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(Yahoo)   "Star Trek"-style warp drive more of a possibility, as scientist refine a concept based around a football-shaped spacecraft. Go Steelers   (news.yahoo.com ) divider line
    More: Cool, Star Trek, warp speed, faster than light, laws of physics, Icarus Interstellar, mass-energy, Miguel Alcubierre, Johnson Space Center  
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2012-09-17 01:38:58 PM  
This ring, potentially made of exotic matter, would cause space-time to warp around the starship, creating a region of contracted space in front of it and expanded space behind.

While it's nice that they've adjusted the Alcubierre equations so maintaining the warp field doesn't require more energy than exists in the known universe, it seems that it still relies on materials that don't actually exist.

I wonder if they've figured out how to stop the craft without destroying it once they establish the field. IIRC, that's another slight problem with the concept.
 
2012-09-17 01:43:24 PM  

Jubeebee: This ring, potentially made of exotic matter, would cause space-time to warp around the starship, creating a region of contracted space in front of it and expanded space behind.

While it's nice that they've adjusted the Alcubierre equations so maintaining the warp field doesn't require more energy than exists in the known universe, it seems that it still relies on materials that don't actually exist.

I wonder if they've figured out how to stop the craft without destroying it once they establish the field. IIRC, that's another slight problem with the concept.


i141.photobucket.com
 
2012-09-17 01:53:51 PM  
"For God's sake Jim, I'm a doctor, not a wide receiver!"
 
2012-09-17 01:59:01 PM  

Jubeebee: This ring, potentially made of exotic matter, would cause space-time to warp around the starship, creating a region of contracted space in front of it and expanded space behind.

While it's nice that they've adjusted the Alcubierre equations so maintaining the warp field doesn't require more energy than exists in the known universe, it seems that it still relies on materials that don't actually exist.

I wonder if they've figured out how to stop the craft without destroying it once they establish the field. IIRC, that's another slight problem with the concept.


Or the sheer radiation hell it would unleash when the bubble collapsed upon reaching your destination.
 
2012-09-17 02:01:04 PM  

GAT_00: Jubeebee: This ring, potentially made of exotic matter, would cause space-time to warp around the starship, creating a region of contracted space in front of it and expanded space behind.

While it's nice that they've adjusted the Alcubierre equations so maintaining the warp field doesn't require more energy than exists in the known universe, it seems that it still relies on materials that don't actually exist.

I wonder if they've figured out how to stop the craft without destroying it once they establish the field. IIRC, that's another slight problem with the concept.

Or the sheer radiation hell it would unleash when the bubble collapsed upon reaching your destination.


"We can't stop, for THAR BE DEMONS!"
 
2012-09-17 02:01:29 PM  
"THROW THE F*CKING SPACE SHIP ALREADY ROTHLISBERGER!"
 
2012-09-17 02:06:49 PM  
They set up what they call the White-Juday Warp Field Interferometer at the Johnson Space Center, essentially creating a laser interferometer that instigates micro versions of space-time warps.

I wonder how many cochranes that thing will produce...
 
2012-09-17 02:21:19 PM  
It's not the warp drive that hurts, it's the sudden science derp at the end
 
2012-09-17 02:22:48 PM  
beware the touchdown spike at the end of the pass
 
2012-09-17 02:23:48 PM  

GAT_00: Or the sheer radiation hell it would unleash when the bubble collapsed upon reaching your destination.


That's only a problem for those folks in the way
 
2012-09-17 02:24:54 PM  

GAT_00: Jubeebee: This ring, potentially made of exotic matter, would cause space-time to warp around the starship, creating a region of contracted space in front of it and expanded space behind.

While it's nice that they've adjusted the Alcubierre equations so maintaining the warp field doesn't require more energy than exists in the known universe, it seems that it still relies on materials that don't actually exist.

I wonder if they've figured out how to stop the craft without destroying it once they establish the field. IIRC, that's another slight problem with the concept.

Or the sheer radiation hell it would unleash when the bubble collapsed upon reaching your destination.


Man kind has endured hellish trips of unimaginable durations in the name of science, exploration, and raping indians. I imagine any future astronaut would be willing to wait the month or two it would take to slowly "taxi in" to the solar system they jumped to.
 
2012-09-17 02:24:54 PM  

GAT_00: Jubeebee: This ring, potentially made of exotic matter, would cause space-time to warp around the starship, creating a region of contracted space in front of it and expanded space behind.

