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(C|Net)   The next version of Photoshop won't support Windows XP (even though XP still commands over 40% of the OS market)   (news.cnet.com) divider line 90
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2012-09-17 03:41:40 AM
People too set in their OS ways to upgrade aren't likely to be the people upgrading their Photoshop version either. They aren't likely to lose many customers over this.
 
2012-09-17 03:48:08 AM
People who still use XP deserve what they get (or don't).
 
2012-09-17 03:55:30 AM
at least these folks will still have paint.net
 
2012-09-17 03:55:44 AM

Bhruic: People too set in their OS ways to upgrade aren't likely to be the people upgrading their Photoshop version either. They aren't likely to lose many customers over this.


Exactly. The people buying the newest version of Photoshop aren't using a 4-5 year old computer that they don't want to pay to upgrade to Win7.
 
2012-09-17 03:56:18 AM
If you are a paying Photoshop customer you are not running XP.
 
2012-09-17 03:56:28 AM
Not a lot of professionals will be upset about this. Compared to getting a brand new workstation graphics card, upgrading your OS is chump change. If anything, they have already upgraded a long time ago.
 
2012-09-17 03:57:48 AM

GWSuperfan: at least these folks will still have paint.net


Had to go check the Gimp site to see if it still supported XP.

Sure does!
 
2012-09-17 04:03:03 AM

hinten: If you are a paying Photoshop customer you are not running XP.


bullocks.
 
2012-09-17 04:17:55 AM
The only reason I still use 32-bit XP is because it would cost thousands of dollars to replace the hardware I use which requires it. Stupid farking drivers.
 
2012-09-17 04:21:39 AM
PaintShop Pro FTW
 
2012-09-17 04:22:47 AM
There's still an essential computer somewhere at my work which runs on Win95 or 98, can't remember exactly, because they apparently don't want to try to find an updated version of whatever the hell software they're using.
 
2012-09-17 04:23:25 AM

mediablitz: GWSuperfan: at least these folks will still have paint.net

Had to go check the Gimp site to see if it still supported XP.

Sure does!


Holy mother of zod, I didn't realize gimp would run under windoze.
 
2012-09-17 04:25:55 AM
Yeah noone is going to cough for PS SEVEN to run on an XP machine. really noone. Like single figures. Total waste of time supporting it.
 
2012-09-17 04:41:47 AM
Has anyone actually paid for any version of Photoshop?
 
2012-09-17 04:48:11 AM

styckx: Has anyone actually paid for any version of Photoshop?


Not I. Though, I think the version I was running at work was paid for as part of a huge licensing deal, so maybe businesses might have to deal with this.
 
2012-09-17 04:56:26 AM

styckx: Has anyone actually paid for any version of Photoshop?


We did.
Which is what I think their business model is based on.
Kids download it for free before they have a job - become expert - and make sure that their office buys it when they are in on the decision.
Sure, some offices will continue to torrent it, but I think allowing your software to become the standard for image editing is a good call in the end.
 
2012-09-17 04:59:48 AM

styckx: Has anyone actually paid for any version of Photoshop?

I have it as part of Creative Cloud. If you're a student, it's pretty good value.
 
2012-09-17 05:05:07 AM
Tag is for Subby
 
2012-09-17 05:10:26 AM

digistil: Tag is for Subby


Yes, who exactly is stupid, subby? Adobe? Or those with beige computers and dust-laden CRTs loaded with viruses XP? If the latter, I stand corrected.
 
2012-09-17 05:14:05 AM
I still use XP on my old desktop. Works fine and I still have a dozen games I haven't finished on it. Why would I change that?
 
2012-09-17 05:18:45 AM

alienated: hinten: If you are a paying Photoshop customer you are not running XP.

bullocks.


Thanks for sharing your predicament with us. My thoughts are with you and yours.
 
2012-09-17 05:26:15 AM

Confabulat: I still use XP on my old desktop. Works fine and I still have a dozen games I haven't finished on it. Why would I change that?


What does that have to do with Photoshop???
 
Xai
2012-09-17 05:51:58 AM
I see their thinking here - who would pay £650 for software when they haven't paid £150 to upgrade their OS.
 
2012-09-17 05:53:14 AM

Confabulat: I still use XP on my old desktop. Works fine and I still have a dozen games I haven't finished on it. Why would I change that?


imgs.xkcd.com
 
2012-09-17 06:05:35 AM

mediablitz: Confabulat: I still use XP on my old desktop. Works fine and I still have a dozen games I haven't finished on it. Why would I change that?

What does that have to do with Photoshop???


Oh it doesn't. If I was getting a new version of Photoshop I'd obviously not be using the old desktop. I was just pointing out to people above that people still do use XP and don't mind at all.

And I'm almost done with God of War on my PS2. Pretty fun game! I just snagged #2 off eBay for like 3 bucks, looking forward to it.
 
2012-09-17 06:12:50 AM

styckx: Has anyone actually paid for any version of Photoshop?


