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2012-09-17 03:15:32 PM  

Philip Francis Queeg: Amos Quito: Philip Francis Queeg: How about this Red Line:

Israel immediately become signatory to the NPT and opens it's nuclear programs to inspection including revealing all past proliferation activities.


I agree with PPQ.

It would be a nice New Year's gesture.

Aw shiat I have a Nazi sympathizer agreeing with me.



A Nazi sympathizer? God forbid!

Who?
 
2012-09-17 03:18:07 PM  

badaboom: Not sure if anyone in Iran is getting a kick out of all this...

Link


Uh huh, so we should piss a few hundred trillion dollars away on another ill defined land war.. Because Israel is kinda free(if you are Jewish), and Iran has censorship!

Why is the GOP so intent on making sure we kick off ww3 in our lifetimes? Literally every mid east nation but the Saudis would join against us. Russia and China would aid Iran with money and arms. And BAM, yet another cold war proxy war.

That's your wet dream, perpetual war. After all, it's not like billionaires like romneybot will be harmed, right.

Well. How much is RomneyPAC paying you per post to shill yet more wars we don't really care about and can't afford?
 
2012-09-17 03:18:30 PM  

Parthenogenetic: karnal: Why do liberals hate Israel and Jews so much? You know who else hated Jews? This guy:
[www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk image 165x267]
Democrats are in good company.

Meh. You forgot to mention that "Nazi" is a contraction of "Nationalsozialismus", that liberals are socialists, and therefore liberalism is fascism.

Also, both sides are bad, so vote Republican.


Israel and Islamic nations are both equally bad, so let muslims murder american diplomats!
 
2012-09-17 03:20:53 PM  

badaboom: I always laugh at the libs contempt for Israel as a nation.


Nice straw man.
 
2012-09-17 03:21:23 PM  

beta_plus: Parthenogenetic: karnal: Why do liberals hate Israel and Jews so much? You know who else hated Jews? This guy:
[www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk image 165x267]
Democrats are in good company.

Meh. You forgot to mention that "Nazi" is a contraction of "Nationalsozialismus", that liberals are socialists, and therefore liberalism is fascism.

Also, both sides are bad, so vote Republican.

Israel and Islamic nations are both equally bad, so let muslims murder american diplomats!


LET? What should we do, swing our dick and start invading every county that protests the US?

Moron.
 
2012-09-17 03:21:40 PM  

badaboom: Lionel Mandrake: badaboom: I always laugh at the libs contempt for Israel as a nation. You do realize their values are way more compatible with yours that the Arab/Mulsim ones, right?

Which country has freedom of the Press?

Which country protects the equal rights of all its citizens? For example,y ou do know that Arab women have full voting rights in Israel, right?

Which country allows and protects LGBT?

Which country treats it women better?

Which country allows other religions to be practiced freely without fear of arrest? You do realize there are over 1 million Muslim citizens of Israel. You also realize that Israel has no state religion, right?

Which country would you rather live in libs? Iran or Israel?

All of that has nothing to do with the topic at hand, but thanks for trying.


Really? I thought we were picking sides. I have not heard anyone in this thread put any blame on the belligerence of Iran. According to this thread, Israel is a thorn in our side and Iran has done nothing to make Israel or the rest of the world concerned.


We have picked sides. Israel. That does not mean we have to jump on board with everything they do or want to do.
 
2012-09-17 03:21:41 PM  

neongoats: badaboom: Not sure if anyone in Iran is getting a kick out of all this...

Link

Uh huh, so we should piss a few hundred trillion dollars away on another ill defined land war.. Because Israel is kinda free(if you are Jewish), and Iran has censorship!

Why is the GOP so intent on making sure we kick off ww3 in our lifetimes? Literally every mid east nation but the Saudis would join against us. Russia and China would aid Iran with money and arms. And BAM, yet another cold war proxy war.

That's your wet dream, perpetual war. After all, it's not like billionaires like romneybot will be harmed, right.

Well. How much is RomneyPAC paying you per post to shill yet more wars we don't really care about and can't afford?



If Israel laid down its arms today do you think Iran would also stand down?

If Iran laid down its arms today do you think Israel or the US would attack?
 
2012-09-17 03:23:25 PM  

theknuckler_33: badaboom: I always laugh at the libs contempt for Israel as a nation.

Nice straw man.


Don't understand strawmen very well do we? I was only commenting on the contempt I see for Israel coming from the left. I made no other argument than that.
 
