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(CNN)   Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu urges the United States to draw a "red line" that Iran cannot cross - which President Barack Obama last week reportedly rejected even though Red is his favorite color   (articles.cnn.com) divider line 304
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2012-09-17 10:03:47 AM  
WHAaaaaaaaaa. Iran is picking on me. Help me, USA!

How about we sit this one out.
You got religeous extremists with guns on both sides.
Allow the problem to self-correct.
 
2012-09-17 10:12:07 AM  
golf clap. Damn near made we waste coffee. Well done submitter.
 
2012-09-17 10:18:45 AM  

vudukungfu: WHAaaaaaaaaa. Iran is picking on me. Help me, USA!

How about we sit this one out.
You got religeous extremists with guns on both sides.
Allow the problem to self-correct.


Iran isn't stupid enough to start something without provocation, especially given that Ahmadinejad is going to be voted out of office relatively soon, and neither is Israel.

Israel, however, is counting on America being that stupid.

U.S. intelligence agencies see no evidence Iran is moving towards a bomb

Nearly 60% of Americans do not think we should support Israel militarily if a pre-emptive strike touches off a larger conflict in the region

More right-wing lies about Israel and Iran debunked

Now hopefully the Israeli Keyboard Kommandos will stay away now that their talking points are thoroughly debunked.
 
2012-09-17 10:27:27 AM  
Sorry. You had better pray for a Romney victory if you want a President who is your lap dog. No more American lives for Israel's agenda.

/commence with the anti-semite remarks.
 
2012-09-17 10:28:57 AM  
Invisible arbitrary lines? Sounds like someone wants Bush back. No wonder Bibi is backing Romney.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-09-17 10:33:12 AM  
Maybe Bibi could use some of that money we give him and draw his own farking line.
 
2012-09-17 10:35:18 AM  
Bibi--you don't get to tell other countries what to do for you. You want to launch an illegal pre-emptive war on another country, you're on your own. Hopefully your populace will be able to restrain you, but that is up to them.
 
2012-09-17 10:37:21 AM  

Mugato: No more American lives for Israel's agenda.


Agreed. I would add no more American weapons either--for Israel or any other country in the Middle East.
 
2012-09-17 10:37:57 AM  
How about we draw a red line where we want Israel settlements to stop.
 
2012-09-17 10:39:03 AM  

Mugato: Sorry. You had better pray for a Romney victory if you want a President who is your lap dog. No more American lives for Israel's agenda.

/commence with the anti-semite remarks.


That's not going to fly. As the boomers start dying off, less and less Americans are going to support Israel without question, since the younger generation is more secular and really doesn't see the point in using an ancient book written by monks who were drunk and stoned off of moldy bread as a guide for foreign policy. Israel, like the GOP, is fighting a losing demographic battle. I predict a whole lot more Israeli propaganda aimed at "low-information voters" and I wouldn't put it past them to gin something up before the election.
 
2012-09-17 10:54:35 AM  
Look, I understand his concerns and I certainly hope we can work together moving forward, but I really wish he'd just STFU and keep his nose out of our erections.
 
2012-09-17 10:57:51 AM  

Somacandra: Mugato: No more American lives for Israel's agenda.

Agreed. I would add no more American weapons either--for Israel or any other country in the Middle East.


Sure, then some of the other top five arms dealing countries can step up fill the void, likely Russia and China. Nope, can't see a downside for the US there.
 
2012-09-17 10:59:52 AM  

Bob_Laublaw: Somacandra: Mugato: No more American lives for Israel's agenda.

Agreed. I would add no more American weapons either--for Israel or any other country in the Middle East.

Sure, then some of the other top five arms dealing countries can step up fill the void, likely Russia and China. Nope, can't see a downside for the US there.


Because it's not like Israel is already a duplicitous, underhanded trading partner of either of those two countries, especially when it comes to military hardware,......
 
2012-09-17 11:06:56 AM  
I got an email from my dad about how to best support Israel in the "inevitable war" that is about to come. I facepalmed pretty hard.
 
2012-09-17 11:17:01 AM  

Bob_Laublaw: Somacandra: Mugato: No more American lives for Israel's agenda.

Agreed. I would add no more American weapons either--for Israel or any other country in the Middle East.

Sure, then some of the other top five arms dealing countries can step up fill the void, likely Russia and China. Nope, can't see a downside for the US there.


WTF is this, if we don't sell them guns someone else will? So, let them be the dickbags then. I'll see your "they have guns from different sources" and raise you "we spend more on our military than the entire rest of the world combined."
 
2012-09-17 11:22:41 AM  

Fark It: U.S. intelligence agencies see no evidence Iran is moving towards a bomb


They also told us that Iraq had WMDs. We have quote after quote from the leadership of Iran talking about wiping Israel off the map with waves of fire. Do you think he is talking about napalm?