DING DING DING DING WE HAVE A WINNER


/serious, shiats expensive
//can't afford the 'buy' adobe products on a college student budget
///graphic designer
 
2012-09-17 06:21:58 AM

torch: PaintShop Pro FTW


FTFM.
 
2012-09-17 06:31:43 AM

Confabulat: mediablitz: Confabulat: I still use XP on my old desktop. Works fine and I still have a dozen games I haven't finished on it. Why would I change that?

What does that have to do with Photoshop???

Oh it doesn't. If I was getting a new version of Photoshop I'd obviously not be using the old desktop. I was just pointing out to people above that people still do use XP and don't mind at all.

And I'm almost done with God of War on my PS2. Pretty fun game! I just snagged #2 off eBay for like 3 bucks, looking forward to it.


Does this mean you don't wanna stand in line with me to buy the new iPhone?
 
2012-09-17 06:51:47 AM

0Icky0: styckx: Has anyone actually paid for any version of Photoshop?

We did.
Which is what I think their business model is based on.
Kids download it for free before they have a job - become expert - and make sure that their office buys it when they are in on the decision.
Sure, some offices will continue to torrent it, but I think allowing your software to become the standard for image editing is a good call in the end.


This is why Adobe has never really gone after individuals for pirating their software. In the end it works to their advantage by cementing their software as an industry standard. It's also why Microsoft has always sold college students full versions of Windows and Office for 10 bucks. Or at least they did when I was in school, can't say for sure if they still do.
 
2012-09-17 07:11:04 AM
Not that surprising, most people using photoshop will have a pc that was purchased in the last 6 years.
 
2012-09-17 07:19:00 AM
The cost of supporting latest Photoshop version on Windows XP is greater than the profits of sales to Windows XP users so thats why there is no Windows XP version.

CASE CLOSED ENCYCLOPEDIA BROWN!
 
2012-09-17 07:44:40 AM

torch: PaintShop Pro FTW


Has Corel finally come out with a 64 bit version of the program? Has the program stopped crashing when loaded up with several image files? Is the editing non-destructive to the original file like in Lightroom? Does it now include a panorama auto-stitcher? What about built-in HDR capabilities? Can you create a 100 Mpix image in it without it complaining?

Yeah, PSP was a good entry level program (the price was certainly right), but it is NOT PS. I can't do without PhotoShop with some of the work I do now (panoramas) - and yes, I did pay for it (they every so often do have special pricing so it wasn't full price).
 
2012-09-17 07:46:49 AM
Am I the only one who noticed that it requires Win 7 or better and no mention of Vista support in tfa?
 
2012-09-17 07:49:29 AM
I'm sorry, subby, am I supposed to be alarmed and dismayed that a software company isn't supporting an 11 year old operating system? 12 for those of us who had our hands on RC builds before public release.

XP is a stonking pile of fragrant garbage compared to Windows 7, especially those of us who have run more than 4 gigs of a RAM for more than a decade.
 
2012-09-17 07:53:54 AM
The checkout guy at my local grocer, a large chain, told me the checkout system runs Windows 98. I laughed, he saw my disbelief. So he asked the worker at the next aisle what OS they use. Windows98.
 
2012-09-17 08:07:09 AM
Dammit, this pisses me off.

Why? Because I HATE Adobe. And this is a Good Thing. Adobe is doing a Good Thing which means I have to like them just a little bit.

So...

Conflicted...

AUGH!!!
 
2012-09-17 08:09:42 AM

TheTrashcanMan: styckx: Has anyone actually paid for any version of Photoshop?

DING DING DING DING WE HAVE A WINNER


/serious, shiats expensive
//can't afford the 'buy' adobe products on a college student budget
///graphic designer


The Creative Cloud subscription isn't bad, $50 a month for a 1 year subscription and $75/mo if you go no commitment, and you get access to CS6 in its entirety.Just talked my boss into getting me set up with one so I could do some basic graphic design and video work in house instead of paying out the ass for another company to do it.
 
2012-09-17 08:13:20 AM

BizarreMan: Am I the only one who noticed that it requires Win 7 or better and no mention of Vista support in tfa?


Sounds like it, yes.
 
2012-09-17 08:26:27 AM

Neondistraction: 0Icky0: styckx: Has anyone actually paid for any version of Photoshop?

We did.
Which is what I think their business model is based on.
Kids download it for free before they have a job - become expert - and make sure that their office buys it when they are in on the decision.
Sure, some offices will continue to torrent it, but I think allowing your software to become the standard for image editing is a good call in the end.

This is why Adobe has never really gone after individuals for pirating their software. In the end it works to their advantage by cementing their software as an industry standard. It's also why Microsoft has always sold college students full versions of Windows and Office for 10 bucks. Or at least they did when I was in school, can't say for sure if they still do.


It's a little more now. I paid 40 bucks for Windows 7 Pro through the student deal. Admittedly, I hadn't been a student at the university email I used for 2 years at the time, but MicrOsoft just wanted a valid university email and didn't follOw up on checking on enrolment.