2012-09-17 03:23:37 PM  

beta_plus: Parthenogenetic: karnal: Why do liberals hate Israel and Jews so much? You know who else hated Jews? This guy:
[www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk image 165x267]
Democrats are in good company.

Meh. You forgot to mention that "Nazi" is a contraction of "Nationalsozialismus", that liberals are socialists, and therefore liberalism is fascism.

Also, both sides are bad, so vote Republican.

Israel and Islamic nations are both equally bad, so let muslims murder american diplomats!


No, it's more like: it's in our best interest to let them mutually destroy one another and rid the earth of two groups of fundamentalists that are stepping over each other to see who has the bigger god penis.
 
2012-09-17 03:28:01 PM  

badaboom: Lionel Mandrake: All of that has nothing to do with the topic at hand, but thanks for trying.

Really? I thought we were picking sides. I have not heard anyone in this thread put any blame on the belligerence of Iran. According to this thread, Israel is a thorn in our side and Iran has done nothing to make Israel or the rest of the world concerned.


Then you obviously don't know how to read. People realize that Israel has been telling the world that Iran is a 'few years away' from getting nuclear weapons for 20 farking years trying to goad the US into attacking them. People rightly are annoyed that Israel has dictated US policy in the ME since at least the 60s and basically are saying "no, israel, we're not going to preemptively strike Iran for you". This in no way is a statement that "Iran has done nothing to make Israel concerned".

English, mother-farker, do you speak it?
 
2012-09-17 03:28:09 PM  

badaboom: According to this thread, Israel is a thorn in our side and Iran has done nothing to make Israel or the rest of the world concerned.



If that be the case, I agree with this thread.
 
2012-09-17 03:30:43 PM  

badaboom: neongoats: badaboom: Not sure if anyone in Iran is getting a kick out of all this...

Link

Uh huh, so we should piss a few hundred trillion dollars away on another ill defined land war.. Because Israel is kinda free(if you are Jewish), and Iran has censorship!

Why is the GOP so intent on making sure we kick off ww3 in our lifetimes? Literally every mid east nation but the Saudis would join against us. Russia and China would aid Iran with money and arms. And BAM, yet another cold war proxy war.

That's your wet dream, perpetual war. After all, it's not like billionaires like romneybot will be harmed, right.

Well. How much is RomneyPAC paying you per post to shill yet more wars we don't really care about and can't afford?


If Israel laid down its arms today do you think Iran would also stand down?

If Iran laid down its arms today do you think Israel or the US would attack?


Yes, I do think israel and the us would attack Iran IMMEDIATELY upon receiving confirmed intelligence that they are defenseless. The very farking moment.

How about you address a single point directed at you, instead of deflecting with bullshiat theoretical troll questions.
 
2012-09-17 03:30:50 PM  
It would be cute that Netanyahu thinks he can dictate U.S. foreign policy, if it weren't so pernicious.
 
2012-09-17 03:31:13 PM  

badaboom: theknuckler_33: badaboom: I always laugh at the libs contempt for Israel as a nation.

Nice straw man.

Don't understand strawmen very well do we? I was only commenting on the contempt I see for Israel coming from the left. I made no other argument than that.


Conservatives are racist.

straw man or fact?

And, what you are calling 'contempt' is mostly people tired of Israel dictating US policy in the ME. That is not contempt for Israel 'as a nation'. You are engaging in the fallacy that anything other than blind, total, support and capitulation to Israel is 'contempt' for them.
 
2012-09-17 03:31:32 PM  

theknuckler_33: badaboom: Lionel Mandrake: All of that has nothing to do with the topic at hand, but thanks for trying.

Really? I thought we were picking sides. I have not heard anyone in this thread put any blame on the belligerence of Iran. According to this thread, Israel is a thorn in our side and Iran has done nothing to make Israel or the rest of the world concerned.

Then you obviously don't know how to read. People realize that Israel has been telling the world that Iran is a 'few years away' from getting nuclear weapons for 20 farking years trying to goad the US into attacking them. People rightly are annoyed that Israel has dictated US policy in the ME since at least the 60s and basically are saying "no, israel, we're not going to preemptively strike Iran for you". This in no way is a statement that "Iran has done nothing to make Israel concerned".

English, mother-farker, do you speak it?


Are you concerned about the following scenario: Iran does have a nuclear bomb and will use it as soon as possible to destroy Israel and all its citizens. If the only way to prevent this was a strike would you support it? What do you suggest be our response if Iran does bomb Israel?
 
