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2012-09-17 05:05:10 PM

Corvus: Do you have an article that isn't lying up and down? And not from a paper that is the Fox news of the UK?


The Guardian is now the Fox News of the UK? Holy shiat man
 
2012-09-17 05:06:58 PM
I've forwarded this entire thread to Aljazerra and what is purported to be an AQ-linked website.

Let's see what happens.
 
2012-09-17 05:08:07 PM
HOW DARE YOU SAY WE ARE ANGRY PEOPLE! WE KILL YOU!
 
2012-09-17 05:08:10 PM

Nabb1: Have you even seen the thing in its entirety? Is it a porn film? Because if not, the Miller test really is inapplicable. It appears that you're just calling something "obscene" because a bunch of people who freak right the f*ck out about just about anything on a regular basis freaked right the f*ck out about this (and, in all likelihood, this film is just a red herring for a coordinated, planned series of attacks and not a spontaneous bit of outrage). People post inflammatory comments in FARK religion threads all the damned time.


Look. the statement was made that "there's no law requiring a private venture have redeeming value."

I responded with an example of one. The basic principle applies to Jones' movie as well. Yes, it would take a court to settle it, but the case is there.

Again, not the issue.
 
2012-09-17 05:08:35 PM
This should've been a Photoshop contest.
 
2012-09-17 05:08:43 PM
i.qkme.me
 
2012-09-17 05:09:21 PM
Link

If this makes you angry, something was going to get to you sooner or later. The YouTube comments are comedy gold.
 
2012-09-17 05:10:31 PM
i237.photobucket.com
 
2012-09-17 05:10:52 PM

whidbey: Nabb1: Have you even seen the thing in its entirety? Is it a porn film? Because if not, the Miller test really is inapplicable. It appears that you're just calling something "obscene" because a bunch of people who freak right the f*ck out about just about anything on a regular basis freaked right the f*ck out about this (and, in all likelihood, this film is just a red herring for a coordinated, planned series of attacks and not a spontaneous bit of outrage). People post inflammatory comments in FARK religion threads all the damned time.

Look. the statement was made that "there's no law requiring a private venture have redeeming value."

I responded with an example of one. The basic principle applies to Jones' movie as well. Yes, it would take a court to settle it, but the case is there.

Again, not the issue.


What case? The Miller case has to do with sexually explicit material. Here, read this from NPR.
 
2012-09-17 05:11:20 PM
imageshack.us
 
2012-09-17 05:14:15 PM

Whole Wheat: Link

If this makes you angry, something was going to get to you sooner or later. The YouTube comments are comedy gold.


Wow. That is almost unwatchable. Not because it is offensive, but because it is just plain bad.
 
2012-09-17 05:14:18 PM

Nabb1: What case? The Miller case has to do with sexually explicit material. Here, read this from NPR.


All right, I guess you've decided to not actually discuss whether we have a right as a society to deal with the kind of malfeasance Jones unleashed with "the Innocence of Muslims."

At any rate, you've hardly grasped the point I made.
 
2012-09-17 05:14:23 PM
i35.photobucket.com
 
2012-09-17 05:16:10 PM

whidbey: Nabb1: What case? The Miller case has to do with sexually explicit material. Here, read this from NPR.

All right, I guess you've decided to not actually discuss whether we have a right as a society to deal with the kind of malfeasance Jones unleashed with "the Innocence of Muslims."

At any rate, you've hardly grasped the point I made.


didn't you say that there was a case to be made against him? Based on what then? Also, Jones is promoting the video NOW. The violence came before he got his stupid little hands in the mix
 
2012-09-17 05:17:12 PM

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MUSLIM RAGE! MUSLIM RAGE I KILL ANY INFIDEL FOLKS I LAY MY MOTHERFARKING EYES ON!


What's a Nubian?
 
2012-09-17 05:17:22 PM

I_C_Weener: Good job to those of you who showed up with your sense of humor.  Better luck next time to those that left their's in the politics tab.


Because we're supposed to laugh and make captions for the "hijinks" of people exercising legitimate grievances at offensive material produced from this country. They're the ones we should be ridiculing. Got it.
 