Office, which has pretty much everything the 500 dollar version has runs for about 80 bucks if you're a student.

Everyone seems to think Microsoft is teh ebul, but how many other companies do you know that allow you to beta thr super deluxe version of their software for free, and allow you to keep running that beta for another 6 months after the final version hits the street?

I'm also highly guilty of grabbing Acrobat Pro and Photoshop. Yeah, Acrobat has some bloat, but I've tried using stuff like Bluebeam and other "cheaper" PDF editing software and found that Acrobat works the best. It's not as huge of a memory hog, believe it or not, and it's much better at compression and backwards compatibility. Just because something is cheap doesn't always mean it ends up working right. Bluebeam was a pain in the ass.
 
2012-09-17 08:28:19 AM
Adobe licenses carry downgrade rights. I deal with this every day since some of our departments haven't been upgraded to XP or 64 bit yet. If you buy a license for any Adobe CS6 product, you can use previous versions until you have the capability to run the current offering. Premiere has been 64 bit only since CS5, so you can buy a license for the 64-bit CS6 version, but run CS4 until you can get fully upgraded. It is a pain in the ass, but some large companies take a while to get everyone up and running on the latest and greatest.
 
2012-09-17 08:29:16 AM

genepool lifeboat: Adobe licenses carry downgrade rights. I deal with this every day since some of our departments haven't been upgraded to XP or 64 bit yet. If you buy a license for any Adobe CS6 product, you can use previous versions until you have the capability to run the current offering. Premiere has been 64 bit only since CS5, so you can buy a license for the 64-bit CS6 version, but run CS4 until you can get fully upgraded. It is a pain in the ass, but some large companies take a while to get everyone up and running on the latest and greatest.


That should be FROM XP... coffee...
 
2012-09-17 08:40:26 AM

torch: PaintShop Pro FTW


I'm on the opposite end of the spectrum I guess. I update my OS but stay back level with the image editing software. Windows 7 has to disable aero every time I launch my now ancient PSP 9.
 
2012-09-17 09:36:14 AM
lol virtual machine. I run all kinds of crap I'm not "supposed" to.
didn't rtfa
 
2012-09-17 10:18:04 AM
I`m ok with this. The sooner `proper` computing apps move to 64 bit and CUDA (or AMD equiv) the better.
 
2012-09-17 10:19:38 AM

genepool lifeboat: genepool lifeboat: Adobe licenses carry downgrade rights. I deal with this every day since some of our departments haven't been upgraded to XP or 64 bit yet. If you buy a license for any Adobe CS6 product, you can use previous versions until you have the capability to run the current offering. Premiere has been 64 bit only since CS5, so you can buy a license for the 64-bit CS6 version, but run CS4 until you can get fully upgraded. It is a pain in the ass, but some large companies take a while to get everyone up and running on the latest and greatest.

That should be FROM XP... coffee...


Do you mean FROM xp TO 63 bit?

/oops, dropped a bit.
//64 bit, that`s it, 64.....
 
2012-09-17 10:20:35 AM
ITT: people too cheap to buy a legitimate copy of windows complain about software they aren't going to buy anyways that isn't compatible with their pirated OS.


/Windows XP is nothing more then a security risk at this point
 
2012-09-17 10:21:34 AM

dready zim: genepool lifeboat: genepool lifeboat: Adobe licenses carry downgrade rights. I deal with this every day since some of our departments haven't been upgraded to XP or 64 bit yet. If you buy a license for any Adobe CS6 product, you can use previous versions until you have the capability to run the current offering. Premiere has been 64 bit only since CS5, so you can buy a license for the 64-bit CS6 version, but run CS4 until you can get fully upgraded. It is a pain in the ass, but some large companies take a while to get everyone up and running on the latest and greatest.

That should be FROM XP... coffee...

Do you mean FROM xp TO 63 bit?

/oops, dropped a bit.
//64 bit, that`s it, 64.....


Windows XP does have a 64 bit version

I don't think it lets you use more then 4GB ram, but it at least shows that you have it.
 
2012-09-17 10:38:04 AM

dready zim: Do you mean FROM xp TO 63 bit?

/oops, dropped a bit.
//64 bit, that`s it, 64.....


fluffy2097: Windows XP does have a 64 bit version

I don't think it lets you use more then 4GB ram, but it at least shows that you have it.


Yeah, what I meant to say was that we haven't upgraded everyone from XP 32-bit to either 64 bit or Windows 7. Obviously at this point we're not going to be going XP 64 Bit, but we've had to consider it for a few machines because of some of the archaic software out there in the legacy world. In a prefect world everything would just go to Win 7 and 64 bit, but, especially in Healthcare, companies look to save as much as they can for as long as they have to.
I'm a little more awake now.
 
2012-09-17 10:40:25 AM
If you're running the latest Photoshop and running Windows XP, you're already hindering the performance.
 
2012-09-17 10:42:42 AM
i.imgur.com

What a Windows XP user in 2012 might look like.
 
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