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2012-09-17 04:06:39 PM  
Dumbass contractors forgot to install shields on a small exhaust port!
1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-09-17 04:06:59 PM  

Jekylman: mark12A: Meh, all the cool kids have a subscription to The Economist.

Foreign Policy, biatches!



Free minds, free markets monkeyFARMAZ!
 
2012-09-17 04:07:09 PM  

Corvus: beta_plus: Headso: That one guy is acting like someone just ran over his kid. Weird how social conservatives love to get all dramatic like that, everything is a huge outrage, stupid movies, arugula, cartoons, mustard...

American Social Conservatives and Islamic Fundamentalists Are Both Equally Bad, so let Libyans murder American Diplomats!

Who the hell says we should let Libyans murder American diplomats? Your making up crazy things people didn't say.


Yes, because I'm sure you would be saying "We need to be sensitive to American Social Conservatives feelings" if they even peacefully protested against a youtube video mocking Christianity.

/you're not even trying anymore to pretend that you believe in free speech for all
//just the people who help you win elections
 
2012-09-17 04:07:14 PM  

Headso: whidbey: the unacceptable violence from the Muslim community does not get the sh*thead who made the movie off the hook.

What hook is he on other than being afraid of the unacceptable violence?


Pretty sure it's obvious that he not only needs to apologize publicly, but he must also make some kind of atonement involving the raising or donating of millions of dollars either from the proceeds of the movie or his own personal savings to Muslim causes, and then he would also have perform some kind of high-profile community service event in addition to it.
 
2012-09-17 04:07:24 PM  
sweetmelissa31:

So much win
 
2012-09-17 04:07:44 PM  
This thread has it all, photoshop, captions (ow my balls), muslim rage. I hope it goes all night.
 
2012-09-17 04:08:26 PM  

whidbey: Headso: whidbey: the unacceptable violence from the Muslim community does not get the sh*thead who made the movie off the hook.

What hook is he on other than being afraid of the unacceptable violence?

Pretty sure it's obvious that he not only needs to apologize publicly, but he must also make some kind of atonement involving the raising or donating of millions of dollars either from the proceeds of the movie or his own personal savings to Muslim causes, and then he would also have perform some kind of high-profile community service event in addition to it.


Man, you were trolling and I bit on it. For shame.
 
2012-09-17 04:08:37 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2012-09-17 04:09:42 PM  

Virtual Pariah: More like gallows humor. We laugh so we don't cry..


That should be one of the Fark hash-tags that have now
 
2012-09-17 04:10:41 PM  

Nabb1: whidbey: The magazine covers are kind of funny, the "conservative humor" in here is somewhat offensive, but really, the unacceptable violence from the Muslim community does not get the sh*thead who made the movie off the hook.

Sorry if that makes a few of you mad.

Nah, not mad. I just feel sorry for your fear.


No fear here. Just rightly pissed that bigotry and hatred get a free pass under the monicker of "free speech."
 
2012-09-17 04:11:00 PM  

whidbey: Pretty sure it's obvious that he not only needs to apologize publicly


Pretty sure the movie trailer was intended to be inflammatory, I don't think the people who made it would think they have to apologize considering offending people was the goal of the whole thing...
 
2012-09-17 04:11:47 PM  
i586.photobucket.com
 
2012-09-17 04:11:57 PM  

Nabb1: whidbey: Headso: whidbey: the unacceptable violence from the Muslim community does not get the sh*thead who made the movie off the hook.

What hook is he on other than being afraid of the unacceptable violence?

Pretty sure it's obvious that he not only needs to apologize publicly, but he must also make some kind of atonement involving the raising or donating of millions of dollars either from the proceeds of the movie or his own personal savings to Muslim causes, and then he would also have perform some kind of high-profile community service event in addition to it.

Man, you were trolling and I bit on it. For shame.


Snagged by the ole reverse-Skookum, eh? It happens.
 
2012-09-17 04:11:59 PM  

Nabb1: whidbey: Headso: whidbey: the unacceptable violence from the Muslim community does not get the sh*thead who made the movie off the hook.

What hook is he on other than being afraid of the unacceptable violence?

Pretty sure it's obvious that he not only needs to apologize publicly, but he must also make some kind of atonement involving the raising or donating of millions of dollars either from the proceeds of the movie or his own personal savings to Muslim causes, and then he would also have perform some kind of high-profile community service event in addition to it.

Man, you were trolling and I bit on it. For shame.


