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(Slate)   Lost in all the media frenzy over the "Ban on Big Gulps" in NYC is the question of just when DID we all start drinking sodas larger than our own heads?   (slate.com) divider line 307
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2012-09-17 07:58:42 AM  
All you need to know.

www.slate.com
 
2012-09-17 08:29:10 AM  
Who farking cares?
 
2012-09-17 08:32:03 AM  
I like being able to purchase what is essentially a small bucket of soda.
 
2012-09-17 08:45:02 AM  
downloads.thedaily.com 

Funny how serving size seems to correlate strongly with American ass-size.
 
2012-09-17 09:18:52 AM  

b0rscht: [downloads.thedaily.com image 662x497] 

Funny how serving size seems to correlate strongly with American ass-size.


that giant thing is supposed to last all day, it does for me anyway.
 
2012-09-17 09:43:49 AM  
When I was a teenager in late high school, they came out with the Super Big-Gulp refillable. Those insulated mugs came in handy during summer band practice in Southern Texas. That's excellent for teenagers but I wouldn't recommend it once you hit your 20s unless you want a case of fat-assitus.
 
2012-09-17 09:49:59 AM  
For me it began the morning after a REALLY good drunk.
 
2012-09-17 10:36:02 AM  

ManateeGag: that giant thing is supposed to last all day, it does for me anyway.


That's still about a gazillion times more sugar than a person should have in a day.

Not that I'm some kind of paragon of dietary virtue, or anything.
 
2012-09-17 10:37:37 AM  
Yeah, I drink a normal sized soda maybe once a month... too much sugar, or something.

/don't like sweets...
 
2012-09-17 10:38:36 AM  

Calmamity: ManateeGag: that giant thing is supposed to last all day, it does for me anyway.

That's still about a gazillion times more sugar than a person should have in a day.

Not that I'm some kind of paragon of dietary virtue, or anything.


So don't have a soft drink with sugar in it?
 
2012-09-17 10:39:14 AM  
i253.photobucket.comDrink deeply and frequently, stupid human.
 
2012-09-17 10:39:16 AM  
people are fat because they are able to buy large, single cup sugary beverages from places that sell fountain soda. That's all you need to know, citizen. Waddle along.
 
2012-09-17 10:39:49 AM  
It's time to put a tax on sugar. Forget this goofy portion size stuff.
 
2012-09-17 10:40:00 AM  
Pop is low class. I had a can yesterday as sometimes I am also low class.
 
2012-09-17 10:40:07 AM  
Is this the thread where the people who love red meat and binge drinking feign outrage over sugar and poor diets?
 
2012-09-17 10:40:10 AM  
Also missing: per person soda consumption has been droping for 11 years straight and is currently at 1990 levels.
 
2012-09-17 10:41:32 AM  
Cup size matters.


/boobies
 
2012-09-17 10:42:00 AM  

hinten: All you need to know.

[www.slate.com image 568x346]


I think it's scandalous that 7 ounces ever constituted a "large". What was a small, an eyedropper?
 
2012-09-17 10:42:20 AM  
Since the law doesn't apply to diet drinks, how do they handle that at fast-food places that are self serve? Hand you a larger cup, then you're on the honor system to not fill it with regular soda?
 
2012-09-17 10:42:44 AM  
Just this morning a seriously overweight teenage girl crossed the street in front of me with a 32-ouncer. Breakfast of Champions.
 
2012-09-17 10:42:50 AM  
Although it's gross, there shouldn't be a ban on oversized foods or drinks. What you want to put in your body is your business, but don't be surprised when Jerry springer has to knock a wall out to get your morbidly obese ass treatment.


/doesn't NYC have bigger problems to deal with than big drinks?
 
2012-09-17 10:43:17 AM  

This text is now purple: I think it's scandalous that 7 ounces ever constituted a "large". What was a small, an eyedropper?


The guy behind the counter drinks it and burps at you.
 
2012-09-17 10:43:24 AM  

hinten: All you need to know.

[www.slate.com image 568x346]


So, around the same time that sugar was being replaced with HCFS. Chug that sweet, sweet, subsidized corn nectar.
 
