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2012-09-17 11:18:33 PM

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BOOOOOO!!!
 
2012-09-17 11:29:07 PM

EatTheWorld: [imageshack.us image 575x779]


Walter, what's a vaginia...?
 
2012-09-17 11:33:24 PM

whidbey: ArcadianRefugee: whidbey: incite

"Go kill an American!" --inciting violence

"Muslims are a bunch of sandy-vagina'd pedophile worshippers." --a derogatory statement of fact or opinion, NOT an incitation of violence no matter how much sand some people may have in their vaginas regarding their pedophile prophet

Seriously, the fact that you continue to insist the two are equatable marks you as an idiot or a persistent troll.

Not either, but again it's obvious that no one in here has the least bit of understanding of what the consequences of that movie were. Including you.


Whid's dude, your comments come up in 'generally smart comment' green, but you are seriously jumping the shark here. to the point that dumb fark 'comments in grey' brigade is actually appearing more intelligent by comparison. That is not good.

You have no ethical or legal leg to stand on here.

None. Zip. Zero.

From a legal standpoint, it's not even close. Saying something you think, hell, know, is going to piss someone off is not anywhere near the same thing as urging people to commit immediate acts of violence. The fact you would think this should be anywhere near a court is farked up.

If you want to go the route of saying 'we' (americans, humans in general, whomever) should roundly call this guy out as an arsehole, and not patronize his product,fine. The answer to bad speech is more speech, not silence. And you simply cannot make the standard for acceptable speech the lowest common denominator possible reactions from others.

That thinking provides what the law would call a "perverse incentive". Ie, anybody who wants to shut down any speech just has to get violent and boom, your formulation of resposibility means the author should be put in jail.

And you can't tailor US law to accommodate foreign sensibilities. French & German law prohibit Nazi garb and speech, UK has notoriously plaintiff friendly defamation laws, (and these are countries relatively close to our culture), you wanna start bowing to the whims of every nutbag country that has fundie assholes that maight riot b/c we 'allow' our women to wear bikinis, or artists to draw Mohammed, whatever other cave man shiat they think is a legit reason to kill?

You don't want that. Really. You don't.
 
2012-09-17 11:58:42 PM
You know what really offends the Prophet?

Day-glo football uniforms.
 
2012-09-18 12:00:12 AM
whidbey: skullkrusher: Do you have the "right" to incite violence with your words or media?

No, you don't. However, to suggest that we limit freedom of expression because of how some savages will react is downright farking unAmerican.

Again, how far does that "freedom of expression" go? I can't cry "fire" in a public theater.

"The Innocence of Muslims" is doing exactly that.


Oh geez, you really believe that don't you? Allah damnit
 
2012-09-18 12:11:15 AM
I just watched the video. It's mildly amusing. Sort of the way a bad Mel Brooks movie still draws titters.

I dont see how anyone could be offended by this. And the idea that it's creator should be punished is absurd.
 
2012-09-18 12:31:19 AM
And whidbey proves once again that he is just some retarded smarmy troll.
 
2012-09-18 01:02:45 AM
Outrage? I thought this was the daily outrage from Michelle Malkin.

I am disappoint.
 
2012-09-18 01:09:56 AM

arobb00: I_C_Weener: [i586.photobucket.com image 588x535]

What in the blue hell is that on the far left? man? Woman? Bieber???


Perez Hilton
 
2012-09-18 01:11:09 AM

Betep: AngryWhiteMale: hinten: Angry, in and at their pants.

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I want that shirt! I'll take the blonde as well.

http://www.landoverbaptist.org/

You might like some of the women folk there too.


I looked through some of the links on that site, and they make the rioting middle east look sane and rational.
 
2012-09-18 01:13:08 AM
Absolutely a bookmark.
 
2012-09-18 01:29:15 AM

thomps: Timmy the Tumor: I think we should send a sh*tload of beard trimmers over there as humanitarian aid. Maybe if all of these guys' faces didn't look like nutsacks, they would be in a better mood.

you should take better care of your nutsack if it looks like a muslim dude's bearded face.


That there's funny, and I don't care who ya are.