Why is that a troll? That's exactly what he should be made to do. Bonus: with some kind of judicial order backing it up.
 
2012-09-17 04:12:00 PM  
Something isn't sitting right with me. The internet is full of anti-muslim stuff. I don't really need to go looking for it, I just know that it's there. Just a google search away. This was a pissant effort, doomed to the internet. How did they grok on this? Why didn't these riots happen on any other day when there was other (likely better and more acceptable to the west) material out there?
 
2012-09-17 04:13:07 PM  

Headso: whidbey: Pretty sure it's obvious that he not only needs to apologize publicly

Pretty sure the movie trailer was intended to be inflammatory, I don't think the people who made it would think they have to apologize considering offending people was the goal of the whole thing...


Well, it sounds like you're willing to let him off the hook, then. I don't think he should be.
 
2012-09-17 04:13:22 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2012-09-17 04:13:45 PM  

dcigary: When criticized, Newsweek has argued that it is trying to start conversations and run sharp-elbowed opinion pieces by people from across the political spectrum.

Wow. That's the textbook definition of "trolling"....


I need to brew another pot of coffee. I read that as "sharp-kneed opinion pieces" and wondered how the hell Studman got a job writing for Newsweek and how anyone could tell 'cause Muslim chicks wear burquas anyway.

/it's way too late to be feeling this tired
//or way too early
 
2012-09-17 04:15:48 PM  

whidbey: Nabb1: whidbey: The magazine covers are kind of funny, the "conservative humor" in here is somewhat offensive, but really, the unacceptable violence from the Muslim community does not get the sh*thead who made the movie off the hook.

Sorry if that makes a few of you mad.

Nah, not mad. I just feel sorry for your fear.

No fear here. Just rightly pissed that bigotry and hatred get a free pass under the monicker of "free speech."


Then you don't understand free speech.

The stupid film trailer is EXACTLY the sort of thing that free speech is designed to protect.

Popular or uncontroversial speech doesn't need protection. Our freedom of speech protections were designed to safeguard the kinds of speech that really rub people the wrong way.
 
2012-09-17 04:15:55 PM  

whidbey: Headso: whidbey: Pretty sure it's obvious that he not only needs to apologize publicly

Pretty sure the movie trailer was intended to be inflammatory, I don't think the people who made it would think they have to apologize considering offending people was the goal of the whole thing...

Well, it sounds like you're willing to let him off the hook, then. I don't think he should be.


It'd be kinda hypocritical if I suddenly started being upset about people taking a shiat on social conservatives and their backward ways.
 
2012-09-17 04:16:17 PM  

gilgigamesh: It happens.


Come on...I didn't say anything about putting Jones in an internment camp.

So. You think everyone should just "get over" something as needlessly socially inflammatory as that movie? What value do you see in the film that should circumvent any concerns about it?
 
2012-09-17 04:16:46 PM  
Obviously the Libyans who were holding up signs saying "We would like show that as Libyans we do not support on the actions committed by these criminals. USA, we are sorry and we will say it one thousand times over. Our apologies will never be enough, but the Libyan people will always be grateful for you since you were the first to stand by us in our fight for freedom and hopefully you will continue supporting us." wouldn't sell much.
 
2012-09-17 04:17:37 PM  

fireclown: This was a pissant effort, doomed to the internet. How did they grok on this? Why didn't these riots happen on any other day when there was other (likely better and more acceptable to the west) material out there?


1) The actual attacks was not tied to the movie--they were Al-Qaeda efforts.

2) The protests started up with asshole right-wing opinion show jackholes in Eqypt who like to stir shiat up to create media power bases for themselves. The most important being a jackhole by the name of Khaled Abdallah. Al-Jazeera's got stuff on him. He's an Islamist 'Michael Savage' type.
 
2012-09-17 04:18:03 PM  

I'll give this a go:


i1099.photobucket.com

 
2012-09-17 04:18:06 PM  
s17.postimage.org
 
2012-09-17 04:19:17 PM  

Headso: whidbey: Headso: whidbey: Pretty sure it's obvious that he not only needs to apologize publicly

Pretty sure the movie trailer was intended to be inflammatory, I don't think the people who made it would think they have to apologize considering offending people was the goal of the whole thing...

Well, it sounds like you're willing to let him off the hook, then. I don't think he should be.

It'd be kinda hypocritical if I suddenly started being upset about people taking a shiat on social conservatives and their backward ways.


Yeah but the movie and its attempts to offend are very much from a very ignorant right-wing perspective. To say they "aren't helping" isn't even in the same ballpark.
 