While it's nice that they've adjusted the Alcubierre equations so maintaining the warp field doesn't require more energy than exists in the known universe, it seems that it still relies on materials that don't actually exist.

I wonder if they've figured out how to stop the craft without destroying it once they establish the field. IIRC, that's another slight problem with the concept.

Or the sheer radiation hell it would unleash when the bubble collapsed upon reaching your destination.


What part of exotic matter do you not understand? Exotic matter will solve both of those problems.
 
2012-09-17 02:27:34 PM  

Saiga410: GAT_00: Jubeebee: This ring, potentially made of exotic matter, would cause space-time to warp around the starship, creating a region of contracted space in front of it and expanded space behind.

While it's nice that they've adjusted the Alcubierre equations so maintaining the warp field doesn't require more energy than exists in the known universe, it seems that it still relies on materials that don't actually exist.

I wonder if they've figured out how to stop the craft without destroying it once they establish the field. IIRC, that's another slight problem with the concept.

Or the sheer radiation hell it would unleash when the bubble collapsed upon reaching your destination.

What part of exotic matter do you not understand? Exotic matter will solve both of those problems.


It's either Handwavium or Unobtonium. I can never remember which one is "FARK YOU" on th periodic table.
 
2012-09-17 02:29:41 PM  

Saiga410: GAT_00: Jubeebee: This ring, potentially made of exotic matter, would cause space-time to warp around the starship, creating a region of contracted space in front of it and expanded space behind.

While it's nice that they've adjusted the Alcubierre equations so maintaining the warp field doesn't require more energy than exists in the known universe, it seems that it still relies on materials that don't actually exist.

I wonder if they've figured out how to stop the craft without destroying it once they establish the field. IIRC, that's another slight problem with the concept.

Or the sheer radiation hell it would unleash when the bubble collapsed upon reaching your destination.

What part of exotic matter do you not understand? Exotic matter will solve both of those problems.


I dunno how I feel about that. On the one hand it allows interstellar travel. On the other hand, it's hard enough for regular matter to get a job these days.
 
2012-09-17 02:29:55 PM  
Isn't there usually some wannabe robot shiatting all over these FTL threads?
 
2012-09-17 02:32:19 PM  

halB: Saiga410: GAT_00: Jubeebee: This ring, potentially made of exotic matter, would cause space-time to warp around the starship, creating a region of contracted space in front of it and expanded space behind.

While it's nice that they've adjusted the Alcubierre equations so maintaining the warp field doesn't require more energy than exists in the known universe, it seems that it still relies on materials that don't actually exist.

I wonder if they've figured out how to stop the craft without destroying it once they establish the field. IIRC, that's another slight problem with the concept.

Or the sheer radiation hell it would unleash when the bubble collapsed upon reaching your destination.

What part of exotic matter do you not understand? Exotic matter will solve both of those problems.

I dunno how I feel about that. On the one hand it allows interstellar travel. On the other hand, it's hard enough for regular matter to get a job these days.


just convert it into erotic matter, then it will have no problem getting a job on the street corner.
 
2012-09-17 02:32:24 PM  

GAT_00: Jubeebee: This ring, potentially made of exotic matter, would cause space-time to warp around the starship, creating a region of contracted space in front of it and expanded space behind.

While it's nice that they've adjusted the Alcubierre equations so maintaining the warp field doesn't require more energy than exists in the known universe, it seems that it still relies on materials that don't actually exist.

I wonder if they've figured out how to stop the craft without destroying it once they establish the field. IIRC, that's another slight problem with the concept.

Or the sheer radiation hell it would unleash when the bubble collapsed upon reaching your destination.


Yeah, Planets free of life for colonization. Win WIN!
 
2012-09-17 02:32:51 PM  
"White and his colleagues have begun experimenting with a mini version of the warp drive in their laboratory."

Nothing can possibly go wrong with initiating a warp drive on the planet that you're living on.

/bets on where we'll end up?
 
2012-09-17 02:33:48 PM  
Headline reminds me of: 
i.imgur.com
 
2012-09-17 02:34:35 PM  
FTFA: "A concept for a real-life warp drive was suggested in 1994 by Mexican physicist Miguel Alcubierre"

Wut? I thought that was Dr Cochrane.
 