6,471 interweb points for you
 
2012-09-18 01:46:04 AM

whidbey: Nabb1: whidbey: The magazine covers are kind of funny, the "conservative humor" in here is somewhat offensive, but really, the unacceptable violence from the Muslim community does not get the sh*thead who made the movie off the hook.

Sorry if that makes a few of you mad.

Nah, not mad. I just feel sorry for your fear.

No fear here. Just rightly pissed that bigotry and hatred get a free pass under the monicker of "free speech."


Just what would it take for you to come to the realization that "some guy made a movie, I need to kill somebody" is a non-sequitur?
 
2012-09-18 02:07:21 AM

hinten: skullkrusher: hinten: whidbey: I_C_Weener: Good job to those of you who showed up with your sense of humor.  Better luck next time to those that left their's in the politics tab.

Because we're supposed to laugh and make captions for the "hijinks" of people exercising legitimate grievances at offensive material produced from this country. They're the ones we should be ridiculing. Got it.

I don't remember you being such an ass. What happened?

you took a break from Fark and forgot some stuff about people?

I refuse to use Favorite with notes because I find it hard to believe that you can capture someone with a one-liner. Of course I am wrong. Fark is the playground of one dimensional characters.


Says you, Mr. Nanny-Nanny Boo-Boo
 
2012-09-18 02:24:47 AM

violentsalvation: whidbey: Nabb1: whidbey: Yeah actually there is. You should look up the legal definition of "obscene."

Oh, and what is the legal definition of "obscene" and how does this particular film fit it?

The Miller Test states one of the conditions be that a work be "utterly without redeeming social value."

Every one of your posts in this thread meet that definition.


Oouch. That's gonna leave a mark
 
2012-09-18 02:26:36 AM
This thread, with the shoops and the comments, easily ranks in the top 10, with I'm so scared, oil hits the anus, hot cocoa sampler box, Miss Georgia contestants, lipstick on kitty's ass, etc.
 
2012-09-18 02:28:45 AM

WTF Indeed: Newsweak should just be renamed "The Niall Ferguson Looks Down At You Unwashed Masses Wogs" Weekly.


FTFY
 
2012-09-18 03:49:50 AM

Serious Post on Serious Thread: Whid's dude, your comments come up in 'generally smart comment' green, but you are seriously jumping the shark here. to the point that dumb fark 'comments in grey' brigade is actually appearing more intelligent by comparison. That is not good.


OMG I'm farking quaking in my boots.

From a legal standpoint, it's not even close. Saying something you think, hell, know, is going to piss someone off is not anywhere near the same thing as urging people to commit immediate acts of violence. The fact you would think this should be anywhere near a court is farked up.

Your opinion.


That thinking provides what the law would call a "perverse incentive". Ie, anybody who wants to shut down any speech just has to get violent and boom, your formulation of resposibility means the author should be put in jail.


I said nothing of the kind. Reread my posts if you have any questions about my intention.

you wanna start bowing to the whims of every nutbag country that has fundie assholes that maight riot b/c we 'allow' our women to wear bikinis, or artists to draw Mohammed, whatever other cave man shiat they think is a legit reason to kill?

No, it looks like I "wanna start bowing" to the whims of Americans who want to protect the kind of bigotry presented in the film. At least if I want to fit in around here.

You aren't going to bully me, funny sounding alt. ;-p
 
2012-09-18 03:53:35 AM
When it comes to over-reacting, it's a bit rich that Americans are getting their panties wadded at muslims.

You twats invaded two nations on false pretexts and are still there a decade on, countless thousands dead.

For what?

Maybe you should have rioted in the streets and got it out of your system rather than nodded sagely at blurry photos of baby food factories before invading a nation that had sweet FA to do with the issue that had you all upset.

Because you know that's kind of why these people are pissed at you. The religious aspect is significant but equally important is the fact that your nation demonstrates utter contempt towards muslims by invading muslim nations under the most pathetic of pretexts.

But hey, you've killed exponentially more of them than they have of you so I guess that validates your moral high ground, right?
 