2012-09-17 03:32:49 PM  

shastacola: badaboom: Holocaust Agnostic: badaboom: I always laugh at the libs contempt for Israel as a nation. You do realize their values are way more compatible with yours that the Arab/Mulsim ones, right?

Which country has freedom of the Press?

Which country protects the equal rights of all its citizens? For example,y ou do know that Arab women have full voting rights in Israel, right?

Which country allows and protects LGBT?

Which country treats it women better?

Which country allows other religions to be practiced freely without fear of arrest? You do realize there are over 1 million Muslim citizens of Israel. You also realize that Israel has no state religion, right?

Which country would you rather live in libs? Iran or Israel?

Iran.


[standupforamerica.files.wordpress.com image 338x500]

Well I hope that you or no one you know isn't gay

I would suggest trying to use common sense to someone who calls himself "holocaust agnostic" is a lost cause.


I thought cheeky usernames were par for the course. I am so sorry to have so deeply misunderstood and lowered the level of discourse here on fark.com.
 
2012-09-17 03:33:18 PM  

theknuckler_33: People rightly are annoyed that Israel has dictated US policy in the ME since at least the 60s and basically are saying "no, israel, we're not going to preemptively strike Iran for you".



And people wonder why Bibi and the US Neocon/Zionist political machine HATE Obama.

img.jspace.com

Sheldon is betting that Mittens will be a more cooperative employee.
 
2012-09-17 03:33:24 PM  

vudukungfu: WHAaaaaaaaaa. Iran is picking on me. Help me, USA!


No Israel, you're a big boy now, mommy can't fight your battles for you forever you know.
 
2012-09-17 03:34:14 PM  

neongoats: badaboom: neongoats: badaboom: Not sure if anyone in Iran is getting a kick out of all this...

Link

Uh huh, so we should piss a few hundred trillion dollars away on another ill defined land war.. Because Israel is kinda free(if you are Jewish), and Iran has censorship!

Why is the GOP so intent on making sure we kick off ww3 in our lifetimes? Literally every mid east nation but the Saudis would join against us. Russia and China would aid Iran with money and arms. And BAM, yet another cold war proxy war.

That's your wet dream, perpetual war. After all, it's not like billionaires like romneybot will be harmed, right.

Well. How much is RomneyPAC paying you per post to shill yet more wars we don't really care about and can't afford?


If Israel laid down its arms today do you think Iran would also stand down?

If Iran laid down its arms today do you think Israel or the US would attack?

Yes, I do think israel and the us would attack Iran IMMEDIATELY upon receiving confirmed intelligence that they are defenseless. The very farking moment.

How about you address a single point directed at you, instead of deflecting with bullshiat theoretical troll questions.


LOL. So you believe that Israel wants genocide? What would be there reason for attacking if Iran decided to mind its own farking business? And you are being too concrete. I did not mean give up its weapons for a moment. I meant Iran would give up its intention for destroying Israel for good.
 
2012-09-17 03:35:03 PM  
"Let's you and them fight."
 
2012-09-17 03:35:47 PM  

karnal: As for Jewish Americans voting Democrat I think it is because of Tikkun olam, which is Hebrew phrase that means "repairing the world" which is very much in line with today's progressive liberals.


Well Regressive Conservatives have their philosophy: "break everything possible and blame others".
 
2012-09-17 03:36:04 PM  
We'll assist Israel in their crusade with our superior military if they assist us with our serious lack of medical coverage for our citizens with their superior health care system.

It can't just be a one way street.
 
2012-09-17 03:40:28 PM  

Raoul Eaton: It would be cute that Netanyahu thinks he can dictate U.S. foreign policy, if it weren't so pernicious.



BibiCo has many friends in powerful positions in US politics, academia, industry, and most importantly, media.

Keep an eye on the other hand (s).
 
2012-09-17 03:42:11 PM  

badaboom: I meant Iran would give up its intention for destroying Israel for good.



False premise.
 
2012-09-17 03:42:49 PM  

badaboom: theknuckler_33: badaboom: Lionel Mandrake: All of that has nothing to do with the topic at hand, but thanks for trying.

Really? I thought we were picking sides. I have not heard anyone in this thread put any blame on the belligerence of Iran. According to this thread, Israel is a thorn in our side and Iran has done nothing to make Israel or the rest of the world concerned.

Then you obviously don't know how to read. People realize that Israel has been telling the world that Iran is a 'few years away' from getting nuclear weapons for 20 farking years trying to goad the US into attacking them. People rightly are annoyed that Israel has dictated US policy in the ME since at least the 60s and basically are saying "no, israel, we're not going to preemptively strike Iran for you". This in no way is a statement that "Iran has done nothing to make Israel concerned".