2012-09-17 02:34:49 PM  
From my dumbass layman's understanding of the Alcubierre drive there's a lot of "Wantum Mechanics" involved, but it's still neat that they were able to reduce *one* of the impossibles to a more manageable size.

I do like the way that they went from "the mass energy of Jupiter" to "the mass energy of Voyager..."

Lessee... E=mc^2 where m is ~ 1,000,000 grams, carry the two... Gee! That's only a few times more than all the power produced by the human race ever...
 
2012-09-17 02:35:53 PM  

FesterLDS: Headline reminds me of: 
[i.imgur.com image 704x376]


I watched that last night.
 
2012-09-17 02:36:47 PM  

WelldeadLink: "White and his colleagues have begun experimenting with a mini version of the warp drive in their laboratory."

Nothing can possibly go wrong with initiating a warp drive on the planet that you're living on.

/bets on where we'll end up?


Probably just hell spawn.

take148.com
 
2012-09-17 02:37:51 PM  

Saiga410: GAT_00: Jubeebee: This ring, potentially made of exotic matter, would cause space-time to warp around the starship, creating a region of contracted space in front of it and expanded space behind.

While it's nice that they've adjusted the Alcubierre equations so maintaining the warp field doesn't require more energy than exists in the known universe, it seems that it still relies on materials that don't actually exist.

I wonder if they've figured out how to stop the craft without destroying it once they establish the field. IIRC, that's another slight problem with the concept.

Or the sheer radiation hell it would unleash when the bubble collapsed upon reaching your destination.

What part of exotic matter do you not understand? Exotic matter will solve both of those problems.


Exotic matter? Discussion of warp drives to facilitate interstellar travel?

distilleryimage5.s3.amazonaws.com

Clearly
 
2012-09-17 02:37:54 PM  
i3.photobucket.com
 
2012-09-17 02:38:38 PM  
 
2012-09-17 02:40:29 PM  

halB: GAT_00: Jubeebee: This ring, potentially made of exotic matter, would cause space-time to warp around the starship, creating a region of contracted space in front of it and expanded space behind.

While it's nice that they've adjusted the Alcubierre equations so maintaining the warp field doesn't require more energy than exists in the known universe, it seems that it still relies on materials that don't actually exist.

I wonder if they've figured out how to stop the craft without destroying it once they establish the field. IIRC, that's another slight problem with the concept.

Or the sheer radiation hell it would unleash when the bubble collapsed upon reaching your destination.

Man kind has endured hellish trips of unimaginable durations in the name of science, exploration, and raping indians. I imagine any future astronaut would be willing to wait the month or two it would take to slowly "taxi in" to the solar system they jumped to.


That "sheer radiation hell" would do a nice job of destroying the spacecraft itself, in addition to anything in the general vicinity.
 
2012-09-17 02:44:03 PM  

WelldeadLink: "White and his colleagues have begun experimenting with a mini version of the warp drive in their laboratory."

Nothing can possibly go wrong with initiating a warp drive on the planet that you're living on.

/bets on where we'll end up?


www.kent.net \

Agrees.
 
2012-09-17 02:45:59 PM  
Seems like they stayed up all weekend reading David Webber's books. Oh wait, that was me.
 
2012-09-17 02:46:20 PM  

adder1: WelldeadLink: "White and his colleagues have begun experimenting with a mini version of the warp drive in their laboratory."

Nothing can possibly go wrong with initiating a warp drive on the planet that you're living on.

/bets on where we'll end up?

[www.kent.net image 364x474] \

Agrees.


it's only a problem if you live on a particular pacific island
 
2012-09-17 02:47:08 PM  

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: "THROW THE F*CKING SPACE SHIP ALREADY ROTHLISBERGER!"


RAPISTS IN SPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACE!
 
2012-09-17 02:51:30 PM  
So the ring just needs to be made of unobtainium.
 
2012-09-17 02:51:37 PM  

FesterLDS: Headline reminds me of: 
[i.imgur.com image 704x376]


Aww, I wanted to be the one to make that reference.
 
2012-09-17 02:53:01 PM  
What if, like...the entire UNIVERSE is just a football-shaped spaceship in some cosmic giants' Superbowl, man?

/pass the Funyons
//Adventure Time's on...
 
2012-09-17 02:54:13 PM  

WelldeadLink: "White and his colleagues have begun experimenting with a mini version of the warp drive in their laboratory."