Fark It: Nearly 60% of Americans do not think we should support Israel militarily if a pre-emptive strike touches off a larger conflict in the region


The vast majority of Americans can't find Israel on a map. Anyway the decision to go to war isn't and shouldn't be up for a vote. We hire people for things like that. We go flooding into Iran I had better not get an address from the Oval Office that states "Well X% of you thought it was a good idea so lets go!".
 
2012-09-17 11:29:31 AM  

Elandriel: WTF is this, if we don't sell them guns someone else will?


Yes, and with that comes a change of influence.

Elandriel: I'll see your "they have guns from different sources" and raise you "we spend more on our military than the entire rest of the world combined."


Sure, the US has a powerful military; Iraq & Afghanistan were cakewalks.

Hey, I'm no hawk and I'd love to see Israel and the Middle East be cut off from western munition supplies; I'm saying no US administration will ever walk away from it and the suggestion is fantasy.
 
2012-09-17 11:29:42 AM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Fark It: U.S. intelligence agencies see no evidence Iran is moving towards a bomb

They also told us that Iraq had WMDs.


The were divided, at best, Dick Cheney just chose to cherry-pick bits of data that supported neocon warmongering.

The vast majority of Americans can't find Israel on a map. Anyway the decision to go to war isn't and shouldn't be up for a vote. We hire people for things like that. We go flooding into Iran I had better not get an address from the Oval Office that states "Well X% of you thought it was a good idea so lets go!".

But the consequences are always determined by the voters.

We have quote after quote from the leadership of Iran talking about wiping Israel off the map with waves of fire. Do you think he is talking about napalm?

Citation please.
 
2012-09-17 11:32:28 AM  
Nebuchadnezzar Haman BabylonBama is no friend of Israel.
 
2012-09-17 11:40:20 AM  
I don't know if trying to force American into your war is the best idea on how to win friends and support, Bibi. Sure that 40% is going to be blindly behind you not matter what you say or how much of a puppet you want America to be, but there are some other people out there voting this year that might not take too kindly to it. Might want to be a tad more cautious sticking your nose into US elections.
 
2012-09-17 11:43:09 AM  

Fark It: Citation please.


The ADL. I'm not saying that they are the most unbiased source in the world. However they do back up their sources very well.

And that will be a 5 dollar research fee.
 
2012-09-17 11:59:03 AM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Fark It: Nearly 60% of Americans do not think we should support Israel militarily if a pre-emptive strike touches off a larger conflict in the region

The vast majority of Americans can't find Israel on a map


You're right, that's why support of Israel is as high as 40%.
 
2012-09-17 12:00:19 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Fark It: Citation please.

The ADL. I'm not saying that they are the most unbiased source in the world. However they do back up their sources very well.

And that will be a 5 dollar research fee.


Really? The ADL?

Ahmadinejad never said Israel should be "wiped off the map."
 
2012-09-17 12:19:57 PM  

DeltaPunch: Look, I understand his concerns and I certainly hope we can work together moving forward, but I really wish he'd just STFU and keep his nose out of our erections.


holy fark I really typed that didn't I? ELECTIONS....

/shouldn't type before coffee
//*grumble*
 
2012-09-17 12:58:36 PM  

DeltaPunch: Look, I understand his concerns and I certainly hope we can work together moving forward, but I really wish he'd just STFU and keep his nose out of our erections.


Gives a whole new meaning to the term Nose Job.
 
2012-09-17 01:12:56 PM  
I don't want to die.
 
2012-09-17 01:14:30 PM  
Funny how Obama has time to go on Letterman but no time to meet with the leader of one of our allies.

What a disgrace.
 
2012-09-17 01:15:21 PM  
How about we draw that line at the Iranian border. If Iran moves military hardware across their border, then we intervene. Until that happens, stfu Zionist
 
2012-09-17 01:16:22 PM  

airsupport: I don't want to die.


You've got so much to give.
 
2012-09-17 01:17:13 PM  

vudukungfu: WHAaaaaaaaaa. Iran is picking on me. Help me, USA!

How about we sit this one out.
You got religeous extremists with guns on both sides.
Allow the problem to self-correct.


Because Israel has nukes and would absolutely use them pre-emptively if international pressure and conventional warfare to stop Iran either fail or do not materialize.

Personally, I would prefer not to find out what the aftermath of a limited nuclear engagement between Israel and Iran looks like, regardless of who pulled the trigger.
 
2012-09-17 01:17:18 PM  
An ultimatum to issue an ultimatum.
 
2012-09-17 01:18:29 PM  
Why do liberals hate Israel and Jews so much? You know who else hated Jews? This guy:
www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk
Democrats are in good company.
 
2012-09-17 01:19:07 PM  

TIKIMAN87: Funny how Obama has time to go on Letterman but no time to meet with the leader of one of our allies.

What a disgrace.


0/10

Total fail.
 
2012-09-17 01:19:31 PM  

karnal: Why do liberals hate Israel and Jews so much? You know who else hated Jews? This guy:
[www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk image 165x267]
Democrats are in good company.


Hush. Adults are talking.
 
2012-09-17 01:21:02 PM  
How about this Red Line:

Israel immediately become signatory to the NPT and opens it's nuclear programs to inspection including revealing all past proliferation activities.
 