2012-09-18 05:20:17 AM
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2012-09-18 09:06:27 AM
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2012-09-18 09:33:30 AM
Thread has me laughing so hard, need to go torch a few buildings.
 
2012-09-18 11:12:21 AM

cegorach: You twats invaded two nations on false pretexts and are still there a decade on, countless thousands dead.



Many here would agree with you about at least one nation, I certainly would. Though the occupation in Afghanistan wasn't under false pretexts, so I'll call you on that one. The Iraq war was very unpopular here after it became clear there were no WMD in Iraq. With Bush having historically low approval ratings. And now that Obama has control of predator drones he's like a kid who got a bb gun for Christmas. No bird in the neighborhood is safe, including American citizens. Though, like when Bush was president, I can only assume he has access to better information than I do.

So while I think you are only half-right, it is understandable that you think of all Americans as "twats". Just like most people consider all Germans to be twats for what their government did in WW2, or all Japanese, or all Chinese, or all Russians, or all Middle Easterners for constantly warring with their neighbors, etc. So I won't try to talk you down from your own self-perceived moral superiority.

Was the Iraq invasion a gross overreaction to bad intelligence, yes. Do I think tracking down Bin Laden in reaction to 3000 dead here was over reaction, no. Is attacking embassies and killing people over a movie or cartoon an overreaction, yes. I don't feel conflicted about those three answers.

The muslim world and the west have fundamentally deeply different concepts of civil rights. Americans have shown in the past we are willing to go to war with even each other over civil rights. Today as globalization increases and information travels virtually instantaneously, feelings are easier to hurt than ever before. If neither side wants to budge in what they consider "right", then conflict is inevitable. And when conflict happens between a small technologically stunted tribal people on one side, and the single largest most powerful industrial and military power in all recorded history on the other, then the outcome seems inevitable. I'm not saying that outcome is either right or wrong. It's just not that surprising or even unexpected.
 
2012-09-18 01:10:49 PM

whidbey: Serious Post on Serious Thread: Whid's dude, your comments come up in 'generally smart comment' green, but you are seriously jumping the shark here. to the point that dumb fark 'comments in grey' brigade is actually appearing more intelligent by comparison. That is not good.

OMG I'm farking quaking in my boots.

From a legal standpoint, it's not even close. Saying something you think, hell, know, is going to piss someone off is not anywhere near the same thing as urging people to commit immediate acts of violence. The fact you would think this should be anywhere near a court is farked up.

Your opinion.


That thinking provides what the law would call a "perverse incentive". Ie, anybody who wants to shut down any speech just has to get violent and boom, your formulation of resposibility means the author should be put in jail.

I said nothing of the kind. Reread my posts if you have any questions about my intention.

you wanna start bowing to the whims of every nutbag country that has fundie assholes that maight riot b/c we 'allow' our women to wear bikinis, or artists to draw Mohammed, whatever other cave man shiat they think is a legit reason to kill?

No, it looks like I "wanna start bowing" to the whims of Americans who want to protect the kind of bigotry presented in the film. At least if I want to fit in around here.

You aren't going to bully me, funny sounding alt. ;-p


OK,

1) It's not just "my opinion", it's the opinion of the Constitution as interpreted through 225 years of jurisprudence.

2) Bullying, really? That, in my opinion is some weak sauce.

3) Finally, the only issue that matters here:

You are having a severe disconnect between defending someones right to say something and the very different idea of actually defending what it actually said.

Nobody is defending this movie in and of itself, that woould be moronic (well, ok, this is fark, so there probabaly are a few trolls defending the message itself. but that's not the point). People are defending the right to make a movie, even if you disagree with it as bigoted garbage.

This guy sums it up well:
"I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it."
-Voltaire
 
2012-09-18 01:21:09 PM
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leave Whidbey alone!!!
 
2012-09-18 01:48:15 PM
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2012-09-18 02:30:31 PM
This thread gets me all laughy
 
2012-09-18 04:34:34 PM
aw dang.
 
2012-09-18 05:42:04 PM

colon_pow: [xspblog.com image 448x336]

leave Whidbey alone!!!


LOL
 
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