Nothing can possibly go wrong with initiating a warp drive on the planet that you're living on.

/bets on where we'll end up?


*shrug* wasnt something similar said about the first nuclear bomb? IIRC they were not sure that the reaction would ever stop once started. 

/or was that only for the first fusion bomb
 
2012-09-17 02:57:07 PM  
They'll know they're on the right track when Vulcans show up....
 
ecl
2012-09-17 02:58:09 PM  

Empty Matchbook: What if, like...the entire UNIVERSE is just a football-shaped spaceship in some cosmic giants' Superbowl, man?

/pass the Funyons
//Adventure Time's on...


Yayuh
 
2012-09-17 03:00:26 PM  

xsive: WelldeadLink: "White and his colleagues have begun experimenting with a mini version of the warp drive in their laboratory."

Nothing can possibly go wrong with initiating a warp drive on the planet that you're living on.

/bets on where we'll end up?

*shrug* wasnt something similar said about the first nuclear bomb? IIRC they were not sure that the reaction would ever stop once started. 

/or was that only for the first fusion bomb


Or the Cern

/there was supposedly a bet going on among the scientest at the Trinity test on a runaway event.
 
2012-09-17 03:05:56 PM  

Saiga410: /there was supposedly a bet going on among the scientest at the Trinity test on a runaway event.


Which is sort of silly. There's only one way to bet.
 
2012-09-17 03:06:22 PM  
We'll get there eventually. It may not be on Roddenberry's timetable, but humans are clever apes.

/And a big hell-o to all forms intelligent life out there.
//And for all you others, the secret is to bang the rocks together, guys.
 
2012-09-17 03:10:07 PM  
"We're trying to see if we can generate a very tiny instance of this in a tabletop experiment, to try to perturb space-time by one part in 10 million," White said.

Isnt that still rather a lot for a tabletop experiment?
 
2012-09-17 03:11:11 PM  

imashark: We'll get there eventually. It may not be on Roddenberry's timetable, but humans are clever apes.

/And a big hell-o to all forms intelligent life out there.
//And for all you others, the secret is to bang the rocks together, guys.


You sound very hip, do you have trouble seeing over your pelvis?
 
2012-09-17 03:11:32 PM  

imashark: We'll get there eventually. It may not be on Roddenberry's timetable, but humans are clever apes.

/And a big hell-o to all forms intelligent life out there.
//And for all you others, the secret is to bang the rocks together, guys.


At this rate, it'll before not after his time table. We've gone from nuh uh a couple of years ago, to maybe to probably. That's scary fast in terms of science.
 
2012-09-17 03:11:33 PM  
Take that Star Wars!
 
2012-09-17 03:14:11 PM  

imashark: We'll get there eventually. It may not be on Roddenberry's timetable, but humans are clever apes.

/And a big hell-o to all forms intelligent life out there.
//And for all you others, the secret is to bang the rocks together, guys.


Well that explains it! 

img.ibtimes.com
 
2012-09-17 03:14:32 PM  
Sti'las subby, Sti'las.
 
2012-09-17 03:15:26 PM  

imashark: //And for all you others, the secret is to bang the rocks together, guys.


Oh, don't forget to mention the pointy sticks. Banging the rocks together won't get you very far if you don't have the pointy sticks.
 
2012-09-17 03:15:29 PM  
Wormholes biatches !

Mother Farking Wormholes.

\now you just need to find a way to stabilize them and be able to pass through them without death.
\\then maybe figure out how to steer them
\\\but Mother Farking Worm holes!!!
 
2012-09-17 03:16:11 PM  

loonatic112358: GAT_00: Or the sheer radiation hell it would unleash when the bubble collapsed upon reaching your destination.

That's only a problem for those folks in the way


So.... what they've got is a potential WMD, right?

It should be fully operational in 5-10 years.
 
2012-09-17 03:16:50 PM  

dready zim: "We're trying to see if we can generate a very tiny instance of this in a tabletop experiment, to try to perturb space-time by one part in 10 million," White said.

Isnt that still rather a lot for a tabletop experiment?


And how does the matter in the drive interact with matter in its path? Would be quite a tabletop experiment if it works and the lab detonates in a multi-megaton explosion because e=mc^2 suddenly turns into e=m(10c)^2
 
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