many reasons they are single.

So, you are probably talking about men you have dated and or married, hence all the men you "know". This brings me to the conclusion that your choice in men is the issue here. That there are plenty of men who know what to do, where to go, how to read directions. And you apparently avoid them like the plague for whatever reason.

check and mate.

Gyrfalcon: BummerDuck: Gyrfalcon: "It is a little like creating something from a box - the women will read the instructions to find out how it should be done and the men will just go forth and see what bits are left over."

No comment. Well, none that I can make without laughing at EVERY SINGLE MAN I KNOW.

Just a guess here, but you probably don't mean "Single" men. As in not married. Cause, single men get by just fine. They are single. They are still alive. Obviously they didn't need a woman to tell them they are wrong. Ofc, women might feel differently, but that gets to 1 of the many reasons they are single.

So, you are probably talking about men you have dated and or married, hence all the men you "know". This brings me to the conclusion that your choice in men is the issue here. That there are plenty of men who know what to do, where to go, how to read directions. And you apparently avoid them like the plague for whatever reason.

Point last seen headed over BummerDuck's head, into Earth-Pluto trajectory.

Perhaps if your aim was better...

zez: According to the article, women think people don't turn on the lights in the house in the morning?

I caught this right away too! WTF?! The lights are *MORE* likely to be on at dawn because it's darker before. Lights on and off tend to lag the outside lighting levels. These women must all be mistresses or layabouts without jobs, kids, etc.

Just because you haven't seen another car for an hour doesn't mean you're lost. Didn't you go at the last rest stop? I'll just pull over. Nobody is going to see, you just said you haven't seen any other traffic on this road!

aerojockey: I, as a man, do ask for directions when I'm lost, especially when there's a lady with me, but it's only because I'm making a conscious decision not to be "that guy". If I had no shame, I'd be the super-most-never-asking-directions-est man there was.

So you're "that guy"

Old worn out meme is old and worn out

roll em up kids

Speak for yourself Nigel. We American males know EXACTLY where we are every moment of every day that we tread on Earth.

Gyrfalcon: "It is a little like creating something from a box - the women will read the instructions to find out how it should be done and the men will just go forth and see what bits are left over."

No comment. Well, none that I can make without laughing at EVERY SINGLE MAN I KNOW.

Stereotypes like this belong in the same family as the tired old accusations of "golddigging" that we see so often on Fark every time a woman profits materially from her sexual relationships. (And, that said, we guys have no right to complain when the ladies serve it back at us.) It's a cynical attempt to cast in the ugliest light behavior that likely has respectable motives.

It's perfectly laudable to be inclined to solve your own problems rather than foist them on whomever has the misfortune to be around you. A person who tries his best to find his own way becomes better at this than one who quickly asks for help. Some people actually relish problem solving in itself and find being walked through a task by a a sheet of instructions boring, because the mind isn't engaged when you're following steps the way it is when you're reasoning out the procedure for yourself.  Perhaps it invites ridicule to take pride in problem solving, but there are many worse things that men are often proud of.

"I think maybe our outlook and our view is different. I would say that women are more open to alternative suggestions.
"It is a little like creating something from a box - the women will read the instructions to find out how it should be done and the men will just go forth and see what bits are left over."

So, to paraphrase:

"women tend to be open to alternative suggestions, so they follow directions exactly."

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There are two very different ways of being 'lost'. One is not knowing where 'where you are going' is, and the other is not knowing the easiest way to get there. If I don't know where a street is I'll stop and ask for directions. If I know that it's roughly in the NE part of the city I don't care that I don't know the name of the little side street I'm on as long as it's heading me NE.

I think that's how most guys deal with it. Here is the thing though... we guys traditionally are the person who gets to drive. It starts from the first moment we pick you ladies up on a date. When you are driving you are really paying much closer attention to things like direction. Think about it- how many times have you ridden in a car to someplace and then been asked to drive next time? Did you ask for directions? Once you've been the driver though you'll have it down. For a more dramatic example, play a video game, preferably one that's a few years old, so all the rooms look pretty much the same, just like urban strip malls. After a few minutes you'll be flying down the roads or corridors, making turns and keeping your bearings. You'll get to know every turn in the game. Now watch someone else play the same game. Even although you know the map you'll get lost because you don't have that added input of making the decision.