English, mother-farker, do you speak it?

Are you concerned about the following scenario: Iran does have a nuclear bomb and will use it as soon as possible to destroy Israel and all its citizens. If the only way to prevent this was a strike would you support it? What do you suggest be our response if Iran does bomb Israel?


I am about as concerned about that as I am that Pakistan or China might start lobbing nukes, which is to say, not very much. Foreign policy of a world super-power should not be dictated by pants-wetting cowards who think their imminent destruction is just around the corner. If Iran bombs Israel then we, and Israel, and a whole host of other countries as well, will respond. That's the way things used to be, you got into a war because you were attacked.

But getting back to the point, your strawman that 'libs have contempt for israel as a nation' is indeed a strawman. Noone said Iran has done nothing to be concerned about. There would be a hell of a lot more rational discussion and cooperation if people like you would at least be rational enough to understand the point of views of other people.

And yes, I'm aware of the irony of me speaking about rational discussion after using the phrase 'pants-wetting cowards' in the previous paragraph... but I figured rational discussion at this point was pretty much off the table, so might as well let loose.
 
2012-09-17 03:47:14 PM  

Cyclometh: Philip Francis Queeg: Cyclometh: Philip Francis Queeg: Cyclometh: Philip Francis Queeg: Cyclometh: It's a good point- but what I don't want to see is us publicly rebuking Israel and telling them to work it out for themselves- that weakens them and doesn't help us at all.

How do you feel about Israel publicly rebuking the US?

Who cares? Their approval isn't required for us. For them, our opprobrium comes with serious consequences, both for them AND us. We don't have to have a binary scenario of "WE LOVE ISRAEL" and "GO TO HELL, BIBI". We could, you know-have a nuanced approach.

Like "We appreciate the Israeli position, especially in the light of our longstanding friendship. We are of course carefully monitoring the situation, but are not taking action at this time. If conditions warrant that stance changes, we will take action as necessary in conjunction with the will of the international community and the safety of American interests and human life everywhere. We strongly encourage all parties to this issue to avoid rhetoric that would serve only to increase tensions." And in private call Bibi and chew him out for farking around.

So it's bad for the US to publicly rebuke Israel, but no big deal in reverse? Huh. Interesting. I didn't realize that we were the junior partner in the so called "alliance".

You know, it doesn't take more than a single scroll of the mousewheel to see you accusing ME of using a strawman.

No strawman, just your clear, unambiguous statements.

You know, I think I'll just leave the discussion here. I'll let anyone who comes along and reads what I've said and what you've said decide who is being disingenous here.


Shame, yours has been the most realistic and not-droolingly-insane or disingenuous take in the thread. Bravo, and bravo to whoever tf'd you.
 
2012-09-17 03:47:29 PM  

theknuckler_33: badaboom: theknuckler_33: badaboom: Lionel Mandrake: All of that has nothing to do with the topic at hand, but thanks for trying.

Really? I thought we were picking sides. I have not heard anyone in this thread put any blame on the belligerence of Iran. According to this thread, Israel is a thorn in our side and Iran has done nothing to make Israel or the rest of the world concerned.

Then you obviously don't know how to read. People realize that Israel has been telling the world that Iran is a 'few years away' from getting nuclear weapons for 20 farking years trying to goad the US into attacking them. People rightly are annoyed that Israel has dictated US policy in the ME since at least the 60s and basically are saying "no, israel, we're not going to preemptively strike Iran for you". This in no way is a statement that "Iran has done nothing to make Israel concerned".

English, mother-farker, do you speak it?

Are you concerned about the following scenario: Iran does have a nuclear bomb and will use it as soon as possible to destroy Israel and all its citizens. If the only way to prevent this was a strike would you support it? What do you suggest be our response if Iran does bomb Israel?

I am about as concerned about that as I am that Pakistan or China might start lobbing nukes, which is to say, not very much. Foreign policy of a world super-power should not be dictated by pants-wetting cowards who think their imminent destruction is just around the corner. If Iran bombs Israel then we, and Israel, and a whole host of other countries as well, will respond. That's the way things used to be, you got into a war because you were attacked.

But getting back to the point, your strawman that 'libs have contempt for israel as a nation' is indeed a strawman. Noone said Iran has done nothing to be concerned about. There would be a hell of a lot more rational discussion and cooperation if people like you would at least be rational enough to understand the point of views of o ...