2012-09-17 10:43:51 AM  
I drink 2-4 liters of diet mt dew a day. I have since they invented diet mt dew.
Here is a list of the known maladies I have incurred from my grotesque abuse of said soda.....

I pee alot.
 
2012-09-17 10:44:01 AM  

ChrisDe: Since the law doesn't apply to diet drinks, how do they handle that at fast-food places that are self serve? Hand you a larger cup, then you're on the honor system to not fill it with regular soda?


no, if you have a serve yourself fountain station, you cannot offer the large cup regardless of what the person wants to put it it. Of course, you can sell a smaller size and a person can refill it 50 times but not at once. Ya know, because authoritarianism public health.
 
2012-09-17 10:44:05 AM  
If I ever do get one of these, I get no ice, and put it in the fridge and drink it all day. Or share it with others. Seems a good way for a family to save money.

Isn't fruit juice an exception to this? Juice can make kids fat too.
 
2012-09-17 10:44:09 AM  

Lone Stranger: Cup size matters.


/boobies


In boobs and beverages, it seems.
 
2012-09-17 10:44:15 AM  

cookiefleck: Although it's gross, there shouldn't be a ban on oversized foods or drinks. What you want to put in your body is your business, but don't be surprised when Jerry springer has to knock a wall out to get your morbidly obese ass treatment.


/doesn't NYC have bigger problems to deal with than big drinks?


I don't think anyone got fat on a 20 oz soda.
 
2012-09-17 10:44:38 AM  

CheetahOlivetti: hinten: All you need to know.

[www.slate.com image 568x346]

So, around the same time that sugar was being replaced with HCFS. Chug that sweet, sweet, subsidized corn nectar.


Or HFCS.

/ftfm
 
2012-09-17 10:44:47 AM  
I have the appetite of a negro
 
2012-09-17 10:45:28 AM  
Glad to see that ALL of the other problems in NYC are solved. Now they're getting to the things that really matter.
 
2012-09-17 10:46:21 AM  

hinten: All you need to know.

[www.slate.com image 568x346]


We needed to know that Slate's graphics team is incompetent?

/time goes from left to right or up to down, you f*cksticks.
 
2012-09-17 10:47:06 AM  
I recall a time when a soft drink sold in a container the size of a small trash can was a joke in Leisure Suit Larry 2.
 
2012-09-17 10:47:32 AM  

Contrabulous Flabtraption: I have the appetite of a negro


You should put that as the status of your Facebook page.
 
2012-09-17 10:47:53 AM  
Except the ban exempts most vendors of said drinks. Way to make a stand, Bloomberg!
 
2012-09-17 10:48:08 AM  

YouWinAgainGravity: Is this the thread where the people who love red meat and binge drinking feign outrage over sugar and poor diets?


You don't get fat eating red meat and wine.

It's all about insulin response. Sugars your body can't use immediately goes straight to fat cells, which is why ironically enough you can get skinny eating bacon and salad.
 
2012-09-17 10:50:04 AM  
The best part is the original "large" soda was 7oz; but when you go to McDonalds and they fill the cup all the way to the top with ice, then add 7oz of soda, it overflows!
 
2012-09-17 10:50:33 AM  
I thought Big Gulps are not banned, as 7-Eleven is classified as a grocery store.
 
2012-09-17 10:50:44 AM  

Sticky Hands: Also missing: per person soda consumption has been droping for 11 years straight and is currently at 1990 levels.


Interesting. (Honest.) I'd put $100 on bimodal distribution, though... averages are funny things. I know I drink almost no soda now (home kegerator carbonated water FTW) and many have embraced water / non-soda (though those aren't always healthier) alternatives for various reasons. But it's hard to argue with the growth in available serving sizes for those who do drink soda.

But, as an adult, drink whatever ya' want in a restaurant / 7-11... what makes me cringe is seeing mothers (often round) with children (often soon-to-be-round) in tow in the supermarket with case and cases and CASES of soda in the cart, sixes of 1L bottles hanging off the sides, etc, and not a single juice, dairy or (even-slightly-)healthier drink in the pile.

As for why sizes have grown? DNRTFA, but, "profit margins." Soda is nearly free (or free, depending on comarketing agreements), but "Oh, well, the SuperBathtubSize is only $0.30 more than the BucketSize... might as well get that." I can see why fast food, in particular, does it.
 