2012-09-17 04:19:18 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: Read the #MuslimRage hashtag that Newsweek stupidly tried to promote. So funny.


"Lose your kid in airport. Can't yell for him because his name is Jihad. #MuslimRage"
"Having the best hair day. Nobody even knows. #MuslimRage"
"The waiter didn't tell me it was pork. So mad I dropped my glass of wine. #MuslimRage"
"Ramadan in Iceland when days last 23 hours. #MuslimRage"
"My camel refuses to wear a seatbelt. #MuslimRage"

I laughed and laughed.
 
2012-09-17 04:19:40 PM  

whidbey:
So. You think everyone should just "get over" something as needlessly socially inflammatory as that movie? What value do you see in the film that should circumvent any concerns about it?


Yes.
I'm pretty sure there is no law requiring a private venture have redeeming value.
 
2012-09-17 04:19:46 PM  

beta_plus: Corvus: beta_plus: Headso: That one guy is acting like someone just ran over his kid. Weird how social conservatives love to get all dramatic like that, everything is a huge outrage, stupid movies, arugula, cartoons, mustard...

American Social Conservatives and Islamic Fundamentalists Are Both Equally Bad, so let Libyans murder American Diplomats!

Who the hell says we should let Libyans murder American diplomats? Your making up crazy things people didn't say.

Yes, because I'm sure you would be saying "We need to be sensitive to American Social Conservatives feelings" if they even peacefully protested against a youtube video mocking Christianity.

/you're not even trying anymore to pretend that you believe in free speech for all
//just the people who help you win elections


Often I have said on Fark people shouldn't paint all Christians for the stupidity of the right wing social Christians.


Where have I said anything about limiting free speech here?



Dude the lefties here a mocking the Muslims who are protesting now (and Newsweek too) if you got your head out of you ass long enough you'd realize that.

You should put up or shut up instead of making up arguments no one even made.

It's stupid to pain an entire group for what a small group of them does, Muslim, Christian, Atheists or whomever. Just because you're an idiot, doesn't make it ok to pretend everyone else is a superficial idiot like you.
 
2012-09-17 04:20:22 PM  

eraser8: whidbey: Nabb1: whidbey: The magazine covers are kind of funny, the "conservative humor" in here is somewhat offensive, but really, the unacceptable violence from the Muslim community does not get the sh*thead who made the movie off the hook.

Sorry if that makes a few of you mad.

Nah, not mad. I just feel sorry for your fear.

No fear here. Just rightly pissed that bigotry and hatred get a free pass under the monicker of "free speech."

Then you don't understand free speech.

The stupid film trailer is EXACTLY the sort of thing that free speech is designed to protect.

Popular or uncontroversial speech doesn't need protection. Our freedom of speech protections were designed to safeguard the kinds of speech that really rub people the wrong way.



Here, here.  And I thought we'd never agree again.
 
Protection from government or government coerced chilling effects.  But not protection from the consequences of voicing a stupid opinion.
 
Maybe Whidbey thinks that Salman Rushdie needs to apologize too.  Or Bill Maher.  Or any number of people regardless of the quality of their speech simply because it might upset someone.
 
2012-09-17 04:21:06 PM  

fireclown: Something isn't sitting right with me. The internet is full of anti-muslim stuff. I don't really need to go looking for it, I just know that it's there. Just a google search away. This was a pissant effort, doomed to the internet. How did they grok on this? Why didn't these riots happen on any other day when there was other (likely better and more acceptable to the west) material out there?


If memory serves correct, it was mostly ignored, until someone translated it into Arabic and sent it to news companies in the middle east (Egypt I think).

A google search could probably flesh that out a bit, but that is what I remember reading.
 
2012-09-17 04:21:28 PM  
Some Farkers took their awesome pills today. You've made my Monday. Thank you!

The "this is an outrage" guy has the grossest teeth i've ever had the misfortune to see. What is wrong with them teeths?!
 
2012-09-17 04:21:31 PM  

beta_plus: /you're not even trying anymore to pretend that you believe in free speech for all


Please how did I do this exactly? Where have I talked about removing people's free speech?

This should be funny watching you change the subject, like you guys always do when asked to back up your made up shiat.
 
2012-09-17 04:21:37 PM  

walkerhound: I'll give this a go:


[i1099.photobucket.com image 575x779]


+1.
 
2012-09-17 04:21:37 PM  
i48.tinypic.com
 
2012-09-17 04:22:05 PM  
Once you know the real story of the guy on the right in that picture, he's much more of a sympathetic character.