2012-09-17 05:18:36 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2012-09-17 05:18:43 PM

Tigger: give me doughnuts: Diogenes: Voiceofreason01: Ayaan Hirsi Ali, with all due respect to what she went through as a child, is kind of a biatch

sweetmelissa31: Ayaan Hirsi Ali: immigrated to the Netherlands, fought against immigration to the Netherlands for everyone else. Also lied about being a Dutch citizen to become member of parliament. F*ck her.

Double THIS.

Neither of those statements is correct. She argued to limit immigration from countries with Islamic governments, and when she was elected to Parliament, she had been granted Dutch citizenship. Her citizenship was stripped after it became known that she had made false statements in her asylum application.

So just to be clear

1) She wasn't just generally against immigration after she immigrated she was against immigration SPECIFICALLY from the types of place she had just immigrated from.

2) She didn't lie about her citizenship in order to be elected to parliament, she lied in order to get citizenship so she should be elected to parliament.

I will make the necessary edits to the reasons that she is total shiatbag. ie change a couple of prepositions, leaving her shiatbag rating unchanged at total farking shiatbag.


You are right. She should have told the truth on her asylum application so she could be deported back to Somalia to live with the family that had her vagina cut out. What a farking count. How dare she try to stop islamofascists from turning Holland from a free and tolerant country into another 3rd world shiat hole.
 
2012-09-17 05:20:17 PM
i47.tinypic.com
 
2012-09-17 05:20:31 PM
imageshack.us
 
2012-09-17 05:21:06 PM

Nabb1: Whole Wheat: Link

If this makes you angry, something was going to get to you sooner or later. The YouTube comments are comedy gold.

Wow. That is almost unwatchable. Not because it is offensive, but because it is just plain bad.


So is it "Manos: Hands of Fate" bad or "Twilight" bad?

/time to get the Rifftrax dudes in on this whole thing for epic hilarity
 
2012-09-17 05:21:44 PM

whidbey: I_C_Weener: Good job to those of you who showed up with your sense of humor.  Better luck next time to those that left their's in the politics tab.

Because we're supposed to laugh and make captions for the "hijinks" of people exercising legitimate grievances at offensive material produced from this country. They're the ones we should be ridiculing. Got it.


The only reason we shouldn't be ridiculing THOSE people is because it is so obvious and should go without saying.
I think you just hopped the line between that rational "what sort of moral responsibility do people who produce this sort of material have knowing the response it will likely provoke" and went straight to apologist for murder over a YouTube video
 
2012-09-17 05:22:16 PM

whidbey: I_C_Weener: Good job to those of you who showed up with your sense of humor.  Better luck next time to those that left their's in the politics tab.

Because we're supposed to laugh and make captions for the "hijinks" of people exercising legitimate grievances at offensive material produced from this country. They're the ones we should be ridiculing. Got it.


Yes, if you respond to a film that makes a statement about a religion by acting violent, rioting, murdering, then yes, you deserve ridicule. The filmmaker may deserve ridicule for a bad film, but the people acting like savages are far more in the wrong. And you said that this filmmaker should be forced to apologize and make restitution via court order. I've grasped your point, perhaps more so than you have grasped it. If you want to respond to this filmmaker's idiocy, you do so in a peaceful manner. You do not engage in violence and you do not have a court order him to pay restitution.
 
2012-09-17 05:22:16 PM

skullkrusher: whidbey: Nabb1: What case? The Miller case has to do with sexually explicit material. Here, read this from NPR.

All right, I guess you've decided to not actually discuss whether we have a right as a society to deal with the kind of malfeasance Jones unleashed with "the Innocence of Muslims."

At any rate, you've hardly grasped the point I made.

didn't you say that there was a case to be made against him? Based on what then? Also, Jones is promoting the video NOW. The violence came before he got his stupid little hands in the mix


I guess it's time to restate the obvious again:

Jones made the movie. It can be successfully argued that the movie, whether seen or not, was the catalyst behind the recent violence. Yes I know there were other factors.

We have a responsibility on this end, in our country and our society, to take this moviemaker Jones to task. The movie can be judged obscene based on previous court cases, and the "clear and present danger" clause can also be used.

Jones' free speech is not absolute if the offensive contents of his movie invokes violence against our way of life.
 