2012-09-17 10:50:58 AM  
there's a problem when a "medium" cup won't fit in my car's cup holder.
/only drinks sugar free beverages
//because of the type 1 diabeetus
///i sound fatter than I am... 6'2". 150 lbs.
 
2012-09-17 10:51:11 AM  

cookiefleck: Although it's gross, there shouldn't be a ban on oversized foods or drinks. What you want to put in your body is your business, but don't be surprised when Jerry springer has to knock a wall out to get your morbidly obese ass treatment.


/doesn't NYC have bigger problems to deal with than big drinks?


Not really. This isn't Taxi Driver/Death Wish New York anymore. Bummer.
 
2012-09-17 10:51:24 AM  
Ban large drinks -> consumers buy more small drinks -> packaging ends up in landfill -> garbage contractors profit -> politicians take a cut.
 
2012-09-17 10:51:31 AM  
In high school when we went to a fast food place my friends always ordered the largest size soda (90s so probably 32 oz or more) and refilled it before leaving if not also during the meal. I never understood why they wanted so much soda or thought that was a good idea.
 
2012-09-17 10:51:35 AM  

cookiefleck: Although it's gross, there shouldn't be a ban on oversized foods or drinks. What you want to put in your body is your business, but don't be surprised when Jerry springer has to knock a wall out to get your morbidly obese ass treatment.


/doesn't NYC have bigger problems to deal with than big drinks?


Big sodas can be traced back to a lot of health problems. Although usually people that abuse food aren't just drinking way to much soda it is just the easiest to eliminate from the diet, most fatties suck down gallons of that crap a week. Plus it sets the mouth for really sweet foods.
 
2012-09-17 10:51:41 AM  
I like being able to fill one ginormous cup and have it last me all day. I almost always fill it with unsweetened iced tea though, so it doesn't really contribute to my fatassitude. They're also nice to have to refill with ice water later.
 
2012-09-17 10:51:48 AM  
I think people have the right to drink what they want. After all, this doesn't stop them from swilling a gallon a day at home. Silly law.

I do like that there is a discussion going on around portion size. Portion creep isn't just for soda.

I love those little Cokes in the glass bottles that I can only find a few times a year. I don't drink much soda because the containers are too damn large. Local convenience store doesn't stock anything under 20 oz bottles.
 
2012-09-17 10:52:23 AM  

DarnoKonrad: YouWinAgainGravity: Is this the thread where the people who love red meat and binge drinking feign outrage over sugar and poor diets?

You don't get fat eating red meat and wine.

It's all about insulin response. Sugars your body can't use immediately goes straight to fat cells, which is why ironically enough you can get skinny eating bacon and salad.


Yeah bacon cheeseburgers and a case of beer every week won't make you fat, it's that soda.
 
2012-09-17 10:52:31 AM  
I remember as a kid in the late 70's that not only were large drinks at most the size of todays smalls, but THERE WERE NO FREE REFILLS ON SODA!!
 
2012-09-17 10:54:10 AM  
i'll eat and drink whatever i want and whenever i want! to hell with the naysayers!

/ fat
 
2012-09-17 10:54:55 AM  

TehBoognish: I drink 2-4 liters of diet mt dew a day. I have since they invented diet mt dew.
Here is a list of the known maladies I have incurred from my grotesque abuse of said soda.....

I pee alot.


To each their own, but, if I had that habit, I'd learn to make an iced tea or iced coffee that I enjoyed and save a fair amount of money. I mean, how much is a 2L of MtDew? $1-$2? By the end of the week, you'll save enough to buy a handle of cheap vodak. Priorities, man!

IAmRight: We needed to know that Slate's graphics team is incompetent?

/time goes from left to right or up to down, you f*cksticks


THANK YOU. Not only that, but also I don't know what they were trying to do with the size representation. Area != volume, and it just doesn't look... right. I'd want to see it with the volume represented by the area of the icon (or, maybe, the height of the icon representing the volume or something), but that graph just doesn't make its point, or any point, well.

/ thought I would be the only one bugged by that
 
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