2012-09-17 01:21:10 PM  
Why does America need to draw the "red line", Yahoo? Last I checked you folks were a sovereign nation with your own military. You got a problem with Iran that you feel needs to be addresses with strong arm tactics, you farking do it and deal with the ramifications.

...Or maybe Israel is only tough when they're shooting at civilians in refugee camps?
 
2012-09-17 01:22:18 PM  

Fark It: Really? The ADL?

Ahmadinejad never said Israel should be "wiped off the map."



ok lets take that one single one off the table. I could argue but why? I've got another thousand quotes.
 
2012-09-17 01:22:29 PM  

TIKIMAN87: Funny how Obama has time to go on Letterman but no time to meet with the leader of one of our allies.

What a disgrace.


1/10

Just a couple questions here for you.

i.dailymail.co.uk
Why does an ally need to send spies to steal information from their friends?

2.bp.blogspot.com
What ally attacks their friend's ships?
 
2012-09-17 01:22:38 PM  
<b><a href="http://www.fark.com/comments/7331419/79435626#c79435626" target="_blank">karnal</a>:</b> <i>Why do liberals hate Israel and Jews so much? You know who else hated Jews? This guy:
[www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk image 165x267]
Democrats are in good company.</i>

That wasn't even worthy of a troll rating. That was just pathetic.
 
2012-09-17 01:22:41 PM  
So, when is Netanyahu going to provide the intelligence to support his claims that they've ramped up production dramatically since July when they were saying it would be two years? Oh, and we'd like the evidence to back his implications that Shiaa clerics in Tehran are the ones who ordered Salafist Sunnis to riot in Libya and got Ambassador Stevens killed. If we have that it certainly seems like a good cause for war. Until we can weigh the evidence you claim to have, kind of hard for us to act on it.

The only news I've seen about Iran in the last month or so is how panicked they are that the value of the rial has cratered due to sanctions. No new fighting words, though I haven't exactly been looking out for them. Ahh, but obviously the silence is proof that they are plotting.
 
2012-09-17 01:22:45 PM  
It has been United States' policy, both under Barack Obama and the Presidents that preceded him, that Iran must not achieve nuclear weapons. To do so require breaking seals in its facilities that the international community would be aware of.

Israel (Netanyahu) insists that the definition must be that Iran must not achieve the capability to have nuclear weapons. A capability is far more vague. It could mean that at some point in the future they might be able to create a nuclear weapon.

There you have it.
 
2012-09-17 01:22:55 PM  

karnal: Why do liberals hate Israel and Jews so much? You know who else hated Jews? This guy:
[www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk image 165x267]
Democrats are in good company.


*yawn*

Next...
 
2012-09-17 01:23:29 PM  

karnal: Why do liberals hate Israel and Jews so much? You know who else hated Jews? This guy:
[www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk image 165x267]
Democrats are in good company.


Meh. You forgot to mention that "Nazi" is a contraction of "Nationalsozialismus", that liberals are socialists, and therefore liberalism is fascism.

Also, both sides are bad, so vote Republican.
 
2012-09-17 01:23:42 PM  
Hi dickheads(Israeli military). We aren't your farkng war slaves. You want to provoke yet another war, I hope you get ground to sausage.

Israel: the most destabilizing influence in the middle east. As someone that loves Jews in general, Israel as a nation can pretty much just go and fark off and die.

When Netanyahu is calling someone else a dangerous fundamentalist, we are through the looking glass.
 
2012-09-17 01:24:02 PM  

Tremolo: TIKIMAN87: Funny how Obama has time to go on Letterman but no time to meet with the leader of one of our allies.

What a disgrace.

0/10

Total fail.


You're right that is a total fail. In order to get the little fishes on the line you have to give them some wiggle room. That's just a simple irrefutable fact.
 
2012-09-17 01:24:28 PM  
It's high time for the US to reevaluate its strategic policy on Israel and how it relates to the rest of the Middle East. I can't see many people in the US supporting Israel as an ally going into the future if they drag us into another Mideast war... if Benny manipulates our election with a preemptive attack I can only hope we start storming some Israeli embassies/consulates in this country.

/a guy can wish
 
2012-09-17 01:25:03 PM  
I, for one, want a President who will not kowtow to foreign leaders and it sounds like Obama is just that leader.
 
2012-09-17 01:25:04 PM  
Yeah, vassal states don't get to dictate policy for the empire.

He wants a "red line" because then he's one phony intel report away from his war. Obama and H-Rod are having none of it. Why should Bibi farking Netanyahu get to dictate American policy for the entire mid-east?
 
2012-09-17 01:25:30 PM  
Israeli Prime Minister Romney surrogate Netanyahu urges the United States to draw a "red line" that Iran cannot cross
 
2012-09-17 01:25:43 PM  
To Iran, talking about wiping Israel off the map is like me talking about having an 11-way with fark's top ten ladies. It's never gonna happen, but everyone gets a boner.
 
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