2012-09-17 05:22:22 PM

whidbey: legitimate


www.agileproductdesign.com
 
2012-09-17 05:23:16 PM
s16.postimage.org


/i am thankfully free to say and post that
//you are free to get really mad at me
///then I am free to make fun of you for getting mad
////you are not free to kill me
//oh, and lighten up, francis,
 
2012-09-17 05:23:48 PM

Nabb1: whidbey: I_C_Weener: Good job to those of you who showed up with your sense of humor.  Better luck next time to those that left their's in the politics tab.

Because we're supposed to laugh and make captions for the "hijinks" of people exercising legitimate grievances at offensive material produced from this country. They're the ones we should be ridiculing. Got it.

Yes, if you respond to a film that makes a statement about a religion by acting violent, rioting, murdering, then yes, you deserve ridicule. The filmmaker may deserve ridicule for a bad film, but the people acting like savages are far more in the wrong. And you said that this filmmaker should be forced to apologize and make restitution via court order. I've grasped your point, perhaps more so than you have grasped it. If you want to respond to this filmmaker's idiocy, you do so in a peaceful manner. You do not engage in violence and you do not have a court order him to pay restitution.


Whatever dude. Weener's shoops were in characteristically poor taste and that's why I love him. The least you can do is be honest.
 
2012-09-17 05:24:43 PM

busy chillin': [s16.postimage.org image 500x677]


/i am thankfully free to say and post that
//you are free to get really mad at me
///then I am free to make fun of you for getting mad
////you are not free to kill me
//oh, and lighten up, francis,


Nice to know you condone the right to incite violence.

Oh and that shop was uncalled for. I should report you.
 
2012-09-17 05:24:45 PM

whidbey: Because we're supposed to laugh and make captions for the "hijinks" of people exercising legitimate grievances at offensive material produced from this country.


i.imgur.com
 
2012-09-17 05:24:55 PM

L33t Squirrel: Nabb1: Whole Wheat: Link

If this makes you angry, something was going to get to you sooner or later. The YouTube comments are comedy gold.

Wow. That is almost unwatchable. Not because it is offensive, but because it is just plain bad.

So is it "Manos: Hands of Fate" bad or "Twilight" bad?

/time to get the Rifftrax dudes in on this whole thing for epic hilarity


Troll 2 bad.
 
2012-09-17 05:26:07 PM

Somacandra: whidbey: Because we're supposed to laugh and make captions for the "hijinks" of people exercising legitimate grievances at offensive material produced from this country.

[i.imgur.com image 360x480]


Perfectly done.
 
2012-09-17 05:26:51 PM

Somacandra: whidbey: Because we're supposed to laugh and make captions for the "hijinks" of people exercising legitimate grievances at offensive material produced from this country.

[i.imgur.com image 360x480]


Just noting the shops from the self-professed conservative(s) really did have a mean-spirited bent to them. Coincidence?
 
2012-09-17 05:27:28 PM

busy chillin': [s16.postimage.org image 500x677]


/i am thankfully free to say and post that
//you are free to get really mad at me
///then I am free to make fun of you for getting mad
////you are not free to kill me
//oh, and lighten up, francis,


L o L (qaeda)
 
2012-09-17 05:27:45 PM

whidbey: busy chillin': [s16.postimage.org image 500x677]


/i am thankfully free to say and post that
//you are free to get really mad at me
///then I am free to make fun of you for getting mad
////you are not free to kill me
//oh, and lighten up, francis,

Nice to know you condone the right to incite violence.

Oh and that shop was uncalled for. I should report you.


Yeah, freedom is scary, we should get rid of it.

It was kinda sorta called for.
 
2012-09-17 05:28:07 PM

vudukungfu: Well, just paste a picture of Muhamed over any angry Muslims you have photos of before you publish them.
Problem solved.

Farking 13th century assholes.

Nothing a bulldozer and a watercooled leadspitter couldn't solve, finally.


vudukungfu i like most of your posts but this one i like extra hard.
 
2012-09-17 05:28:30 PM

whidbey: Jones made the movie. It can be successfully argued that the movie, whether seen or not, was the catalyst behind the recent violence. Yes I know there were other factors.