Except Iran has made their intentions quite clear. Can't remember the last time Pakistan or China threatened to destroy anyone/
 
2012-09-17 03:48:57 PM  

TIKIMAN87: Funny how Obama has time to go on Letterman but no time to meet with the leader of one of our allies.

What a disgrace.


Israel has never been our 'ally'. An alliance is a two way cooperation. I think the word you're looking for is parasite.
 
2012-09-17 03:49:29 PM  

badaboom: neongoats: badaboom: neongoats: badaboom: Not sure if anyone in Iran is getting a kick out of all this...

Link

Uh huh, so we should piss a few hundred trillion dollars away on another ill defined land war.. Because Israel is kinda free(if you are Jewish), and Iran has censorship!

Why is the GOP so intent on making sure we kick off ww3 in our lifetimes? Literally every mid east nation but the Saudis would join against us. Russia and China would aid Iran with money and arms. And BAM, yet another cold war proxy war.

That's your wet dream, perpetual war. After all, it's not like billionaires like romneybot will be harmed, right.

Well. How much is RomneyPAC paying you per post to shill yet more wars we don't really care about and can't afford?


If Israel laid down its arms today do you think Iran would also stand down?

If Iran laid down its arms today do you think Israel or the US would attack?

Yes, I do think israel and the us would attack Iran IMMEDIATELY upon receiving confirmed intelligence that they are defenseless. The very farking moment.

How about you address a single point directed at you, instead of deflecting with bullshiat theoretical troll questions.

LOL. So you believe that Israel wants genocide? What would be there reason for attacking if Iran decided to mind its own farking business? And you are being too concrete. I did not mean give up its weapons for a moment. I meant Iran would give up its intention for destroying Israel for good.


Oh I'm sorry, I'm being to literal in my imagination of your fantasy scenario.

Hint: Iran has been minding its own business. I haven't heard even the derpiest of derptastic sources claim that they have initiated hostile action against ANYONE.

Sitting in your own country and hating on another one isn't exactly provocation. Pretty much anyone not English speaking and white would have all the excuse they need to invade lags chunks of the US if that were so.
 
2012-09-17 03:51:01 PM  
badaboom

theknuckler_33: badaboom: I always laugh at the libs contempt for Israel as a nation.

Nice straw man.

Don't understand strawmen very well do we? I was only commenting on the contempt I see for Israel coming from the left. I made no other argument than that.



...and their comtempt for Israel is palatable (tasted like shiat), undeniable and unapologetic.
 
2012-09-17 03:52:39 PM  

badaboom: Except Iran has made their intentions quite clear. Can't remember the last time Pakistan or China threatened to destroy anyone/



Yes, Iran has been assassinating Israel's scientists, sabotaging their computer systems, and blowing up Israel's power lines, along with their daily threats to bomb the shiat out poor little Israel.

Or is it the other way around?
 
2012-09-17 03:54:39 PM  
Greg Marmalard: But Delta's already on probation.

Dean Vernon Wormer: They are? Well, as of this moment, they're on DOUBLE SECRET PROBATION!
 
2012-09-17 03:55:46 PM  

badaboom: Except Iran has made their intentions quite clear.


Maybe Israel should do something about that.

Why should we?
 
2012-09-17 03:55:59 PM  

Amos Quito: Sheldon is betting that Mittens will be a more cooperative employee.


Well he sure did pay him enough.
 
2012-09-17 03:56:38 PM  
I think it's time for Bibi to go fark himself.
 
2012-09-17 03:56:40 PM  
neongoats

badaboom: neongoats: badaboom: neongoats: badaboom: Not sure if anyone in Iran is getting a kick out of all this...

Link

Uh huh, so we should piss a few hundred trillion dollars away on another ill defined land war.. Because Israel is kinda free(if you are Jewish), and Iran has censorship!

Why is the GOP so intent on making sure we kick off ww3 in our lifetimes? Literally every mid east nation but the Saudis would join against us. Russia and China would aid Iran with money and arms. And BAM, yet another cold war proxy war.

That's your wet dream, perpetual war. After all, it's not like billionaires like romneybot will be harmed, right.

Well. How much is RomneyPAC paying you per post to shill yet more wars we don't really care about and can't afford?


If Israel laid down its arms today do you think Iran would also stand down?

If Iran laid down its arms today do you think Israel or the US would attack?

Yes, I do think israel and the us would attack Iran IMMEDIATELY upon receiving confirmed intelligence that they are defenseless. The very farking moment.

How about you address a single point directed at you, instead of deflecting with bullshiat theoretical troll questions.