You see, he's the maintenance guy for a local building. And of course they're trying to keep costs low, so they don't pay him as much as he's worth and they don't give him any budget at all to try to keep everything up. But it's a tough economy and he's just glad to have a job at all so he can feed his family. Anyway, they woke him up last night a little before 2 in the morning saying the basement is flooding. And instead of telling them that of course it's flooding, you haven't let me fix the damned pipes even though I've been warning you for the last two years, he rushes over to deal with it. So he fixes the pipes (and you know that the hardware shop owner was a real cheerful guy at 4 in the morning!) and manages to get it all cleaned up by around noon. So after ten hours ankle deep in water that jerk on the second floor complains that the paint is looking a little worn in the stairwell. And he bites back the angry response he wants to give because if he can just touch up the paint real quick, then he's leaving for the day.

So now, after all that, he gets to go back home and he walks out planning the rest of the day. He'll be able to rest, maybe take a short nap. And his wife's cousin Ahmed, who always wants to talk about something he's angry about (lately it's some internet video), has said he won't be staying with them the next couple days, so that's great news. And his wife told him that as a "thank you" for his patience with Ahmed she's going to make him a special dinner. He's hoping it's her meatloaf. You know, she makes a delicious meatloaf. With some mashed potatoes on the side, it's a life-changing experience. Okay, the potatoes aren't the best, but her gravy makes up for it. Even the prophet probably didn't get gravy that good. And then, after he's gotten a nap and a good dinner, maybe they can send the kids over the neighbor's house to play so he and his wife can have some alone time. Even after almost 14 years of marriage, she's still got an incredible body. It's been too long since they were able...

And then the sound of gunfire makes him look around. Without meaning too, he's walked out into the middle of some crowd shouting about something or the other. And now some westerner with a khaki vest and a camera is sticking the camera in his face.

And that's how Newsweek ended up with that picture.
 
2012-09-17 04:22:34 PM  

whidbey: Yeah but the movie and its attempts to offend are very much from a very ignorant right-wing perspective. To say they "aren't helping" isn't even in the same ballpark.


So what? Do you want to ban "Mein Kampf" from bookshelves? "The Communist Manifesto"? Really? A judicial order making this guy apologize and make restitution? Are you aware there is *zero* chance such an order would ever survive an appeal?
 
2012-09-17 04:22:48 PM  

whidbey: So. You think everyone should just "get over" something as needlessly socially inflammatory as that movie? What value do you see in the film that should circumvent any concerns about it?


Yes. I think exactly that. People say stuff that offends me everyday. I know full well that within 200 miles of where I sit there is a neo-nazi site putting up videos explaining why blacks and jews are inferior beings. Code Pink still survives, Ward Churchill is still out there somewhere, and God only knows what is going on in San Francisco or Hattisburg MS. Someone has a youtube declaring Jihad on Swedes. Horrible, dreadful, offensive stuff.

And I'm not burning a Got-damn thing. I rail about it to my GF and my cat. I type snarky screeds into comment threads. Because that's how you handle this stuff. That video has no real value, other than the weird spectacle of gay porn guys doing low budget bible epics. That's not the point. Killing people over someones effing youtube video is the point.
 
2012-09-17 04:23:06 PM  

loki see loki do: whidbey:
So. You think everyone should just "get over" something as needlessly socially inflammatory as that movie? What value do you see in the film that should circumvent any concerns about it?

Yes.
I'm pretty sure there is no law requiring a private venture have redeeming value.


Yeah actually there is. You should look up the legal definition of "obscene."
 
2012-09-17 04:24:06 PM  

downstairs: Coco LaFemme: Basically this. My dad used to get a subscription to Newsweek, but stopped about 10 years ago, I think. It's steadily gone down hill, rapidly approaching the molten core of the earth.


It wasn't horrible 3-ish years ago, but it rapidly (like in one week) turned into People Magazine But Sorta About Politics And Stuff.  We cancelled.
 
Which sucks, because I like having a paper magazine with good but somewhat lighter political/national/world news content.  Everything has turned either to crap or is far to heavy and detailed for sitting on the toilet quick reading.


That was the merger with The Daily Beast you detected. It's barely been any better than a tabloid since then.
 
2012-09-17 04:24:31 PM  
hiding behind some imaginary freedom of speech is pathetic.

if you cross the line, you will get hurt, that's how the real world works.
 