Where did you see that he made the movie?

whidbey: Jones' free speech is not absolute if the offensive contents of his movie invokes violence against our way of life.


oh, so like a fiery political speech that leads to the shutdown of financial institutions and commerce as people react to it? People certainly have a degree of moral culpability when they engage in activities they have a reasonable suspicion will lead to violence (assuming they are not directly inciting violence). However, a law against such a thing would have a pretty significant impact on the sort of speech which leads to change.
 
2012-09-17 05:28:40 PM

whidbey: The movie can be judged obscene based on previous court cases, and the "clear and present danger" clause can also be used.


Your killin' me, Smalls.
 
2012-09-17 05:29:15 PM

Nabb1: whidbey: The movie can be judged obscene based on previous court cases, and the "clear and present danger" clause can also be used.

Your You're killin' me, Smalls.


FTFM
 
2012-09-17 05:29:45 PM

walkerhound: whidbey: legitimate

[www.agileproductdesign.com image 330x282]


So you don't believe that the people rioting have any real reason for lashing out at Jones' movie or for that matter, the West's foreign policy?
 
2012-09-17 05:30:04 PM
I like how newsweek pretty much admits to trolling with their covers.

There is some good meme material in here though
 
2012-09-17 05:30:50 PM
Crazed Palestinian Gunman Angered By Stereotypes

HEBRON, WEST BANK-In an emotionally charged press conference Monday, crazed Palestinian gunman Faisal al Hamad expressed frustration over the stereotyping of his people.

"As a crazed Palestinian gunman, I feel hurt by the negative portrayal of my people in the media," said al Hamad, 31, a Hebron-area terrorist maniac. "None of us should have to live with stereotyping and ignorance."

He then began screaming and firing into a busload of Israeli schoolchildren.

"It hurts that in this supposedly enlightened day and age, people still make assumptions about other people," al Hamad said. "We should not rely on simple generalizations. Each crazed Palestinian gunman is an individual."
 
2012-09-17 05:32:17 PM

whidbey: I_C_Weener: Good job to those of you who showed up with your sense of humor.  Better luck next time to those that left their's in the politics tab.

Because we're supposed to laugh and make captions for the "hijinks" of people exercising legitimate grievances at offensive material produced from this country. They're the ones we should be ridiculing. Got it.


I don't remember you being such an ass. What happened?
 
2012-09-17 05:32:55 PM

Repo Man: Crazed Palestinian Gunman Angered By Stereotypes


if laughing so hard I got tears in my eyes is wrong, I don't want to be right.
 
2012-09-17 05:33:02 PM

hinten: whidbey: I_C_Weener: Good job to those of you who showed up with your sense of humor.  Better luck next time to those that left their's in the politics tab.

Because we're supposed to laugh and make captions for the "hijinks" of people exercising legitimate grievances at offensive material produced from this country. They're the ones we should be ridiculing. Got it.

I don't remember you being such an ass. What happened?


you took a break from Fark and forgot some stuff about people?
 
2012-09-17 05:34:56 PM

whidbey: walkerhound: whidbey: legitimate

[www.agileproductdesign.com image 330x282]

So you don't believe that the people rioting have any real reason for lashing out at Jones' movie or for that matter, the West's foreign policy?


Apples and oranges those are.
 
2012-09-17 05:34:56 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2012-09-17 05:34:56 PM

Somacandra: whidbey: Because we're supposed to laugh and make captions for the "hijinks" of people exercising legitimate grievances at offensive material produced from this country.

[i.imgur.com image 360x480]


Bravo.
 
2012-09-17 05:36:12 PM
i.qkme.me
 
2012-09-17 05:37:44 PM
'MUSLIM RAGE' Cover Draws Angry Protest

Is there anything that doesn't draw angry protests from these people?
 
2012-09-17 05:39:29 PM

whidbey: walkerhound: whidbey: legitimate

[www.agileproductdesign.com image 330x282]

So you don't believe that the people rioting have any real reason for lashing out at Jones' movie or for that matter, the West's foreign policy?


A discussion about legitimate grievances about our foreign policy? That's fine. Telling us that our First amendment freedoms are unacceptable, and will have to be rescinded? No, not fine.
 
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