Now imagine you are city in a car. The guy in the driver's seat knows you are somewhere in Kansas. You are going to NYC. He doesn't know the name of the road you are on. He doesn't care. He is heading east-ish and pretty happy. You however don't have that input because you haven't been making the decisions. It's much harder for you to just pee behind a tree so things like rest stations matter more. You're furious because he's 'lost'. He's not, at least in the sense of whether he'll get there or not, lost. He may not know where the next rest stop is, but that's not part of the male definition of lost.

People from out of town, male and female, often stop by the firehouse for directions. I think that fact agrees with the theories upthread that men aren't necessarily opposed to asking, they just want to be sure they're asking someone likely to give them the right answer.

I always offer to show them on the huge wall map, with men accepting most of the time and women almost always refusing.

zez: According to the article, women think people don't turn on the lights in the house in the morning?

/my wife might think so since her "morning" usually starts around 10:30

Later it's 'all the lights'.

In the morning, probably lights are on as needed (kitchen, mainly; bathroom lights are probably not visible from the road). You're unlikely to turn lights on incidentally if it's semi-dark because to your eyes it's getting lighter and anyway it's going to be even lighter soon (but you're leaving soon so who cares).

In the evening, you've probably got more people moving around doing lots of stuff in different rooms so it's more likely 'all' the living area lights are on including most of the bedrooms, and the porch lights as well. You notice/know it's getting darker so you're more likely to to turn lights on and leave them on even when they're not actually necessary.

I know no one in my family ever used the living room or dining room in the mornings, and usually the hallway and porch lights were off. Whereas in the evening literally every light in the house was on, almost constantly, as soon as the sun started going down.

chuckufarlie: Men would not need to ask for directions if women could read a stinking map.

My ex girlfriend couldnt read a gps.

Shed constantly not tell me the next turn until we passed it.

wcvanhorne: zez: According to the article, women think people don't turn on the lights in the house in the morning?

I caught this right away too! WTF?! The lights are *MORE* likely to be on at dawn because it's darker before. Lights on and off tend to lag the outside lighting levels. These women must all be mistresses or layabouts without jobs, kids, etc.

They haven`t got up early enough to see the sun come up ever.

HoratioGates: There are two very different ways of being 'lost'. One is not knowing where 'where you are going' is, and the other is not knowing the easiest way to get there.

the third is "I know where I`m going and how to get there but where the hell am I now?"

I won't own a GPS, takes all the fun out of traveling and my Drill Sgt took a lot of time to teach me how to read a map, I have to honor that.

Mr. Potatoass: The only time I've ever suffered from 'blind panic' was in some broad's room that didn't have any curtains to wipe my dick on.

You should have just used her hair like the rest of us do.

if_i_really_have_to: zez: According to the article, women think people don't turn on the lights in the house in the morning?

/my wife might think so since her "morning" usually starts around 10:30

Later it's 'all the lights'.

In the morning, probably lights are on as needed (kitchen, mainly; bathroom lights are probably not visible from the road). You're unlikely to turn lights on incidentally if it's semi-dark because to your eyes it's getting lighter and anyway it's going to be even lighter soon (but you're leaving soon so who cares).

In the evening, you've probably got more people moving around doing lots of stuff in different rooms so it's more likely 'all' the living area lights are on including most of the bedrooms, and the porch lights as well. You notice/know it's getting darker so you're more likely to to turn lights on and leave them on even when they're not actually necessary.

I know no one in my family ever used the living room or dining room in the mornings, and usually the hallway and porch lights were off. Whereas in the evening literally every light in the house was on, almost constantly, as soon as the sun started going down.

Our house, exact opposite. I get up at first light with my dogs, and tend to turn on all the lights to try and wake myself up. At night, we start dimming everything as we start relaxing for bed. I wonder if there's correlation to how easily I get up in the morning and how readily I go to bed now with the fact I adjust my lights to my schedule, deliberately.