2012-09-17 04:24:42 PM  

kidsizedcoffin: fireclown: Something isn't sitting right with me. The internet is full of anti-muslim stuff. I don't really need to go looking for it, I just know that it's there. Just a google search away. This was a pissant effort, doomed to the internet. How did they grok on this? Why didn't these riots happen on any other day when there was other (likely better and more acceptable to the west) material out there?

If memory serves correct, it was mostly ignored, until someone translated it into Arabic and sent it to news companies in the middle east (Egypt I think).

A google search could probably flesh that out a bit, but that is what I remember reading.


Yeah basically. The Christian extremists doofus in the US got help from a extremist Muslim doofus there to make it popular to whip up a frenzy. Smart shiat head. They are using his anti-Muslim video to whip up even more extreme Islam.
 
2012-09-17 04:24:51 PM  

Somacandra: fireclown: This was a pissant effort, doomed to the internet. How did they grok on this? Why didn't these riots happen on any other day when there was other (likely better and more acceptable to the west) material out there?

1) The actual attacks was not tied to the movie--they were Al-Qaeda efforts.

2) The protests started up with asshole right-wing opinion show jackholes in Eqypt who like to stir shiat up to create media power bases for themselves. The most important being a jackhole by the name of Khaled Abdallah. Al-Jazeera's got stuff on him. He's an Islamist 'Michael Savage' type.


This is what really happened.
Multiplied by an islamic shiatload of two bit mullahs who rev the guys up every Friday night.
And a bunch of insecure 'leaders' of islamic countries too afraid to say anything otherwise to their overly rioty constituencies.
"The West' and the Great Satan USA are too valuable of scapegoats (along with Israel) to let slip away fromt hose selfsame jerks because the one thing that really brings 'em all together is a good common hatred.
 
2012-09-17 04:25:44 PM  

whidbey: Yeah actually there is. You should look up the legal definition of "obscene."


Oh, and what is the legal definition of "obscene" and how does this particular film fit it?
 
2012-09-17 04:25:51 PM  

fireclown: whidbey: So. You think everyone should just "get over" something as needlessly socially inflammatory as that movie? What value do you see in the film that should circumvent any concerns about it?

Yes. I think exactly that. People say stuff that offends me everyday. I know full well that within 200 miles of where I sit there is a neo-nazi site putting up videos explaining why blacks and jews are inferior beings. Code Pink still survives, Ward Churchill is still out there somewhere, and God only knows what is going on in San Francisco or Hattisburg MS. Someone has a youtube declaring Jihad on Swedes. Horrible, dreadful, offensive stuff.

And I'm not burning a Got-damn thing. I rail about it to my GF and my cat. I type snarky screeds into comment threads. Because that's how you handle this stuff. That video has no real value, other than the weird spectacle of gay porn guys doing low budget bible epics. That's not the point. Killing people over someones effing youtube video is the point.


You're talking about our country. Good luck telling people in other countries where they don't have free speech to "get over it."

And while the violence is unacceptable, we have the responsibility to deal with Jones here in the West. Saying it's OK free speech is bullshiat, considering that he used that free speech to incite violence.

Sounds very much like the "fire in a crowded theater" ruling.
 
2012-09-17 04:26:00 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2012-09-17 04:26:10 PM  

Nabb1: whidbey: Yeah but the movie and its attempts to offend are very much from a very ignorant right-wing perspective. To say they "aren't helping" isn't even in the same ballpark.

So what? Do you want to ban "Mein Kampf" from bookshelves? "The Communist Manifesto"? Really? A judicial order making this guy apologize and make restitution? Are you aware there is *zero* chance such an order would ever survive an appeal?


Actually, I think that's a great idea. He should be forced to donate 50% of all proceeds to Muslim support groups.
 
2012-09-17 04:26:42 PM  

Apos: Damn I love this thread.


I know! I'm sitting alone in a restaurant, cracking up laughing and getting those glances I occasionally get when I sit alone in a restaurant and read Fark.

And this is a bookmark.
 
2012-09-17 04:27:11 PM  
Angry, in and at their pants.

www.gunslot.com
 
2012-09-17 04:28:18 PM  

whidbey: loki see loki do: whidbey:
So. You think everyone should just "get over" something as needlessly socially inflammatory as that movie? What value do you see in the film that should circumvent any concerns about it?

Yes.
I'm pretty sure there is no law requiring a private venture have redeeming value.

Yeah actually there is. You should look up the legal definition of "obscene."


fark a duck, that old thing?
 
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