LOL. So you believe that Israel wants genocide? What would be there reason for attacking if Iran decided to mind its own farking business? And you are being too concrete. I did not mean give up its weapons for a moment. I meant Iran would give up its intention for destroying Israel for good.

Oh I'm sorry, I'm being to literal in my imagination of your fantasy scenario.

Hint: Iran has been minding its own business. I haven't heard even the derpiest of derptastic sources claim that they have initiated hostile action against ANYONE.

Sitting in your own country and hating on another one isn't exactly provocation. Pretty much anyone not English speaking and white would have all the excuse they need to invade lags chunks of the US if that were so.

All official translations of Mr. Ahmadinejad's statement, including a description of it on his website, refer to wiping Israel away. Sohrab Mahdavi, one of Iran's most prominent translators, and Siamak Namazi, managing director of a Tehran consulting firm, who is bilingual, both say "wipe off" or "wipe away" is more accurate than "vanish" because the Persian verb is active and transitive.
 
2012-09-17 03:58:15 PM  

badaboom: I am about as concerned about that as I am that Pakistan or China might start lobbing nukes, which is to say, not very much. Foreign policy of a world super-power should not be dictated by pants-wetting cowards who think their imminent destruction is just around the corner. If Iran bombs Israel then we, and Israel, and a whole host of other countries as well, will respond. That's the way things used to be, you got into a war because you were attacked.

Except Iran has made their intentions quite clear. Can't remember the last time Pakistan or China threatened to destroy anyone/


That hardly prevents conservatives from hand-wringing about China's imminent take-over of the US. We should totally preemptively strike Iran and risk all sorts of unintended consequences like strengthening the support of the radical government by its citizens, further spikes in oil prices sabotaging economies around the world, further complicating relations with Russia and China, and plunging perhaps the entire ME into war, not to mention putting American service people lives at risk over something someone said. Why aren't we flying bombing runs on a daily basis in North Korea that developed a nuke under Dubya and has been openly hostile to non-nuclear armed Japan?

But please, continue ignoring how you jump into the fray with a stupid straw man.
 
2012-09-17 03:59:11 PM  
Lionel Mandrake


badaboom: Except Iran has made their intentions quite clear.

Maybe Israel should do something about that.

Why should we?



I agree with this.....but Israel needs to know if they protect themselves from Iran with a pre-emptive strike, that someone will have their backs when the rest of the Middle East comes after them.
 
2012-09-17 04:03:19 PM  

neongoats: badaboom: neongoats: badaboom: neongoats: badaboom: Not sure if anyone in Iran is getting a kick out of all this...

Link

Uh huh, so we should piss a few hundred trillion dollars away on another ill defined land war.. Because Israel is kinda free(if you are Jewish), and Iran has censorship!

Why is the GOP so intent on making sure we kick off ww3 in our lifetimes? Literally every mid east nation but the Saudis would join against us. Russia and China would aid Iran with money and arms. And BAM, yet another cold war proxy war.

That's your wet dream, perpetual war. After all, it's not like billionaires like romneybot will be harmed, right.

Well. How much is RomneyPAC paying you per post to shill yet more wars we don't really care about and can't afford?


If Israel laid down its arms today do you think Iran would also stand down?

If Iran laid down its arms today do you think Israel or the US would attack?

Yes, I do think israel and the us would attack Iran IMMEDIATELY upon receiving confirmed intelligence that they are defenseless. The very farking moment.

How about you address a single point directed at you, instead of deflecting with bullshiat theoretical troll questions.

LOL. So you believe that Israel wants genocide? What would be there reason for attacking if Iran decided to mind its own farking business? And you are being too concrete. I did not mean give up its weapons for a moment. I meant Iran would give up its intention for destroying Israel for good.

Oh I'm sorry, I'm being to literal in my imagination of your fantasy scenario.

Hint: Iran has been minding its own business. I haven't heard even the derpiest of derptastic sources claim that they have initiated hostile action against ANYONE.

Sitting in your own country and hating on another one isn't exactly provocation. Pretty much anyone not English speaking and white would have all the excuse they need to invade lags chunks of the US if that were so.


You are right. They are just kidding.

"The fake Zionist regime will disappear from the landscape of geography," vowed Supreme Leader Ayatollah Khamenei. "This Islamic land will certainly be returned to the Palestinian nation."

Brig. Gen. Jalali, head of Iran's civil defense organization and former commander of Iran's Revolutionary Guards, was even more explicit. "To liberate Palestine, no other way exists apart from resolve and strength to completely eliminate and destroy Israel," he declared.

And Iranian President Ahmadinejad, true to form, chimed in by promising a "new Middle East with no trace of Americans or Israelis." The time has come, he added, to "remove the Zionist black stain from humanity.

And:

August 17, 2012

"The Zionist regime and the Zionists are a cancerous tumor. Even if the Zionists remain on one span (more like inch) of the Land of Palestine is dangerous, because they will come to have a legal and official government."

October 10, 2009

"The Zionist regime wants to establish its base upon the ruins of the civilizations of the region...The uniform shout of the Iranian nation is forever 'Death to Israel.'..."

(As quoted by Fars News Agency)

May 8, 2008

"Those who think they can revive the stinking corpse of the usurping and fake Israeli regime by throwing a birthday party are seriously mistaken."

"Today the reason for the Zionist regime's existence is questioned, and this regime is on its way to annihilation.... (Israel) has reached the end like a dead rat after being slapped by the Lebanese."

(Remarks on Israel's Independence Day, as quoted by Iran's official IRNA news agency)

June 3, 2007

"With God's help, the countdown button for the destruction of the Zionist regime has been pushed by the hands of the children of Lebanon and Palestine . . . By God's will, we will witness the destruction of this regime in the near future."
(Speech, as quoted by the Fars News Agency)

"A new Middle East will definitely take shape, but with the grace of God and the help of the nations in this new Middle East, there will be no American or Zionist presence in it."

(Speech in Tehran marking annual Iran Quds Day protest against Israel's existence)

October 26, 2005

"Israel must be wiped off the map ... The establishment of a Zionist regime was a move by the world oppressor against the Islamic world . . . The skirmishes in the occupied land are part of the war of destiny. The outcome of hundreds of years of war will be defined in Palestinian land."

(In an address to 4,000 students at a program titled, 'The World Without Zionism')
 
2012-09-17 04:08:09 PM  

DeltaPunch: DeltaPunch: Look, I understand his concerns and I certainly hope we can work together moving forward, but I really wish he'd just STFU and keep his nose out of our erections.

holy fark I really typed that didn't I? ELECTIONS....

/shouldn't type before coffee
//*grumble*


And yet it was the best comment here.
 
2012-09-17 04:10:08 PM  

karnal: Lionel Mandrake


badaboom: Except Iran has made their intentions quite clear.

Maybe Israel should do something about that.

Why should we?


I agree with this.....but Israel needs to know if they protect themselves from Iran with a pre-emptive strike, that someone will have their backs when the rest of the Middle East comes after them.


Maybe that's a reason not to do it in the first place. When the medicine (all out war in the ME) is worse than the disease (Ahmadinejad said bad things), you should think twice.
 
2012-09-17 04:12:08 PM  

theknuckler_33: karnal: Lionel Mandrake


badaboom: Except Iran has made their intentions quite clear.

Maybe Israel should do something about that.

Why should we?


I agree with this.....but Israel needs to know if they protect themselves from Iran with a pre-emptive strike, that someone will have their backs when the rest of the Middle East comes after them.

Maybe that's a reason not to do it in the first place. When the medicine (all out war in the ME) is worse than the disease (Ahmadinejad said bad things), you should think twice.


We won't know until it happens. Guess we will all collectively keep our fingers crossed.
 
2012-09-17 04:13:16 PM  
So, Israel wants us to jump in and back them up on a fight they are trying to start?

How about you guys clean up your own mess?
 
2012-09-17 04:15:59 PM  
Israel Firsters in my American election?

Isn't that an "Anti-Semitic Canard" ?

And here it comes again, like it has 200 times, Jews gonna get stomped because of the vicious minority in their ranks.
 
2012-09-17 04:15:59 PM  

karnal: Lionel Mandrake


badaboom: Except Iran has made their intentions quite clear.

Maybe Israel should do something about that.

Why should we?


I agree with this.....but Israel needs to know if they protect themselves from Iran with a pre-emptive strike, that someone will have their backs when the rest of the Middle East comes after them.



First, it won't be a "preemptive strike", it will be naked aggression. Israel has been "crying wolf" over Iran, their "imminent nuclear capability" and the "existential threat" it poses for TWENTY YEARS.

Second, the reason that there is fear of RETALIATION in the form of Iran crippling traffic in the Strait of Hormuz is that the US, Europe, and all of the other suckers that have been listening to Israel's whine ARE cooperating - levying horrendous sanctions, and implying cooperation in the attack.

That is why we are also seen as targets.

Does any of this remind you of the lies about Iraq fed to the West by Israel's Mossadniks prior to Gulf War II?

Yeah. Lies then, lies now.

Who was the primary beneficiary of Iraq being "tamed"?

Who will be the primary beneficiary if we attack Iran?
 
2012-09-17 04:18:59 PM  

badaboom: theknuckler_33: karnal: Lionel Mandrake


badaboom: Except Iran has made their intentions quite clear.

Maybe Israel should do something about that.

Why should we?


I agree with this.....but Israel needs to know if they protect themselves from Iran with a pre-emptive strike, that someone will have their backs when the rest of the Middle East comes after them.

Maybe that's a reason not to do it in the first place. When the medicine (all out war in the ME) is worse than the disease (Ahmadinejad said bad things), you should think twice.

We won't know until it happens. Guess we will all collectively keep our fingers crossed.


Don't pretend like nothing is being done. Sanctions may not be sexy or fast, but they have an effect. Last year was the first big sign of popular unrest since the revolution in the late 70s. Considering the 'two years away from getting a nuke' warning keeps getting pushed back again and again and again and again, I'm more inclined to ignore the 'cry wolf' warnings when the alternative has zero benefit to the US beyond the privilege of doing the bidding of Israel.
 
2012-09-17 04:19:06 PM  
Again, you all(I mean the war trolls) are just listing things Iran has said. They hate Israel, they talk about wanting to wipe them off the map, bla bla bla.

Please, point to an example where they, you know, do something.

Hint: invading nations because they talk shiat is stupid. And one might even say wrong. I can hate the ever living shiat out of someone, and I can rant and rave to everyone I know how it's my life's mission to crush and destroy you and your terrible, evil ways. But you can't farking arrest me for it, and it's just as farking flimsy a reason to invade a nation and piss away the lives of our servicemen.
 
2012-09-17 04:19:08 PM  

Amos Quito: karnal: Lionel Mandrake


badaboom: Except Iran has made their intentions quite clear.

Maybe Israel should do something about that.

Why should we?


I agree with this.....but Israel needs to know if they protect themselves from Iran with a pre-emptive strike, that someone will have their backs when the rest of the Middle East comes after them.


First, it won't be a "preemptive strike", it will be naked aggression. Israel has been "crying wolf" over Iran, their "imminent nuclear capability" and the "existential threat" it poses for TWENTY YEARS.

Second, the reason that there is fear of RETALIATION in the form of Iran crippling traffic in the Strait of Hormuz is that the US, Europe, and all of the other suckers that have been listening to Israel's whine ARE cooperating - levying horrendous sanctions, and implying cooperation in the attack.

That is why we are also seen as targets.

Does any of this remind you of the lies about Iraq fed to the West by Israel's Mossadniks prior to Gulf War II?

Yeah. Lies then, lies now.

Who was the primary beneficiary of Iraq being "tamed"?

Who will be the primary beneficiary if we attack Iran?


berkeley.intel-research.net
 
2012-09-17 04:22:48 PM  

badaboom: "Those who think they can revive the stinking corpse of the usurping and fake Israeli regime by throwing a birthday party are seriously mistaken."

"Today the reason for the Zionist regime's existence is questioned, and this regime is on its way to annihilation.... (Israel) has reached the end like a dead rat after being slapped by the Lebanese."

(Remarks on Israel's Independence Day, as quoted by Iran's official IRNA news agency)

June 3, 2007

"With God's help, the countdown button for the destruction of the Zionist regime has been pushed by the hands of the children of Lebanon and Palestine . . . By God's will, we will witness the destruction of this regime in the near future."
(Speech, as quoted by the Fars News Agency)

"A new Middle East will definitely take shape, but with the grace of God and the help of the nations in this new Middle East, there will be no American or Zionist presence in it."

(Speech in Tehran marking annual Iran Quds Day protest against Israel's existence)

October 26, 2005

"Israel must be wiped off the map ... The establishment of a Zionist regime was a move by the world oppressor against the Islamic world . . . The skirmishes in the occupied land are part of the war of destiny. The outcome of hundreds of years of war will be defined in Palestinian land."

(In an address to 4,000 students at a program titled, 'The World Without Zionism')




For your edification:

regime [ruh-zheem, rey-, or, sometimes, -jeem] Show IPA
noun
1. a mode or system of rule or government: a dictatorial regime.
2. a ruling or prevailing system.
3. a government in power.
4. the period during which a particular government or ruling system is in power.


Understanding what words mean can be helpful.
 
2012-09-17 04:25:51 PM  
Goy blood isn't real blood
 
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